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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   new departure model D posted by: wade on 8/31/2003 at 5:23:36 PM
i just acquired a monark silver king rocket which has a model D new departure hub.. does anyone know what years they made this hub... and does anyone know where to find a serial number on this bike?

AGE / VALUE:   Hawthorne one-speed posted by: herbert on 8/31/2003 at 10:49:35 AM
Wondering about this Hawthorne... a one-speed with caliper brakes. When were these built?.. & by whom?
(My other old Hawthorne has a MW on the shield & a Chicago 7, Illinois- so it's older than zipcodes, anyhow... a step-through... too short for me, though.) thanks for info.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hawthorne one-speed posted by Ken on 9/2/2003 at 5:29:10 PM
the MW is Mongomery Wards, and Hawthorne is their house brand name. There are some nice ones in the picture database. But I can't help with the question, Who made these? Cleveland? Huffy? Somebody will tell us. Caliper brakes?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hawthorne one-speed posted by Greg on 9/3/2003 at 11:27:55 AM
Hawthorne bicycles were made by either Cleveland Welding or H.P. Snyder. Snyder also made Rollfast and Monark among others. As for the caliper brakes, more info would be needed to determine the approximate year of mfg.

AGE / VALUE:   JC Higgins, What do I have? posted by: Steve on 8/31/2003 at 2:51:23 AM
I got this bike from a friend, but I dont know what year or value it has.. IT is a JC Higgins Girl's bike, which would need restored...is it worth it..? Serial number - 108739 www.quailwoodestates.org/Vintagebicycles.htm - Dark Green and white bicycle... Thanks in advance

WANTED:   Always Paying Cash posted by: bike@antiquebikeparts.com on 8/30/2003 at 10:36:27 PM
ALWAYS PAYING reasonable cash prices for balloon bikes, parts and dealer items. Reply with phone number and price- A pic is worth a thousand words! Please do not post but email bike@antiquebikeparts.com Directly.

AGE / VALUE:   murray posted by: geoff on 8/30/2003 at 5:14:15 PM
i am looking for any info on a murray "sonic flite" the #s on the frame are -mou 175826 50.... thanks for any help

AGE / VALUE:   Western flyer posted by: Ross on 8/30/2003 at 1:31:34 AM
Hi, I have a old western flyer girls bike, and I am trying to learn more about it how much it is and how old. We figure it is in the fifties perhaps 1956, 1958. The serial number is B73641-53 C with a W in it! Any information about how mych it may be worth and how old it is would be great



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western flyer posted by Gordon on 8/30/2003 at 12:32:22 PM
The CW is Cleveland Welding. Their own brand of bike was Roadmaster and they made many of the Hawthornes, Hiawathas, Western Flyers and others. If the tire width is 2.125, your bike is probably pre 1954. If it is 1.75 your guess of later 50's is probably correct. Look at the other CW bikes in the database for a similar bike to yours.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western flyer posted by Ross on 8/30/2003 at 10:29:28 PM
Thanks Gordon! I have been looking for a picture in the files simalar to it and cant find anything like it! I do know it is a western flyer that was solid through western auto supply, Thanks for the tire info I Will check it out, still tryin to figure if it is worth anything or not, got a yard sale coming up and wondering what to ask for it!!!


MISC:   Who's Going to Central Illinois Show/Swap?? posted by: Matt on 8/29/2003 at 4:07:15 PM
Central Illinois Show - Sept. 13-14 ---Spaces Still Available- Get Yours TODAY!!. I've got some nice spots left, would like to get them filled and have a better idea of how many will make it. Looks to be a great turnout of collectors and civilians. Contact me ASAP, First-Come, First Serve. I've still got indoor spots. There were 16 bikes sold to Non-collectors last year at this show, including a Cycletruck!! Let's make some new collectors and have a great weekend!!!

AGE / VALUE:   CCM RANGER SINGLE SPEED posted by: robert walker on 8/29/2003 at 1:01:26 AM

BALLOON:   Delta Rocket Ray Light posted by: Skip on 8/28/2003 at 4:16:23 AM
Now that I know what kind of light came on a 1950 Panther, does anyone happen to have one for sale at a reasonable price ?? Thanks ...

AGE / VALUE:   serial numbers for a western flyer posted by: wes on 8/27/2003 at 3:58:43 AM
can any one tell me where to look for a serial number chart for a western flyer ive one id like to know the year
the seaial number is under the crank houseing and it is
2919 h b w the tire goes in from the back on the drop out and has adjusting bolts also on the drop out thanks wes

AGE / VALUE:   Sears Flightliner posted by: Mitch on 8/27/2003 at 2:13:20 AM
I recently aquired an old Sears Flightliner (Girls). I purchased it from a sale at a local Church Convent, where it was one of several there for the Sisters to ride. This bike is original, with the exception of the seat and tires. The paint is good. the chrome is good, with specs of surfase rust only. It has no dents or bent parts. It looks to me as if it has never been left outside. I am wondering what it may bring, and where/how I can go about selling it. Thank you for any help!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sears Flightliner posted by Bobby on 8/27/2003 at 2:26:09 AM
E-bay, I just purchased a girls 26" JC Higgins Flightliner for $85.00, but it sounds like yours is nicer than mine so it may get a higher price, anyways check E-Bay and that will give you a good range of value for it.

BALLOON:   53"Roadmaster Luxury Liner posted by: Carter Kirkwood on 8/26/2003 at 6:10:13 PM
I recently purchased a 1953 Roadmaster luxury liner made by Cleveland Welding Co. The bike is complete but needs restoring. Does anyone know where I could find a book or manual specific to this bicycle. I want the correct decals and colors to be on this bike and the majority of the pictures I see on the internet are mis matched parts between 1952 - 1954.

   RE:BALLOON:   53 posted by gary m on 9/2/2003 at 6:43:12 PM
Lo and behold i saw one this weekend complely original unrestored. it has some odd features to include truss rods that flare way out to protect the hand caliper brakes. it has korean war era poor chrome all over it. is a 3sp sturmey archer. supposed to have a troxel saddle with a rail on back. simple chainguard. i maybe able to get pics of it as i know the collector that bought it. all the lettering and pinstriping is intact largely. and yes i am mad, because i missed it!!

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   53 posted by Carter on 9/3/2003 at 7:13:19 PM
That would be great if you could get pictures of that bicycle. It doesn't sound like what I have, but I could be way off. Thank you very much

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Roadmaster jet pilot posted by: Dave on 8/26/2003 at 12:26:58 AM
I have a Roadmaster "Jet Pilot" middleweight bike. It is AMF, built by cleveland welding co. Serial # B14612 G. It is a straight bar with a full horn tank. Can anybody give me the age of this bike? Thanks.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Roadmaster jet pilot posted by Bobby on 8/26/2003 at 2:27:27 AM
It's a wide range, but if its a staight bar, it the 50's. Probably toward the mid fifties, because in the late fifties and the early sixties they droped Cleveland Welding, turned it to AMF and went to the Cantilever Frame Design.

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Roadmaster jet pilot posted by dave on 8/27/2003 at 2:06:25 PM
Thanks for the info. This bike is in great original cond.. Any idea of value. No rust. Horn works. Great paint still. Rides perfect!

AGE / VALUE:   Ladies Panther bicycle posted by: James on 8/25/2003 at 9:35:59 PM
I have a friend with an older bicycle. It has a flat Panther ornament on the front fender,the rear fender has string webbing, it has a panther headbadge. There is a Single front brake that goes through the top of the front fender. It also has a single pedal rear brake. On the frame is "Panther Original". There is also a decal with:


There is a frame serial number of 981928. The Rear rim says made in Germany, there is a company "F&S"(sorry thats all I could get).

Can anyone tell me the maker and the year?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ladies Panther bicycle posted by gary m on 8/26/2003 at 4:02:21 PM
hub is a Fichtel & Sachs, its a good peice, front should be also. no idea on the rest.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ladies Panther bicycle posted by gary m on 8/26/2003 at 4:03:27 PM
hub is a Fichtel & Sachs, its a good peice, front should be also. no idea on the rest.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ladies Panther bicycle posted by James on 8/26/2003 at 11:37:08 PM
Thanks, that's a start, you wouldn't happen to know if they're still in business, would you?

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   80,s huffy ''catalina'' posted by: luke on 8/25/2003 at 9:27:17 PM
today i was given a complete 1980,s huffy[catalina]bike.
it is a womens bike,3 speed and is a champaine color.
has any one owned or seen one lately?
definant restoring here indeed.at least 10 years of abuse
sitting outside in the texas sun and rain.a little snow
thanks luke

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   80,s huffy ''catalina'' posted by doug on 8/26/2003 at 11:30:41 PM
Hi Luke I dont mean to be the bearer of bad news but an 80,s vintage huffy isnt worth a wooden nickle in any condition.not collectable and probably mass produced in tawain or china.If you want collectable bikes look for pre 70,s Schwinns ,Colombias shelbys etc the bikes youd find here in the pic database.If your in Love with this bike and want to restore it thats fine but as far as collectable or ever having a value I really doubt we will all live that long. blue skies doug

   RE:RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   80,s huffy ''catalina'' posted by luke on 8/31/2003 at 2:44:31 PM
thank you for your reply.im unsure what i will do with the
bike but most likely restore it.