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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   Help, identity or age? posted by: Matt on 7/22/2003 at 6:27:10 PM
Can anyone tell me what kind of bike or how old it is? Thanks!! Pictures of the bike are here: http://www.mattfranz.com/kelly

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help, identity or age? posted by sam on 7/23/2003 at 2:48:43 AM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help, identity or age? posted by Matt on 7/23/2003 at 2:12:52 PM
Do you know what model? Approximate age? Anything?

MISC:   More on the August 24th Northeast Bicycle Swap Meet posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 7/22/2003 at 3:35:56 PM
Here are some answers to the questions we're asked about the upcoming Northeast Bicycle Swap Meet on August 24, 2003 in Bloomfield, CT

Q: Is this swap meet associated with the Larz Anderson Show?
A: No, it is not part of the Larz Show. We set up this swap meet in response to changes in the Larz show. The organizers of this year's Larz show were critical of the past few year's "Flea Market" environment of the swap (using a photo of our shop truck loaded with old bikes as an example of what was _not_ wanted...). The Northeast Bicycle Swap Meet _strives_ to be a flea market environment. Lots of bicycles and parts in all states of condition. Good selection, good prices, free admission, cheap vendor space, food, music, etc.

Q: Can I bring cycles to show and display, but not to sell?
A: Certainly!

Q: It's being held at the New England Musclebike Museum. Does that mean the swap is focusing on Musclebikes?
A: No. It is open to all styles: Antique, lightweight, balloon, roadster, motorized, whatever. Bring what ya got. We have registrations from vendors in all categories.

Directions, registration form and more info at: http://OldRoads.com/swap

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.

AGE / VALUE:   Gambles Hawthorne Girls Bike posted by: Robin on 7/22/2003 at 1:32:20 AM
We just found a girls Gambles Hawthorne with a non visible springer front end. The springer is inside the neck. Anyone have any info on this bike?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Gambles Hawthorne Girls Bike posted by Gordon on 7/22/2003 at 12:40:27 PM
The bike was made by Shelby Cycle Co. of Shelby, Ohio. The concealed springer is called a "ShockEase". Introduced in 1941, they claimed it was designed to be free from tampering or corrosion. Bike production halted in 1942 due to the war and resumed in 1945. Kids didn't like the ShockEase because they wanted to see the shock absorbing action so Shelby designed the Shelby 3 way springer.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Gambles Hawthorne Girls Bike posted by Gordon on 7/22/2003 at 12:42:53 PM
I forgot to mention that if it is a Gambles bike it is a Hiawatha, if it is a Hawthorne it is a Wards bike.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   sears and roebuck tricycle posted by: mark on 7/21/2003 at 11:50:14 PM
i just got a sear@roebuck tricycle and the serial num# is 507-459851 just wanting to know if you might know what year it is and what it could be worth its a womans bike also. thank you mark

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Victory Bike? posted by: Andrew on 7/21/2003 at 10:59:12 AM
Before setting up at a flea market yesterday, I purchased a mens middle weight 26 X 1 3/8 tires", has a Arnold Schwinn headbadge, skip tooth. The interesting part is the black New Departure hub & brake arm (looks like factory black not repaint). Mid morning, a elderly man told me it was "Victory Bike" from the WWII war years. Any info on this appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Victory Bike? posted by Tom Findley on 7/21/2003 at 11:58:50 AM
Schwinn built 10,000 bikes per year from 1942-45, maybe for sale to the Government. I am not sure if civilians could buy them with a permit. They were painted olive drab with black parts instead of chrome.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Victory Bike? posted by sam on 7/22/2003 at 3:28:01 PM
With caution,I say gov. bikes built in WW2 were all ballooners.The gov wanted heavy duty bikes.Huffman and Columbia were granted the right to make linited numbers of civilian models all light/weight bikes.The victory models--with black out hubs etc were built in 1942 by all bike companies before the war dept stopped them from selling to the public.Also bicycle companies after the war started production up with the supplies on hand ---black out hubs etc.So your schwinn is most likely built in 1942 or 1946--sam

MISC:   Shipping my Columbia posted by: Eric on 7/20/2003 at 4:38:30 PM
Hey group,my first post here though have been lurking awhile.I just bought a bike in New York,an old Columbia tank bike,and need to get it shipped to Florida.The guy I bought it from mentioned using Greyhound Bus Lines.Is this possible?Do they offer insurance/tracking of my bike?Has anyone ever used this method and is it cheaper or more expensive then boxing the bike for UPS.I am not positive if he is going to box it for Greyhound or just give them the complete bike.I will be talking to him on Tues. about shipping,but just wanted to know if anyone had good/bad luck with this shipping method.All replies will be greatful.Thanks,Eric

   RE:MISC:   Shipping my Columbia posted by skip on 7/20/2003 at 11:18:48 PM
I'm having a bike shipped from Minnesota to California via Greyhound, boxed. UPS's wants $115 and Greyhound wants $60. Not sure if Greyhound offers insurance or not.

   RE:MISC:   Shipping my Columbia posted by Richard on 7/21/2003 at 1:15:01 AM
Now would you trust a complete stranger to put all of your classic bicycle in a box to ship?

   RE:MISC:   Shipping my Columbia posted by Trev on 7/22/2003 at 10:28:55 AM
I've always just used a bike box from a shop and shipped ups ground, usually less than $25. Only one in three million packages have a problem at UPS.

   RE:MISC:   Shipping my Columbia posted by Eric on 7/23/2003 at 11:51:00 PM
Thanks group for your info,I went with UPS and should have it soon!!!

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Flying Star posted by: Skip on 7/19/2003 at 10:41:19 PM
Hi, I have a 58 Schwinn Flying Star middle weight bike, and was wondering what exactly is a "Flying Star" "???? Also I have a ladies Schwinn pre 48' and on the headbadge is a plane on top, Schwinn logo in the middle and a train on the bottom.. Anyone here know what the siginificance of it means ??? Thanks in advance ... To view, click on the link below ... http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/bc/spy3636/lst?.dir=/58+Schwinn+..&.view=t

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Flying Star posted by skip on 7/24/2003 at 7:38:05 PM
Anyone ????????

AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Bike posted by: Coree on 7/17/2003 at 5:43:56 PM
I'm getting a green firestone bike and i was wondering how much it is worth. it looks like it's from the 50's and 60's era.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Additions to directory for Schwinn model identification posted by: Tom Findley on 7/16/2003 at 5:17:41 PM

I have added:
1946 catalog, in glorious black and white
1951 model and price list

1953-1965 models and price lists

1962 folded brochure
1963 folded brochure

The directory is:


MIDDLEWEIGHT:   AMF Roadmaster Skyrider posted by: Mike Ramsey on 7/14/2003 at 6:20:40 PM
I got some new imformation off of the skyrider it has trelleborg 26x1.75 tires on it I have never heard of this brand,I`m wondering if they may be the original tires?The bike is solid red fenders too.It has no carrier on the back or headlight or tank.I believe it is from the sixties but I`m not sure.When I got it the other day all I did was cleanit up and put air in the tires and took it for a ride.The number on the lower rear frame is 775976 the bike is in very good shape with only a few scratches in the paint the chrome is in very good shape.If anyone can help me date this skyrider and give some kind idea of the value I would really appreciate it.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   AMF Roadmaster Skyrider posted by DannyJoe on 7/16/2003 at 3:00:52 AM
Hey Mike, I have a AMF Skyrider hanging in the barn red in color with white pinstripes on the fenders, no tank, light's or rack. I figure mine is from the late 60's it has the BMA sticker on the seat tube. I believe the tire's are original I will look tomorrow and reply back on the brand name, but now I must sleep, s-l-e-e-p, s-l-e-e-p '''''''''

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   AMF Roadmaster Skyrider posted by Mike on 7/16/2003 at 3:55:59 AM
Thanks Danny,I appreciate the imformation.This bike is very nice I think I might save it tohand down to my grandson later on.

   RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   AMF Roadmaster Skyrider posted by DannyJoe on 7/17/2003 at 2:56:39 AM
I looked tonight at the Skyrider's tire's and they are Carlyle Zepher Flight's, I'm not 100% sure on originality. It has what I call a Fatfoam Troxel seat. Where is your SN located on your Skyrider? The rear hub and brake arm were Sachs componet's on my AMF which might put it at late '60's early '70's. I just sold a old AMF mint cruiser to a Grandfather to give to his grandson, the 14yr. old just love's it, the kid thought he would like to have his MTB jel saddle put on it but changed his mind after a ride on the vintage sprung seat. Have a nice ride!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   AMF Roadmaster Skyrider posted by Mike on 7/17/2003 at 6:34:45 PM
The number I found was on the left rear in the back at the rear hub.My skyrider has a shimono rear hub I don`t know what that means as far as age,it has the oldstyle squared off seat solid white with rivets around the side.It`s not too comfortable the didn`t seem that way forty years ago.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Heavy Duti, what year? posted by: Miguel on 7/14/2003 at 4:07:49 PM
I just bought a Schwinn Heavy Duti yesterday and was wondering on the possible age of it? It has a yellow frame, with black Schwinn and "heavy duti" stickers on it. The handlebars are longhorn style, with black grips. The grips also have a pad molded into them facing the rider. It's a cruiser frame, with stainless fenders. both fenders hang WAY down in back, almost past the 90 degree spot on the tire. The supports are V-shaped, two on each side of the bike. The tires look to be original, and have a flat almost dirt bike style block tread, Cheng Shin brand. The gooseneck has allen wrench bolts, so maybe not very old? The wheels have a knurled pattern through the spoke attachment area, and THICK spokes! I have a pic of the bike if anyone wants to take a look at it. A nighttime pic, but enough to see what it actually looks like. I'm thinking it may be a late seventies, early eighties bicycle, from the style of reflectors, etc. Has the three sided black plastic style with rusty mounts. SERIAL NUMBER starts out HE305. Kind of an interesting note, is that was used as a rental bike somwhere in the Houston/Galveston? area. Has a large metal tag welded to the frame, and the same number engraved on the rims. Thanks for any help you can give me. I would not sell it, but would like to know the age. It feels like the bicycle version of a Lincoln town car while riding. Solid and just has that "quality" feel about it. Makes my newer cruiser feel like junk, haha. Pic if you want to guess via e-mail?? Thanks again, Miguel

AGE / VALUE:   Amf roadmaster skyrider posted by: Mike Ramsey on 7/13/2003 at 1:50:14 AM
I bought a bicycle that belonged to my wife`s uncle today,it is a amf roadmaster skyrider serial#775976.Can anyone tell me how old it is and what kind of value it might have?I believe it has the original tireson it.It has a few scratches on it but cleaned up very nice.

WANTED:   Black Phantom parts posted by: MC on 7/12/2003 at 1:19:00 PM
This mornings headline: "Died in the wool roadie stumbles across 1950 Black Phantom at garage sale". Wonders never cease. Alas, I need a few parts if some of you ballooner guys can help me out. I'll need a correct saddle, rear wheel and possibly fenders (if I can't save these). No repops, please. Pics are a plus, and trades welcome (if you need any lightweight stuff, that is).

AGE / VALUE:   Attn CCM Fans posted by: Mike on 7/11/2003 at 11:17:13 PM
Chech out Ebay #2183149411

Looks like a CCM Flyte from the 30's to me although missing fenders....

AGE / VALUE:   Murray Monterey posted by: Eric Cook on 7/10/2003 at 10:45:24 PM
My father has a Murray Monterey with serial number U0813552, we are looking for any information regarding it's age as it is in mint condition with the exception of the dry rotted tires. Thank you in advance for your time.