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Archived: Balloon Tire and Middleweights

AGE / VALUE:   What is it??!!?? posted by: Jerry on 7/18/2004 at 9:26:52 AM
I have recently located what I believe to be a 1940's to 50's Balloon Bicycle. The name on the name plate is PERRY and it was sold at a store in town that has been out of buisiness for quite awhile. The original color appears to have been EMERALD GREEN or something close to it with white striping/graphics. The leather saddle was manufatured by PERSONS COMPANY, Wooster Mass. It has GOODYEAR ALL WEATHER TIRES (Balloon Type) and a /_\ type kickstand. Appears to be COMPLETELY original. There is alot of surface rust but the bike is very solid. Can anyone help me with identifying this bike and possibly a value (roughly because value is in the eye of the buyer). I could not locate a serial number on this bike. Checked everywhere I could think of unless I missed somthing. HELP!!??!!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What is it??!!?? posted by sam on 7/20/2004 at 1:07:47 AM
My first question in:where does it say Perry? If on the brake Arm at the rear hub then you have a Perry made in england hub--they were used on a lot of American Bikes.If you mean the name Perry is on the headbadge ,?? I'm clueless.
You would need to compair the front sprocket to others and maybe tell the make that way----sam

BALLOON:   ShokEase Fork posted by: Gus Ruhnke on 7/18/2004 at 4:08:07 AM
Just bought a Gambles Hiawatha with a ShokEase fork. Is the spring adjustable, or are replacements available? Mine is very weak- does't hold me up at all. Cool bike I bought it from the original owner who owned it since 1942. He bought it with paper route money when he was twelve. thanks.. Gus

   RE:BALLOON:   ShokEase Fork posted by Gordon on 7/18/2004 at 2:13:55 PM
Nice find. The Shelby ShockEase was introduced in 1941 and then bike production ceased in 1942 because of the war. When they began building bikes again 1945 they discovered that kids wanted to see the shock action, so they developed the Shelby 3-way springer. I don't believe you can adjust the spring tension, but you might be able to find a suitable replacement at an equipment dealership or NAPA, etc.

   RE:RE:BALLOON:   ShokEase Fork posted by Gus on 7/21/2004 at 1:57:45 AM
Thanks Gordon; I've already kicked out a bike to make room in the basement for this one. Gus

AGE / VALUE:   1950 schwinn town & country tandem posted by: albert on 7/18/2004 at 2:13:12 AM
i bought a schwinn town & country tandem in mint to near mint condition today at an auction. i am curious as to it's value? i paid $150.00 for it. it has newer tires on it but i bought the originals in the box lot pile at the end of the auction. the serial number - T002932 - by the schwinn site dates the bike to 7/24/50, is this correct? it is maroon in color with gold pin striping. it has matching tool bogs behind each seat. it has chains on both sides with a very large chain guard on the left side (chrome with town and country) in the center painted area. drum brakes on both wheels and other than needing a bath and some new grease, like i said it is mint near mint. any idea of value and are my dates correct? thanks albert

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1950 schwinn town & country tandem posted by sam on 7/20/2004 at 2:18:25 AM
To me it looks like your right on the money---7-24-1950.Check out Sheldon Brown's site on Schwinn tandems for info too.As for value---my guess it's worth more than you paid.I'll leave value up to the pros(or check ebay)--sam

BALLOON:   hawthorne/wards? posted by: Rudy on 7/17/2004 at 5:51:05 PM
I recently bought a 40s bike from a local bike shop. I think it is a Hawthorne but i cant find any serial number charts for these bikes. It doesn't have a badge on it but i think everything else is original. Is there a web site that has serial numbers for Hawthorne bikes so that i can date it or find out if it is a Hawthorne?


   RE:BALLOON:   hawthorne/wards? posted by Gordon on 7/18/2004 at 2:18:26 PM
There are no Hawthorne serial number charts that I am aware of. You can get a copy of the book "Collectible Elgin - JC Higgins Hawthorn Bicycles", that has catalog pages for all the Hawthorne bikes from the 1930's through the 1960's. Or, you can email me a photo of the bike and I can look im my copy of the book.

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   1960's Sears Spaceliner on eBay!!! posted by: Auction Bee on 7/17/2004 at 2:25:59 AM
FYI...We have just listed a 1960's Sears Spaceliner starting at $1.00. Will need restoration, but is almost 100% complete to the best of what we can tell. Link is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2257730397.

Thank you,

Auction Bee

BALLOON:   decals posted by: Manny on 7/16/2004 at 4:19:52 PM
Does anyone know what kind of decal was on a 1980 girls schwinn beach cruiser,if any. The one that is on the frame that comes down from the head piece to the seat post. Not sure if it was the hand writing one or the printed one or none at all. thanks

MIDDLEWEIGHT:   Fleet Wing posted by: Craig on 7/15/2004 at 11:47:59 AM
I aquired a boys 26 inch Fleet wing with a Sturmey archer 3 speed hub dated 1958. It has hefty frame with midddle weight tires. I know the bike was imported and sold through a dept store chain in MASS. beyond that I cannot find any more about the Fleet Wing brand. Does anyone have source of information about this manufacture?

AGE / VALUE:   1939 Schwinn Spitfire posted by: Dave on 7/14/2004 at 7:57:33 PM
As far as I can tell, the bicycle I have is a Schwinn Spitfire and it appears to be in very good condition. It is a 26-inch ladies bicycle that I thought was from the fifties, but a collector I spoke with believes that it is actually from 1939. There is no mention of Schwinn on the frame, nameplate, chrome chainguard, fenders or anywhere. The logo on the nameplate is a spitfire propeller and engine cylinders as seen from the front along with the Spitfire name.

It has a serial number of G19433 under the bottom bracket, where it belongs, though there appears to be little reference information regarding serial numbers from the earlier years. It appears to have original Allstate tires and painted rims. Interestingly, the tires have little or no age cracks, or other signs of age, other than normal wear on the tread. There is some wear on the Mesinger seat, though no rips or cracks. The chrome is good, as is the paint and everything else, except for some surface rust and there is a bent edge at the back of the front fender.

One thing that I'm sure is not original is the handlebar stem. I have removed it to check and can leave it off, if desired, for shipping. The grips are in very good shape and completely intact despite this removal. I am seeking $250 or the best offer, plus the cost of shipping. It really is a nice bike in very good condition, but it isn't really my style. I like steel 10-speed road bikes. Email me at lawprofdave@surfglobal.net and I will happily send along some photos. This old bike wants to be ridden again.

AGE / VALUE:   I have a bicycle that I cannot find any info on posted by: Kelly on 7/13/2004 at 3:00:45 AM
Hi, I went garage saling yesterday and I found a very old bicycle. The man I bought it from didn't know anything about it except that it has hung in his garage for the past 25 years. It is a girls bike and blue and white. The seat is blue and white. It has white wall balloon tires. Of course the tires have dry rotted, but are still on the bike.
It says on the the bike it is an Executive Super Deluxe made in W.Germany. On th rear rim around the middle solid piece it has an incscription that says "Centrix". Model K,also a number and it says,"1]979c4". The size of this bike is a 20". I know this is not a schwinn, but this bike is awsome. Can anyone out there please tell me more about this awsome bicycle.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   I have a bicycle that I cannot find any info on posted by Carlos on 8/1/2004 at 5:53:13 PM
I have the same bike, but have no idea of its value or age. It is very cool, though.

BALLOON:   Larz Anderson National Bike Show posted by: Peter Naiman on 7/13/2004 at 12:23:45 AM
It's time to remind everybody that the Larz Anderson National Bike Show is back again this year on Sunday August 8th, with set up time at 9:00AM, and actual show time from 10:00AM to 2:00PM. For full information please check our website at www.oldroads.com/show. Thank you once more to Vin Vullo of Oldroads.com for building and hosting our website for yet another year. Our Concour will again host bikes from all eras, from Antique to Balloon to Lightweight. All bikes are welcome, even your "old soldier". Trophies plaques will be given in numerous categories as in past year, and there will be a pre-show vintage ride at 9:00AM. Either check our website or please call me at my home phone @ 617-469-4581 for more information or to register a bike or more for the show.

AGE / VALUE:   Headlight posted by: Tim on 7/12/2004 at 12:55:08 PM
I just picked up a 1970 Panther(I didn`t even knoe they still had a Panther in 70)It`s cherry I don`t think it`s ever been ridden. Problem is it has a dealer added headlight that I would love to replace, since the guy left the batteries in this one and rendered it scrap.It is(was I should say) a Schwinn acc. has a big black knob on the back the switch I guess .So if anyone has one of these lights in decent shape I would be interested. It also has a Delta taillight that clamps around the seatpost, all the insides are missing,so I need those too.
Thank you

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Headlight posted by Jim on 7/15/2004 at 11:47:02 PM
I hope you have some deep pockets! The light you refer to is the Deluxe Ball Headlight, more commonly known as the "Krate" light. These come up on Ebay occasionally, but be prepared to shell out over $200 for an NOS one. Even used ones in good to excellent condition go for over $100. The taillight also comes up less frequently, and you should be able to get it for significantly less. If you live near one of the major bike shows and are able to attend, then try there for your lights. Nothing like negotiating face to face! Good luck in your search.

FOR SALE:   1937 cleveland welding co. balloon tire bike posted by: marc on 7/9/2004 at 4:22:48 PM
That is exactly what i have for sale. It is in great original condition. red and white, has the original fenders and chainguard which are free of dents. Morrow hub, with a skip tooth sprocket and chainwheel. Rear facing rear dropouts with adjusting screws. One tire appears to be original or from that vintage. Also has truss forks.

Overall I would rate somewhere between a 6 or a 7. It would make a fantastic rider or a good candidate for a restoration. I personally would leave it as is.

Coke bottle grips need to be replaced, missing fender light, seat which is original has a tear along part of the edge. The seat cover is in otherwise very nic shape. Handlebars and stem would need to be re-chromed to be perefect.

I will ship fedex and ship for cost. I'm asking 250.00 but I may come down a bit if you pay with paypal.

here's a link to two pictures, if you need more let me know.


BALLOON:   monark silverking? posted by: paul on 7/9/2004 at 11:39:05 AM
hi what is the original tire/rim size of a monark silverking? It seems both 24 and 26" can fit the frame?

   RE:BALLOON:   monark silverking? posted by sam on 7/10/2004 at 2:25:29 PM
I'm told silverking did not use 26" wheels until after WW2.---sam

BALLOON:   Schwinn Spacelander???? posted by: Michael on 7/8/2004 at 7:10:35 PM
Did Schwinn ever produce a bike that looks like the Bowden Spacelander?
If so, how much is one worth in very nice original condition?

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Spacelander???? posted by www.choppster.com on 7/26/2004 at 5:24:00 AM
There was only 500-600 Bowdens made in 1960. The expected price on a nice one? $15 - 20,000.00 Some company reproduced the bike around 1985? I am searching too. Good luck.

   RE:BALLOON:   Schwinn Spacelander???? posted by Rod on 4/28/2005 at 6:38:52 PM
I've seen only a picture of a Spacelanderesque concept in the Schwinn book that goes back to 1960, and that's all it was: a concept that never took off.

FOR SALE:   I have a MEAD Pathfinder posted by: Vern on 7/7/2004 at 12:31:54 AM
I have a MEAD PATHFINDER bicycle for sale, it has wooden rim that are in great shape except that the back rim has a SMALL crack in it, the rims or bike frame has never been repainted, the head badge is very nice and readable. The Leather seat is in GREAT shape and the only serial number i can find is on the bottom of the crank on the frame and it is # 26. the bike is in allaround great shape, i would rate it a 7.5 on a 1 to 10 scale. also in still has the original tires on it. if anyone is intrested in buying this bike give me a call at (218) 268 4204. ask for VERN

   RE:FOR SALE:   I have a MEAD Pathfinder posted by Max on 7/8/2004 at 8:33:12 PM
hey Vern
try to sell it on Ebay
you could probably get a better price for it if it's in that good a shape

   RE:FOR SALE:   I have a MEAD Pathfinder posted by Frank Haack on 7/21/2004 at 1:12:19 AM
How much are you asking for the Pathfinder? THANKS