This is an archive of Vintage Bicycle Information.
For current Discussions, go to our main site: OldRoads.com

If you are trying to determine the genealogy of your bicycle by it's features, go to our Vintage Bicycle Price Guide
which details bicycle features, wheel sizes, brake types, etc., as well as showing a price estimate for your old bicycle.

If you are trying to determine the make and model of your bicycle, go to our Vintage Bicycle Picture Database
which details bicycle features, wheel sizes, etc., as well as showing a price estimate for your vintage bicycle.

Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   age/value posted by: ken on 5/11/2004 at 2:38:14 AM
cant find much info. on green ladies bike with horn and light. also front tire has 2 supports .headbadge reads cadillac . some say schwinn bike others say car dealership giveaway. would like to know if any value to bike and age.tire size 26"+ 2.125 i also read a bike with an auto or motorcycle brand is worth more than a comparable model. any truth to this ? thanks for any help.

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   age/value posted by Ken on 5/20/2004 at 6:21:07 PM
There are Schwinn-built Cadillac bikes; I would expect to find the Schwinn Chicago logo on the seat tube, and the Schwinn name on the tank, chainguard and/or downtube. Also look for an S or an AS on the seat post binder bolt head. Some retailers bought bikes from Schwinn and other suppliers. I don't know who badged the Cadillac. I think Schwinns and Schwinn-builts are pretty similar in value, all else being equal, but the Cadillac name might enlarge the potential buyer base.

FOR SALE:   Spring Cleaning posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 5/10/2004 at 12:06:06 PM
We need to make room for an upcoming purchase and have reduced prices on our inventory posted on OldRoads.com.
Click on "Bicycles for Sale" at the top of this page. There's a Schwinn Jaguar in there.

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.

BALLOON:   Help with New Departure coaster hub posted by: Ted on 5/9/2004 at 1:41:13 AM
Help, please. I just purchased what I believe is a skip tooth 26 inch ballon tire Columbia from the 1940's with a New Departure coaster brake hub. I disasembled the hub today and found the outermost bearing had some broken ball bearings. Will standard same size ball bearings from a bike shop just pop back into the bearing holder or must I somehow find a new bearing and if so does anyone out there have one or know where I can get one? Like wise for the rear spokes....They are 10 1/2 inches long. I need to replace mant broken ones. They seem to be the same length as on modern 26 inch cruser...are they standard or must or must I hunt for special rear spokes? Any hints for reassembling this hub? Thanks. Ted

   RE:BALLOON: Help with New Departure coaster hub posted by Rif Addams on 5/9/2004 at 3:42:15 PM
Hi Ted,
Sounds like a real Kool Kruiser you've goten yourself into.
I have some New Departure parts; perhaps we can arrange something to get you on your way. Please email me; be sure to put "New Departure" in the heading otherwise I'll just delete it as junk mail.
As far as your spokes, go down to your L.B.S. (local bike shop) with one of the good spokes and they should be able to help you out.
Keep the Tire Side Down,
Good luck with that Columbia.

AGE / VALUE:   Pre War Schwinn Ballooner posted by: Steve on 5/6/2004 at 4:12:02 AM

I have a pre-war schwinn frame that I'm trying to date and was curious to know what manufacturing characteristics are telling of year or period?? For example, there is not a traditional seat post clamp, rather the clamp bolt mounts are part of the frame. Also, the seat stays fuse into one tube that joins to the seat tube...etc. etc. Any help I can get will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again,


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pre War Schwinn Ballooner posted by Joel on 5/7/2004 at 4:47:56 PM

You will find a link here to pre 1948 features.

BALLOON:   Pre War Western Flyer Parts Hunt posted by: Steve on 5/6/2004 at 4:05:54 AM

I have a 1938 Western Flyer that is missing fenders, rear carrier and tank. I was curious to know if other manufacturers parts of the same era would fit this bike?? I appreciate any help I can get and if you have parts that would fit this bike and are looking to sell them let me know.



   RE:BALLOON:   Pre War Western Flyer Parts Hunt posted by gary m on 5/6/2004 at 2:42:57 PM
i am restoring one too same age. looks similar to others am sure its a cleveland welding bike. i have a ladies prewar roadmaster i am going to kill for parts.

AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by: Kevin K on 5/5/2004 at 2:04:16 AM
Hi all. Checking for my neighbor lady. She needs to know what a JC Higgins bought new for her in 1950-1951 is worth. It's a 24" tire girls frame. Fenders are very nice as are the white painted rims. Otherwise, condition is fair but still not too bad on a 50 plus year old bike. Thanks, Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by gary m on 5/6/2004 at 12:40:24 AM
I estimate the value of that machine to be approximately 0.00 why? 1 its a 50s midweight. 2 its ladies 3 its 24 in 4 its a Higgins so we already know its from a sears catalogue.
5 collecting antique bikes is a nearly defunct hobby. 6 servicing that bike and replacing the tires exceeds the cost of a brand new huffy. 7 nobody would ride it if you did service it. 7 it costs more then its worth to ship it anywhere. 8 Try putting it by the curb and see if anyone steals it. doubt it. hope that fairly well describes its value. 9 I have a very nice ladies late 40s Hawthorne 24in in decent condition, anyone with dissenting opinion kindly send me about 40 per shipping and 20 bucks and its yours. I BET I HAVE IT A LONG TIME!!!!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by Kevin K on 5/6/2004 at 11:41:50 AM
Hi Gary. I've attempted several times to tell people these bikes, along with most others, are worthless. But do they listen. Nope. Why? Because someone without a clue told them it should be worth ALOT. So I tried. Thanks, Kevin

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by JC on 5/6/2004 at 1:32:52 PM
There's an incredible market for those kinds of bikes on college campuses and some cites. People buy them not as a collectible but as a simple and reliable rider that has some 'flare' to it.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by gary m on 5/6/2004 at 2:38:19 PM
I run a bike shop in a town with a large university. Those kids wouldnt be caught dead on a bike like that. IN FACT, 2 yrs ago a local charity sponsored a ride on the local paved trail. they asked us if we would loan some bikes. No problem its smooth pavement. we tuned up 6 nice older bikes. the students arrrived. they looked at us like we was trying to feed them dog food. they told us that unless they got nice new mountain bikes {free use} they would rather walk.
i have heard that BS about selling older bikes in college towns before and thats all it is. in 5 yrs here i put 1 59 Schwinn cantilever out to a student. Enrollment is 15,000.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by marc on 5/6/2004 at 4:18:05 PM
I do agree that what hurts this bike is that it only has 24 inch tires. But similar full size bikes can bring a price of almost 100.00 I live in chicago and I myself am in college and I can tell you that many people around my age are starting to ride vintage bikes. They may not ride them because they are collectable but because its becoming a trend and its becoming hip. I've made some money on the side selling low end vintage bikes locally and on ebay. It's all about finding the right market. I sold a jc higgins girls bike with a tank (26 in) for 10.00 on ebay. A similar bike I sold locally for 75.00 I've sold varsities for 60.00

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by Max on 5/6/2004 at 6:41:34 PM
your in the wrong town Gary,obviously preppy kids won't like them but down to earth kids all want to ride them
because here i could easily sell this bike for 175-225$ to kids what would love to ride an antique bike. there is a huge market for them no matter how crappy they look................the older the better forthem......i've sold many last summer and i will again this summer. they even pay to get them serviced ......... so keep on putting your bikes in the trash Gary and i will pick them up
P.S where is your "bike shop"?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by gary m on 5/6/2004 at 10:57:40 PM
tossed out here means cut up with a skilsaw to the scrap yard. you claim you get this money yet put up one on ebay. go for it
225 out of a ladies 24in your either onto something or on something. i havent got a bid twice on a ladies prewar roadmaster 26 in rideable condition original paint complete.
opened at $35
25 in is worth less then half that. now how much for tires and tubes?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by John Metz on 5/7/2004 at 10:52:05 PM
Just a thought. If the price of gasoline keeps going up
it won't matter what kind of bike it is,it'll sell.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by Kim on 5/7/2004 at 11:32:21 PM
I'm with Max on this one. Here in Philly where it's flat and the best way to get around is by bike those old single and three speed bikes with fenders go for decent money. And if you think about it, they are pretty good transportation! And they're simple to repair and maintain.

Ditto on the gas prices, too. I think people are going to start using bike baskets again.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by rif addams on 5/8/2004 at 4:18:08 PM
First of all , keep telleing yourselves it's not worth anything, that keeps the prices low for me!
Second, it's not a mid weight if it is 1950-1951.
Yeah, the value will be lower due to wheel size and step through frame, but to say it's worth nothing is B.S.
Just because YOU aren't interested in it doesn't make it worthless or scrap. I would estimate (in my local) somewhere in the neighborhood of 75.00 for it; depending upon overall condition of course.

   fact vs fiction posted by gary m on 5/9/2004 at 1:11:33 AM
they dont bring squat on ebay. it costs avg 35 to ship a bike like that in the usa. I cant get a $35 bid on a similar product in 26 in wheels. that adds up to $70
now you say they will bring $75. thats your story. mine is proven nationwide. and your just jaw jacking. have you seen the new $40 huffy bikes? tell me you want to drag around a 45 lb clunker. post an auction number of a 24 in ladies bike doing anything. or a 26 for that matter. my 63 Ladies Eldorado no saled at $35 so many times i threw it out back and it has since rotted into junk. was a beautiful bike, no rust, only thing it needed was the rare headlight lense for the near perfect tankset. tires etc, all great. and here you blow again telling the world you know for a fact what they are worth. how about i sell you every ladies antique bike i have for $40 each? Jump big guy thats 35 dollars profit per unit!!

   RE:fact vs fiction posted by Rif on 5/9/2004 at 4:10:04 PM
Hey Gary,
I wasn't talking e-bay. I just meant that localy person to person that bike could grab around (roughly) 75.00.
I'm not "Jaw Jacking", just talking about what I've seen around here.
E-bay, like ANY type of auction, is completely unpredictable.
I've gotten some great deals as a buyer and not so much as a seller.
Furthermore, just because you are bitter about the current economic climate and not being able to make it with bikes doesn't give you the right to attack me. I didn't ship all of our jobs overseas and make the economy go into the toilet. I didn't jack the prices of gasoline to 2.19 a gallon.
I'm just as bad off as the next guy. I'm making half of what I used to due to Boeing pulling out of here and out-sourcing their manufacturing. Do you think I'm any more thrilled about losing my livelyhood? Do you believe I enjoy cleaning up after drunks, junkies, pimps, and whores at a local motel when I used to machine aerospace components?!?!
C'mon man, we're all in a bad way right now and the only way we can survive is to pull together, not attack each other. By this behavior you are only playing right into the hands of those above that are responsible for all this mess.
I would love to buy out all of your bikes and parts, but because I now earn 9.00 an hour instead of 15.00 I'm struggling to keep a roof over my head and food on the table. I have to save up a few bucks here and a few bucks there to buy a part once in a while. I'm also still paying off my creditors for the George Wyman Centennial Recreation from last summer.
So keep your bitter commentary and insults to a minimum, as you have not lived in my area to know what an old bike will, or will not (as the case may be), fetch; and you have not walked in my boots to know what my situation is like.
In short-
Dude, chill out...
Good luck with the motorcycles and take it easy,

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by reid on 5/14/2004 at 12:10:45 AM
Beautifuly put there, rif. stand strong bro.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: NEED ESTIMATED VALUE posted by Rif on 5/14/2004 at 3:03:19 AM
Thanks. I was trying to be somewhat diplomatic as I'm not looking for a fight, but just wanted to state my perspective of things.
My roomate wants to see pics of some of these bikes as she collects step-through (ladies) more than standard (men's) bikes. She is also only 5'1" so the 24" bikes really appeal to her as being more rideable.
If they are as stated she would probably purchase at least the Hawthorne; possibly more.
But after that exchange I'm not sure how to approach Gary about it.
Anyway thanks for the compliment and support,

FOR SALE:   Mid 50s Huffy M/F 5 post tandem for sale posted by: Gary Main on 5/4/2004 at 9:50:10 PM
this is one of those funny Male/female jobs, the front half is a canitlever frame male, with the same tubes swinging down into the female twin tube design. was a rental on Mackinac Island for yrs and is in real good condition. Its a Daisy model, says Daisy, Daisy, on the chaingaurd with the musical notes signs. has 5 upright posts, neck, first seat post, seperate post for rear handlebars, support post lower center ladies section and then ladies seat post. real long too. good midweigth rubber chrome nice, its quite good shape for its age. i didnt get the seats, its got later comfort seats on it, but i may have a matching set of correct huffys seats here. listening to all offers.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Mid 50s Huffy M/F 5 post tandem for sale posted by dave on 5/12/2004 at 7:24:08 AM
Do you have pictures? I can give you my other email with the larger storage capacity if you want to email pictures.

   RE:FOR SALE: Mid 50s Huffy M/F 5 post tandem for sale posted by Johnny on 5/28/2004 at 3:15:08 AM
hey, i have a huffy daisy tandem, found it in the garage, good condition for such an old bike. how much do you think it would sell for? i plan to restore it... email me please...

AGE / VALUE:   late 30ss schwinn posted by: Joe on 5/4/2004 at 5:00:43 AM
for sale late 30ss schwinn boys straight bar bike truss rods and Packard head badge 150.00 plus shipping thanks

AGE / VALUE:   Bendix and Perry coaster brake hubs for sale posted by: Chip on 5/3/2004 at 7:40:57 PM
Looking for a Bendix or Perry coaster brake?
They're cheap!

Item #'s
and 2242349324

AGE / VALUE:   1937 monarch silver king posted by: derek on 5/2/2004 at 1:52:41 PM
Hi I have a 1937 mens monarch silver king complete except for the kickstand and battery tube top as far as I can tell . It has been stored in a barn for 45 yrs needs some chrome work . Great looking bike any ideas on value ? Kovel's had one in thier 2000 guide . Any help would be appreciated . derek

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Meteor posted by: Duke Hagestrom on 5/1/2004 at 5:52:34 PM
Can you help my get more info on the following bike (price, year, etc.): Schwinn Meteor, Serial Number A75992, Green and Black, 26x2.125 tire, Men's Frame, No tank, medium number of scratches. Thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Meteor posted by Gordon on 5/3/2004 at 12:24:45 PM
Presuming the serial number is on the left rear dropout, your bike is a 1952. Similar bikes that I have sold have brought $75 to $150.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Meteor posted by Rod on 4/28/2005 at 7:40:33 PM
According to the serial # areas of the following: A01370-A87593 may place your Schwinn to 1951, and A00001-A99999 may place it to 1953.

BALLOON:    Local Balloon tire Riders posted by: jim catania on 5/1/2004 at 3:57:16 PM
I'm looking for local balloon tire bike collectors who want to ride their bikes. I live in woburn, ma. Come on and lets show them off!

   RE:BALLOON:    Local Balloon tire Riders posted by Wes on 5/22/2004 at 6:29:05 PM
Hey, I'm living in Burlington, VT right now, but if there was a set date for a group balloner ride, I would be more than happy to come down. I just bought a late 30's Elgin with lots of "patina" and "character." All of my friends are like "You payed money for that?" I'd love to ride with a group of appreciators!

AGE / VALUE:   CORVAIR CATALINA CRUISER posted by: Amy on 4/26/2004 at 3:06:10 AM
I just bought this bike. It has a tank and two tiny built-in headlights on the front. I'm not very savvy about bike knowledge, but it's a really cool thing. Does anyone know anything (value/year). There are no 'corvair catalina cruiser' sites anywhere online. Thank you!

   RE:AGE / VALUE: CORVAIR CATALINA CRUISER posted by Ken on 4/29/2004 at 2:24:47 PM
uh-oh, another case of "it's a really cool thing" disease. Most of us have it.
You should take a few digital pictures. I'd like to see it; I'm not familiar with the model name, but might be able to help track it down.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CORVAIR CATALINA CRUISER posted by Chris on 5/4/2004 at 6:51:52 PM
Huffy made a bike named Corvair in the mid-1960's, and it had a tank with two lights like you described. Is the 'Catalina Cruiser' name on the bike also? That doesn't sound correct to me.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   CORVAIR CATALINA CRUISER posted by nic on 11/15/2004 at 2:36:30 AM
i too have a old bicycle with "corvair" written on the tank, on the chain guard it says "thunderbird"?
anyone got any feed back on that?

AGE / VALUE:   Triumph Bicycles made in U S A posted by: Phil Randler on 4/25/2004 at 3:45:14 PM
I have two baloon tire Triumph bicycles, in excellent condition, That I inherited from my uncles. These bicycles were assembled at the Excelsior Bicycle Co in Michigan City In, I believe some time inthe 1930, or early 1940. My uncles came in possion of them when they worked for the Rail Road around that time, and they always refered to them as R R Bicycles. They are very heavy duty, with reinforcement bars across the handlebars and were obviously made for carrying some weight. They also are 3speeds, with the shifter on the top frame rail between your legs. If anyone knows more about these bicycles? Please let me know so I can solve this mystery. Thanks Phil. Ps ( I thought that they might have been British Triumph assembled here during ww2, but the emblem is different, but the name is spelled the same).

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Triumph Bicycles made in U S A posted by sam on 4/27/2004 at 3:20:38 AM
Railroads used bikes for messengers and call-boys in the teens-tru the 1950s.Please take a look at the rear hub and let us know the brand(new-departure,Sturmey/archer.Or other?)

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Deluxe American posted by: Jason Williams on 4/25/2004 at 12:46:24 PM
I just picked up a Schwinn Deluxe American at a yard sale. Looking through the books and this web site, I'm not finding many pictures to compare it to. Mine is missing the chain guard. Does any one know if I'm looking for a chromed one, or a painted one like the 'standard' American?

   RE:MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Schwinn Deluxe American posted by bob on 4/28/2004 at 3:31:13 PM
painted, hockeystick style.