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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

BALLOON:   Tandem Rear Drum Brake posted by: Eric on 11/5/2001 at 5:38:48 PM
Looking for instructions or scematics on Schwinn large flange REAR drum brake off of a tandem. It is not the Atom type. Websites? Tips? Pics?


FOR SALE:   prewar macy's cyclone 60 tank bike posted by: tim on 11/4/2001 at 3:56:54 PM
I would like to sell this bike to one of us before i try to sell it on ebay.
email me directly . Thanks. tim




AGE / VALUE:   What the heck is it? posted by: Bob Stormer on 11/3/2001 at 8:38:14 AM
I've been all over this forum looking to figure out what kind of bike I have.

I'm starting to believe that it's maybe 2 bikes that were hobbled together given the circumstances of the owner needing parts, BUT, the bike is clean enough that I'm having trouble with that logic.

The serial number on the frame is If it were a Schwinn, it might be a 1964, but there is no way it's that new and the lower tube doesn't match any Schwinn shape. The double bar is smaller in diameter than the top tube and goes straight across and about parallel to the ground. The only crank I've seen that matches it is on the 1940-1950 Shelby bikes where the cutouts in the front sprocket look like petals on a flower. The tube from the cranks to the steering tube really follows the shape of the front tire, like more than anybody elses. And it reminds me of a mid to early 40's Elgin.

Before I can get some pics, anybody with some ideas?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What the heck is it? posted by Bob Stormer on 11/5/2001 at 12:33:14 AM
Okay, got some pictures of the bikes. Hope somebody might know what they are. Many thanks in advance. =0)


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What the heck is it? posted by Joel on 11/5/2001 at 3:37:17 PM
The first bike looks like a 50s Cleveland Welding Co frame with a Shelby sprocket and 60s rack (Huffy/Murray?). Your basic frankenbike.

The second is a 60s tandem, probably a Murray or Huffy built frame sold by Western Auto.

BALLOON:   Balloon Tire Skiptooth Tandem posted by: Brad on 11/2/2001 at 12:09:04 AM
I just acquired a cool balloon tire skiptooth tandem bicycle. I am confused about a few things, it has one schwinn sweetheart skiptooth sprockets, and two other skiptooth cranks, no headbadge, a blue and cream original paint scheme, drop center rims, but schwinn style forks. THe hubs are new departure. I am pretty sure the paint is original, and the welds are done very well, so I can't believe it would be a home made deal. Does anyone have info on balloon tire tandems! Who may have made this beast! I can email pictures to anyone who wishes to unravel this mystery.

   RE:BALLOON:   Balloon Tire Skiptooth Tandem posted by sam on 11/2/2001 at 1:55:28 PM
most if not all made tandems.Schwinn listed them under special models.Your maybe a schwinn(and a skip tooth would make it more valuable).I don't have any info no them, only see them sell on ebay for high prices---sam

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Balloon Tire Skiptooth Tandem posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 11/2/2001 at 4:07:14 PM
When the various bicycle books were written the "Powers that be" decided to omit any mention of these skip tooth balloon tire tandems apart from a photo of one. No descriptions,years produced,colors, how many were made, how popular or not, no old catalog reprints showing these, nothing! They just decided not to cover it at all. So now when these machines surface folks don't know a thing. Other than when these do show up on E- bay once in a blue moon we see them or perhaps at a swap meet. Where is the refrence material to go to when it comes to skip tooth (pre-war) balloon tire tandems? I went through a old ancient shop and pulled about 40 of these sweethheart double chainring tandem sprockets out. Diffrent companies made diffrent tandem sprockets but those seemed to have sliped into obscurity too. Now the 1960's Scwwinn mini- Twin and the larger wheel Schwinn- Twinn are shown and covered. The middleweights and krates, and solo balloon tire bikes are shown and go get the book(s) anyways as it's a great place to start but there is lots left out. I would get it rideable and go have fun with it. We don't see too many of these. I would imagine these are rare.I don't remember when the last one poped up and what the price was or want it sold for. One thing for certain, these are an interesting part of the company's history and a good find.

   RE:BALLOON:   Balloon Tire Skiptooth Tandem posted by sam on 11/4/2001 at 5:09:04 PM
Yesterday I was looking at a Colson steer form the rear skip tooth tandem--interesting bike,with an interesting story to go with it.I like stopping by Hanks.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Schwinn posted by: Fred A on 11/1/2001 at 6:54:57 PM
Hi everyone...

I recently purchased a 1966 Schwinn mens 26'' bike with a cantilever frame. The bike had been repainted black with a brush (its original color I found out when I stripped the paint off). Problem is, is have no idea what model it was. A Panther, I think. It has the half-tank with horn, all chrome and chainguard again all chrome. (Fenders are chrome, also.) I know the tank & chainguard were painted partially, but they were stripped when I got it. Rear rack has the four reflectors and front rack is the usual book carrying type. Bike is all original, down to the ''S'' seat and single stripe rear hub.
I want to restore it, but can't find any photos of a 1966 Panther to follow for actual reference. I own some Schwinn books, but they don't have what I'm looking for. Can any of you out there lead me in the right direction? I know where to get the decals(Memory Lane)but the photos are what I really need right now.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!


PS If anyone thinks it's not a Panther, please let me know that also!!!

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Schwinn posted by Lester on 11/2/2001 at 6:50:45 PM
And if you DO think it's a Panther, don't anther.

AGE / VALUE:   JCHiggins posted by: Robyn on 11/1/2001 at 11:40:12 AM
I have just aquired a Royal JCHiggins Sears Roebuck 26" womans bicycle,in good cond. tire size is 26x2.15 Allstate these appear to be original tires, there is a metal tag on the spokes that has 53 on it,It's green and white w/double pinstripes on fenders and single pinsrtipe on each side of painted rims. i assume this would reflect the age and expect this is a registration tag, I looked all over and found no indication of a serial# i would like to find out the correct age and value of this bicycle if anyone can help. Thanks.

   ROBYN & SEAN re: JCHiggins posted by Joel on 11/1/2001 at 3:38:01 PM
ROBYN & SEAN, JC Higgins bikes were made for Sears from the late 40s to early 60s. Your discriptions do not provide enough info to identify your bikes. If you can email a picture I can identify.

AGE / VALUE:   JC HIGGINS(looking for info) posted by: SEAN STEINMANN on 10/31/2001 at 9:01:40 AM
I just bought a really nice all orange JC Higgins cruiser. It seems to be all origanl,except maybe for the forks,and the light on the front fender. I would like to find out what year it might have been put out by sears,also maybe some photos to compare it to.
Any help would be cool! thanks

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Searching for new bike posted by: Bonnie Anderson on 10/31/2001 at 5:09:24 AM
Hey, I found a great site of bikes with many retro style comfort cruiser type bikes. They were designed and made at the shop. The shop may be in Florida but I am not sure. They had this cool green bike with a tiki theme and a girls bike that was light pink with retro letters and bowling pins painted on it. the bikes all had cool names and were styled like bikes from varius brands in the 50's - 70's. PLEASE help me find this web site. I have spent hours trying to relocate it and I want a bike from them. They remind me of the Schwinn bikes in the 50's with the chrome and lights. Thank you, Bonnie Anderson

   Try This!! posted by MNSmith on 10/31/2001 at 6:23:56 AM
http://www.kustomkruiser.com/ That should get you to the Dyno site. Although you might want to hurry, I don't think they are being made anymore.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Searching for new bike posted by sam on 10/31/2001 at 7:20:17 PM
A site I though was cool was www.aerofast.com

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Searching for new bike posted by Ralph on 11/1/2001 at 2:33:29 AM
Check ebay under cruiser. I think I saw the one you are looking for posted. Good luck.....

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Wanted , RED " S " seat with crash bar for 59 Schwinn Jaguar ,, posted by: Erick on 10/31/2001 at 5:06:34 AM
Hi , I am looking for the seat for a 59 schwinn Jaguar , RED " S " seat with chrome crash bar , get back to me with what you have , Thanks

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   CCM posted by: Maggie Thomas on 10/29/2001 at 8:05:12 PM
I just picked an old CCM single speed with a rear coaster brake. Amy info. on the history or these bikes and how to date them?


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   CCM posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 10/29/2001 at 10:33:50 PM
Canada Cycle and Motor, they had a plant in Waterloo, Ontario. These are great coaster brake hubs.
If you have the large 28 inch wheels, these are the Canadian size 28 x 1 1 /2 for Westwood pattern rims. These tires do not interchange with British 28 X 1 1 /2 tires. There are two sizes and you want to specify Canadian size. If you need tires, post here and someone will help you. Mine was Maroon with white pinstripes and a nice bike. Please describe this , what size wheels, color, e.t.c
As time went on, the hockey(sporting goods) side of the business did better than the bicycle side and so the name was sold. Now C.C.M. bikes are back. I have a C.C.M catalog

FOR SALE:   Boys prewar Shelby Hiawatha 24 in posted by: Gary M on 10/29/2001 at 4:14:06 AM
this peice is in very good condition. skip tooth rear droputs, cool looking frame wheels are nice, easy resto.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Boys prewar Shelby Hiawatha 24 in posted by dale on 10/30/2001 at 4:51:45 PM
Can you send me pictures? I might want it................ old bikefreak @yahoo.com

FOR SALE:   schwinn town and country 3 spd. posted by: ronnie on 10/28/2001 at 2:50:38 AM
i have a 75 schwinn town and country three wheel 3 spd. bicycle with a sears free spirit motor on the front. if interested please e-mail.
thank you

AGE / VALUE:   Serial number help, please posted by: Kent on 10/28/2001 at 2:29:18 AM
Greetings, I just got 2 Schwinn Hornets via eBay (one red, one black,they were local,original owner) and could use some serial # help and value opinions. They are in what I would call "good" condition for their age. Black one's SN is PO3993, It looks to me like that should be a 1954, right? Red is B1544, that one I can't figure out although I'm assuming it should be of similar vintage. Thanks in advance for any help & advice!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial number help, please posted by goob on 10/29/2001 at 11:40:32 PM
I think maybe one number did not stamp well or u are missing it. Schwinn did not have any 4 letter numbers for that period.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Serial number help, please posted by Kent on 10/30/2001 at 1:25:54 AM
Thanks Goob! I thought that seemed odd. Upon closer inspection I missed a 3 at the end (under the rack brace) my fault. I think I have the years figured out, was just looking for some expert comfirmation.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1957 Mark II Jaguar posted by: Pat Sullivan on 10/27/2001 at 1:25:07 AM
Need to know if a reproduction Phantom Rack and Tail Light
are close to the original rack and light for the Mark II.
Don't know where to get the original and probably can't afford it anyway. I have the reproduction Phantom parts.
Pat Sullivan

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1957 Mark II Jaguar posted by A J on 10/27/2001 at 6:12:34 PM
yes the rack is identical,the tail like is also a very good match

AGE / VALUE:   Westfield Date codes? posted by: Dennis Moon on 10/26/2001 at 10:48:46 PM
I was wondering if anyone would know if Westfield Date codes follow the exact same letter designation as Columbia's. I have a clean original 40's Westfield ladies bicycle that starts with "K" which should make it a 1946....but it starts with 2 (K 26530)....not 5 as the list shows a Columbia would. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Westfield Date codes? posted by JC on 10/27/2001 at 12:22:38 AM
They were made on the same assembly line after the Great Depression.

My Guess:

Maybe the 2 and the 5 designate Columbia .vs. Westfield?

Were they still making Popes at that time? What about Westfield motorcycles?