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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   Dating a Hawthorne posted by: John B. on 7/18/2001 at 11:17:38 AM
I have a ladies 26" bike that I have finally been able to identify as a Hawthorn by using pictures in the "Evolution" books. I'd like to try to date it reasonably close. i've been told the serial number means nothing but I found numbers on the crank. One side says A8, the other side 35H. do these numbers mean anything? I have suspected the bike is somewhere in the '50s or early '60s. Any help is appreciated. Anybody got a head badge for this one? Mine was taken off when someone repainted the bike.

AGE / VALUE:   PLEASE POST PICS!!! if looking for info on a bike posted by: zipster on 7/18/2001 at 11:22:34 AM
there are tons of names of bikes and serial numbers are of really no help in identifying a bike - POSTING PICTURES TO THE WEB is your best bet!!!!!!!!!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   PLEASE POST PICS!!! if looking for info on a bike posted by pat on 7/18/2001 at 6:04:35 PM
where and how would i post my picture?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   PLEASE POST PICS!!! if looking for info on a bike posted by Cal on 7/19/2001 at 5:34:42 AM
In the Site Navigation box near the top of this page click on 'ADD a picture to the Vintage Bicycle Picture Database'

AGE / VALUE:   Original Standard one last try posted by: Neil Hever on 7/17/2001 at 11:49:49 AM
One last try so I don't wear out my welcome! I'm still looking for any links or information on the "Original Standard" mentioned in a previous post. I cannot find a single source of information on the German bike manufacturer Standard and would appreciate any help. The only tidbit I've gleaned is the fact that the Komet "Super" hub was made in the 50's/early 60's. I do have some photos which can be j-pegged on request. Thanks, Neil Hever

   Can't help you, but.. posted by jj on 7/18/2001 at 7:09:48 AM
I can't help you, but just wanted to say you don't have to worry about wearing out your welcome. I've been coming to this site for about 5 years and it's a great community and a great resource.

If you don't get an answer, try again in a couple weeks.

   RE:Can't help you, but.. posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 7/18/2001 at 7:44:17 AM
Don't give up, stay with us! This will take some time, we have a good group here something will turn up. Put this on the back burner for awhile.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Original Standard one last try posted by sam on 7/18/2001 at 6:01:57 PM
Does your bike have a star in the front bracket?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Original Standard one last try posted by Clarence on 7/24/2001 at 6:54:22 PM
Hi, I have just picked up a 20" Standard bicycle.I to am looking for info about
it.If anyone has any information about them I would appreciate it, if they could pass it
along to me.Things like when they were built,who made them and what are they
are worth.Or if anyone is looking for one.Thanks,Clarence

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   huffy serial numbers posted by: jeff on 7/16/2001 at 7:18:57 PM
can anyone tell me the age of a huffy silver king with the serial number 7h404509 thanks in advance

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   huffy serial numbers posted by Chris on 7/18/2001 at 7:17:43 AM
If the frame has a large top tube, with two smaller tubes below the tank, then the bike is most likely a 1957. If the two smaller tubes are above the tank, and the large tube below it, then the the bike is most likely a 1967 (because Huffy introduced this type of frame in 1964).

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   huffy serial numbers posted by jeff on 7/18/2001 at 8:41:12 AM
thanks Chris must be a 67

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Serial Numbers posted by: Larry on 7/16/2001 at 12:41:23 PM
The Schwinn Serial Numbers site has conflicting information since the first entry for 1950 is G003167-G294890 which could also be a 1961 serial number. Is there an error here?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Serial Numbers posted by Cal on 7/17/2001 at 6:22:13 AM
I've seen that descrepancy on all Schwinn charts I've seen, including the ones sold on EBAY.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Serial Numbers posted by Tom Findley on 7/17/2001 at 6:37:50 AM
A 1950 bike would have the s/n under the crank. A 1961 model would have the s/n on the left rear dropout.

AGE / VALUE:   Rugby Mfg Co., St. Louis, USA posted by: pat on 7/16/2001 at 12:05:53 PM
I have a 60+ yr old rugby mens bike and can't find any info on it. It is original, ridable, but needs work. The paint is faded and there is some rust. Any suggestions as to value or where I can get the scoop on a bike like this?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rugby Mfg Co., St. Louis, USA posted by pat on 7/19/2001 at 4:15:31 PM
i posted a pic under 30-40 rugby bike, i am still looking for info

FOR SALE:   HIAWATHA TANK posted by: STEVEN on 7/16/2001 at 12:01:53 PM

BALLOON:   Identification posted by: Larry on 7/15/2001 at 8:34:18 PM
I recently aquired a girls Schwinn 26" balloon tire bicycle,serial # G126867 which I believe makes it 1950 vintage.It doesn't have any name on the chainguard but has a Delta rocket ray headlight and New Departure rear brake,a tank with a horn,a back rack,two-tone paintjob with matching pin-striped rims and Schwinn Typhoon tires.Can anyone help identify the model?

   RE:BALLOON:   Identification posted by Gary M on 7/15/2001 at 9:34:01 PM
are you sure of the serial number? all the 50s serial numbers are 5 digit. i see your number as july of 1961

   RE:BALLOON:   Identification posted by Doug on 7/16/2001 at 4:25:25 PM
I just bought a 55 hornet girls schwinn and it sounds like the same bike has everything mine does the year I cant tell you as I think the schwinn serial # system can be a bit confusing myself; I usually let one of the folks on here who are good at it help with identifiing it; mine is in fair shape maybe a 7 on the scale all origional and I recently purchased it for 260.00 and I am happy with the deal.good luck to you.

AGE / VALUE:   huffy silver king posted by: jeff on 7/15/2001 at 12:24:08 PM
does anyone have any info on the huffy silverking like when they were made what they might be worth are they rare or not thanks much

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy silver king posted by sam on 7/15/2001 at 7:49:30 PM
True alum.silverkings were owned by Monark,and monark was bought by huffman.since huffy owned the name silverkings I think they used it on an all chrome bike to compeat with the spaceliner.What does yours look like?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy silver king posted by jeff on 7/15/2001 at 8:22:33 PM
THE BIKE i have is chrome has candy red tank and chaingaurd has a candy red rack on back 26x1.75 tri line tires also has a chrome and red plastic plane on the front fender any info would be nice thanks again

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy silver king posted by Chris on 7/16/2001 at 6:44:37 AM
I would guess that its from the early to mid-1960's. What is the first digit of the serial number (should be followed by a letter, usually H or C)?

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Springer Question for Middleweight posted by: Paul on 7/14/2001 at 8:32:14 AM
I have a schwinn springer #54790 that I would like to attach to a schwinn middleweight. The box states for 26" baloon models. Will this fit my middle weight and how do you attach the fender to the springer. Perhaps I am missing a part. thanks Paul

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Springer Question for Middleweight posted by A friend on 7/14/2001 at 11:13:06 AM
Hi Paul, When you ask for advice like that, well we know that the springer you have belongs with a balloon tire bike. So why would you want a light weight tire floating around in such a large area of a fork? Schwinn did there engineering around the balloon tire not the middle weight. If I'm wrong, someone will correct me, I'm sure.

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Springer Question for Middleweight posted by Rif on 7/15/2001 at 9:51:05 AM
I did this with an old Hawthorne/roadmaster type springer on my 63 Typhoon mid weight... It works out okay. And actually doesn't look too bad. I don't know about the schwinn style springer, but it should do alright as well.
I could be wrong (I often am) *S*
I did however, step up to a 1.95 (Ithink) tire. You can still fit it on the rear with the fender, but it also fills out a little in the front so it it appears to fill the space. I used slick type mountain tires, they look bald with a bit of tread on the outside edges. Man these baby's really stick to the pavement. Its phenomenal how well they perform...
Take care,

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Springer Question for Middleweight posted by sam on 7/15/2001 at 7:27:36 PM
A Friend is right,a middle weight tire would look wrong.Schwinn did make M/W springers.The head where the pivot bolt goes is thinner,this moves the fork arms closer together.

BALLOON:   Prewar LaSalle? posted by: Gary on 7/13/2001 at 9:21:52 PM
Any info on this bike and what is missing? http://your-hot.com/vintagebicycles/LaSalle.html I know the tires and basket are not original, but what about the rest of the bike?

   RE:BALLOON:   Prewar LaSalle? posted by MNSmith on 7/15/2001 at 1:30:36 AM
The bike looks good! I'd say the only thing you are missing is a tank. Usually a deluxe bike like that would have one.

BALLOON:   identification posted by: AJ on 7/13/2001 at 9:22:04 AM
need info on a hawthorne im restoring,are there any hawthorne books?it has rear drop out with a center stand on the backaxle,model d hub,crome chainguard with jewels,long fancy seat like on a zep but also has jewels on it,has torrington 8 pedals on it,strut front with a reflector oh each side of fork by bottom bearing,wards howthorne on head badge,painted rims with pinstrips,serial no on crank housing appears to be H105421 has an x on top of te serial number the o could be a u,not a good stamp,the frame and fenders and chainguard look identical to the zep on page76 of volume 2 evolution book,the bottom of the fender braces are rivited together like they are on the zep,would like to find some accsessories for this bike--tank lights carrier thanks AJ

   RE:BALLOON:   identification posted by Joel on 7/13/2001 at 10:27:42 AM
THere is a book: Collectable Elgin,JC Higgins,and Hawthorne Bicycles. Has catalog pictures from sears and wards catalogs.

BALLOON:   What is it posted by: Gary Denton on 7/13/2001 at 6:53:12 AM
I was stripping spray paint from what I thought was a 1956 Schwinn straitbar when I found a label "Indian Bicycle and Motor Co." The serial # is V05XXX. It has all the attributes of a 50's schwinn straitbar except it does not have an attached kickstand and the holes for the name badge are farther apart than normal. Did schwinn make Indians?

   RE:BALLOON:   What is it posted by sam on 7/15/2001 at 7:38:02 PM
oldroads gave the history of an Indian they had for sale a while back--The Indian motorcycle Co. was owned by Phillips bicycle of England.The Indians that show up on Ebay are the English Phillips.But Indian also sold a bike made in Germany back in the 30s.I think (but might be wrong)that one of those is on the Ohio Bike Club web page.That is the two I know they sold.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   What is it posted by jj on 7/16/2001 at 6:34:35 AM
The pre-Phillips Indians were made in the USA. If you've got a ballooner Indian you've got a rare and valuable bicycle.

AGE / VALUE:   Murry Meteor Flite posted by: Carrie on 7/12/2001 at 12:52:52 PM
I just picked up this lady's Murry Meteor Flite bike and my husband and I are trying to restore it. It has 26x1.75 tires, the light works but one of the lenses is cracked (I'd like to replace that). Otherwise it's all still original including the chain; looks good and rides great! I'd like to know what it's worth (we paid $35) - it really doesn't matter because I just want to ride it! I'd appreciate any info, the serial number? we found read 41x37 613937. Thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murry Meteor Flite posted by Mike Stone on 7/17/2001 at 7:53:35 AM
Nice find, Carrie.

There is a growing interest in the spage-age bike like the Murray made Meteor Flite you recently purchases. It is certainly worth $35.00 especially if it has a working light and at least partial lens.

Your bike is a later version of the Meteor flite. Earlier versions have tanks, but do not have the lights. I guess yours is from about 1964.

Values for girl's bikes are not as good as for boys bikes. Probably because it is big boys (formerly known as little boys) who are doing the collecting. Depending on condition, you could probably sell it for between $50.00 to $120.00.

Regrease all the bearings (crank, rear + front wheel hubs, head/fork bearings) and you will have an attractive and comfortable rider that will get a lot of admiration.

Mike Stone

AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn corvette posted by: Ken on 7/10/2001 at 8:51:22 AM
A friend of mine wants me to clean up his corvette. The corvette cars came out in 53',so I'm thinkin that the schwinn corvette,probably came out the year after.Does anyone out there know what the first corvette year was? The three speed hub needs some work.I would like to look at an exploded veiw before I take it apart.
I have an issue with a cick back 2 speed, I got this 69' schwinn three wheeler,a nice bike,so I took the hubs apart to grease them and put the front and the free wheeling back one together,than got side tracked and moved.I took the kick back 2 speed apart,still have all the parts but can't seem to make it work. Can anyone help me? Thanks for readin and thanks to all those fellow bike freaks that give me motivation and let me know I'm not crazy. Ken oldbikefreak@yahoo.com

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn corvette posted by Tom Findley on 7/11/2001 at 5:46:34 AM
Schwinn started selling the Corvette in 1954.
Sturmey-Archer Service Manual:


Bendix Automatic Hub Service Manual and Diagram:


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn corvette posted by Ken on 7/11/2001 at 8:51:39 AM
Thanks Tom,the info helps alot!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1954 schwinn corvette posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 7/12/2001 at 8:45:35 AM
The local bookstore has the books on the shelf. Schwinn Bicycles by Pridemore and Hurd and there are are others too.