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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   schwinn aerocycle posted by: Butch on 9/13/2002 at 4:40:33 AM
I was wondering if anyone could tell me what a '34 schwinn
aerocycle (red&silver) would be worth,needs restoring.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn aerocycle posted by Gordon on 9/13/2002 at 12:56:03 PM
Depending on condition and completeness, it should be worth several thousand.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn aerocycle posted by sam on 9/14/2002 at 2:19:39 AM
Ha Butch,How's the weather up in northern Minn.Figured you'd have that Autocycle restored and makin all the shows by now?--sam, and yes Gorden is correct$8000 to $10,000 restored by cycleart or Dave Stromberger.You did say you found it compleat but in poor condition,right?

AGE / VALUE:   How old? posted by: Wayne on 9/12/2002 at 2:32:58 PM
I purchased an old schwinn bike on a farm sale. Paint color scheme is the same as a b-6. No fenders, no tank. It has the springer front fork and had a skip tooth sprocket and chain. Serial no. appears to be F88005, which if I checked correctly would be an early 50's. Did they still use skip tooth chains then? The rims on the bike are different then the s-2's commonly used. The center of the rim is raised and somewhat rounded. Are these worth restoring?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   How old? posted by Joel on 9/12/2002 at 8:53:11 PM
Skip tooth chains were still used on some bikes into the early 50s. Drop Center rims used into the late 40s. Worth restoring? Sure.

Here's a link to a complete serial number list.

BALLOON:   Need help finding age of my bike posted by: Kevin on 9/12/2002 at 7:31:25 AM
I have an old Schwinn Fleet # DB36146 I cant figure out the age of this bike, I got it from the original owner, It has the dealer decal from Detroit Michigan, It is missing the fender light (does anyone know what the correct light looks like,also where can I find one?) Its a good sturdy bike that I ride often, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Kevin.

   RE:BALLOON:   Need help finding age of my bike posted by Tom Findley on 9/12/2002 at 11:14:54 AM
Bike was made April, 1966.

I am not sure of the headlight, but it may be a long chrome torpedo shape with fins on the back and a long "S" on top.

Headlights are listed by themselves on ebay in the Bicycles section.

I think you can get one for about $20 - up.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Need help finding age of my bike posted by Kevin on 9/12/2002 at 8:34:17 PM
Thanks for the help Tom also for the information about the headlight.

BALLOON:   Mead Bicycle posted by: George on 9/12/2002 at 3:14:54 AM
I picked up a Mead Crusader out of the trash. The wheels and chainguard are missing. I have seen some information on the Ranger, but nothing about the Crusader. Can anyone help me date this old beauty? I have been unsuccessful at even finding a picture.

   RE:BALLOON:   Mead Bicycle posted by Chris on 9/12/2002 at 8:15:02 PM
Try Leon Dixon

   RE:BALLOON:   Mead Bicycle posted by sam on 9/12/2002 at 8:21:29 PM
George,I emailed you.but forgot to say Crusaders were made from 1890s to 1940s or50s not sure just when mead folded.--sam

BALLOON:   Mead Bicycle posted by: George on 9/12/2002 at 3:14:54 AM
I picked up a Mead Crusader out of the trash. The wheels and chainguard are missing. I have seen some information on the Ranger, but nothing about the Crusader. Can anyone help me date this old beauty? I have been unsuccessful at even finding a picture.

AGE / VALUE:   1950 Black Phantom posted by: Dave on 9/11/2002 at 4:40:02 PM
I have a 1950? black phantom that has a lot of accys that work.The bike looks nearly new except the word black is faded on the chain guard.Anyone interested in buying it? Or just interested in telling me what it might be worth?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1950 Black Phantom posted by John Bearsford-Tipton on 9/12/2002 at 11:08:43 AM
The bike is worth $12,000. If you would like to sell it, my agent, Micheal Anthony will contact you.

I must caution you that anyone offering less money is trying to swindle you.

TTFN, off to the Hamptons.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1950 Black Phantom posted by Don on 9/12/2002 at 11:29:22 PM
I am not sure if it is worth quite that much, maybe half. it might be worth that if it were NOS.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1950 Black Phantom posted by Wings on 9/13/2002 at 6:24:27 AM
At one time it was worth that much but with the anniversary phantoms and parts out there they are cheaper now.

I suggest you look up "Schwinn Phantom" on Ebay and check the completed auctions. That will give you what the actual end of auction prices are.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1950 Black Phantom posted by Dave on 9/13/2002 at 1:30:52 PM
I looked on e- bay. Thank you for the info .Why does this one say "B.F. Goodrich by Schwinn on the front and it has bf goodrich tires on it? Anyone interested in purchasing this bike e-mail me at andy9992@aol.com

BALLOON:   Two Hiawatha questions posted by: Michael on 9/11/2002 at 4:28:42 PM
I recently bought a 1950 Ladies Hiawatha model (Cleveland Welding I think) with a white torpedo light on the front fender. The bike is two toned, gray and red, and the light looks to me to be an aftermarket item since it doesn't match the bike at all. If it is, what would have gone there on a bike of this year, another light or a Hiawatha fender ornament? The bicycle already has a metal Hiawatha headbadge.

Question two, I very carefully washed this bicycle using very low presure water and Simple Green. Still some of the red paint smeared, is this typical of an old bike and how can I prevent or minimize it?

   RE:BALLOON:   Two Hiawatha questions posted by Joel on 9/12/2002 at 9:07:05 PM
Some CW bikes had a headlight mount on the fork. If there are 2 holes in the fender (and no fork mount) it probably had a torpedo light.

If the paint is smearing, your cleaning method is too harsh.

   RE:BALLOON:   Two Hiawatha questions posted by Jeff on 9/13/2002 at 8:59:31 PM
Simple Green and other spray cleansers like Spray Nine are not too friendly to bicycle decals and silkscreens. Be very careful when using these.

BALLOON:   Western Flyer Repro? posted by: mike on 9/10/2002 at 11:46:51 PM
to make a long story short...i bought a western flyer 100% restored(?) from a guy who i think didn't know what he had. I was told its a 1950 but the serial number is under the crank. I always thought that if the serial number was under the crank its pre-1951 and then moved to the rear drop out and theen the head tube. Is this right? It does not have a skip tooth but everything else is immaculate. Question "How can I tell if my bike is a reproduction or an original?"

   RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer Repro? posted by Gordon on 9/11/2002 at 3:49:34 AM
The "under the crank" and "left dropout" only works for Schwinn. I heard once that the reproductions had a sticker that said "authentic" somewhere on the bike. Skiptooth chain was used into the early 1950's by some manufacturers.

   RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer Repro? posted by Jimbo Jones on 9/11/2002 at 4:45:39 AM
He might have know what he had.If the crank is squared of on the ends, stamped stem, the white paint on the front is just spewed on there like a lazy fade and the headbadge is a decal ( i think) its an 80s 90s repro. How much you pay for it? Still might be fun.

I once was going to buy an 80s Murray and make it look vintage but the guy selling it told me he bought it it in the fifties and that it was worth at least 200.00. I almost offered him 30.00 till he told me that story.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer Repro? posted by mike on 9/12/2002 at 3:39:03 PM
I bought this immaculate western flyer and an original 1938 woman's dayton huffman for 400. The dayton is in great condition with the exception of the paint being a bit old and extremely slight rust on the truss rods in front. Though i really like the dayton huffman... the western flyer is absolutely great. I was just concerned as to if its a reproduction or an original. I'm not concerned with value but more that if its a reproduction, then i'm happy to ride it. If its an original, then it'll be put away and stored from the elements along with a few others I have accumalated over the years.

   RE:BALLOON:   Western Flyer Repro? posted by gary m on 9/14/2002 at 7:49:41 PM
the forward end of the cantilever tubes on an original are round, smooth and perfect. the repros are pinched off junky ends. the chaingaurd on a repro can be easily bent with one finger

MISC:   Where to find a 24" girls bike. posted by: Don on 9/10/2002 at 2:27:12 AM
Hello, I'll soon be in the market for a 24" girls ballon tire bicycle as my daughter is about to out grow her 20". Where would be a good place to look for such a bike? I see that Memory Lane in Grand Rapids Ohio has a show comming up in Oct. I'm not looking for a huge investment. Any other ideas?

   RE:MISC:   Where to find a 24 posted by Joel on 9/10/2002 at 3:46:10 PM
Interesting email address...

24" bikes (with few exceptions) do not seem to be very sought after by collectors. You should have no problem finding one. If you post a few ads now, you might find one that can be delivered to the ML show.

   RE:MISC:   Where to find a 24 posted by Don on 9/12/2002 at 3:32:30 AM
Thanks Joel. I've had the eamil address for some time. I wanted on that I could tell to my friends and they would not need to write it down.

I'm looking foward to the show at Memory Lane. Last year I bought my daughter a really nice Schwinn Fair Lady stingray there. I have also gotten a 36" Monster Cruiser from ML and it is the funnest thing to ride, but too big to transport easily.

I already have a 1950 26" Schwinn skip-tooth that my daughter will be getting. But I want to find a 24" cruiser for her to use for a little while. I'll then donate the 24 incer to one of my wifes freinds who is not tall enough for a 26" bike, but does not want to ride one of the newer "Kid looking" bicycles.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Where to find a 24 posted by JimW. on 9/13/2002 at 2:16:54 PM
I would recommend that you get in touch with Gordon Bradbury.
>gbradbur@dia.net> I got a fabulous deal on a girl's 24" ballooner
from him a while back. He's a really good guy, and will treat you right.

AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Rambler posted by: Patrick on 9/9/2002 at 10:40:18 PM
I just got a girls/womens columbia rambler (with a tank) at a flea market. I can't seem to find the serial number. Does anyone know where to look. I think it is from the 40s or 50s. The bike is fairly rusty but it has all original parts and is fun to ride. I want to restore this bike, but I don't know where to start. Can someone suggest internet resources or books on restoration. Thank You!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Rambler posted by sam on 9/10/2002 at 1:11:25 AM
Pat,try one of my favorate sites http://www.bunchobikes.com/ it's free and a good site to start with.Good info. then go to www.thecabe.com for some of the books you need.And don't forget this site has lots of stuff to help you too---sam

AGE / VALUE:   Otasco "Flying O" posted by: Steve on 9/9/2002 at 3:00:54 AM
I have and old maroon metallic flying o bicycle, and i was wondering if anyone could guess the age and possibly the value.It has a mesinger spring seat,the tires are what i beleive to be balloon type. They have an indian head on them and say lightning in big letters. I have no idea of the model ,it just says Flying O on the decal with otasco underneath. Any help is appreciated.

AGE / VALUE:   make of bike? posted by: mark on 9/7/2002 at 4:30:37 PM
I found an old bike that looks to be orginal unpainted, and I would like to describe it and see if anyone knows what it may be. It has no headbadge, but the screw holes are 2-5/8th apart I have three headbadges that fit that order,a schwinn,jc higgins, adn western flyer. It has a model D new departure hub,coaster brake. It has an odd springer front end with the spring inside that head tube. On the bottom bracket is stamped B 4 8 8 1 9 , and you can tell that each stamp was done individually, The chain guard has some cool looking ribbs in it, and is mount nicely with brackets,that chain wheel is concentric slots,and it has 200 cast into opposite sides of each pedal rubber. I really like this bike and bought new red rubber tires for it. Can anyone tell what it is?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   make of bike? posted by sam on 9/8/2002 at 1:03:13 PM
peerless used this type of springer in the fork system.Others mayhave---sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   make of bike? posted by Gordon on 9/8/2002 at 2:17:20 PM
Shelby made the hidden springer called the Shockease. It was introduced in 1941 and continued for awhile after WWII, but kids like to see the springers, so it was discontinued. I have two of these bikes, mine are both Hiawathas, made by Shelby for the Gambles Hardware Stores. They were also sold as Western Flyers, and maybe others I'm unaware of.

AGE / VALUE:   American Flyer posted by: Cynthia on 9/7/2002 at 1:04:35 AM
I've been riding an American Flyer 27 x 2.125 that I bought at an auction for $7.00 about 15 years ago. I love it and think it has the potential to be collectible--my family makes fun of me. How old is this bike? I can't find it listed anywhere so I guess its not old enough to be collectible?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   American Flyer posted by Tom Findley on 9/9/2002 at 3:26:48 PM
Here's a catalog from 1940:


Tank from the 60's? It does not look like a Schwiin:


Schwinn-built badge:


American Flyers may have been built by more than 1 company.

AGE / VALUE:   I beat the Trash truck posted by: Craig on 9/6/2002 at 11:39:42 AM
While driving to work the other day I passed a house with a for sale sign in front. In their garbage pile I saw a 20" Columbia balloon tire bike. I has a New Deptarture rear hub. I believe it was made in the middle forties to early fifties? Were these bikes a limited production run or just not a big seller?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I beat the Trash truck posted by Joel on 9/6/2002 at 9:25:48 PM
I doubt it was produced in small numbers. Columbia bikes were very popular. 20" bikes are harder to find in good shape because they were used by younger kids and took more abuse.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   I beat the Trash truck posted by Craig on 9/9/2002 at 11:43:38 AM
I removed the wheels, injected some oil here and there, repacked the bearing, put on some new tires and put it back together. My Friend's son road tested it on Sunday. He did not want to stop riding it.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   26x1.75 Tires posted by: Brad on 9/5/2002 at 1:57:50 PM
Being new and getting confused I am needing recommendation on 26x1.75 (not S-7's) tires. I am planning to replace both tires with white walls on a girls bike and am looking for a street tire with as classic of tread shape and design as possible. Would appreciate recommendations. Thanks, Brad

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   26x1.75 Tires posted by Brad on 9/5/2002 at 2:50:51 PM
I am replying to myself with additional info. The Bike is a girls 50's cruiser with all of the extras, although it is an unappreciated Evans sonic scout that I am "fixing up" as a learning exercise for a better bike later. Thanks

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   26x1.75 Tires posted by Joel on 9/5/2002 at 4:25:13 PM
Memory Lane, Maple Island Sales, and several lowrider websites sell nice whitewalls.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   26x1.75 Tires posted by sam on 9/5/2002 at 9:11:32 PM
Good idea,did the same thing with a fixer.Pays to learn on riders.