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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   schwinn miss teen? posted by: uncle casey on 11/16/2001 at 7:50:20 PM
has anyone ever heard of a schwinn miss teen? i just picked one of these up the other day. i've never heard of a miss teen. it looks very similar to a fair lady. any info would be of great help. thanks.

AGE / VALUE:   New Departure overhaul posted by: sam on 11/16/2001 at 12:13:57 AM
When overhauling a model D new depature rear hub what do I do for the clutch disks? I mean should they be sanded or anything?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   New Departure overhaul posted by Joel on 11/16/2001 at 5:52:00 PM
I usually just cleam the grease off and go with them. The little brake actuator thingy (whatever it's called) is usually worn and can fail so I replace them for safety.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   New Departure overhaul posted by Gordon on 11/17/2001 at 1:32:04 AM
Brake actuator thingy is called a transfer spring. I have them if you need one.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   New Departure overhaul posted by sam on 11/18/2001 at 1:39:50 PM
Thinks guys I'll clean the disks real good of grease and see if that takes care of it.

AGE / VALUE:   Serial Number Confusion (still) posted by: Kent on 11/15/2001 at 5:31:11 AM
Howdy Kids, According to the chart I'm looking at, certain SN ranges seem to fall in more than one year. i.e. B00001 —> B99999 is in both 1952 & 1953. There are a lot like that. Am I missing something? How do you date your bike exactly using the charts available online? Thanks! Kent

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial Number Confusion (still) posted by Tom Findley on 11/15/2001 at 12:44:11 PM
You are not missing anything. When dating a serial number used in more than 1 year, it is very hard to determine. You would need to see the same model bike from each year to note the difference. My original Phantom is a '53, '54, or '57. Enogh parts were missing that I couldn't tell the exact year.

So the thing you could do is say the bike was made somewhere in '53 or '54.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial Number Confusion (still) posted by Doug on 11/15/2001 at 1:21:27 PM
Thanks for clearing that up Tom Ive never been an einstein as far as #s go, thought it was just me.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial Number Confusion (still) posted by Gary M on 11/17/2001 at 7:54:50 AM
Should be obvious, these are just model runs, a series that was ongoing.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial Number Confusion (still) posted by Kent on 11/17/2001 at 1:10:49 PM
"obvious"?!, "model runs"?!, "ongoing series"?! HUH???!!! I am new to all of this, so nothing is that obvious. Just trying to date my bikes and learn something as I go. Thanks, Kent

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   two speed posted by: rich on 11/14/2001 at 6:57:48 PM
I have a two speed shwinn can anybody tell me anything about it

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   two speed posted by sam on 11/14/2001 at 7:56:40 PM
Middleweights were new models for 1955.some models came with the bendix manuel 2-speed.Later bendix changed to the auto 2-speed(3 bands on hub)

WANTED:   repro schwinn stuff posted by: L.Wright on 11/12/2001 at 4:07:33 PM
I'm restoring a 51 Hornet, lookin for a place to get repro
Schwinn stuff. internet web-site?

Thanx all

   RE:WANTED:   repro schwinn stuff posted by Doug on 11/13/2001 at 9:05:05 AM
try www.memorylaneclassics.com not a lot on the web site but you can order a catalog there full of stuff some NOS some re pro also maple island sales in MO. both great co. to get parts from old roads has some stuff too check it out have fun on youre restore.

AGE / VALUE:   skip tooth? posted by: Bob Stormer on 11/12/2001 at 8:09:52 AM
Found a 'skip tooth' Schwinn. Where do I find information on it? Trying to estimate year and model. I've looked all over this site, not much on 'skip tooth' bikes.

When did they make them, what period of years? Where there a lot of models of them?

Many thanks in advance. =0)


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   skip tooth? posted by Joel on 11/12/2001 at 7:27:21 PM
Yes, many models. Balloon tires introduced in 1933. Skip chains used into the 50s on some bikes. There's a pre wwII Schwinn book (Pridmore & Hurd) with catalog info 1933-42.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   skip tooth? posted by sam on 11/15/2001 at 2:06:10 PM
Bob check out this site http://www.concentric.net/'rrrrguy/bike.html Mark should be able to help--email him

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   skip tooth? posted by MNSmith on 11/16/2001 at 1:19:54 AM
Sometimes that tilde doesn't translate so well. http://www.concentric.net/%7Errrrguy/bike.html works also. Sure, send your questions!!

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   fender repairs posted by: david on 11/12/2001 at 1:31:23 AM
The rear fender on my schwinn corvette has some dings/dents in it, I'd like to fix this myself, how do I repair/restore this.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   fender repairs posted by freddie on 11/12/2001 at 8:35:33 AM
A dolly and body hammer will work great.. You can get at any auto supply shop. Pratice on some light gage sheet metal 1st. Flashing from a hardwear store works good. about$4.00 for a 30 ft. roll with a little pratice you can remove any dent. Good luck. Freddie

   use a small wooden mallet and a peice of soft pine posted by Gary M on 11/12/2001 at 9:46:12 PM
Stretching the metal is very bad. need to work the dents out slowly and patiently. if it stretches out the metal will never be right. its not a race, so work the dent out, dont pound it out. the metal actually wants to revert back to its original state, it just needs intelligent coaxing to get it back.

   RE:use a small wooden mallet and a peice of soft pine posted by A friend on 11/13/2001 at 2:48:09 AM
This is all great information. I just like too add one more tech tip; take a peice of sand paper like 220 grit or 180, and sand under the fender and feel for the high spots. You will notice these flaws to be a bit more noticable. Now take a magic marker, or crayon and circle them. Now start at the bottom, or at the top and work out your dents. Like these other guys recommended, "take your time". I like the pine with the wood hammer idea. That seems to be a better attempt for a beginner. Use soft blows," and get better results. Your trying to correct the flaws, not add too them. Good luck too you.

   RE:RE:use a small wooden mallet and a peice of soft pine posted by Joel on 11/13/2001 at 3:43:27 PM
I use the soft pine and mallet technique too. I have several pieces of scrap wood that I have filed down to fit various shapes. Have a stiff cushion to hammer against.

AGE / VALUE:   old bicycle ad posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/11/2001 at 5:48:12 PM
I found a old ad with Balloon tire bikes in it. The crazy thing is, it's an ad for Kotex! The ladies are riding bikes with cool chainguards with circles on them.
Other ads with bikes offer a unknown balloon tire bike to young women if they sell magazine subscriptions. I see lovely colorful ads for Campbels soup, Bon Ami cleanser but no large, splashy,color bike ads. They didn't do this like others did.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   old bicycle ad posted by Cal on 11/14/2001 at 1:27:11 PM
So many ads on TV right now have an old bike in them. Lately I've been seeing a lot of English bikes.

Then there are the MTV videos - not just the ones with BMX guys going crazy, but the ones with lowriders and muscle bikes.

AGE / VALUE:    Take a look! posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/9/2001 at 4:48:48 PM
This looks like a good book to have! E- bay item #1030547932 1913 Bicycle repairing
No relation to seller, not my auction
all that stuff

BALLOON:   www.classicriders.com posted by: Greg on 11/9/2001 at 1:50:27 PM
Check out our revised "Classicfieds" section. Stay tuned for new additions to the rest of the web site in the next few weeks. Thanks.

   RE:BALLOON:   www.classicriders.com posted by dan on 11/11/2001 at 11:59:09 PM
I got a bike from my mother it's a Western Flyer girls bike. We can't find out how old it is or what it's worth.
It is somewhere around 1952 - 1955, and in excellent condition. the serial number under the sprocket reads:A68052 with an offset # of 55C.Any info would be greatly appreciated

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   www.classicriders.com posted by dan on 11/16/2001 at 8:49:09 AM
i believe this bike is a 1955 columbia western flyer with bendix wheels 2.125 and bendix coaster brake.the only one left in the world?

AGE / VALUE:   schwinn american deluxe posted by: mike on 11/8/2001 at 11:14:27 PM
I just bought a schwinn american deluxe s/n j325153 all there except the tank and back rack it has a bendex automatic hub with 3 red stripes original westwind tires everything else orginal did I pay too much 10 bucks?were can I get tires for it the ones on it hold air but are weather cracked and I dont trust them on a ride.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn american deluxe posted by Gordon on 11/9/2001 at 1:26:32 AM
Our local Schwinn dealer always stocks tires for S7 rims, try your nearest dealer.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn american deluxe posted by OK thanks on 11/9/2001 at 2:32:47 AM
OK thanks I hope he has the orginal wetwind type so I can keep it looking stock

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn american deluxe posted by Doug on 11/9/2001 at 2:13:41 PM
Memory lane and maple island sales also have the origional Schwinn westwinds although they are no longer made in the u.s.a.

AGE / VALUE:   Off topic posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/8/2001 at 5:30:40 PM
Found a motorized lawn sweeper last night, Big Briggs/ Stratton in front beat out the other folks who look for goodies. Took it home, started it up ran around after it, swept up all the leaves and crab apples grinning like a nitwit.lawn looks wonderful, it's all done now and it was free. They had cleaned out the garage and there was a mower and two sweepers and alternators and unadentified machinery. The old grizzled scrap metal guy handed me a card and told me right off, point blank that he works alone. He has hundreds of bikes he said. Here we go again. Saw the same lady and her blue truck today, she's nice and friendly but more competition.Construction worker dude cuts me off, going across 3 lanes at 60 mph to go in the turn around lane to go the other way. I barely hit him and laid rubber. Heart rate goes way, way up and I'm trembling because it was so very, very close this time.With every fibre in me I wish I could be a traffic cop only for 5 minutes with the blue uniform, haircut, badge,car, and the wonderful little ticket book that I would surely make use of! I keep going on my way dreaming about being a traffic cop. His tailgate was down over the plate # too. I suppose a cop has to be cool, collected, laid back and able to groove on these situations perhaps even enjoy parts of the job but it ain't for me despite getting to fry drivers like this and what do I know about it anyways? I could'a really been hurt bad/killed. I looked into the mirror and I still exist even if he didn't think so.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Off topic misadventure posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/9/2001 at 5:07:17 PM
If this guy makes a habit of cutting people off on this particular stretch of roadway they'll catch him pretty soon because it's well patrolled. They hide out and catch speeder and it's rare not to see someone along here on lookout or running radar or whatever they do. The station and courthouse "hive" is right there. That surprised me I guess, where this happened. You'd have to be really nuts and he was. Then again, if a cop was visable to him, he wouldn't have pulled this stunt.

AGE / VALUE:   Huffy 26x1.75 cruiser posted by: Gary M on 11/8/2001 at 4:59:23 AM
just got in this real nice Huffy. Sticker on front looks really old. its a 26x1.75 mid weight cruiser. Such nice condition as well. paint is faded bad though. should leave it or paint it? not rusty. Its not a real valuable peice, so i am sure to paint it, its a simple scheme anyway.
i will tape off the sticker and respray it. how do you determine the age?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy 26x1.75 cruiser posted by Chris on 11/9/2001 at 4:51:15 PM
From what I have been able to determine, Huffy bikes from approx. 1955 through 1972 have the year of manufacture for the first digit of the serial number. The problem is that a 6 could mean either 1956 or 1966. You have to look at other features of the bike to determine the decade. The model name of the bike (Camaro, Fury, etc), the design of the chainwheel (star-shaped, slotted, mag wheel), and a few other details can help you determine the correct decade. If you can post some more details, I might be able to figure it out.

   picture of it on file here posted by Gary M on 11/9/2001 at 10:37:46 PM
look under Huffy in the pic database, look at the 59 eldorado. remove the tank and rack. put on a chrome chaingaurd, paint the fenders red, and the wheels white. I would suspect that the black on that bike is not original.
i am sure this chrome chaingaurd is wrong. ser number starts with OH57. then below the number is another OH57 by itself

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy 26x1.75 cruiser posted by Chris on 11/12/2001 at 2:02:58 PM
Take a look at the chainwheel on the 56 Huffy Radiobike in the picture database. If your chainwheel matches this design, then your bike is most likely from 1960. If your chainwheel looks more like a star, your bike is most likely from 1970 (the star design was introduced in 1962). I agree that the chrome chainguard is not original. If your bike never had a tank, it is probably a Belair. That model came with white-painted rims and painted fenders. Do your rims have red pinstripes? Somewhere in the years 63-65 they stopped putting the red pinstripes on the white rims.

   chainwheel the same as the 56 radio bike and the 59 eldorado posted by Gary M on 11/12/2001 at 10:04:14 PM
the rims are white with red pinstriping. I fail to see why the identical sprocket as a 1956 makes it a 62. i was always told that the first letter after the H was the year.
mine is OH57. so if red pinstripes were gone in 63 that leaves 55, or 57. but again i dont know.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy 26x1.75 cruiser posted by Chris on 11/13/2001 at 1:36:34 PM
I was told that the number in front of the letter is the year (in your case, a zero). The sprocket design that is pictured on the 56 bike was used through 1961 (in 1962 Huffy started using a star design sprocket). This is why I think your bike is a 1960.

   I agree posted by Gary M on 11/13/2001 at 5:45:05 PM
i was incorrect, it is the first number, not the one after, that signifies the year. and i am now positive it is a 1960. what other models were there? or is the red, and the year a key to model names? I do want an origianl chaingaurd, i hate this chrome cheap junk. This Huffy is a really nice bike, wonder when the quality took such a drastic hit.

AGE / VALUE:   what do i have posted by: freddie on 11/7/2001 at 9:11:03 AM
I just aquired a older canadian bike. Copper head badge stamped CCM. Very ornate lug work,The letters CCm support the outer edge of the chainring like spokes. ccm stamped on the caps on top of the forks. Paint is good with a lot of artwork of crowns and the like. It has 28X1.75 tires. Full plated fenders with brass caps on the ends. Imperial Mark II on the chain gard. Peerless hubs and a strange kick stand .E088868 is stamped on the left dropout. Any ideas on what I have,age?Any info would be helpful Thanks

AGE / VALUE:   unknown rarity posted by: hank on 11/6/2001 at 1:00:16 PM
Have female bicycle w/Associated Merchants USA- Matchless Chicago stamped on front badge. There is no serial nos. that I can find. Also has Gillette Ambassador 28" balloon tires on wooden rims. I have been searching for two years for info. HELP!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   unknown rarity posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/7/2001 at 12:19:30 AM
As you already know, you have something here. Scroll down a ways and go to "more messages" It's in the "National Cycle Co thread" and e- mail Greg. He should know and anyways you would be in good, knowledgeable company and it's folks like him that'll help you find the answer.