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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

MISC:   NOTE TO TODJOB posted by: click on 6/16/2002 at 6:17:38 AM
dont flatter yourself bro. you got no idea. your always looking behind stingrays for your mole. i much prefer nice big cruisers.

   RE:MISC:   NOTE TO TODJOB posted by Guido on 6/17/2002 at 1:06:44 PM
Just because you say you like cruisers, we`re supposed to believe you ? Just because you use "Bro" we`re supposed to believe you`re Wing ??? Please !!

You`re Busted ! If only 3 people knew that Todd thought it was a Sting Ray guy, then how did you know ????
Very interesting.

   RE:MISC:   NOTE TO TODJOB posted by Click, Click, PULL! on 6/17/2002 at 1:13:51 PM
Let the bodies hit the floor! The 'mole' has shot its self! Just follow the trail of blood to the guilty one whose Main purpose in life is to cause dessintion. Gottcha punk!

FOR SALE:   Schwinn Mark V Jaguar -30 yrs. in garage posted by: Jerome on 6/16/2002 at 3:37:02 AM
I have a Schwinn Mark V Jaguar and I am not sure what year it is from or the value. I would appreciate any information on either and would be willing to entertain fair offers. I have six pictures of it and I would be glad to e-mail them to anyone interested in seeing them. I am not a bike enthuisiast but it appears to be in pretty good shape. thank you , Jerome

   RE:FOR SALE:   Schwinn Mark V Jaguar -30 yrs. in garage posted by Ric on 6/20/2002 at 4:06:17 AM
Send me the pictures. Also there is a serial number stamped on the left rear dropout on the frame. Send that number with letter(S) and I can date it.

BALLOON:   Schwinn Find posted by: Bob on 6/15/2002 at 10:11:56 PM
Need help with parts ect. I just found a Boys Schwinn, sn G456718. It has a chainguard like a Phantom with decals in good shape, but has no model name anywhere. It has a curved top bar, and straight lower bar with no tank. It has a Skip tooth chainring with heart shapes, New Departure rear hub with oil cap. It is maroon and creme/white, with white S2 rims with black pinstripes. It has a short light on the front fender, well the bottom half of it anyway. It has seen better days, but I put air in the tires (schwinn typhoon on the rear, Davis on the front, and took it for a spin.
Any idea what I should refer to when referencing parts ect?
What is one like this worth?

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Find posted by Bob on 6/16/2002 at 7:50:56 PM
I think I have solved the mystery, if my assumptions are correct. The bike is a straightbar, and shows slight scratches where the tank used to be, so I assume it is a 1950 Hornet. I thought it might be a DX, but it looks to me like the DX has a curved second bar, right? Were there any other bikes in the 1950 lineup that was a straightbar, tank, truse rods and carrier? Oh, found out the light is a Delta Rocket Ray. Am I on track here?

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Find posted by MNSmith on 6/16/2002 at 10:46:22 PM
Basically you are working with a Hornet ( or Hornet Deluxe. ) Whether it says Wasp or Meteor or any other name on the chainguard, it is basically a Hornet. You are correct, the DX had a slightly curving lower bar ( just beware, a lot of folks will call that DX a straight bar bike which it certainly isn't. ) Hornets that early did come with Rocket Rays. So when you are looking for parts, refer to it as a Hornet! Hope that helps!


   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Find posted by Bob on 6/16/2002 at 11:23:35 PM
Thanks for the education, now what is the difference between a hornet and a deluxe hornet? (I dont see anything on the chainguard exept the schwinn circle, maybe the model was washed or scrubbed off).

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Find posted by MNSmith on 6/17/2002 at 6:59:01 PM
The Deluxe Hornet had some upper end parts. Springer, whitewall tires and $10 tacked on to the regular Hornet price tag.


MIDDLEWEIGHT:   speedster/schwinn-1 speed-middleweight posted by: Margo Allan on 6/14/2002 at 11:53:59 PM
I've been trying to identify my bike for a while-please help. All parts appear to be original-marked schwinn. Black original paint -good decals-one speed serial number HB43536. Normal grip handlebars(not racing style), pedal brakes, built in kick-stand. My speedster doesn't look like any of the pictures that I've seen posted.ie no hand brakes etc. and my serial number doesn't match any post-1948 serial numbers or date codes. I would like to know an approximate value if possible. paint is definately original and in good shape except for some surface scratches. The rear fender is kinda dented. no real rusty patches though.Can anyone help? Thanks

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   speedster/schwinn-1 speed-middleweight posted by goob on 6/15/2002 at 2:41:46 AM
where is the serial number located. very well could be a 1966 they had HB numbers

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   speedster/schwinn-1 speed-middleweight posted by Margo Allan on 6/15/2002 at 1:33:27 PM
The serial number on my speedster is located on the rear left fork. Do you know anything else about it? Are there many around? I haven't yet seen any pictures that match.

   RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   speedster/schwinn-1 speed-middleweight posted by Gary M on 6/16/2002 at 2:46:49 AM
i have a 1966 Speedster in my bike line, red, all original with a 2sp kickback. i am asking $100, and the hub is most of the value

AGE / VALUE:   serial # posted by: starr on 6/14/2002 at 10:45:23 PM
I bought a supposed Schwinn cruiser at a garage sale. Bad paint and rust cover most of the bike. I was wondering where I might be able to find the serial # for identification

AGE / VALUE:   serial # posted by: starr on 6/14/2002 at 10:45:23 PM
I bought a supposed Schwinn cruiser at a garage sale. Bad paint and rust cover most of the bike. I was wondering where I might be able to find the serial # for identification

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   serial # posted by goob on 6/15/2002 at 2:44:58 AM
look under the pedal hanger the housing that the crank goes through or back on the drop out on the left side by the brake arm where the rim is bolted on

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Trying to identify posted by: Brent on 6/14/2002 at 1:04:44 AM
I have come across an old girls bicycle, with New Departure wheels and coaster brake. A tag on the bottom of the peddle housing says SHELCO No.49. 40572 USA Made. If anyone could shed any light as to what this bike is or its year I would be gratful. thank you

FOR SALE:   Tool Box Saddle posted by: Ray on 6/13/2002 at 9:03:57 PM

   RE:FOR SALE:   Tool Box Saddle posted by Ray on 6/14/2002 at 2:36:35 PM
On my above auction, has anyone ever heard of the person who bid this seat up. I do not recognize him as a regular bike guy. According to his feedback he has never purchased a bicycle item before and usually just deals in small cards and the such. I have had a run of bad auctions with non payers. I think my cyber stalker may be up to tricks again.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Tool Box Saddle posted by Guido on 6/15/2002 at 5:28:45 AM
Didn`t Ebay user "Guesswhosback" also sell cards ? Trading cards of all kinds, along with tons of photocopy antique bike info ? ? Maybe it`s him and he has recently changed his username ? Just a guess.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Tool Box Saddle posted by Tom on 6/17/2002 at 1:53:36 AM
The user that did the bidding has used that name since spring of 2001. No name change. He may have used another name under another credit card but not likely. You can access anyones history on the item page or home search page. If the user used an emil address name it will be consealed. In his bidding he probably bid each time by raising it $10 each time. He really wants that seat.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Bendix 2 speed lever shift, need help posted by: Eric Law on 6/13/2002 at 4:03:20 AM
Hi i need a parts diagram showing how to rebuild a 2 speed bendix lever shift hub for regreasing the bearings, and adjusting the shift cable properly, thank you Eric Law,

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Bendix 2 speed lever shift, need help posted by Sgt. Schultz on 6/13/2002 at 10:59:00 AM
"I know nothing, Col. Hogan".
Contact Dan Venturi, email:


He is ebay seller BicycleBones, and sells parts for the cable-operated hub.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Bendix 2 speed lever shift, need help posted by Gordon on 6/13/2002 at 12:39:41 PM
I can send you a copy of the diagram Eric.

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Bendix 2 speed lever shift, need help posted by Chris on 6/14/2002 at 3:10:00 PM
Used book store, bicycling section. Trust me, go look.

MISC:   Schwinn Log Date Codes update posted by: Guido on 6/11/2002 at 8:30:17 PM
Here is the new link to the codes project http://www.angelfire.com/rant/allday101/SchwinnCodes1.html
use it to copy and paste your way to a FREE Shop Foremans Daily Log, and then some.
Important Note:
A group of people are going to attempt to rebuild the older than 1948 years. Your serial numbers are needed. If you know the exact year of your bike, it`s a bonus and a starting point of reference. If you don`t know the exact year, but can e-mail me a picture of it with the number, we might be able to pass the pic around and narrow the year by subtle year differences. If you don`t know the exact year and don`t have a picture either, the raw number alone is just as usefull for the list rebuilding process.
This will be a long term project. G-man

   RE:MISC:   Schwinn Log Date Codes update posted by Guido on 6/11/2002 at 9:00:56 PM
This could also be done with the newer than 1966 codes to get closer to a detailed daily list by using the 65-66 years as a reference to how many numbers were used per day

AGE / VALUE:   Information on Monark Bikes posted by: Jamie on 6/11/2002 at 2:26:21 AM
Hello, I just purchased two old bikes for my girlfriend and myself to go riding with the want to restore them this fall, but I need some info on parts and the bikes if anyone can help me. The first one is a balloon tire bike with a horn on the tank and a headlight on the front fender, it is marked on the fork "firestone super cruiser" and i was told it was a "Monarch"?? It is a girls bike. The second is also a girls and says "Monarch Thunderbird" on it and has a thunderbird type emblem on the front fender. I was wondering if anyone can tell me how to find out the age of the bikes, and value, and where I can get information as to restore them for parts and decals and original paint and so on so that I can restore them. I can email pictures of the bikes to anyone who needs one to identify them. Thanks alot, Jamie

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Information on Monark Bikes posted by Jamie on 6/15/2002 at 1:23:10 AM
My mistake, the bike reads - Monark on it. There has to be someone out there with information on Monark bikes?? Thanks, Jamie

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Information on Monark Bikes posted by david on 6/16/2002 at 1:09:04 PM
hi jamie, i have a couple monarks myself. i really like the bikes very well made. i got my decals from maple island sales. ebay is a good place to look for parts and i also have some sheet metal left over. the bike books are also great i bought both of them on ebay and saved a few bucks.
also yoou can find vintage ads that are a gret refrence.
check out my boys and girls (this is mine and my wifes favorite bikes)http://groups.msn.com/JUSTBIKES/baloonbikes.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=34
if you need any more info email me and i will try to help.

MISC:   lets rebuild the Schwinn date codes!! posted by: Gary M on 6/10/2002 at 7:08:05 PM
Ok if you have pulled the crank and verified a pre-1948 build date, or can id from a rare hub or other item, lets send all those verified numbers to one place. then we can rebuild the missing date codes. if we all took the ones we know to be original and authentic and put in the numbers, i bet the entire database could be rebuilt. all we need is a site to hold the data

   I'll make a list... posted by Joel on 6/11/2002 at 6:24:04 PM
If anyone has a prewar Schwinn and can POSITIVELY IDENTIFY the year, email me the model and serial #. I have only one that I can be sure about. If I get any response, I'll try advertising some other places and see what happens. A partial list is better than no list at all. Only a few numbers could establish a pattern and a partial range, right?

AGE / VALUE:   Indian Princess posted by: Juan on 6/8/2002 at 12:33:13 PM

Our neighbor offered to give us this old Schwinn, since my girlfriend always wanted one we took it. Then we noticed it wasn't a Schwinn at all it is something called an Indian Princess. I think made by the Indian Motorcycle Co.

Anyways, I been looking all over the web and was wondering does anyone know how to date these and get an approximate value?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Indian Princess posted by sam on 6/8/2002 at 11:18:19 PM
Neat bike.They had the history under the for sale page on this site for one they had.They should be able to help.And yes they were sold by Indian Motorcycle(which is back in bussness in Cal.)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Indian Princess posted by Skip on 6/10/2002 at 12:55:08 PM
If it is a 3-speed you may be able to get more information from the English Roadster part of this site.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Indian Princess posted by Brian on 6/11/2002 at 3:27:51 AM
The lightweight Indian bicycles were made by Phillips in England and imported by Indian during the fifties. There should be a 2 digit number stamped on the rear hub shell of the SA rear hub that will date the bicycle.

AGE / VALUE:   Firestone 500 ...... posted by: Brad Phillips on 6/8/2002 at 4:46:25 AM
I just picked up a bike at a yard sale. The plate on the frame neck says Firestone. It also says Firestone 500 on the chain guard. The bike is a womans, & it has Schwin spitfire 24x1.75 tires on it. It is painted white & dark blue with baby blue fenders. Looks like it is original. I would like to know what it might be worth. Also what years was it made & is there a serial # to look for? Thankyou, Brad

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone 500 ...... posted by Tom Findley on 6/10/2002 at 5:43:34 PM
Follow this auction to find out what it's worth:


It was made by the Murray Bike Co. They made Firestone bikes around 1963 + or - a few years.

There is probably a long serial number on the left rear dropout (axle mount). I don't think there are any serial number / year lists for Murray.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone 500 ...... posted by goob on 6/10/2002 at 8:57:59 PM
i know it depends on location and condition but i gave $30.00 for a nice mens

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone 500 ...... posted by Bob on 6/10/2002 at 9:05:49 PM
The pictured bike is actually a Huffy, cir. 1960's. Huffy made bikes for Sears, Western Auto, Firestone ect. as did Murray. The star on the chainwheel gives it away.

   I really goofed on this one posted by Tom Findley on 6/11/2002 at 12:02:55 PM
1. I didn't know that Huffy made bikes for Firestone.
2. The front fork looked like a Murray, witrh the 2 metal braces at the top.
3. The rear axle dropouts are not pointed to the rear, which Murrays are.
4. The sprocket is not a Murray, but I didn't know what it was.
The mistake was to look at the front fork and say it's a Murray. I know Columbia copied the Schwinn cantilever frame, and now I know that Huffy made close copies of Murray forks.

AGE / VALUE:   Need Help with Make and Model posted by: Barb on 6/8/2002 at 2:05:12 AM
I was given an old bike by my neighbor. It looks like it is from the 1960's. It is a woman's bike with the work Holiday on the chain gaurd and a painted crown on the back fender rack. Can someone tell me what I have on my hands?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need Help with Make and Model posted by JOEL on 6/8/2002 at 10:36:09 PM
Sounds like a Monark.