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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

BALLOON:   1939 RollFast, 26"Boys posted by: Stephen on 2/15/2002 at 12:23:46 PM
I would like to restore this bike and need leeds on where I
can get parts such as Tank, drop stand,chain guard, top for
seat,original grips,also an early advertisement (picture) of a red one.
Did all of these have painted rims or chrome? Any help appreciated.
THANKS, Stephen

   RE:BALLOON:   1939 RollFast, 26 posted by Joel on 2/15/2002 at 3:10:08 PM
Have a look through the photo database at Nostalgic.net .

   RE:BALLOON:   1939 RollFast, 26 posted by sam on 2/18/2002 at 2:55:28 AM
Also look at the Cleveland Welding bikes.And get catalogs from Memory Lane phone is 419-832-3040 and maple island 417-682-6656 and be sure to check here in there for sale parts.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   1939 RollFast, 26 posted by Zach on 2/19/2002 at 4:08:36 PM
Get out yer wallet!

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1962 SCHWINN posted by: ERIC on 2/15/2002 at 2:18:32 AM

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1962 SCHWINN posted by ERIC on 2/15/2002 at 2:31:18 AM
SERIAL # J243619

AGE / VALUE:   BI-MOTOR EQUIPMENT Co Bicycle posted by: Michael on 2/12/2002 at 10:12:15 AM
Please help!

Looking for A N Y info on a bicycle mnufactured by a company named
Model.... Black Diamond
State... Boston Mass.
Serial #H33129
Dark blue/Light blue two tone white pinstripe.
Chroe carrier 26 inch wheels
unfortunatly a womans bike but a really cool one anyway .


The Re-Cycler Bicycle Junk Yard and parts...

WANTED:   PANTHER GREEN CARRIER & LIGHT posted by: Ric on 2/12/2002 at 3:02:26 AM
Need original painted dark green color rear carrier and rockey ray fender light for a 1952 Panther. Want it in better than average condition. Also need a tank horn unit.
1958 Jaguar Blue, average condition.

MISC:   Dating Schwinn tires posted by: Steve on 2/11/2002 at 11:36:00 PM
Does anyone know how to read the date codes on
Schwinn tires?

AGE / VALUE:   BI-MOTOR EQUIPMENT COMPANY BIKE posted by: Michael on 2/10/2002 at 8:33:21 AM
need A N Y info on a bike I just got. It has a 26x 2.125 tires 26 in wheels. One inch pitch chain. Fat fenders chrome rear carrier. fender mounted headlight as well. The headbadge reads as such.....
The headbadge is brass as well. I have the serial # as well
I have L O T S and L O T S of pics of this bike so I can produce any for any questions that may be asked.
Thanks lots

BALLOON:   N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by: Joe on 2/10/2002 at 7:48:35 AM
Does anyone know of a good source for new old stock or reproduction tires? Particularly 26x2.125 wide white walls.

   RE:BALLOON:   N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by Stacey on 2/10/2002 at 11:51:24 AM
Is this what you're looking for Joe?


With this info in hand, you should be able to get them from your LBS.

In the wind,

   RE:RE:BALLOON: N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by Joe on 2/10/2002 at 11:25:11 PM
Stacy,thanks for your reply, I had seen these at the LBA but I was hoping to maybe find a more original type of tread pattern. I had seen an older cruiser on display at another shop that had a set of Carlisle wide white walls, but this was
around five or six years ago. I am hoping maybe someone may still have some left? Also, the Cheng Shin 26x2.125 Cruiser tire looks much more narrow than the original tires of the same size?

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON: N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by Stacey on 2/11/2002 at 12:56:38 AM
You're welcome Joe. I salvaged a pair of Kenda 2.125" Wide Whites from a old Murray "Beach Cruiser" to use on my Rollfast Kustom Kruiser project. I checked their site and found no mention of current production.

   RE:BALLOON:   N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by sam on 2/11/2002 at 3:43:51 AM
Try www.lovelylowrider.com they carry a WW in the brick pattern----sam

   RE:BALLOON:   N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by Stephen on 2/11/2002 at 10:09:18 PM
Try this: http://www.lovelylowrider.com/target.asp
or check out the new Raleigh cruiser bikes they have cool tires too.

   RE:RE:BALLOON: N.O.S. or repro Tire Source? posted by Joe on 2/15/2002 at 8:59:03 AM
Thanks for the tip, the brick pattern tread looks much more
time period correct then some of the other current tires available.

BALLOON:   Admiral/Schwinn girls bike posted by: Mark Andeson on 2/10/2002 at 12:40:09 AM
I have an old girl's balloon tire bike with the name Admiral
/Arnold, Schwinn & Company on the name plate. Can anyone tell
me about the Admiral company that sold Schwinn bikes? The serial
number is B43788. According to the list on this site both
1952 & 1957 have serial numbers starting with B_ _ _ _ _ . Can anybody help me narrow it down?

   RE:BALLOON:   Admiral/Schwinn girls bike posted by sam on 2/11/2002 at 3:51:23 AM
Admiral was a badge used by Schwinn no a Company.Where is the serial number located ?they changed to the drop out in 1952,so if it's on the bottom bracket it's not a 57---sam

   RE:BALLOON:   Admiral/Schwinn girls bike posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 2/11/2002 at 5:18:45 PM
This is something that you will find some information about in the book about Schwinn bikes. Go to a library or bookstore and you will see the book.
Schwinn bicycles by Pridemore and Hurd

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Admiral/Schwinn girls bike posted by mark on 2/12/2002 at 2:53:18 AM
The serial # is on the rear drop out. According to the lists 52,56 &57 all had serial #s starting with B_ _ _ _ _ and all had the # in the same place.

BALLOON:   Can anyone identify my bike? posted by: Joe on 2/9/2002 at 8:36:24 AM
Twenty years ago I purchased an old ballon tire bike at a flea market with the intent to use it for a paper route.
It had a broken front hub but was otherwise in good shape.
I am not sure of the manufacturer of the bike since it is missing it's headbadge. I had been told that it may be made by Colson or Cleveland Welding. I had replaced the hub with a newer use piece years ago, but have never gone any further in fixing it up. I posted a picture of it at www.bikepics.s5.com
if anyone can help me positively I.D. this bike it would be greatly appreciated. I would then like to put it back as original as posible. Note, this was one of many bikes I had accumulated back as a kid for delivering newspapers, many of which I still have.

   RE:BALLOON:   Can anyone identify my bike? posted by Gordon on 2/9/2002 at 2:28:10 PM
Early Colson - the chain guard is a dead giveaway. Probably from the 30's, but that I'm not sure about.

   RE:BALLOON: Can anyone identify my bike? posted by Joe on 2/10/2002 at 5:54:44 AM
I have also posted a picture of the original front hub at:
if anyone knows where I might be able to find one of these please let me know. The original hub was made by Musselman and is made totally of alluminum with four fins around the middle.

   RE:RE:BALLOON: Can anyone identify my bike? posted by Joe on 2/10/2002 at 8:53:57 AM
Gordon, thanks for the response, the chain guard was what another source had also said determined it as a Colson.
However, I at this point am not 100% certain which parts are or could be original and which might have been changed?
Someone from Schwinn had told me years ago that the crankset was in their opinion "definitely Cleveland Welding" but couldn't be sure about the frame.

MISC:   Ann Arbor Swap Meet Vendor Form posted by: Steve on 2/8/2002 at 10:09:25 PM
If you are going to the Ann Arbor, Michigan show this year and want to be a vendor, we've included a sign up form on our web site for your convienence. Go to:

Click on the "VENDOR FORM AND FLYER" link. Follow the directions on the page.

See you in April!

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Flightliner-Spaceliner Fenders and bikes posted by: Steve on 2/8/2002 at 7:11:26 PM
Still looking for both fenders for a '63 Flightliner. Also i would be interested in buying both Flightliner and Spaceliner bikes for parts. Can someone steer me in the right direction on bike shows and auctions? Is there any thing to subscribe to that keeps up on this? Thanks

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Flightliner-Spaceliner Fenders and bikes posted by warren jones on 2/9/2002 at 1:51:21 PM
I have a keeper collection of about twenty bikes in desent shape from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. Two are the Spaceliners with the protruding headlight tanks, one chrome frame, one red frame. Two others are a 1959 Flightliner w/springer and a 1963 Flightliner I believe with the glass ruby headlight lense. I'm not looking to sell them, but who knows. Warren

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Flightliner-Spaceliner Fenders and bikes posted by Tom Findley on 2/11/2002 at 2:41:40 PM
Spaceliner parts appear on ebay once in a while. You may consider buying a girl's bike as a parts source. Some parts like the tank, headlight and taillight lenses, are only available by buying a whole bike.


FOR SALE:   lots and lots of old bikes!!!!! posted by: mike on 2/8/2002 at 2:40:17 PM
L O T S of bikes for sale some complete some for parts
1974 BSA "twenty" 3 speed all there all original except tires NOS 20x1 3/8
BSA 26 1 3/8 5 spped cruiser type bike
womens rollfast 26 inch beat up
dunalt mens 3 speed english 1967 beat up bent missing parts
dunalt mens 3 speed english 1968 same as above bike but cleaner shape
old kent lil girls banna seat 16 inch bike lots of rust all there
womans C H R O M E Fleetwing 26 1 3/8 in wheels 3 speed
sears 3 speed mens bike bad shape
sears 3 speed womans bike bad shape identical as above bike as far as type of stickers and paint
J.c higgins womans bike near M I N T 50's Missing one poke will fix N O T overhauled\
Macy's Cyclone Fat fender. Been painted and overhauled.
Macy's Cyclone narrow fenders beat but complete.
Can and WILL supply ALL pics of A N Y of the bikes in question. Have lots and lots of parts as well from new to old.


AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Hollywood posted by: Mark on 2/8/2002 at 9:22:30 AM
I'm trying to date this old Schwinn Hollywood that was donated to our local Re-Cycles bike co-op (where I volunteer). It's green, and has the original front fender, green sparkle grips, and chainguard, but is missing the rear fender, wheels/tires, and seat. I searched around your site (an amazing resource!) for info before asking, but can't make sense of the serial # with regards to your database. The number reads MD45521, and was found on the left rear dropout. Thanks for any info! Mark.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Hollywood posted by Stacey on 2/8/2002 at 11:00:19 AM
That was an easy one... it's 12/68. D=68, From "A" to "M" (Skipping "I") is 12.

In the wind,

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Hollywood posted by Mark on 2/8/2002 at 9:58:38 PM
Thanks Stacey! I was being a doofus and read the database info backwards. No wonder I was confused... Cheers, Mark.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Hollywood posted by Stacey on 2/9/2002 at 11:05:59 AM
You're very welcome, Mark. Sometimes the most simple things prove to be our greatest obstacles. Glad I could clear the way for you. :-)

In the wind,

BALLOON:   Schwinn Rims posted by: Vern on 2/3/2002 at 10:35:38 PM
Is there a chart somewhere that explains the difference between S-2, S-5, S-6, and S-7 rims. I'm learning slowly but the learning curve is sloooow. Thanks

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Rims posted by Charlie Harper on 2/4/2002 at 1:41:48 AM
Go to http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html
Sheldon Brown on tire sizing it should help

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Rims posted by Jym on 2/4/2002 at 9:55:28 PM
There's a trie and rim chart on this site under the General Resources section.

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Rims posted by Vern on 2/5/2002 at 1:16:32 AM
Thank you both!

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Rims posted by Robert on 2/8/2002 at 5:23:58 AM
Can't give much information on the others but I can give a quick rundown on the S-6 rim. Listed as a 26 x 1 3/8 corresponding to the older English EA-1 rim (listed as a 1 1/4") and tires are NOT interchangeable with the more common 26 x 1 3/8 English EA-3 rim found on almost all other bikes using that size tire. Sheldon's site gives the details.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by: Craig on 2/3/2002 at 5:18:54 AM
Just finished this restore... Could somebody please tell me if those are original pedals? Thank you!


   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Vern on 2/3/2002 at 10:47:48 PM
I have a 62 Speedster in nearly same condition (same color) My bike has same pedals with Schwinn cross on end caps. I may be wrong but yours should be stock. Good resto you have given me inspiration for mine!

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Stacey on 2/3/2002 at 11:24:52 PM
Sweet find Craig. Great resto job too!

In the wind,

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Craig on 2/4/2002 at 3:58:33 PM
Thanks for the nice feedback and info! Any tips for touching up the the paint? Is it considered taboo to touch-up old paint? I have a dent in the rear fender, too -- ideas to fix that? -Craig

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Stacey on 2/4/2002 at 6:46:47 PM
From what I've heard bantered about in here there are those which expouse a mortal sin for paint touch-up. They proclaim the Antiques Roadshow mentality of "It's been repaired!" Though I've also heard the same show state "It it were repaired...". So, to me it sounds like a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of thing. Me, I say "It's your bike, do as you will." If you can pull of an expert touch-up, and not have it look like little Johnny had to with a bottle of nail polish, then by all means go for it. A laquer based paint would be the thing, much easier to flow it smooth and polish it in. As far as your dented fender? I've never used one but I understand those "Paint-less Dent Removal Shops" do good work if not damaged too bad. Why not take your fender in, ask them?
Best of luck with whatever course you choose.

In the wind,

   RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by MNSmith on 2/5/2002 at 3:40:37 AM
Hey Craig, What part of the country are you in? There are various people around that have fender rolling machines. These machines will push out the dent and won't mar the paint.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Wings on 2/5/2002 at 6:51:52 AM
Your paint job looked good in the pictures! I thought you did a repaint. Black if I remember. Black is the easiest color to touch up in my experience. 'Go to an auto store and get a spray can of black lacquer -- make sure the brand of auto paint has the good spray nozzle -- they are better than any hardware store.
Tear a hole in a paper and spray through it to cover a small spot. It dries in minutes. Usually a coat of wax blends it in.

What I have recently used and is fantastic is the Turtle Wax Color system. This is wax with color in it -- red, blue, black -- I think they have 6 colors. I have used it on a blue and a red bike with outstanding results!!!! Sort of between a new paint job and a road show accepted job. I would try it.
Nice work on the chrome! I have a speedster but it needs a lot of help.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Craig on 2/6/2002 at 5:11:47 AM
I haven't touched the paint yet -- still deciding whether or not to leave the bike "authentic". Re the fender rolling machines, I'm in Philadelphia -- Any nearby that you know?

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by MNSmith on 2/8/2002 at 4:19:09 AM
Try this. I think he is back in your side of the country. My aging memory fails me!! http://www.thecabe.com/wwwboard/classicbikeforum/messages/10.html . Just copy and paste!

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Robert on 2/8/2002 at 5:10:26 AM
Nice bike and restoration. Wish my '76 looked so good.

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1966 Scwhinn Speedster posted by Stacey on 2/15/2002 at 12:46:21 PM
I happend to find this yesterday, Craig. Look for the fender rolling post. Not familiar with him, just a lead. Probably worth a look.


Good luck!