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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   Looking for help with a Schwinn? posted by: Tyler Howe on 8/20/2000 at 4:47:39 PM
I have had a Schwinn Tornado for several years, and now I am ready to restore the bike. My problem is that I don't know where to begin.
The serial number is A1 1786 Any thoughts on the year, or where I begin???

MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by: Don on 8/19/2000 at 6:12:57 PM
I recently purchased a 1953 Men's Schwinn.
The previous owner must have oiled the chain every day.
It has a very thick hard coating of black grease on it.
How can I clean off this grease, without causing the chain to rust right away?

On the "bright" side, the sprocket was also protected by this layer of grease, and is rust free.

Thanks, Don

   RE:MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by kevin c on 8/19/2000 at 8:38:21 PM
I'd soak it in gasoline or go over it with a wire wheel that chucks into an electric drill.

   RE:RE:MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by Rif Addams on 8/20/2000 at 9:24:27 AM
Be forewarned that soaking parts in gasoline is extremely dangerous.
Having come from the Kustom automobile scene, I have seen a few 'mis-haps' with this method of cleaning parts.
If I may be so bold as to recomend a couple of things...
1) try a [non foaming] engine degreaser such as gunk engine cleaner, carefully sray this into an open container such as an empty (clean) tuna can. Carefully brush this onto your chain using an acid brush.
2) again using a small open container such as a tuna can, spray a small amount of WD-40, (or equivalent) into the can and brush onto the chain.,

whichever you use let it soak in for 15 min. to a half hour. use an old toothbrush, to gently scrub the grease off. repeat this process as necessary.
And please remember safety first, always wear eye protection, industrial rubber gloves and work in a well ventilated area.
Hope this helps.
Rif Addams

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by ChristopherRobin waster of good bicycle chain on 8/21/2000 at 9:54:56 AM
I would cut it off, throw it away and replace the chain. remove the rear sproket,and replace it. True the rear wheel, clean it, new rim strip, new tire, tube. Put it back in and ride. But again all this is not necessary, and I love to pitch a chain rather then clean it. Unless this is an old Perry chain or something skip toothy then in that case you better save it. If I want to keep this and put it back on a English bike I want to show.

I loved the part on the back label of the can that says "This product contains an chemical known in the State of California to cause reproductive harm." Thats real nice, gee I think I will pass on this one. However the newer, earth friendly, cleaners do not work as well or not at all somethimes.

I would get a small home parts cleaner but use gloves and keep it away from kids.

Perhaps you could approach a Gasoline station/garage and ask them to put your chain in the parts cleaner and have some young attendant clean it for you. Perhaps they will just wave their hands at you and say "no charge" but I would be prepared to offer them something for it and you really should ask them as you hand it to them in the plastic baggy. Do not let them charge you more than a new one would cost.

A bike shop sells these gizmos that cleans the chain on the bike and I would look into one of these.

   RE:MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by sam on 8/21/2000 at 5:03:25 PM
Chris gets my vote,chunk the chain and get a new one!(unless it's a realy good shape diamond link)If it is then go to wal-mart and get some of that oil they sell to put in oil lamps,soak the chain in the oil and use a 5# coffee can when your through pour all the oil back in the bottle and keep it till the next time you need to clean parts or the lights go out!--sam

   RE:MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by Larry L. on 8/25/2000 at 1:51:13 PM
Don't throw it away. Save it,like the other guy said do not use gas! Use "oven cleaner". Just make sure not to inhale the fumes. Spray and run away. I use this for all greasy parts,EXCEPT ALUMINUM PARTS!!! If you get some on aluminum"wash off quickly with the garden hose nozzel. Your parts will turn black.And the color aluminum will never come back. Leave on for two minutes,and hose off. If grime is stubborn. Help it off with a parts cleaner brush, spray some more and run some more. When your done with your chain,allow too drip dry, or blow off remaing water and put chain in a old but clean coffee can, and pour one quart of transmission fluid inside of can on top of chain.Leave over night,so it can soak good. Then remove chain and hang over can to drip off. Then if your feeling a little energetic, put on a pair of nice clean white pants and ride your bike really fast,with your freshly cleaned chain.

   RE:MISC:   How to clean a greasy chain? posted by Peter Modaffari on 9/30/2000 at 5:06:14 PM
Use Simple Green. It is a de-greaser. Works like a charm. Can be found in most grocery stores and dimestores. If youu can't find any, search Simple Green on your search engine and they will tell you where to find it. And its safe to use. Completely organic and biodegradable.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Westwind WW posted by: Bill Hutchison on 8/18/2000 at 9:35:11 PM
I have a 1958 Schwinn Corvette 3 spd.26".Is there a source for wide whitewall tires?Hopefully not expensive as this bike is a rider.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Westwind WW posted by sam on 8/19/2000 at 7:43:33 PM
Maple Island Sales list Weatwind whitewall in there catolog.I think you can get s-7 whitewalls in a kenda tire too.I'd try a local bike shop.be sure and ask for tires to fit s-7 rims

MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by: Rif Addams on 8/18/2000 at 7:35:25 AM
Hello again kids!
Last Saturday, Four of us went to Old Town (Ruston) in Tacoma and what a ball we had! I brought out my middleweight '66 Schwinn Typhoon Deluxe, My buddy B.J. busted out his old swing bike, Die rode her '50 something Jaguar 3-speed, and Ken rode a pre-war Schwinn. We rode all over Wright Park for awhile, then went back to Die's house. B.J. had to leave but the other three of us had a B.B.Q., sat artound chatting and what not, then in the later evening Die brought out her '52 Western Flyer girls model and since I had aquired a flat, I got to ride her '54 J.C. Higgins boys. We cruised all up and down the waterfront enjoying the sights and sounds of the street musicians and the people wandering around. It took quite sometime as many people would stop us to talk about the bikes and reminisce about the ones they had when they were young...
After, we cruised around Old Town and looked at the historic buildings, stopped for a latte (mocha for myself). It was at this point that we decided to start a little cruiser club. Calling ourselves the Old Town Cruisers from that point on, we continued on until darknes fell. We went back to Die's, put the bikes away and decided to do it again this Monday! Boy, that was the best!
There's nothing in the world that comes close to being amidst the thriving, moving, city beat. Watching it all from the saddle of an old fat tire bike.
Anyone else do this sort of thing? We're loving it, up here in the great NorthWest.
Just thought I'd share, hope I haven't bored you all too much.

   RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Jim on 8/18/2000 at 3:15:10 PM
It was 101 degrees today down here in Southeast Texas, in the shade. Sounds like a really cool thing to be able to do. My dad, my son & I have cruised around our neighborhood on our pre-1970 Stingrays a time or two. I really enjoy the time spent doing that.

Have fun!

   RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Jim on 8/20/2000 at 8:49:37 PM
Haven't done it yet but the monark is almost ready for that sort of thing. Portland Ore. Waterfront is full of old bikes on sunny days. Personally I plan to bar hop to blues clubs at night with it which probably goes against the grain but oh well.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Rif on 8/21/2000 at 7:31:15 AM
Naw, that doesn't go against the grain at all, I've done that a time or two.
I don't know about down there, but up here they can pop you for operating a bike while under the influence if you have too much fun. As well as public intoxication. It happened to a Close Friend.
They gave him a $xxx.00 ticket and told him to WALK! the bike the rest of the way home. He didn't think it was funny but the rest of us thought it was pretty hillarious...

   RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Glenn P. on 8/21/2000 at 8:19:56 AM
Hey, Jim;
Which one (Jim) are you? I live in Portland and try to ride the waterfront everyday after 3:00PM, after work. (Hot rodded Red Schwinn 2K Cruiser Deluxe with leather streamers and 50s Monark chrome discs on front wheel, just so I don't use up the good old original iron collection.) Twice on Sat and Sun if I can. My wife and good friend get together sometimes to go bar hopping on the Eastside whenever we can, on the weekends. Maybe we can get some balloon heads together? That Tacoma crusin' sounds good too. Been trying to get there also. I'll have to set up a weekend. Let me know.


Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Jim in Texas on 8/21/2000 at 3:21:47 PM
I'm the Jim in Texas ridin' the Stingrays in 100+ degree heat. pant... pant... No nice waterfront here to ride on. Darn shame. It sounds like a really "cool" place to ride.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Jim on 8/24/2000 at 10:39:29 PM
Sounds cool. Mabe it would catch on.
50 cruisers rolling through town with bells a blazing. Coffee bars and binto stands working overtime. Kinda like a Pee Wee Sturgis. Could happen.

I probably am interested in going on a spin with you all if you are serious but Ive got to get it finished. Do reply if you want to set something up. Jim in Washougal (vancouver Wa)

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Glenn P. on 8/25/2000 at 7:23:51 AM
Hey, Jim in Vancouver;

Would this be Jim Scott? There's a swap meet coming up next month at the ranch/farm just North of Vancouver. An organized ballooner ride pub/coffee shop/binto stand crawl (take your pick) sounds fun if enough people could be persuaded. Any locals reading this interested?


Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Glenn P. on 8/25/2000 at 7:39:39 AM
Hey, Jim in Vancouver;

Would this be Jim Scott? There's a swap meet coming up next month at the ranch/farm just North of Vancouver. An organized ballooner ride pub/coffee shop/binto stand crawl (take your pick) sounds fun if enough people could be persuaded. Any locals reading this interested?


Glenn P.
Portland, Oregon

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by rif addams on 8/28/2000 at 10:08:21 AM
Yeah man, us old town cruisers are planning to attend that meet, I will be the punk/goth looking guy with spiked leather jacket.
I hope to meet some of you there.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Old Town Cruisers... posted by Jim on 8/31/2000 at 12:56:28 AM
Hey guys, what's the date & locale for that meet?

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Columbia serial no. location posted by: Robert on 8/16/2000 at 7:28:15 PM
Got an older Columbia last Sat. It is simular to the singlebar camelback pictureed in the picture database.
Date on the hub shows it to be a '57 model.
After looking all over it , I cannot find the serial no.
Where are they usually located on Columbias. May be that there is just too thick of paint buildup for it to be easily seen.

WANTED:   Schwinn Suburban or similar posted by: Carl on 8/16/2000 at 9:43:14 AM
Looking for a mens' Schwinn Suburban, or similar upright bike for my tall self (6'4"). Collegiate would be good too.


   RE:WANTED:   Schwinn Suburban or similar posted by racerrex on 8/18/2000 at 8:55:14 PM
I have a 67 Schwinn Collegiate(Purple)5sp. Good rider nearly all orig.(front brake cliper replaced with an aftermarket center pull) overall an excellent rider. was asking $75 but make me an offer.

BALLOON:   Wire Fender Skirt posted by: Juan on 8/16/2000 at 6:06:50 AM
I need a set of skirt wires for a 1935 Rollfast womens bike. Jerry Peter from Chestnut Hollow, told me that wires and yarn was used as a skirt guard. I would like to buy the whole set or even one to make a pattern. You you have what I need please send me an email.


WANTED:   1959 Columbia Firearrow posted by: Rick on 8/15/2000 at 10:00:06 AM
Hi...I looking for a tank for a 1959 Columbia Firearrow...possibly someone might have one they are willing to sell or suggest a source where I might find one

   RE:WANTED:   1959 Columbia Firearrow posted by Mark Anderson on 8/16/2000 at 4:44:02 PM
I have a complete Firearrow including tank, rack, fenders, two speed Bendix with shift lever for sale 125 plus s&h from Mpls

AGE / VALUE:   20" Balloon Tire Fenders posted by: Jim on 8/14/2000 at 5:05:34 PM
Yep. 20" is what I got. These things are new in the unopened package with brackets. Front & rear are both in there. If you need 'em I'll be more than happy to cut you a great deal. Otherwise I have no idea what I'm going to do with these things! ;)

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   20 posted by racerrex on 8/17/2000 at 1:52:27 AM
are they crome or bare metal?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   20 posted by Jim on 8/18/2000 at 3:25:13 PM
I just sold them yesterday. They were Chrome.

I have a bunch of 27" Schwinn lightweight still in packages if anyone is interested.

Hmmm... Not really the right place to be selling these! ;)

AGE / VALUE:   Shelby men's bicycle posted by: Kathy Nyako on 8/14/2000 at 9:56:09 AM
Shelby Flying Cloud nonrestored bicycle, maybe 1954. Serial number A 12851 54C 12337.

BALLOON:   J.C. Higgins 26 in. Special Deluxe Girls' Bike posted by: Mary Claire Mello on 8/13/2000 at 9:35:38 PM
I have a J.C. Higgins 26 in. Special Deluxe girl's bike that I received new as a gift circa 1952-3. It has a tank with a button horn, a rear fender rack, and what I believe are the original Allstate tires. It is Model No. 501.286. The color scheme is gray and white with red trim in various places. It is the original paint. It is missing the headlight that used to be on the front fender. Overall, it is in very good to excellent condition with minor rust, but only needs a cleaning to make it look like new. Can anyone give me some information as to the value range of this bike should I decide to sell it? Thanks for any help on this!!!

AGE / VALUE:   Leather Mesinger seat posted by: Don on 8/13/2000 at 6:02:03 AM
I purchased an old stationary exercise bike at an estate sale just because of it's seat.
It's a beautiful tan leather seat, with the wear tabs on the corners, which lead me to believe that it must have originaly been made for a bicycle.
I've looked at some pictures of old Schwinn bike seats and it is idetical to the original Schwinn Phantom seat, except that the wear tabs do not say Schwinn, and there is a small metal tab at the bottom rear of the seat that says, "Mesinger".
Would this have come from an old bike?
It looks great because it doesn't have any miles on it.
(stationary bike joke)
Thanks for any help you can give me.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Columbia Kickstand removal? posted by: Robert on 8/12/2000 at 8:03:24 PM
Bought an old Columbia middle weight today. Only problem I see so far is how do you remove the kickstand? The stand goes through the frame behind the bottom bracket. There is a small circular cover on the LH side, but no visible way to remove. Anyone with any pointers here before I get started w/ disassembly?

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Columbia Kickstand removal? posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/16/2000 at 10:57:53 AM
Call thr bike shops ask to speak to the mechanic, someone should have the special tool to remove this properly.

BALLOON:   cruiser frame size posted by: henry on 8/12/2000 at 5:52:02 PM
could any one tell some names of the larger cruiser bikes

   RE:BALLOON:   cruiser frame size posted by Matthew on 8/13/2000 at 7:51:48 PM
There are a whole lot of cruiser frames. larger frames are charcterized by thier 26 x 2.125" tires. "Back in the day", many companies made these bikes. These companies are Schwinn, Monark, J.C. Higgins, Columbia, Murray, Huffy, Western Flyer, and a lot of different store brands. Hope this helps.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   cruiser frame size posted by Jeff on 8/14/2000 at 5:13:05 AM
In this site's "Picture Database" is a dropdown list of all models. You can also do a search on just Balloon Tire models. And thier "Feature Database" has an even bigger list!

BALLOON:   cruiser frame size posted by: henry on 8/12/2000 at 5:52:02 PM
could any one tell some names of the larger cruiser bikes