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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

BALLOON:   pedal-less tricycle c. 1925-1935 posted by: Liza on 3/6/2002 at 12:15:13 AM
I am trying to track down a circa 1925-1935 push tricycle (i.e. one without pedals). I am an educator with the National Park Service and want to use this item in a workshop that teaches teachers how to "read" material culture to find out about people. One of the sites I work for is the birthplace of John F. Kennedy (Brookline, MA). We have a picture of JFK on a push tricycle at about age 7 (1928) and also have stories from his mother that talk about the competition that he and his older brother exhibited with one another on bicycles.
I do not know much about vintage tricycles, but from what I can tell I am looking for somethng that is made largely from wood, has two rear and one front wheel, has no pedal, and relies on a youngster's feet for power. Does anyone have any idea where I might find a tricycle like this to buy or borrow for my upcoming teacher workshop? I am willing to pay for Federal Express shipment or, if within driving distance, drive and pick up the item myself.
Many thanks for any information.

   RE:BALLOON:   pedal-less tricycle c. 1925-1935 posted by sam on 3/6/2002 at 3:59:31 AM
Oddly enough they still make these.But the one you talk of would have had the cab tires ,got a photo of my Dad on one about the same time (late 20s)You might try Toys R Us for a modern one--sam

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   pedal-less tricycle c. 1925-1935 posted by Liza on 3/6/2002 at 3:02:52 PM

Thanks for your thoughts. Unfortunately, I am really trying to find an old tricycle because I'm teaching teachers how to "read" the item to uncover information about how it was made, what kind of construction, what materials, whether there is a patent number, how much use it received, etc. My goal is to help teachers learn how to read evidence to find out about an historic time, person, place or event.

I do appreciate your thoughts, though. The modern version may have some other application at a later date.

   RE:BALLOON:   pedal-less tricycle c. 1925-1935 posted by JimW. on 3/7/2002 at 7:31:42 PM
You should post your request on the Boneshaker, safety, hiwheel list here. Those guys are much more likely to have info and sourcing leads for what you need. I doubt they wander into this list much. Wooden trikes sort of fall into their area of interest.

FOR SALE:   Sacramento, CA, Bicycle Sale posted by: Ken Peterson on 3/4/2002 at 3:00:33 AM

In an attempt to deplete my inventory, I am going to sell individual bicycles at a very reasonable price. The bicycles are from the 40’s and 50’s and in average to good condition. Some have suspensions, tanks, carriers, bells and whistles. All are rideable. No pictures are available.

Balloon Tire Bicycles

Boy’s Elgin Twinbar 40, Boy’s Spiegel Airman, Boy’s Hiawatha, Boy’s Huffman, Monark Silver King; prewar Schwinns: Excelsior, Admiral, DX’s, etc.

Girl’s JC Higgins Colorflow, Schwinn Wisco, Schwinn Town & Country Tandem, Schwinn Superior track, etc.

If you have an interest in this Cash Only sale, it will take place in Sacramento for two weekends: March 10 & 11 & March 17 & 18. I can be contacted for information and directions by telephone or e-mail.

Thank you
Ken Peterson

   RE:FOR SALE:   Sacramento, CA, Bicycle Sale posted by Sam on 4/13/2002 at 4:50:36 AM
I am very interested in the Superior track have you sold it?

BALLOON:   47 Monark Super Deluxe parts needed posted by: Seany boy on 3/3/2002 at 12:40:30 AM
I'm working on a boys' 1947 Monark Super Deluxe and I need the following parts:

Springer fork


   RE:BALLOON:   47 Monark Super Deluxe parts needed posted by aaron on 3/5/2002 at 8:37:35 PM
i got one of those bikes too unfortunately i need all those parts too. my bike was all screwed up having only the tank, frame, headbadge, and handle bars original.

   RE:BALLOON: 47 Monark Super Deluxe parts needed posted by Joe on 3/7/2002 at 2:47:09 AM
I may have some of the springer parts. I got a 47 also but I put some newer parts on it. I am putting on a train light the other for the 47 is expensive$$$ I am currently in process of making reproductions of the trainlight and the rear reflector housing. My bike is not orginal but I like what I have done with it. Check it out on my site, look in the members pages for my name (joe) to see it. www.geocities.com/jjegg63

AGE / VALUE:   Ever heard of a Speedway? posted by: Linn Harris on 3/2/2002 at 11:23:53 PM
My dad has his childhood bike, what he says is a 1936 or 1937 Speedway. It is a balloon tire, size 26 X 2.125 . It has a unique feature of a front wheel locking mechanism to lock the front wheel down at about a 30º angle, so the handlebars don't move. We've search databases and the like, but have found no info. Can you help me? Do you know value? rarity? etc


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ever heard of a Speedway? posted by sam on 3/4/2002 at 1:06:34 AM
Might be a Schwinn they used a lot of different head badges and they had a lockin fork.But so did some of the other makes like silver king by Monark.Check the data base and look for a bike that would look close to it.

MISC:   What is it ? posted by: Bob on 3/2/2002 at 9:54:33 PM
I saw a 20 inch frame, thought to be an early Sting-Ray. However the serial number looks too early(F20636), and is one digit shy, as in seven digits used in 1963's that I've seen. What pre Sting-Ray boy's bikes were available with the serial number I provided? This site references the serial to 1952. Could this be?

   RE:MISC:   What is it ? posted by aaron on 3/5/2002 at 8:41:18 PM
ive seen 20inch typhoons from the fifties and early 1960s, last one i bought was for the head badge off of a 1960 typhoon seriel # starting B0.....

BALLOON:   Monte Carlo posted by: Ian on 3/2/2002 at 9:23:54 PM
I have purchased a 'cruiser' style bicycle sight unseen, kind of a whim as I collect unusual &/or unique (to me perhaps) bikes from one to 4 wheels and this whole transaction itself is rather a novelty. The person describing the bike has no bike knowledge and has told me only that the words Monte Carlo are on the down tube and the bike is around 1968 vintage. Any information is appreciated as I will pick the bike up in Florida in May (I live in Minnesota).

   RE:BALLOON:   Monte Carlo posted by Kim on 3/5/2002 at 3:48:16 PM
I know Murray made a bike called the Monteray as recently as 1999. It's a Taiwann bike. It would not surprise me if it is the same type of bike.

BALLOON:   What do I have? No headbadge. posted by: Chris on 3/2/2002 at 8:56:54 PM
I have just purchased a Balloon tire bike that is missing any badging as to what it is. It does have distinctive "shark-fin" mounts where the rear wheel attaches and has dual bars above and below where a tank would mount.
I am sorry, but I am new to the bicycle world and am interested in restoring this bike if it is a worthy candidate.
Thank you.


   RE:BALLOON:   What do I have? No headbadge. posted by sam on 3/2/2002 at 10:13:42 PM
Chris,not a bad find.What you got is a Murray(or sears)This frame was used for the sears space liner.But the space liner would be a chrome frame with tank and springer fork etc.They had other models with less on them.My first bike Dad got me was a J.C.Higgins sport 2-speed.looked a lot like the Schwinn corvettes of the same time only was built on your bike's frame style---sam

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   What do I have? No headbadge. posted by ken on 3/8/2002 at 7:52:38 PM
Sam is correct, the dropouts are a giveaway. There are good pictures of both the Sears Spaceliner and the Flightliner in the Oldroads picture database. Both frames have the double top tube, but the Spaceliner's is not in the traditional cantilever configuration. The Flightliner, which preceded the spaceliner came either in red or in chrome ("deluxe") and the deluxe came at least in some cases without the springer fork. See if yours resembles one of these. As far as value, there are a couple of us who have incomplete ones, and the tank, 'luggage rack', seat and 'jeweled' pedals are hard to get. Check also for the Bendix 2-speed hub with three red bands. (Note: there never was a headbadge on the Flightliner because the tank went around the steer tube.) Let us know what you learn.

BALLOON:   image information wanted posted by: Karm on 2/28/2002 at 3:09:41 PM

I have an off the wall question that I was hoping could get answered here.

A few months ago I was in a bookstore and came across a book that had a great cover that I was hoping someone could either tell me the name of the painting or the name of the book.

The cover image was an oil painting like image of a woman and a bicycle. The majority of the cover was a dark blue. The bicycle was an classic ballon tire that had wings drawn on the pedals. The angelic looking woman was riding the bike or she was hovering around the bike .

I think the book was a history of advertising book but I could be way off. I searched Amazon and other sites to try and find the cover but had no luck. If anyone is familiar with the image or the book and could give me any information on either that would be great!

Thanks much!


   RE:BALLOON:   image information wanted posted by Jimbo Jones on 3/8/2002 at 1:17:03 AM
Perhaps its in here. Their is another site with a larger data base but I couldn't find it. http://www.pedalinghistory.com/PHPosters.htm

AGE / VALUE:   1952 J. C. Higgins posted by: Brian on 2/27/2002 at 3:55:00 AM
I have two (man's and matching woman's) 1952 J C Higgins full-size bikes for sale. Bell-spring front suspension (both). Man's bike is partially restored and rideable, everything there but the tank. Original handlebars, wheels, spokes, axles, gooseneck, chainguard and fenders. leather spring-style saddle (big and comfortable). The woman's bike is not needs rechromed, and assembled. All there including tank, chainguard, rear carrier and skirt protectors. Best offer over $1500 gets them both.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1952 J. C. Higgins posted by helpful hint on 3/1/2002 at 4:03:14 AM
Unless these bikes are made of gold, your price is way out of line. You can find these same bikes on www.bikeicons.com for $300-400 in perfect, mint conditon.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1952 J. C. Higgins posted by Brian on 3/1/2002 at 2:20:15 PM
Thanks for the response. I went on what a friend told me. The price is now $1000 for both

AGE / VALUE:   milwaukee bike show posted by: aaron on 2/26/2002 at 11:58:11 PM
wow that was a neat bike show, lots of neat stuff there. i sold a bunch of stuff but it seems that nobody is interested in 2 speed hubs any more. they were laying all over and i couldnt sell mine on a pair of light wieght schwinn wheels for $30 it was the yellow striped too, not to mention they came with a 1969 roadmaster mixty frame bike loaded with stuff. is there still any interest in these hubs in other states?

WANTED:   Rollfast light and chainguard posted by: Tom on 2/26/2002 at 11:46:02 PM
I am looking for a Rollfast fender light and chainguard for an early 40's Rollfast. Anyone have these that are not needed. They don't have to be mint as I can restore them. The chainguard does need to be dent free.

BALLOON:    What do i have ? posted by: Andy on 2/26/2002 at 10:07:46 PM
I recently got a chrome (frame)& blue (chain gaurd & stuff) jc higgins. Should i restore or leave it as is & just fix the tires & seat. will restoring reduce value? It looks pretty good now. How do i clean up the chrome without scratching it all up. WHATS IT WORTH? is the important question. It rides pretty nice too thankyou for your help @ pleas email me with answer at andybrowne1@netscape.net (because i dont know if i will be able to find this post again

AGE / VALUE:   Military Bicycles posted by: Bill on 2/25/2002 at 3:52:25 PM
In order to promote and exchange information on the Military Bicycles, the following newsgroup has been founded:

warbikes, Military Bicycles throughout history


If you own or are interested in exchanging information on this subject, please feel free to join.
If you are aware of anyone outside this newsgroup that would also be interested, please pass on.

Highest regards,

FOR SALE:   Balloon Tire Bikes posted by: Greg on 2/25/2002 at 4:34:47 AM
I just posted some very nice bikes for sale on ebay.
Schwinn Motorbike, Red Phantom, Cycle Truck, Hornet, Panther, etc. Also a very nice Columbia.
Go to www.ebay.com and search for seller ID: 2001rocket or copy and paste the following into your browser.


Be sure to look at all the pictures and to click "view seller's other auctions" to see my other stuff!

BALLOON:   Rocket Ray on Schwinn posted by: Andrew on 2/24/2002 at 10:53:05 PM
Who knows what year the large Delta rocket Ray fender headlight was first used on Schwinn's ?

   RE:BALLOON:   Rocket Ray on Schwinn posted by Steve on 2/25/2002 at 2:36:00 PM
I belive it was 1951