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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

MISC:   Shorter History of Completed Ebay Auctions??? posted by: AllAntiques on 2/20/2001 at 11:43:04 AM
I used to be able to use Ebay to research antique bike prices, but now they seem to only keep a 2-week history. It used to be you could go back months and find all kinds of bikes and prices.
Anyone else notice this?

AGE / VALUE:   Carlisle Studded White Wall Tire Dating HELP ! posted by: Brian on 2/20/2001 at 8:12:48 AM
I have two identical studded balloon white wallsThey are like new with full nubbies all down the center. They have the ID on them of UU(2 1)117 can anyone tell me the date they were made? They also say CARLISLE NYLON 26 by 2.125 Made in U.S.A. FITS T & RA HB 11 RIM Any clue would be greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Carlisle Studded White Wall Tire Dating HELP ! posted by Sal on 2/20/2001 at 9:17:55 AM
Do you se a round "dial" on them? Kind of like a clock? I forget if Carlisle used that method for dates.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Carlisle Studded White Wall Tire Dating HELP ! posted by Brian on 2/20/2001 at 10:46:49 AM
The circle dating is for Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. Carlisle Brand tires use a C then the month then year as in C(12-8) and united states Rubber Co. used U-V... I`m stumped on this though

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Carlisle Studded White Wall Tire Dating HELP ! posted by brian on 2/21/2001 at 6:11:17 PM
A fine gentleman named Charles told me the UU was for Uniroyal,but I still can`t figure the numbers.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: aaron on 2/19/2001 at 8:36:38 PM
i found a guy who has a barn full of old balloon tire bicycles. he bought out a local bike shop in 1960 and hauled all the bikes to his barn. he then disassembled them by tossing wheels up in the loft, fenders in a huge pile, and frames in the deepest pile that i had ever seen! The frames were of all different types of bikes found in town during that time period. Most of the bikes are balloon tire, i found one 1960 schwinn spitfire frame but that was the youngest. all the stuff in the barn had some rust on it. other frames for mens bikes that i purchased were monark rocket, jc higgins, schwinn excelsors ect, elgin, monark, hiawatha, stelber, schwinn goodrich, and road master. the majority of the bikes are skip tooth, and the old style balloner frame. i found only 2.5 tanks in the parts piles. the hubs from the wheels were mostly prewar jc higgins and new departure or bendix. my questions are as follows:
1. how should these frames be best and cheaply repainted? with spray paint or brush after prime and a sand blast?
2. where and how much are mens full sized tanks for these bikes?
3. how is the best way to get frozen pedals and pedal cranks off-the guy said to soak them in gasoline- is there another more sensible way?
4. what about frozen handle bars?
5. should i return and pick up a super rusted schwinn sting ray 5 speed that is sitting by the barn- i already paid a dollar for it?
6. are old prewar hubs worth anything especially the jc higgins?
thanks for any help

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Robert on 2/19/2001 at 9:51:01 PM
Well my jaws are hanging with envy. Great score Aaron. I will probably never score on the deal you just landed. You will have so many questions that could take up the whole of this site. First I highly recommend that you take survey of what is necessary for you to undertake in the process of either putting these bikes back together correctly for restoration, or to sell them to others in the hobby, who are the passionate bicycle curators who's task is to preserve these icons of American history(And have alot of fun playing too !!). My recommendation to you is to saturate yourself in the knowledge of these bikes by picking up some of the books offered here in this site as well as your local book stores.
Now as far as getting parts unstuck, I too would be wary of using gasoline. I have had great success using a penetrating oil and be patient for awhile and try remove parts with care. All bike parts have value, especially to the guy or gal who needs it. Look on ebay.com to check the more recent sales/interest in various parts. Don't forget to check items previously listed too. It is too difficult to give an opinion on the stingray, because what may be super rusted to you, may be a restoration job worth venturing for someone else. Go to the musclebike section and give a clear description. Ask to see if anyones interested in it. Afterall you only paid a buck for it.

Best of luck, Robert

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by sam on 2/19/2001 at 11:37:25 PM
Sounds like you can retire and just list stuff on ebay for the rest of your life!---sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by rd on 2/20/2001 at 8:05:43 AM
I would be wary of sandblasting, I haven't had good results unless you powder it will leave pits.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by AllAntiques on 2/20/2001 at 11:44:41 AM
Sandblasting can warp thin sheet metal like fenders and tanks. Beware!

   Amonia loosens up rusted parts posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 2/21/2001 at 3:09:34 PM
Amonia. squirt amonia on the rusted parts and let it soak in. Or pour it on like I do. Don't breathe it in. This works on rusted parts.

   RE:Amonia loosens up rusted parts posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 2/21/2001 at 3:12:45 PM
Please e-mail me at ChristopherRobin@starmail.com I will take you under my wing and offer suggestions on how to go about all this. I've been there in this type situation before.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by aaron on 2/27/2001 at 9:31:39 PM
thanks for all the help! i will try to use the ammonia on the rusted parts and use a special metal sand paper on the frames and rusty parts. Unfortunately as of now i do not have an e- mail adress that i actually use. another question i have come across is doese any one know of a mens ballooner called a western flyer that seem to have european style pedal cranks and sprockets? i also want to some how remove the pedal crank for a tune up- how would i best go about doing this? thanks again!

AGE / VALUE:   Viking posted by: chip on 2/19/2001 at 8:00:13 PM
I recently found a coast to coast Viking 26" balloon tire bike . Can anyone give me any info or tell me were I can find any info about it.Like when they were made and what they might be worth. Thanks,Chip

WANTED:    NOS twinn seiss headlites w/ battery can posted by: Robert on 2/19/2001 at 7:54:43 PM
I saw these on ebay tonite, and am trying to figure out what type of prewar bike they would look good on as well as be correct for. Any ideas out there ??? B10E Motobike ???
Item # 560300339

FOR SALE:   Chrome sears spaceliner posted by: Chip on 2/19/2001 at 7:45:58 PM
I have a original sears 24" chrome spaceliner in excellent condition.
It has the tank and lite ,it has the springer front end.Asking 150+shipping email me for pictures.

MISC:   Some general notes..... posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 2/19/2001 at 8:01:23 AM

1) We're working on a new section of our web site which will show step-by-step restorations and refurbs of various old bicycles. The first bicycle we're taking the time to document is the refurb of a 1930s Columbia-built Sterling. It's a sweet old ballooner and it needs help, but does not require a full restoration. We will keep all documented restoration and refurb projects on our site and plan to build up a good base of restoration photos, procedures and information as time goes on.

2) We've got a big update to our 'Bicycles and Parts For Sale' page coming soon. We've bought more Brit and American Musclebike, Ballooner and Roadster parts and are in the process of taking pictures and writing descriptions.

3) We've had a number of complaints about the inappropriate banter and anonymous backbiting that seems to be seeping into our site's Discussion Areas. Some people feel it is the result of the closing of the Schwinn.com forums. We will remove those postings as we find them and will record the IP information associated with each message. We've had several offers from internet security geeks who would love to "triangulate" the IP information, identify the posters, and submit them for prosecution under the new "DOS" (Denial Of Service) laws. I personal believe you all can police yourselves and those measures are not necessary. We will never implement any type of password/login system, and we will always allow people to post messages and questions without requiring a valid email address or anything else. I strongly believe 99 percent of the readers and writers here enjoy the free flowing exchange of information and are not too concerned when a discussion goes slightly off topic. In the end, we're all 2-wheeled enthusiasts with a broad range of other interests, too. Just try to keep the language at a 'PG-rated' level, keep it vintage bicycle related, and don't cowardly bash someone without using your true email address.

And in the meantime, please let us know when you see those inappropriate postings, and please bear with us while those people find somewhere else to get their kicks.

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles

   RE:MISC:   Some general notes..... posted by JimW. (BikeRod&Kustom) on 2/19/2001 at 11:44:34 AM
Showing restoration documentation is a great idea, Vin. I'm
really looking forward to seeing the first one. Maybe it'll lead to all of us paying a little more attention to keeping a loaded camera handy for that sort of purpose.

AGE / VALUE:   1953? Columbia Bicycle 3 Star Delux posted by: deejay on 2/17/2001 at 8:30:12 PM
Help!! I have a Columbia bicycle serial # V286812. Can anyone out there tell me the vintage?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1953? Columbia Bicycle 3 Star Delux posted by rd on 2/18/2001 at 3:13:44 PM
My columbia list does not include a V. 1963 are N's

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1953? Columbia Bicycle 3 Star Delux posted by deejay on 2/19/2001 at 11:55:26 AM
The serial # "v" 286812 is located on the rear part of the frame next to the wheel nut,left side. Is this where most Columbia serial numbers are located?

WANTED:   1933-35 Schwinn b10 fender braces posted by: Robert on 2/17/2001 at 2:52:23 PM
Does anyone have a nice pair of these for sale? If not, how about some close up pic's that I can bring with me to the swapmeets, so I make sure to get the correct ones. Thanks.


MISC:   Ann Arbor Bike show and swap posted by: Steve on 2/16/2001 at 1:05:37 PM
The Ann Arbor/Saline Classic Bicycle Show and Swap meet has an official web domain now! Check out last years page (with plenty of great photos), at www.ann-arbor-bicycleshow.com

Look for an updated site for this years event soon!

   RE:MISC:   Ann Arbor Bike show and swap posted by ChristopherRobin on 2/16/2001 at 1:38:11 PM
Last Sunday in April and the lunch wagon there serves excellent broasted chicken! Washtenaw farm council grounds in Ann Arbor, Michigan Check out the web site!

BALLOON:   DECALS FOR GIRLS MONARK posted by: david on 2/15/2001 at 6:19:13 AM
Any one know where to get decals for a girls monark.
i can get by with just the tanks,i want the vinyl not the water transfer thanks!!!!!
will take a whole set for one bike and need the tank for another to repair the mess i made with a water transfer

   RE:BALLOON:   DECALS FOR GIRLS MONARK posted by rd on 2/17/2001 at 3:48:43 PM
have you tried memory lane?

   RE:BALLOON:   DECALS FOR GIRLS MONARK posted by david on 2/19/2001 at 3:53:59 PM
yes i tried them and maple island,i had one very nice reader come up with me one set and i could still use another.
there may be a few bad apples on this site but my experience has ben there are a whole bunch of nice "folks"

MISC:   Memo From The Editor: New Issue of BikeRod&Kustom posted by: JimW. on 2/14/2001 at 7:42:42 PM
Volume 2'Issue 4 may be found at the usual location: http://bikerodnkustom.homestead.com

It contains an interview by Rif Addams, with Larry Louterback, builder of hyper-powered motorized bikes.
Legal motorbikes are restricted as to power and speed capabilities, which may be a good thing, as most bikes tend to disintegrate at sustained speeds over 30 mph. The Outlaw Mr. Louterback, whose creations can cruise at 50mph, has taught himself all the tricks of making bikes handle and hold up well within that performance envelope. He shares his knowledge with Rif, and BR&K’s readership. Don’t try this at home,
kids; but if you do, be sure that you (or your surviving loved ones) send us pictures.

We review yet another carbon-fiber bike D.I.Y. plan-set; this one for an ultra-light off-road bike by Canadian Richard Langlois. This is an excellent way of getting acquainted with carbon fiber bike building, and can lead to applying the knowledge gained to the making of Kool Kustom Karbon Bikes.

Steve Nurse is an Australian Engineer who has some innovative bike ideas. He’s come up with a system called “CHAMELEON” which could revolutionize community bike programs. By combining modular sections, it’s possible to put together a single-rider bike, a tandem bike, a bike truck, and lots of other useful and fun HPVs. We show his designs in this issue’s Design Lab.

Editing a webzine can really cut into other leisure-time activities, like Bike Kustomizing, for example. The
Editor of this ‘zine, having zero time to actually build bikes, has lately confined his energy to his sketchbook. He has scraped some of his Photoshop sketches together for a pictorial feature.

Just in time for your late-Valentine gift needs, comes our free download “Bad Girls Ride Bad Bikes” T-shirt art by Gary Hallgren. Not only can you give the love of your life a snazzy (if tardy) gift, but you can brag that you made it yourself, with your own little ink-jet printer. (Maybe you can get her to iron it on the shirt herself.)

Lastly, but certainly not leastly, we have a flock of new creations in our Gallery. These are by Larry Lujan,
Janos, Rydjor Bikes, Rif Addams, Brandon Flannery, and INSIGNIA of Australia.

Fond regards until our next encounter,
Jim Wilson
The Usual Suspect

   RE:MISC:   Memo From The Editor: New Issue of BikeRod&Kustom posted by Joel on 2/16/2001 at 11:03:08 AM
Another great issue ! Gotta love that wooden dragon bike.

AGE / VALUE:   The Wonderful Schwinn Racer posted by: DaveR. on 2/14/2001 at 6:25:20 PM
Hi All!
Having taken up collecting Schwinn Racers. ( In this man's opinion, one of the most solid, no-nonsense bicycle designs ever!)I have come up with two questions:
1 Does the Racer use the same frame as the Varsity? I cannot see or measure any difference.
2 Did Schwinn ever offer the Racer with a two speed coaster brake hub?
Thanks for any info, and may these bikes always be low priced !!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Wonderful Schwinn Racer posted by sam on 2/14/2001 at 7:46:53 PM
Taken from the fair trade prices for schwinn bicycles--effective 1956...men's w3 *racer promotional model with 3-speed gears,hand brakes(2-speed optional)*$56.95 the * means these were not fair traded , the price was the suggested price---sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Wonderful Schwinn Racer posted by Kevin C. on 2/15/2001 at 4:59:04 AM
I'm glad to see that someone else appreciates the unappreciated Schwinn Racer. I got one in about 1970 and rode it all through high school and college. It's now in my basement, just as solid and straight as ever.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Wonderful Schwinn Racer posted by DaveR on 2/15/2001 at 11:24:08 AM
Thanks for the information gentlemen!
I had long believed that I was the only one with a love for the Racer.
An indestructable Schwinn frame, mated to the Sturmey-Archer 3 speed hub.... what's not to like?
Besides, if I may be so bold... side by side with my Raleighs, the Schwinn frame, with it's smoothly filleted welds, just strikes me as being more elegantly proportioned... ( honest! take a good unbiased look at one sometime!)
Anyhow, SHHHHHHHH!! no more loose talk about these ridiculously undervalued bikes out there... everyone will want one, and I won't find them for $15 - $35 dollars at garage sales anymore!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Wonderful Schwinn Racer posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 2/16/2001 at 1:41:16 PM
There is a Harvest Gold one that calls to me every time I visit this one place and I tell it "no" and it sits there looking at me as I pull out drawers and pick out every one Mafac rear brake cable hanger and Schwinn cones.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Wonderful Schwinn Racer posted by DaveR on 2/17/2001 at 4:08:40 PM
Harvest Gold?... nice! I don't have one of those yet.
Why not give it a good home? It's cheep to feed!

BALLOON:   HELP! re: retro PEE-WEE megaphone (?) posted by: Bonnie on 2/14/2001 at 4:11:34 PM
Remember "Pee-Wee's Big Adventure" bike? He had a plastic megaphone/microphone/sound effects handlebar-mounted speaker
with a tacky lion's/tiger's head on front. (!) Do these things actually exist? Maybe it was a prop dept. invention - anyone ever seen one? THANKS! -

   RE:BALLOON:   HELP! re: retro PEE-WEE megaphone (?) posted by jimmy on 2/14/2001 at 9:00:07 PM
the tiger head was glued on i've seen one at my local bike shop it is a squeeze horn i'm building the infamous x-1 now the saddle bags are old motorcycle saddle racks good luck and long live the pee wee!!!!

   RE:BALLOON:   HELP! re: retro PEE-WEE megaphone (?) posted by jimmy on 2/14/2001 at 9:00:44 PM
the tiger head was glued on i've seen one at my local bike shop it is a squeeze horn i'm building the infamous x-1 now the saddle bags are old motorcycle saddle racks good luck and long live the pee wee!!!!

   RE:BALLOON:   HELP! re: retro PEE-WEE megaphone (?) posted by jimmy on 2/14/2001 at 9:00:48 PM
the tiger head was glued on i've seen one at my local bike shop it is a squeeze horn i'm building the infamous x-1 now the saddle bags are old motorcycle saddle racks good luck and long live the pee wee!!!!

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   HELP! re: retro PEE-WEE megaphone (?) posted by todjob on 2/14/2001 at 9:41:36 PM
OK OK OK jimmy you explained it geeeezzzz dont get so excited,heay your not going to ride that x-1 around and wear your batman hood yelling "I know what YOU are but what am I? ha ha,ha ha,ha ha" again are you?? you really embarresed your son at school that day jimmy,shame on you for insulting 5th graders. LOL

   RE:BALLOON:   HELP! re: retro PEE-WEE megaphone (?) posted by Jim on 2/16/2001 at 7:02:56 PM
Ebay has a vintage item simular but not exactly the same item as Pee Wees. I wouldn't be suprized if Pee-Wees item represents this actual item. Its a tiger that makes a GRRRR noise that mounts on the handlebar. 60s I beleive.

WANTED:   Roadmaster Horn Button posted by: Randy on 2/13/2001 at 2:35:46 PM
I'm looking for a horn for any Roadmaster tank. It doesn't even have to work, as long as the button itself looks good. Thanks.