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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   AMF posted by: Jan Smith on 4/6/2004 at 3:34:28 PM
Hi Guys, Would someone please help me find the year of an AMF roadmaster Discoverer ser. # u108251. Or tell me where I can look? Thanks, Jan

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Infomation posted by: James Newbury on 4/5/2004 at 7:04:33 PM
I have recently acquired a Western Flyer. I'm looking for infomation on it as to year, price and just general knowledge of it. It is red and white,has stars cut in the main spocket, fenders are red with white stripeing, seat is red on top white trim. Thanks for the help.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Infomation posted by sam on 4/8/2004 at 11:15:49 PM
Late 60 or 70s Murray of Ohio built WF.

MISC:   might need a little assistance posted by: Jim on 4/5/2004 at 1:30:20 PM
I am new in vintage bicycle collecting, and I am looking to make an offer on a 50's huffy dial a ride it is in really good shape but cant find much on the price...I really like it but not sure what is a reasonable offer. Could someone give a first timer a hand with this one please!!
Thank You!

   RE:MISC:   might need a little assistance posted by gary m on 4/8/2004 at 6:53:55 AM
no more then a new huffy, really. if its beat up and crummy its cheap. the better condition the more its worth. if the chrome is shabby, tires gone, etc, pass unless your just wanting to ride something.

   RE:RE:MISC: might need a little assistance posted by Rif on 4/9/2004 at 1:15:24 AM
Since When?!?!
The older huffy's are worth more than today's huffy's and the dial a ride certainly has come into it's own as a collectible bike!
No offense intended here, and I ask that you take none, but methinks you might still be living in the past and holding onto that age old grudge that if it's not Schwinn, Columbia, or whatever then it's crap. Not true my friend, not true at all these days.
Sure the Schwinns were better quality, but that does not take any validity away from the dept. store bikes as collectibles. No they are not worth the outrages prices some will pay for old columbias and the like, but they are still a great way to get into the hobby, to fix up, ride, and to enjoy.
But go ahead and keep telling yourself and others these falacies if you like as it will keep the prices down for folks like myself who enjoy ALL old bikes... *grins*
Take it easy,

   RE:MISC:   might need a little assistance posted by Jim on 4/10/2004 at 2:34:28 AM
Thanks for the advice I am willing to take sides with Rif here...I still need to make an offer....what should I offer...what are they worth?

   RE:RE:MISC: might need a little assistance posted by Rif on 4/10/2004 at 3:34:48 PM
To be honest I really am unsure of the value, but I'd say start at a low offer and go up from there if they don't take it. I wouldn't go much over 100 - 150 depending on condition, but that's me personally (I'm a bargain hunter so...). It also depends on how much you like the bike! I've paid more than I should have on a couple of bikes but that was because I just fell for the bikes hard and had to have them. A Dial-A-Ride will also have a higher value than your usual huffy's like my 57 Customliner Deluxe which I paid 100 for (one of the ones I just had to have!). Try starting out at 30 - 50 and see if they bite...
My buddy has an old rusty mercury (built by Murray) in his shop that he'll let go for 100. Springer, tank, rack etc. This is probably equivalent to the Huffy you mention...
Good Luck and Let us know how it comes out!

   RE:RE:RE:MISC: might need a little assistance posted by Jim on 4/13/2004 at 12:42:39 PM
Thanks Rif...I guess I go from here...I appreciate the assistance!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: might need a little assistance posted by rif on 4/14/2004 at 12:36:25 AM
No Worries, glad to help.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask!

   RE:MISC:   might need a little assistance posted by John Metz on 4/16/2004 at 12:04:23 AM
I think Rif's advice on price sounds good. Old bikes
like old cars were built to varying degrees of quality.
I found one old Murray and bought another one for $15 and
then got really interested in Murray in part because not
a lot a info can be found so every snippet of info I dig
up is like treasure. Its mostly what catches your eye or
falls into your hands. I love all old bikes. To each his own!

BALLOON:   Model? posted by: Harvey on 4/4/2004 at 5:39:54 PM
I have a Schwinn frame complete that I would like to sell but I would like to identify the model first. The serial# is D213274. All I know from that is that it was manufactured in April of 1962. How do I ascertain the model?

AGE / VALUE:   Taylor tricycle posted by: Tim on 4/3/2004 at 11:44:20 PM
Does anyone know where I can find information on an antique Taylor Tricycle?

FOR SALE:   Sear's Spaceliner For Sale posted by: Adrian Rollini on 4/3/2004 at 7:39:12 AM
Hello, I have a Sears Spaceliner for sale. It's a 26" men's and it's complete. It has the tank, the headlight lens (cracked unfortunately), fenders, chainguard, sprocket and cap, original black and white pedals, luggae rack, and springer front end. The seat is not original- it's an old Person's crash-rail saddle that was poorly recovered. If anyone is interested, give me a shout!

   RE:FOR SALE:   Sear's Spaceliner For Sale posted by edgarecks on 4/5/2004 at 5:13:29 PM
There was a bass saxophone player named Adrian Rollini in the 1920s-30s (his brother Art played tenor sax). Any relation? Just wondering.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Sear's Spaceliner For Sale posted by Adrian on 4/5/2004 at 10:10:59 PM
Looks like I've been caught! The name Adrian Rollini is merely a handle I use on the net, HOWEVER, I am a tremendous fan of Adrian and his music- glad to see someone else out there is as well!

   RE:FOR SALE:   Sear's Spaceliner For Sale posted by Jason on 4/7/2004 at 5:11:41 PM
Can I get a picture of the bike? What city are you in?

   RE:FOR SALE:   Sear's Spaceliner For Sale posted by rentarat@wt.net on 4/20/2004 at 10:17:54 AM
Hi: Looking for spaceliners. How about pict. and price. Arvid

   RE:FOR SALE:   Sear's Spaceliner For Sale posted by Mike on 6/4/2005 at 8:54:18 PM
Is the spaceliner still available? Can I get photos? Price? Where is it located? Thanks.

BALLOON:   Rollfast posted by: Rif on 4/1/2004 at 1:21:46 AM
Hey all,
I was wondering if anyone had any history on Rollfast. I believe they were originally part of Overland in the 1890's (?)
I just picked up a Rollfast ballooner that I believe to be between '54 & '57, so I'd like a little historic overview of the company before digging into this project...

   RE:BALLOON:   Rollfast posted by Gordon on 4/1/2004 at 8:42:04 PM
Hi Rif, email me your US Postal mailing address and I'll send you photocopies of the Rollfast articles from Classic Bike. By the way, do you still need that 28 inch fork of mine?

   RE:RE:BALLOON: Rollfast posted by Rif on 4/2/2004 at 2:22:49 AM
Thanks Gordon,
I just sent you an e-mail.
No I do not need the forks, that project went in a different direction than originally planned; but thank you so much for the offer, I do appreciate it very much.

AGE / VALUE:   Need to vent posted by: Tim on 3/31/2004 at 2:39:02 PM
I`m having a major run of bad luck-got ripped on my spoke replacment.Then went to an old guys house to pick up some tires for 26/175 m/w that I rebuild and sell (to support my balloon tire habit)he`s got about 60 tires brand new for 3 bucks each brand new wrapped in plastic so I asked where he got so many and he goes on to tell me he`d recently bought a whole bunch of stuff for an old lady in a nearby city who s late husband had owned a schwinn shop way back when./When I asked if I could take a look at the other "stuff".He informed me had sold it all a few weeks before.
I deal with this guy all the time ,he`s retired,goes around to all these sales and is always finding these deals our deal is ;when he finds old "stuff" that is Schwinn or balloon he would call me so I don`t know what happened this time.Anyway I just missed .A Hornet missing tires(big deal-tires )2other springer frames missing wheels several brand new Sting-Ray parts and the killer a Jaguar that she had kept in her house complete and original.He was proud to tell me he got 100.00 for the Jag twice what hed paid for it
Man - Thats all I can say - Damn it

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Need to vent posted by Chris on 3/31/2004 at 10:09:37 PM
I understand completly. Been there, been thru it myself. I call it "codger-itis"

Are your eyes twitching?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need to vent posted by Tim on 4/1/2004 at 1:51:31 PM
I would have have been better off not knowing,anyway I`m "much better now"

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need to vent posted by Mike on 4/7/2004 at 12:59:10 PM
I was at a garage sale last yr and this guy was rolling out a 1936 Schwinn motorbike. this bike was loaded, it was in a 9 out of 10 condition. I asked what he paid for it and said 35.00. I offered him 500.00 and he wouldnt sell. This bike was not restored, all it needed was tires, from sitting in the same spot for yrs. The old man died that owned it and the grand childern didnt know what it was worth. He kept it in the living room and cleaned it once a year. Now that is a heart breaker.

BALLOON:   Fleet Wing bicycle posted by: marc on 3/30/2004 at 3:23:59 PM
hey there all. I made a nice find this morning, for 5 dollars I bougt an old fleet wing bicycle. It's a balloon tire bike, tires in great condition, coke bottle grips, wide "steer" handlebars, truss forks, skip tooth sprocket. Looks like it had a fender light. The paint is in pretty good shape as well as the seat. It's a straight bar bike like a dx. The weird thing about this bike are the rear drop outs. They are facing away from the bicycle and they have adjusting screws in them. I've never seen this on a balloon tire bike. I'm guessing its from the 40's but if anyone else knows better please let me know. I've never heard of this brand before, anyone know if it is a rebadged schwinn, columbia, etc? How about value?


   RE:BALLOON:   Fleet Wing bicycle posted by marc on 3/30/2004 at 9:56:52 PM
some update info on this bike. I posted some pictures in my yahoo briefcase in a folder titled fleet wing: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/samadamsfavbrew98/my_photos

the rear hub is a morrow. The fenders have a ridge down the center, the front tire is a U.S. Royal Chain made by the U.S. Rubber Company the rear is an IRC. Also the seat post is an L shape, as most posts are simplya a straight peice the top of this one bends like an L.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   Fleet Wing bicycle posted by Joel on 3/30/2004 at 10:09:44 PM
That looks like a Cleveland Welding Co bike. The L seatpost and rear facing dropouts are typical of bikes made before and shortly after WWII. If the Morrow hub is original, it will have a date code (one letter, one number) The letter is the year (A=1930,...)

   RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Fleet Wing bicycle posted by marc on 3/31/2004 at 5:42:28 PM
So I checked the morrow hub and the letter was either an "I" or a small "l". I can't quite tell. So am I then correct in saying that this dates the hub to either 1938 or 1941?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Fleet Wing bicycle posted by Joel on 3/31/2004 at 7:41:20 PM

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:BALLOON:   Fleet Wing bicycle posted by marc on 4/1/2004 at 1:21:42 AM
Just in case anyone is interested I put this bike up on ebay today. Here is the item number: 2235860533 If anyone has any questions please feel free to email me.

AGE / VALUE:   '49 DX or Excelsior? posted by: Chris on 3/30/2004 at 5:17:41 AM
I have a '49 Schwinn F229xxx 26" mens. I called it a straight bar, however the bottom bar isn't flat, there is an arc in it.
I have looked at pictures and it could be a DX or Excelsior.
No fenders, different crank, has springer, chrome S2s. Are DX and Excelsior frames the same? How can I identify? Thanks

AGE / VALUE:   schwinn excilsor posted by: steve on 3/30/2004 at 1:34:00 AM
i have a schwinn excilsor serial# h55... which would leave me to beleive it a 1953. were they made that year?i thought they were all post war.the only place it reads AS is the head badge.also i am resoring it and want to know what was originaly chromed its to hard to tell.do i just beed blast the nuts and bolts, and kick stand gear, or do i need to put some kind of plateing or finish on it?

AGE / VALUE:   Aquarius? posted by: Adrienne on 3/29/2004 at 11:22:51 PM
I bought this bike at a thrift store because I looked the retro look it had. I honestly can't seem to find any info on it anywhere and was hoping maybe someone could point me in the right direction or tell me something about it.

It's a violet/indigo women's bike with cream coloured seat, handle grips, and brake lines.

I have pictures available since I'm not knowledgeable of bikes and am probably leaving quite a bit out.


Thanks for your help!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Aquarius? posted by Adrienne on 3/29/2004 at 11:29:19 PM
oops. That should be a tilde before oriet.


AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Speed Cruiser posted by: Rick Lynch on 3/29/2004 at 9:55:46 PM
I have a Firestone Speed Cruiser. It has the Two top bars the run up past the head tube. Does anyone know anything about this bike? What year it is and maybe what its worth? There is no rust and it is all original even the tires. The only flaw is the stickers are starting to seperate.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Firestone Speed Cruiser posted by Mike on 4/7/2004 at 1:01:20 PM
the bike is a Monark. if you send me pics i could tell you the yr and a guess on the value.

BALLOON:   Schwinn Henderson posted by: Mike on 3/29/2004 at 6:49:49 PM
Anyone familiar with the Schwinn Henderson model? I have one that I figure is from the mid or late 1930s that I got from my grandpa's barn. Headbadge has a spinning propeller design, art deco stem with a T letter stamped on the sides.

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Henderson posted by Kim on 3/29/2004 at 9:22:43 PM
You got a good one there.
Motorcyle collectors will want it, too.

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Henderson posted by Marc on 3/31/2004 at 6:33:50 AM
How bout some pic's? Would love to see it.

BALLOON:   Need 24" balloons for Columbia posted by: milo on 3/29/2004 at 5:08:05 AM
Hey, I have just found a 1952 Columbia for my wife, but it needs 2 new 24" balloon tires. Can anyone help me out with some direction. I'm new to this restoration process !!! Thanks. This is a great wed site

   RE:BALLOON:   Need 24 posted by marc on 3/31/2004 at 6:40:09 AM
I have a pair of new 24 X 2.125 Ballooner tires for sale. Email me. Your email is bouncing. Click on my name after the message header. Peace, Marc