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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Wasp ID posted by: Devin on 12/4/2003 at 9:33:56 PM
I've got a girl's Wasp serial #827210. It's green and white with balloon tires and front/rear fenders. It weighs a ton. I'm trying to determine year of manufacture and estimated value. Any ideas or direction you could give me would be greatly appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Wasp ID posted by Rod on 4/28/2005 at 9:00:52 PM
The serial # on your Schwinn Wasp shows it was made in 1958. However, the month of manufacture is determined by the letter area of A-M (Schwinn never used the letter I in any serial #).

AGE / VALUE:   X53 Western Flyer posted by: Richard on 12/3/2003 at 8:47:14 PM
I have an original X53 Western Flyer (red and chrome) that I have owned since I was a child. I would like to find out the approximate value of this bicycle and will e-mail photos to anyone who would like to see them. The original tires have been replaced with black wall tires but they also need replacement. This bicycle has always been stored inside.

FOR SALE:   Schwinn Kids Bike posted by: tom on 12/1/2003 at 2:34:57 PM
schwinn kids bike. 10" seat tube, 18" tires. Complete, and ready for full restoration.

MISC:   Gambles Hiawatha posted by: Larry on 12/1/2003 at 2:32:31 AM
In 1950, for my 8th birthday, my dad gave me a "Cadillac" bike - a Hiawatha sold by the local Gambles. It almost new, a paperboy had failed to make his weekly payments and the store manager repo-ed the bike. It was top of the line: chrome rims, chrome fenders, chrome luggage rack, chrome springer fork, and a chrome rail around the rear of the seat. It had a chrome headlight and chrome crash bars at the front and rear. There was a tank (yes, chrome) with a battery powered horn. The chain guard was also chromed. I remember the only painted component was the black frame. It had ballon tires on 26" wheels and was too tall for my short legs. When I mounted up, I had to push it to a stump.

Have any of you ever found such a bike? Or, do you have any old literature showing this model?

   RE:MISC:   Gambles Hiawatha posted by Gordon on 12/1/2003 at 10:27:46 PM
It should be similar to my 1953 Hawthorne pictured in the database.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Gambles Hiawatha posted by Larry on 12/2/2003 at 1:12:38 AM
Your're right, the Hawthorne appears much as I remembered the Hiawatha. I didn't see the chrome rail on the seat, but you said the seat was not original. My Hiawatha had white sidewalls also. I forgot that detail.

Do you still own the Hawthorn? I would like a print of the photograph. Please email me at pspradley@myexcel.com

WANTED:   ANYONE KNOW JEFF? posted by: MAX on 11/30/2003 at 4:27:29 PM
does anyone know Jeff that has sent the picture of the Monark Silver King (1931-1940) in the picture database?
i would really like to get in touch with him for some question

tks all

   RE:WANTED:   ANYONE KNOW JEFF? posted by sam on 12/3/2003 at 2:29:52 AM
Max,silverkings didn't come with tanks,but they did have about everything else that could come on a bike.The list included silver ray horn light with battery tube,tool box seat,springer fork,alum bars,alum gooseneck,cross bar speedo in alum housing,alum fenders/stanless steel fenders,butterfly center drom stand--- did I leave out anything? (o locking fork too) or just plain with painted fenders.Best way to refinish is with buffing wheel ---sam

BALLOON:   Monark&Columbia For Sale posted by: Greg on 11/30/2003 at 1:07:29 PM
I have for sale 1951 Columbia with Good Year tank; repro chain gaurd and rear rack bike is complete and rides great needs paint. also late 40s or early 50s Monark with tank has Firestone head badge (that I put on)good rider amuture spray paint burgandy&gray both are 26" boys can send pic.if interested
Thanks Greg

   RE:BALLOON:   Monark&Columbia For Sale posted by Greg on 12/4/2003 at 3:55:09 PM
Both bikes have been sold.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   wtb horn unit for 63 jaguar slimline tank posted by: Eric law on 11/30/2003 at 2:35:32 AM
hi need horn unit mine wont work, tried new d battery, cleaned contacts nothing, anyone have one thanks Eric

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   wtb horn unit for 63 jaguar slimline tank posted by Greg on 11/30/2003 at 1:59:08 PM
I modified one that was for A phantom tank by removing the battery tray and switching to 2AA to fit 59 panther midweight tank

AGE / VALUE:   STILL MORE QUESTIONS posted by: Kevin K on 11/28/2003 at 7:53:54 PM
Hi all. Sorry to bore you but......... the Schwinn cantilever frame I have looks like hundreds of others I've seen. Nothing special. However as I'm removing the seat post and crankset I see how much rust exists on the AS bolt on the seat clamp, yet the clamp has none. It's simply dulled. Same on the crankset. Rust but the inner sleves that fit into the bottom bracket housing are not rusty, but dulled. I took a bit of steel wool to them. They cleaned up. I then polished them with polish for alloy/aluminum. They look as if they were chromed, but infact they are aluminum. Has anyone ever seen alloy seat post clamps and bearing races on middleweights? I've messed with alot of Schwinn bikes but I've never encountered alloy in those locations before. Thanks, Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   STILL MORE QUESTIONS posted by Steve on 12/19/2003 at 6:19:55 PM
Have you checked the parts with a magnet? Sometimes Cad plated parts look aluminum, this also prevents rusting.

AGE / VALUE:   aluminium Monark Silver King posted by: MAX on 11/28/2003 at 12:45:02 PM
please repond to this if you know the answer

does an aluminum Monark Silver King have any value
the bike is complete but is soso shape

some old man has one and i don't know if i should get it because it's a 40 minutes drive

tks Max

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   aluminium Monark Silver King posted by LUKE on 11/28/2003 at 4:17:14 PM
Hey freind,
That 40 minute drive will be well worth it......

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   aluminium Monark Silver King posted by max on 11/28/2003 at 5:23:53 PM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   aluminium Monark Silver King posted by gary m on 11/28/2003 at 6:38:51 PM
if the frame tubes are hex shaped its about the most valuable peice of bicycle there is. Despite others opinions.
even a round tubed one is a valuable peice. Dont ride it.
the construction joints can be all corroded inside, rendering it useless pile of tubes. should have a killer springer. most impressive peice polished to a gloss.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   aluminium Monark Silver King posted by max on 11/28/2003 at 8:53:50 PM
so at 75 $ even if it's in bad shape it's a go?

do you have any info on how to restore an aluminum frame like it
and is there supposed to be a tank on it and/or a headlight
where can i find these parts to restore
tks Max

AGE / VALUE:   BENDIX 2 SPEED MANUAL HUB posted by: Kevin K on 11/25/2003 at 8:18:32 PM
Hi all. In my quest to build up a nice but unusual Schwinn cantilever frame I've gone back and forth several times on the rear hub. Single speed coaster brake, 3 speed Sturmey Archer or a 2 speed Bendix manual shift hub. I've probally ruled out the SA hub. Next onto the single and 2 speed Bendix. Both hubs I've chosen need the housings rechromed. Who does good work rebuilding both coaster brake and 2 speed hubs please. Thanks, Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   BENDIX 2 SPEED MANUAL HUB posted by Gordon on 11/27/2003 at 2:47:51 PM
Those two hubs are almost identical on the inside and are very basic. I'm sure you could do a rebuild/overhaul by yourself. I could supply you with some diagrams and instructions if you want to give it a try. I also have most of the bearings you would need if yours are poor.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Goodrich posted by: Judy on 11/22/2003 at 8:25:50 PM
My husband just picked up a Schwinn bike. It also say BF Goodrich on the steering head (front of frame). It also says Phantom on the chain guard but he has only ever heard of Black Phantoms. It has very good original green paint, original balloon tires and seems to have original handle grips even though the handle bars have been replaced with "ape hangers". Also someone has cut the front and rear fenders and removed the tank. It's a men's bike - 26 inch. He thinks the seat may be original, but is confused because it says "Schwinn approved" instead of just Schwinn. The tire size is: 26-2125 and the serial number is: V69508.
Can anyone tell me what the year and value of this bike is? Is it worth restoring or do we just give it to our grandson?
Thanks for any help you can give us.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Goodrich posted by Judy on 11/22/2003 at 9:07:02 PM
After looking at the green Schwinn Phantom that sold on this site, we took stock of our bike again. The handle grips are green. The peddles look new, but don't say "Schwinn". The tires look original and do say BF Goodrich on them. The seat is brown and looks identical (including condition) to the one sold on this site.The emblem on the chain guard looks like it had a BF Goodrich sticker but that was covered with a Schwinn sticker, but both are hard to read. On the steering head it says "BF Goodrich Schwinn Built". It looks more like this bike has been cobbled up rather than used up. But all those idiosyncrasies might add up to enough to ruin the value of the bike. Any comments? Thanks.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Goodrich posted by elvis p. on 11/22/2003 at 9:31:59 PM
Dear judy,
What i can find is ,it,s surely a schwinn frame with the
date of the code you gave.The year,1956.
As far as the rest id have to view the bike.
Hey this is a start,ehhhh????
thank ya,very much.........

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Goodrich posted by Judy on 11/27/2003 at 4:24:56 PM
Thanks for the reply. You're right. We now know more than we did a few days ago. I don't know how to put a picture on the 'net, and I don't even know if they would allow that here, but if you wanted to give us a mailing address I would be glad to take pictures and mail them to you. Don't know if that would help, either. But we live in mid-Missouri and I doubt that you would be making a trip to see the bike "in person". Anything else I should look for and relay to you? I appreciate the help you have given us.

WANTED:   Spaceliner Hubs, Rack Reflector posted by: Daleman on 11/21/2003 at 12:11:56 AM
I just received a real nice, I mean real nice Sears 26 inch Deluxe Spaceliner I "won" on Ebay. A California bike, it is a 9 out of 10. But, I am missing the 4 "hub caps" and the tail light lense in the rear rack. Also some electronics in the front housing. Any help will result in money in your wallet. Over and Out, Will Robinson!

   RE:WANTED:   Spaceliner Hubs, Rack Reflector posted by Kevin K on 11/26/2003 at 2:15:28 AM
Hi. Cool bike. I collect Schwinn lightweights but lately have been given several middleweights. No Spaceliners though. Enjoy it.

AGE / VALUE:   nedd help on values if any posted by: max on 11/18/2003 at 4:00:26 PM
1st is a ladies Monarck Silver king w/ tank (light , horn) rear rack with light and original paint

2nd men Haythorne 54-61 tanker original paint

3rd mens Evans Special 50's tank , original paint



AGE / VALUE:   Collegiate posted by: Kid on 11/17/2003 at 5:08:09 PM
I have a Schwinn Collegiate in campus green, serial number is LJ546625, is that a 1973 bike? Don't really understand the serial number system, it is my favorite bike of many that I have, could someone please help? Thx

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Collegiate posted by Jim on 11/17/2003 at 11:57:14 PM
Hello Kid,
You are correct. That serial number would indicate a November 1973 manufacture. After 1964, the serial number will begin with 2 letters of the alphabet that shows the month and year made. For example, A=January, B=February and so on (skip the letter i). For the year, A=1965, B=1966 and so forth (skip the letter o). Hope that helped!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Collegiate posted by Kid on 11/18/2003 at 4:32:42 PM
Thx for your quick reply, it helped a lot, I have 17 old Schwinn's, just a neat hobby, nice to know the age of some of the bikes, thx

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Collegiate posted by Rod on 4/29/2005 at 7:52:56 PM
I have a '71 Collegiate in Campus Green as well, but sadly it was a bulk trash diamond-in-the-rough; by the way, according to your serial #, which is identical to my Heavy Duti, your 'leegee' is from October 1973.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwimm Spitfire posted by: Joe Baril on 11/17/2003 at 3:38:01 PM
I just got my hands on a Womans Schwinn Spitfire #F049678. 1st I am trying to get its year, the S/N as far as I can figure out is 1949 but that dosen't seem right, 2nd I am trying to figure out its value, its 100% original (nothing missing) from the seat & grips to the tires (which are in real good shape). The bike was greasy so the chrome is in real good shape. the frame has surface rust and the fenders are dented. dose any body have an idea. Thanks

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwimm Spitfire posted by gary m on 11/18/2003 at 5:43:08 AM
June 1960
sounds like a 20$ bike

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwimm Spitfire posted by gary m on 11/18/2003 at 5:44:45 AM
oops october.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwimm Spitfire posted by Kim on 11/27/2003 at 2:35:02 PM
Depends on where you live. If in a city or on a college campus or a tourist area, funky bikes like that will go for $100 and up.