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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

BALLOON:   Age/Value: Chicago Cycle Supply Co.-Liberty Model posted by: Chuck on 11/6/2002 at 3:33:45 PM
I am seeking info on the approximate age and value of a girls balloon tire bicycle I own made by the Chicago Cycle Supply Company. It is a Liberty model and the frame stem emblem includes an image of the Statue of Liberty. It has front and rear cable-operated hand brakes. It appears to be 99% complete, and is ivory-colored with blue accents and "gas tank". It is in fair to good condition and very restorable.

   RE:BALLOON:   Age/Value: Chicago Cycle Supply Co.-Liberty Model posted by Ken on 11/6/2002 at 7:30:40 PM
Chuck, the Liberty badge is a line, not a model, of Schwinn-built bikes of which Chicago Cycle Supply was the retailer. The hand brakes are interesting. Are they calipers, or drums? By balloon tire do you mean 26x2.125?
You may be able to use the Schwinn serial number chart here on Oldroads to find the bike's age, although if it's pre-1948 it's not as easy. Built-in kickstand (welded behind bottom bracket shell) indicates postwar. Use the picture database to find Schwinn models with similar features. Let us know what you learn.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Age/Value: Chicago Cycle Supply Co.-Liberty Model posted by Chris on 11/7/2002 at 1:23:11 AM
Take a look at all the bicycle books in the (new) bookstore
then the used bookstore too.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Age/Value: Chicago Cycle Supply Co.-Liberty Model posted by Chuck on 11/8/2002 at 2:16:34 AM
The handbrakes are drum, and made by Schwinn. Left handbrake operates the rear brake, right operates front. The tire size is 26X2.125. The kickstand is a bolt-on. Other features: Front fork is girder arrangement with near horizontal coil spring off handlebar stem. The fork spring has "AS" stamped on the coil framing. The front fork is lockable, and I discovered that there is a functional Yale lock key. Both fenders are full, with slight flairing at the rear ends. The front fender has a battery-operated light with switch located in the fender. The rear fender apparently is missing the trim pieces on both sides along the edge. The gas tank has the Liberty name on both sides. The tank includes a horn switch and noise "vents". The seat is a Mesinger B-Delux-4, has black leather covering, and has 3 coil springs for comfort. I looked thru the Schwinn serial number listings and I can't place the date of manufacture. The serial # is G98499. Any help with additional info would be appreciated.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Age/Value: Chicago Cycle Supply Co.-Liberty Model posted by MNSmith on 11/9/2002 at 7:23:36 AM
That rear fender is the giveaway. Holes for a fender skirt means that your bike is a prewar Schwinn. Sounds like an upper end model, like a Hollywood or something. 1941-1945 by the headlight description.


   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Age/Value: Chicago Cycle Supply Co.-Liberty Model posted by MNSmith on 11/9/2002 at 7:28:38 AM
That rear fender is the giveaway. Holes for a fender skirt means that your bike is a prewar Schwinn. Sounds like an upper end model, like a Hollywood or something. 1941-1945 by the headlight description.


AGE / VALUE:   HUFFY PROTOTYPE WHEELS??? posted by: Fred A on 11/5/2002 at 10:29:20 PM
I just picked up a boys cantilever ruby red Huffy from the late 60's/early 70's in almost MINT codition. Full painted fenders with white pinstripes, white seat & hand grips, chainguard with HUFFY on it. Never had a tank or rear rack.. The weird part? The wheels! The rims are a white plastic/rubber coating over a white steel rim. I pulled the tire back to verify this. Owner swears it came this way. (The rear hub is a Bendix red stripe). I have never seen this anywhere before on any bike. Anyone out there have any ideas? A prototype wheel that never made it to market?

Fred A

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn BF Goodrich Deluxe Hornet posted by: Dan on 11/4/2002 at 6:52:54 PM
I recently picked up this bike with a Schwinn/BF Goodrich headbadge. A couple of questions: The serial number on the left dropout is C27559, is this a 1957 model? Is the kickstand a bolt-on or built-in? On the Old Roads picture data base it shows 2 different style frames and 2 different style chainguards. I have a cantilever frame and chainguard with the round Schwinn decal. Were there several models of the Hornet? Thanks in advance.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn BF Goodrich Deluxe Hornet posted by MNSmith on 11/6/2002 at 8:07:03 AM
That serial number was used in 1952, 53, and 57. Tire size would be a deciding factor here. 26 x 2.125 will be 1952, 53. 26 x 1 3/4" will be 1957, most likely. Since you say yours is a middleweight ( 26 x 1 3/4" ), then I would say it was stamped between 04/23 to 04/30, 1957. Most BFG's I have seen have had bolt on kickstands.

There was only one model Hornet. However, there were many models of B.F. Goodrich. The first photo is a prewar DX. The second photo is a postwar Hornet. Both are BFG's. As you know, BFG's came as cantilever's and also girls models, Phantoms and Panthers.


   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn BF Goodrich Deluxe Hornet posted by Dan on 11/7/2002 at 2:34:15 AM
Thanks for the info. It does have 1 3/4 tires. It looks like the 1957 Deluxe Hornet shown on the FirstFlights website. Although mine needs a little work.

AGE / VALUE:   Overland Deluxe / D. P. Harris Mfg. Co posted by: Brian Newman on 11/2/2002 at 6:25:09 PM
I have an Overland Deluxe which I believe was made by D. P. Harris Mfg. Co. I would like to know how I could determine the year of mfg and an approxamate value for this UNRESTORED bicycle. Badg states only "Overland" and "Made in America". Photos available on request.

WANTED:   seat restoration info posted by: karl on 10/31/2002 at 3:56:31 AM
hello, i am looking for the name and contact info for someone to restore balloon tire bike seats, thanks

   RE:WANTED:   seat restoration info posted by sam on 11/1/2002 at 1:24:05 AM
Contact Dave at http://www.nostalgic.net/ Or if you want to try the job yourself we'll walk you through the process.If you have a fairly common bike seat they can be recovered in a do-it-yourself job with little experence.Now if you got a monark tool box seat or an airflow or something like that please do talk to the experts!----sam

   RE:WANTED:   seat restoration info posted by MNSmith on 11/2/2002 at 2:42:42 AM
You could go right to Dave's source. The premeire west coast saddle restorer, Bob Usasi at bobcycles@aol.com

If you would like to try your own hand at doing it, I have a little tutorial in my Repair and Restoration section of my web site. Link below.


   RE:WANTED:   seat restoration info posted by karl on 11/3/2002 at 1:45:11 AM
Thanks for the info!

BALLOON:   Information posted by: Kevin Boughton on 10/30/2002 at 6:44:24 PM
Hi There

I have been given a vintage balloon tire bike and I am in the process of starting resortation. Eventhough this will be my first bike that I have restored, I have been restoring petroleum products for the past several years. The number that is on this bike is B12062 and I have traced that to be a 1937 Columbia; is this information accurate? Also, could someone please put me in touch with a reproduction distributor for bicycle parts. Are there any in Canada? If anyone else has any other information that would be usefull; I would appreciate the advise.

Thanks Kevin

   RE:BALLOON:   Information posted by Joel on 10/31/2002 at 7:54:39 PM
Post a picture or compare to other bikes for a positive ID.

Memory Lane and Maple Island Sales have repop Columbia parts but not for all models.

WANTED:   Serial numbers for Murray bikes posted by: John Metz on 10/30/2002 at 1:11:15 PM
I'm endeavering to find a serial nomber chart for Murray bikes.
I'm pretty sure none exist on the WEB. I'm contacting Murray Inc to this end. If anyone can be of any asistance please contact me. I'd like to get a chart for Murrays on the WEB!

   RE:WANTED:   Serial numbers for Murray bikes posted by Chris on 10/30/2002 at 4:31:24 PM
Hey! I like you, you are ok in my book! You are wanting to fill in the gaps and help out Murry bike folks!
Best of luck to you.

WANTED:   Huffy Silver Jet posted by: Kris on 10/30/2002 at 4:58:31 AM
Anyone out there have a '61 Huffy "Silver Jet", green girls frame, they would like to sell? I am looking for one to buy, "Ready to Ride", good to excellent condition.
Thank you!

   RE:WANTED:   Huffy Silver Jet posted by Jerry on 11/3/2002 at 3:39:17 AM
I have a restored girls Huffy that is about that vintage. It is complete with the original saddle and the light that I have had working. Let me know if you would like a photo.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Huffy Silver Jet posted by Kris on 11/10/2002 at 4:30:35 PM
YesYesYes, I sure would like to see the photos! Would you send them email or snailmail? What can I do to help? I appreicate your contacting me. Thank you again - Kris

PS- You may receive two other "like" replies from me as I am new at this site and am "all thumbs". Sorry. :)

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Huffy Silver Jet posted by: Kris on 10/30/2002 at 4:58:31 AM
Anyone out there have a '61 Huffy "Silver Jet", green girls frame, they would like to sell? I am looking for one to buy, "Ready to Ride", good to excellent condition.
Thank you!

WANTED:   skirt guard posted by: Brian on 10/30/2002 at 4:10:25 AM
Wanted to buy: a set of skirt guards that will fit or can be adapted to an early 40's ladies 26 inch balloon Roadmaster.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Skip tooth posted by: DJS on 10/29/2002 at 2:01:58 AM
Anyone ever heard of a Schwinn Skiptooth? I was told it was made around during WWII Its not in the greatest condition.
can anyone give me Info on this? My E-mail is
Thank you
Doug Simmonds

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Skip tooth posted by JC on 10/29/2002 at 12:44:13 PM
"skiptooth" refers to the type of chain. It is not a Schwinn model. A skiptooth or "inch pitch" chain has links that are not even, and the sprockets are really cool because it looks like they are missing teeth.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Skip tooth posted by ken on 10/29/2002 at 9:07:45 PM
WWII interrupted Schwinn production, so it should be either pre- or post. As a rule of thumb, assume if the Schwinn in question has a bolt-on rather than built-in kickstand it is prewar.

AGE / VALUE:   western auto red rocket posted by: sonny on 10/28/2002 at 3:14:03 PM
I am looking for parts for an western auto 26" mens red rocket.
such as: rear fender and tires.
you can reach me at the above work e-mail or at home on angelsamongusgje@yahoo.com

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   western auto red rocket posted by ak on 11/13/2002 at 5:31:37 AM
a monark rocket?

AGE / VALUE:   What is it ? posted by: Tim on 10/28/2002 at 2:17:56 PM
I just picked up a Schwinn m/w ser#c38638 very odd I have about 25 bikes now,but none like this. Whwre it says Schwinn on the top bar it`s wrote in very fancy script also the "darts" on the fork go all the way down to the axle and it has a very odd looking Bendix brake any help??
Also I have a Mead Ranger girls bike Ser#H96280 I believe to be pre war I`m looking for the proper paint scheme and any other info on this bike.
Thank you Tim

AGE / VALUE:   Zenith mens bike posted by: robert on 10/28/2002 at 7:07:44 AM
hello, i have a very nice shape Zenith mens single speed bike. i want to eventually sell it , but i need some info on it. it has 28" wheels. the rear hub is a Komet super coaster brake. the stem and handlebar are built into one peice, so the bars are not adjustable. it was made in Germany. it is blue in color and al decals are intact. it has the original leather tool pouch with tools. has the original tire pump. i could go on, but basically, the only thing that might have been changed, is the tires. but they are not new tires, so it was quite some time ago. the front brake is very interesting to me. it has not cable. it actually works as a lever/joint system. there is a rod that pushes a rubber brake pad down on the front tire that goes through the front fender. everything works. there is a generator that operates the headight and the tail light. this bike looks like it is from the 1890's or early 20's. if anyone knows anything about this bike, please email me. i only check this site once in awhile, so it would be appreciated. i will be happy to supply photos through email. if you think you might be interested in buying this bike i will take best offer out of the first three people. if there is not a reasonable offer made, i will list it on ebay. thankyou this bike really is neat!

FOR SALE:   1950 mens schwinn hornet basement find posted by: Larry Ricci on 10/27/2002 at 8:47:24 PM
just picked up a 1950's mens schwinn hornet tank bike in good restorable condition bike is missing the front sprocket and crank also missing front fender light.The bike is in good shape for its age $150