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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by: Dave on 9/5/2002 at 10:55:32 AM
I recently bought a Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol at a tag sale for $15. It needs cosmetic work, but rides well.
Should it have a tank? It also has a front brake and a 3 speed shifter on the top tube....is this origional? What is something like this work?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by sam on 9/5/2002 at 12:00:07 PM
Is the rear hub a sturmey archer with coaster brake?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by Dave on 9/5/2002 at 12:29:26 PM
Hello......thanx for the reply......it does have a coaster brake......how can i tell if it is a sturmy archer?


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by dave on 9/5/2002 at 12:34:43 PM
Hello again....I just looked at it & yes it does have the sturmey archer with coaster brake.....what do you think......should I restore the old beast?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by sam on 9/5/2002 at 9:21:57 PM
Maybe? Depends on you and the condition of the bike.Is it a boys frame?I think for me that might be the deciding factor.Also check the serial# for a build date.You'll find columbia #s list on this site.Be also mindful that the Sturmey/archer coaster brake was not a great brake and does have limits.(it also should have a date stamped on it--covered with dirt and likely stamped very light)At $15 you got a bargin anyway you go.---sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by dave on 9/5/2002 at 10:43:35 PM
Hey Sam,
It is a boys bike.....Should it have a tank? Cosmeticly it isn't anything special. Is that suicide shift thing & front brake the way it came origionaly? Would it be a no no to customize this thing....like paint it a different color? The serial number is L264718....I think that makes it a 62' Thanks for the info!


   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by sam on 9/6/2002 at 2:47:04 AM
Hard to say about the tank.1962 tanks were becomming old stuff.look at the paint to see if you can find rub marks where a tank would have been.Many boys removed the tanks if there bike had one.And if you want to paint go for it.(unless it has real nice original paint)you can paint it any color your hart desires.Paint can always be changed.This should also be a middle/weight bike,right?(26"x1.75" tires)M/Ws are less valuable than ballooners but make good kustoms.Visit www bikerodnkustom.com ---sam

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia Goodyear Hi-Way Patrol posted by dave on 9/7/2002 at 12:59:09 PM
Thanks for the info sam!........so you think the front caliper brake and shifter on the top tube are origional?

AGE / VALUE:   BALLON TIRE posted by: barbara forsythe on 9/4/2002 at 9:06:23 PM

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Evans mid/late 50's? Need general and tires info posted by: Brad on 9/2/2002 at 2:07:54 PM
We recently purchased a garage sale Evans Girl's "sonic scout" light green with pale yellow rocket stenciling. It has tank/horn, rear rack, long delta rocket ray light/white finish, basket, and good shiney rims with 26 x 1.75 tires. Questions: What is date of manufacture,what are correct tires for bike-what are schwinn c-7 size-how do your know diff, where do I order tires, what is correct type and style of rear reflector, where can I find vintage style streamers, would appreciate any general info on bike. Thanks, Brad

   Middleweight tires posted by Tom Findley on 9/3/2002 at 1:05:07 PM
The Evans bike takes tires marked 26 X 1.75". Get them from Memory Lane Classics at (419) 832-3040.

Tires to fit Schwinn S7 rims are marked 26 X 1 3/4". ML sells them, too.

Schwinn rims are bigger in diameter than other brand rims, and the tires will not interchange.

AGE / VALUE:   C.C.M Centenial posted by: D Smith on 8/31/2002 at 8:12:51 PM
I picked up a old CCM Centenial 24" middleweight bike from the trash. IS this a 1967 model or did CCM make this model more than just the one year?
it's a single speed coaster with 24x13/4 tires. fenders hve a high ridge running down the middle and the rear has a reflector built in to it.

anyone help me out with this bike?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   C.C.M Centenial posted by CCM Centenial on 9/1/2002 at 2:22:44 AM
I just took the bike apart for cleaning and found it's a 26 inch, not a 24inch.
and It has a 2speed hub, it says Doumatic on the cross bar.
It's a cantilever style frame.
The Stem was bent in the steerertube and the forks are bent.

I've decided to use the frame for a custom bike.

D Smith

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Firestone Speed Chief ? posted by: Dan on 8/31/2002 at 2:59:01 AM

I bought at auction a Firestone Speed Chief
middleweight. Has a tank and a rear rack and
it's green(spray-can), but sanding down to the
stock paint I found it to be white with red
accent stripes. What year's would you find a
Firestone Speed Chief sold around ?

BALLOON:   Shwinn Magestic 1950? posted by: Paul Sevigny on 8/29/2002 at 5:50:01 PM
Is there anybody out there with any knowledge on the Shwinn Magestic?the serial # is G19447 (the 9 was hard to read might be a 0?).It has a front drum brake,springer forks,might have had a whizzer type engine on it at one time.was missing chainguard and tank(if it had one to begin with).looking for someone with pictures of this bike and any info on where to get parts.Thanks,Paul

   RE:BALLOON:   Shwinn Magestic 1950? posted by MNSmith on 9/1/2002 at 11:39:15 PM
The Majestic is just a headbadge. The frame style would more closely identify the model. This way if it is a Hornet frame, DX frame or cantilever frame, it would be easier to point you in the right direction for photos.

AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer posted by: Michelle on 8/28/2002 at 9:38:58 PM
HELP ! I bought an old Western Flyer yesterday and I am trying to figure out exactly what I have. It has 16 inch solid tires, spring saddle seat, fenders (only goes up half way on front). It's green and white. Mostly green but has white on tank and chainguard. It has a tank on it that goes diagonally from the chainguard to the handlebars.The tank is mostly green with white in the middle and it says Western Flyer. The pedals and handlebars are red. From the way the tank is on it I thought it might be a girl's bike, but it has a wing nut holding the tank onto the bottom so I also thought it might be convertible. If anyone has any idea what year or model it might be I would appreciate it. Also value, or where I might find more info on it. I have been searching the internet and Ebay all day. Thanks!

FOR SALE:   balloon tired bicycles posted by: paul on 8/28/2002 at 12:06:12 AM
ca 1999 Sears Beach Cruiser(China), single speed coaster $90
ca 2000 Columbia Pioneer(Taiwan) 3 speed Shimano Nexus, coaster with front cantilever $90
both above full fendered comfort bicycles ca 2001 MadDog with 3 speed Shimano Nexus with cantilever front and rear $90. All of the above low low mileage, always kept indoors, have too many bicycles, concentrating only with British SA 3 speeds of years gone by,pic's by e mail available, delivery possible in So New England. Thanks for your interest, Paul

BALLOON:   roadmaster 16 inch posted by: wes on 8/26/2002 at 11:17:58 PM
while at the scrap iron yard hunting treasures i found a
16 inch by 1.75 top flight solid tires in good condition
it seat looks like a old harley seat even with the chrome around the back of the seat its even gof a buddy carrier like the big bikes with the tank still on it and it says roadmaster jr its got the rubber block peddles like from the 50s and the front fender looks like a old harley fender
it used to be green has any body have one like it it looks like a 50s or 60 bike any help will be appreciated
it is really built really good
like to know some kind of year where i can put it the attic with my other treasures thanks wes

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Westwind 26 x 1 3/4 tires posted by: Tom on 8/26/2002 at 10:32:20 PM
Looking for a good pair (NOS, repop, good used) of Schwinn Westwind brick-pattern treads for s-7 rims to complete restoration of 60's model Typhoon. Any offers or leads appreciated. Cheers.

AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer i.d ??? posted by: Ian on 8/26/2002 at 4:29:15 PM
I recently bought what was described as a Western Flyer 24" boys bike off ebay. (Item # 2123245730) but I don't really know what model it is, I just liked the look of it.
Can anybody help to identify it? Is it rare enough to warrant a correct restoration or should I just restore it how I like?
I can send a picture if the ebay number isn't still functional.
Any information would be most appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer i.d ??? posted by Ruby on 8/26/2002 at 8:17:54 PM
That looks like a Sears Spaceliner from the early sixties (1963 or '64 when they came out?).
Although I seem to remember them being all chrome.
Of course I could be wrong :-)


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer i.d ??? posted by Joel on 8/26/2002 at 8:51:23 PM
Yep, looks like the WF version of the early style Spaceliner made by Murray. The tank is pretty hard to find. You could probably find a nice one cheaper than restoring.

WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by: Warren on 8/25/2002 at 4:05:21 AM
Hello...newbie introduction here. I participate over on roadsters and lightweights but surpisingly, have ended up here because I've just purchased a CCM heavyweight here in Toronto. I collect CCM bikes and they made very few of them. Canada made very few ballooners...they followed British bike trends as a rule.

Anyway, this bike needs a respray...it's already been house-painted once. I'm wondering about the rims. The rear is a single speed Bendix hub with what I call an Endrick or typical square section rim. The front has a Westwood style rim, with a raised centre where the spokes join. I would like to match the rims as soon as I figure out which is original. I would also like to order some new whitewalls. Where can I order these parts in the North-East...close to Toronto would be nice.

Any answers or help will be much appreciated.

   RE:WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by sam on 8/26/2002 at 2:52:46 AM
What does the CCM ballooner look like?And what size tires are on this bike?American Ballooner bikes use 26"X2&1/4"(full size frames)American middle weight use 26"x1&3/4 (except Schwinn that uses a schwinn S-7 size)I ask because I have a CCM rim with a 26"x2" tire--sam

   RE:RE:WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by Warren on 8/27/2002 at 12:46:06 AM
I haven't got a pic just now...If I remember correctly, the tires said 26 X 2.25. They are the big ones...not a middleweight tire. I pick up the bike later in the week. What type of rim do you have? Maybe we can trade?



   RE:RE:WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by Warren on 8/27/2002 at 12:47:09 AM
I haven't got a pic just now...If I remember correctly, the tires said 26 X 2.25. They are the big ones...not a middleweight tire. I pick up the bike later in the week. What type of rim do you have? Maybe we can trade?



   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by Warren on 8/27/2002 at 12:48:29 AM

   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 8/27/2002 at 5:13:07 PM
Well, my 1973 C.C.M. catalog just shows a tandem with 26 X 1.75 rims and the two kids bikes with 20 inch wheels and those are the closest thing I see to balloon tires at least in my limted experience with C.C.M.

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   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   CCM Ballooner rim? posted by Warren on 8/27/2002 at 5:33:15 PM
Hi Chris...they were typically made from the 30's to around the early 50's. Mine is post WWII...you can tell by the oval headbadge.

AGE / VALUE:   Strato Chief ? posted by: kev on 8/24/2002 at 11:34:46 PM
Ineed info on this model. I don't know the make or year. Do need rims & tires handlebars & neck for it also. Someone has to of heard of this model please help?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Strato Chief ? posted by JimW. on 8/26/2002 at 4:32:12 AM
It may be by Murray. I believe they used "strato" in the nemes
of several of their models. Check out and compare Murrays in the database here,
and we have a pic of one in the bikerodnkustom.com gallery. It's a

BALLOON:   Need info posted by: Gary on 8/24/2002 at 10:58:28 PM
I have a Iver Johnson circa 1917 mens bike in good condition my dad gave to me. It was partially restored about 15 years ago and he put in storage. I am cleaning it and looking closely to parts that need to be replaced. I need new tires for it. It has 28 x1-1/2 tires on it now. Before the restoration I remember it had tires that were closer to 2 to 2-1/2 inches wide, the tread was "chain links" molded rubber and the cross section was shaped like a flattened horseshoe. The rims could possibly be metal clad wood because the area where the spoke nipples poke through is about 3/8 to 1/2 inch thick. The tires it has now are special to this rim. Any help to where I can find the original tires (or even the replacement tires)? This is a great bike I would like to have as a daily rider. It has a 2 speed New Departure Model C hub with coaster brakes. Any idea about parts for it in the future?

   RE:BALLOON:   Need info posted by sam on 8/25/2002 at 12:29:43 AM
Harper Machine and Manufacturing in Dunbar West Vinginia still makes these tires,they are also sold through coker tire.Great bike!

   RE:BALLOON:   Need info posted by paul on 8/25/2002 at 2:26:32 AM
a friend put 700 X 34C tubulars (modern cycle cross) on ancient wooden rims as you describe, no guarantee but you may wish to try this arrangement. sincerely, paul

   RE:BALLOON:   Need info posted by sam on 8/26/2002 at 2:42:16 AM
phone# for Harper is 304-768-1147

AGE / VALUE:   love of bikes posted by: freddie on 8/23/2002 at 11:05:46 PM
I have always loved old balloon tire bikes. Last year I got a good deal on a early schwinn corvette.Nothing missing .but a lot of rust and rotton deat. Rims shot but for $10 I grabed it.Took it apar. Sand blasted and powder coated it at work It sat aside for about 2mo.About this time I was digging in a bicycle grave yard and found a springer fork and front fender with light for a phantom. Great . A repop horn tant from ebay and rear carrier from memory land . Chain guard from a local friend for $20.A set of decals and what a great looking bike. A little less that $200 a lot of woke and I have a great rider . Who cares if it is not org. I will never part with it.Now I bought a colson highway patrol. 1948 I great shap missing only the rocket raylight. Any place I can get one other than memory lane. They want $100 for one.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   love of bikes posted by Andrew on 8/24/2002 at 5:51:59 PM
Keep checking ebay for the Rocket Ray light, I found a decent one for $53. I don't like the repro's...stay vintage!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   love of bikes posted by Freddie on 8/26/2002 at 9:39:17 PM
Just got another old bike today that I can't find much on it. 24" balloon tire with fat fenders A large flat sided horn tank and truss rods Skip tooth and the chain ring looks like a monark flying teardrop one. prewar fender braces. It has been painted all over with red paint so no decals show but the headbadge was taped off. It says goodyear. Highway patrol. new departure hubs and chain tensioners. Noithing in the data base. What can anybody tell me about this bike? thanks Freddie