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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

FOR SALE:   LADIES HAWTHORNE W/TANK & LIGHT posted by: Robin on 10/5/2001 at 3:13:05 PM
Ladies Hawthorne with tank, tail and light. Top half of torpedo light is missing, but otherwise, this bike is in great shape. rideable too. email me for more information.
You can see it at:

BALLOON:   Roadmaster Western Flyer posted by: Scot Pilkington on 10/4/2001 at 3:26:36 PM
My father gave me his bicycle from when he was a kid. It is a Roadmaster Western Flyer made by The Cleveland Weld Works. It has 26" tires, built around 1935-1940. It is in very good condition. He has repainted it and removed some of the original parts like head light etc. There is only surface rust. Everything is solid except the dry rot tires. I would like to restore it to it's original condition. Before I touch it I want to find out what it original looked like so I can duplicate it. Any help in pointing me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated. Also since this is my first restore. I would prefer not to mess it up, since so much is in good shape. So help in this area will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely & Thanks

   RE:BALLOON:   Roadmaster Western Flyer posted by sam on 10/4/2001 at 10:40:40 PM
First--take some photos of it.And I mean now!Before you start anything--flat tires and all.Second go to the step by step (photos) restoration on this site and study it.And last before you pick up a tool lets find what your bike looked like--try the photo data base here--or--www.nostalgic.net and then let us know how the project is comming-and how we can help-sam

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Roadmaster Western Flyer posted by JOEL on 10/5/2001 at 3:57:50 PM
Roadmaster and Western Flyer are two different brands made by the Cleveland Welding co. Nostalgic.net is a great source of pictures, and they show up on Ebay often too. The Evolution of the Bicycle books also have lots of pictures.

AGE / VALUE:   wards hawthorne age posted by: ronnie on 10/4/2001 at 4:20:36 AM
I'm rebuilding a wards hawthorne for my wife and trying to figure out the year it was built. It was originally purchased by my wifes grandmother but she has since passed on. the number on the bottom of the bike is A65588 53 so I'm leaning torward toward 53 as the year? can anyone confirm or correct? any info appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   wards hawthorne age posted by Gordon on 10/4/2001 at 12:59:42 PM
I don't know if it is a coincidence or not, but my boys 1953 Hawthorne (pictured in database) also has the "53" following the serial number.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   wards hawthorne age posted by sam on 10/5/2001 at 2:24:01 AM
Today I cleaned a frame on a boys Cleveland welding the serial number was B33291 530 . The zero at the end was barly visible , like they didn't strick it hard enough.Look very close at your bike and let me know if you find 3 numbers past the serial number---thinks,sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   wards hawthorne age posted by ronnie on 10/5/2001 at 10:54:54 PM
I have sanded the area to bare metal and dont remember there being a third number, There isnt one visible now.

AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN OPAQUE BLUE posted by: Kevin K on 10/3/2001 at 1:11:56 AM
Hi. Schwinn made several colors of hand grips to match the colors used to paint there bikes. Does anyone know if Opaque Blue was ever made. Thanks, Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN OPAQUE BLUE posted by Cal on 10/3/2001 at 2:19:51 PM
The only opaque blue Schwinns I can think of would be:

- racing-style (Collegiate, Super Sport, etc) and they wouldn't have grips.

- Lil Chik and/or Fairlady, which I think had white grips.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN OPAQUE BLUE posted by Kevin on 10/3/2001 at 7:38:49 PM
Hi Cal.That's what I thought. Oh well. I guess I'll stick with the black grips.Thank you, Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN OPAQUE BLUE posted by sam on 10/4/2001 at 1:12:42 AM
I have solid blue ones on the girls 1956 corvette--with schwinn scrip---sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN OPAQUE BLUE posted by Jeff on 10/4/2001 at 3:40:16 AM
I've seen these grips on the Fair Lady bikes.

BALLOON:   Schwinn cantilever posted by: Andrew on 9/30/2001 at 9:09:32 PM
Wanted to know what was the first year of the cantilever Schwinn frame, and what serial # prefix did they have ?

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn cantilever posted by Tom Findley on 10/1/2001 at 2:47:29 PM
1938 was first year.

BALLOON:   Cone locknuts posted by: Jim on 9/30/2001 at 6:03:07 AM
I have run across three schwinn balloon script hubs. None of them had cone locknuts. Is this the way they came? I found locknuts that fit but then I have to spread the forks in a way that makes me nervous. In fact both options make me nervous.

   RE:BALLOON:   Cone locknuts posted by MNSmith on 10/3/2001 at 2:27:28 AM
Well.... The lock nut is actually the one that also holds the fender braces and is on the outside of the fork. On some of the later models, Schwinn used a washer with a tab, that fit on the flat of the axle and tabbed over the cone.

Just remember, with well lubed bearings, there shouldn't be any friction to make the cone unscrew. Of course when that kite string gets caught in there........

   RE:BALLOON:   Cone locknuts posted by Jim on 10/7/2001 at 4:13:54 AM
Thanks for the info :)

MISC:   Hearts in Atlantis(Schwinn Black Phantom) posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 9/29/2001 at 5:27:56 PM
I saw the movie, Hearts in Atlantis last night and it's great! The little boy wants a bicycle but not just any bicycle but a Schwinn Black Phantom! The shop has one on a rotating disc in the window. It turns around and around with the gleaming chrome flashing. Talk about a effective window display! When was the last time you saw a window display where anything moved/turned?

   RE:MISC: Wild and Woolly World,then and now. posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 10/6/2001 at 6:14:19 PM
After some discussion, my questions were answered. This was in the 1950's where people didn't run in to the doctor for things like a dislocated arm. Kids didn't run to the police over bullies, especailly if it is your word against theirs. I never saw this type stuff,never heard of it. We were blessed, big time! People didn't sue at the drop of a hat then, times were very diffrent. I mean, today you'd get on your cell phone and call it in. Bang Zoom! In no time flat, theres a cop there and you're pressing charging and sueing. Today's kids have a phone with them on the bike. There were nasty bullies like this, they had wire that they wraped papers with and they'd hit you with it.
The 50's were very wild, then the 60's with free love. Still, we felt safe to let kids roam the neighborhood back then Unless you had a bully about like in the movie, I guess. Ask your parents and grandparents for their stories about life in- growing up in the 1950's I don't go seeking stories from people but the things I have heard from total strangers are unbelievable.

   RE:RE:MISC: Wild and Woolly World,then and now. posted by Guido on 10/8/2001 at 1:50:13 PM
Christopher, I asked my work partner about that movie, he said he`s seen it. He said the newest car he spotted in that movie was a 1959 Buick or something or other. Which would put the Phantom in the window as one of the last year made. HEY, E-mail me. I have something that Sam wants me to send you in the E-mail, but it keeps getting returned. ;-)

AGE / VALUE:   columbia westfield posted by: Russ on 9/15/2001 at 7:31:00 PM
looking for approx. $ value of a columbia westfield all original accept tires as they were to far gone. color:blue/cream, not sure of year was looking for a comparison photo but came up empty....? may be interested in selling after finding out more info, can anyone help please.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   columbia westfield posted by Jeff on 10/2/2001 at 6:49:48 PM
I saw a 1950s Westfield ballooner at a yard sale this weekend for $50. It was a woman's model, no tank, rack, springer, truss rods or anything but she sure rode nice.
This was a ballooner, not a middleweight.

Snapped it right up, FYI.

FOR SALE:   I have a Mountain of NOS, collectible bikes, and parts to sell. posted by: Gary M on 9/14/2001 at 9:20:06 PM
You name it i bet i can get it. boxes of parts. sweetheart chainrings, stands, chaingaurds, Delta lighting parts, and complete units NOS. clean used Delta in most any style. Name the bike i can get it. Rear steer courting tandem? yep. Shaft drives? 3 of them. triple seat Schwinn? yup
6 man racing direct drive track bike? sure. wooden wheeled track schwinn, engraved with the riders initials? ok! Monark Hex frames? 3 of them. Cycle truck? yup, AND a Roadmaster cycletruck. How about the 1953 Jaguar that set behind the CEO of Schwinns desk from 1953 until they moved overseas? MINT!!. and its a prototype model, one of the first. Balloon tire bikes by the ton. NOS Sewn-up tire assemblies. some NOS Schwinn, and a small amount of repop.
BSA bike. Colson Tank mens bike. Early Schwinn Phantom.
78 {last year???} 5sp stingray. Manta Ray. Ross with the half wheel. Sears Screamers, and other forms of muclebikes.
20s bikes by the truckload. ask and you may receive.

   RE:FOR SALE:   I have a Mountain of NOS, collectible bikes, and parts to sell. posted by John Malone on 9/29/2001 at 1:48:18 PM
Could you E-mail a picture of your rear steer tandem,I have been looking for a courting double seater.

   RE:FOR SALE:   I have a Mountain of NOS, collectible bikes, and parts to sell. posted by AJ on 9/30/2001 at 4:40:55 AM
d you have a pic of the 53 jaguar and how much are you askin for it?

   RE:FOR SALE:   I have a Mountain of NOS, collectible bikes, and parts to sell. posted by Eric on 10/3/2001 at 7:42:03 PM
looking for delta rocket ray, early postwar schwinn fender light cover, Schwinn deluxe pedals, and schwinn rear drum brake (non-tandem) the whole unit or parts and Schwinn Phantom/Panther seat. Have $$$ let me know.

   RE:FOR SALE:   I have a Mountain of NOS, collectible bikes, and parts to sell. posted by Brian on 10/4/2001 at 2:51:00 AM
I want a Harley Davidson, an Indian and a U.S. made John Deere. Also about 10 HD sprockets. Thanks in advance

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   I have a Mountain of NOS, collectible bikes, and parts to sell. posted by Nelson on 11/8/2001 at 8:56:23 PM
By any chance u have parts for a 30's Iver Johnson?

BALLOON:    posted by: Rif Addams on 9/14/2001 at 10:36:54 AM
Hi all,
I have recently aquired a girls Huffman Thunderbolt. I have no idea whatsoever as to this bike.
I know very little about this make, this company etc.
I have gleaned small tidbits of info, but would really like to know more.
1/2 inch pitch chain, rear facing dropouts (this seems to be carried into the late fifties by huffy as my 57 customliner also has rear facing dropouts)
the head badge says Thunderbolt with a WW2 looking plane and a banner in the fore ground with Huffman on it.
It has been painted a metallic purple but the original mint green color is underneath. Can you give any info of the company,and or this model?

AGE / VALUE:   Goodyear Double Eagle Clipper by Colson posted by: Paul Nusbaum on 9/13/2001 at 10:04:49 AM
I am restoring a 1941 Goodyear Double Eagle Clipper
and am looking for a Chain Guard and Delta Roadlighter Headlight. I also need other small parts
such as a Persons Rear Carrier Reflector, Handgrips, and aTroxel Deluze Saddle in Black. I would really
appreciate any photos or information on this bike.
I thank you. Take Care, Paul Nusbaum

AGE / VALUE:   Sunday posted by: sam on 9/11/2001 at 9:35:01 PM
A columbia shaft drive,schwinn motorbike.an airo-cycle,two kinds of paratrooper bikes,a german 3-speed in the BB,a hex bar silverking,several elgins,lots of phantoms,an M&L raceing BMX,and the peoples choise a french bike with a motor and springer fork.And a car show too.Sunday was a good day.Today was not.---sam

AGE / VALUE:   HUFFY WITHDRAWS IN BIDDING FOR SCHWINN posted by: Tom Findley on 9/11/2001 at 11:45:53 AM
I think this means that Direct Focus?nautilus will be the winner.

MIAMISBURG, Ohio, Sept. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Huffy Corporation (NYSE: HUF - news) confirmed today that it withdrew from the bidding in the auction in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the District of Colorado.

Don R. Graber, Chairman, CEO and President of Huffy Corporation said, ``While we are disappointed that we will not be able to add the Schwinn/GT brands to our current brand portfolio, I would like to thank all of the employees of Schwinn/GT for their dedication during an extremely trying time and for their assistance during the sale process. Unfortunately, the levels of bids reached a point at which Huffy Corporation believes that the price exceeded the value of the assets and trademarks. While we remain confident that our business model for the integration of the Schwinn/GT would have ultimately been very successful, the current economic environment simply will not allow for significant overpayment in a business that has proven to be very difficult over the past three years.''

Graber concluded by saying, ``In our view, in the current economic environment, we will continue to see a variety of opportunities to add to our existing portfolio of products and services. With a debt free balance sheet and anticipated increase in cash and investments as we move through the end of the fiscal year, we are well positioned to pursue opportunities to add to shareholder value.''

Huffy Corporation (NYSE: HUF - news) is a leading provider of consumer and retail services and a leading supplier of bicycles and home basketball equipment.

The discussion in this press release contains forward-looking statements and is qualified by the cautionary statements contained in the Company's report on Form 8-K, dated March 6, 2001.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   HUFFY WITHDRAWS IN BIDDING FOR SCHWINN posted by Salvatore on 9/13/2001 at 5:18:13 AM
Great news. I added more comments under the musclebike topic.

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Boardwalk posted by: Harry on 9/10/2001 at 1:05:32 PM
Can anyone provide information on this model, age,value,
no. produced? Thank you in advance.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Boardwalk posted by jb durham on 11/26/2001 at 2:51:52 PM
what did you ever learn about the boardwalk? I have the same questions. The rear axle, sturmey archer, appears to be from 1983. what is it worth?

WANTED:   Pink, White or Chrome Chaingaurd, 1960 era Schwinn posted by: Gary M on 9/9/2001 at 8:59:14 PM
looking to restore this awesome 1960 Ladies 3speed, unsure of model, would like an original Debutante chaingaurd, and a set of hand brakes complete. Any info on this bike would be nice. paint is faded to the point that i dont know if the frame is pink or white. Seat is pink, tank is pink. will paint bike pink and trim in white unless someone has a pic or info about this model. I figure this model should be pretty rare, as usually most ladies bikes get parted out to fix mens bikes.

   RE:WANTED:   Pink, White or Chrome Chaingaurd, 1960 era Schwinn posted by MNSmith on 9/9/2001 at 11:25:55 PM
Gary, The ladies models available in 2 or 3 speed in 1960 were the Fair Lady, Co-ed, Hollywood, Traveler, and Racer. Those were 26" models. In 24" there was only the Racer offered. I hope this helps.