| I have a 1950 men's cantilever Schwinn bicycle with a bolt on kickstand. Is this common or was mine cleanly removed from the frame, my 1949 Schwinn had the welded Schwinn kickstand, this is my only Schwinn model I own with this type of stand. It's was found as a frameset/fork only with a bolt-on. Unusual or Contusial? |
| From what I've been told,Schwinn did build frames with out their traidmark welded on kickstand.Most were contract frames going to other outlets.Untill around 1950 schwinn didn't have schwinn shops--their bikes were billed as schwinn built---after the early 50s schwinn started developing their own shops to carry "Schwinns"---sam|
| Thank's Sam|
| So that would mean that my '60 Deluxe Tornado is a 'contract frame' on account it also has a bolt-on kickstand; the 1st of its kind I've ever seen unlike the normally average kickstands, and I thank you too!|
| Schwinn used bolt-on kickstands on some of their unequipped "popular priced" models as a way to keep the cost down. I*ve got a rough *55 Schwinn Flying Star that has no evidence of ever having a weld-on kickstand. I think the 26" Skipper models were the same type of deal. The *60 Tornado, as well as a basic Racer and a couple others (maybe in *61, too) were promo priced for Christmas sales at (I think) $49.95. So a bolt-on kickstand would make sense as a way to shave a bit of cost off. I*ve seen a few early 50s Schwinns without the weld-on kickstand, unusual but not a rarity. Cheers, Geoff|
| I also have a 1956 Schwinn that does not have a welded kickstand. See my message below dated 1/2/2006 for other details. Joe|
| It's a Postwar model I've learned by it's namesake, a man's bike with a stamped number reading|
HOS-D followed by 97681 below the letter's
Crankset sprocket has more of a teardrop pattern, fender's look fairly plain/standard no flowing wrap around braces with fancy reflector housing, '40's style chrome feather chainguard. Can someone indentify the year by serial number? Thank's in advance!
| Anyone know anything about an Evans Cutlass, made in Plymouth, MI. Not sure if my last message got through. I am trying to determine the age of this bike, and to see if it would be worth restoring. The bike is is very good shape, just needs some re-chrome, tires, and some tlc. Any advice would be great, thanks.|
| I have had several Evans, heaviest bikes i have ever seen, wow, must be made of steel rod instead of tubing. you need to date it by the period of design and its accessories. early models i have had came with flat top fenders, some were peaked, some round. its a neat bike, and i beleive Evans made almost the whole bike. |
| My neighbor gave me this bike for my daughter, trying to determine if it is worth fixing, all parts are there, including electric light and horn, some little rust, but otherwise in fine shape. Anyone have an idea of age? Thanks for any info you may have.|
I have in my basement a Firestone Pilot with balloon tires. It's just been restored with new paint (professionally done at a body shop), all new chrome and a new seat. The serial number is 8H192674.
Any idea on the age of this thing ?.. or a rough value ?
Thanks in advance.
| Firestone pilots would have been made by a few bicycle makers, dayton, colson to name two. Restored bikes will usually not hold the value of the restoration as the cost of it is usually more than it will be worth after the resto. Post a pic and someone on the list should be able to tell you the maker and a market value. |
|I have a bunch of Huffman/Dayton bikes one of which is a "Firestone Pilot". If you post or send a picture maybe I can help identify it for you. I will post an ad, hopefully you can see it. if you click on it, it will enlarge.|
|sorry here it is.|
| Thanks for the fast replies. |
Pretty neat ad. It doesnt look like the pilot in that pic though, it doesnt have one of those "gas tank" things, it actually looks more like the "Warrior". But it says Pilot on the front badge.
Unfortunately my digital camera gave up the ghost the other day so I'll have to take a polaroid (crude, I know) and scan it. I'll have it posted in a day or 2.
|try this one from 1939. this one is made by Colson.|
| Ok, heres a couple pics of it. I hope this will help. Sorry for the poor quality, but you get the idea.|
| definitely a Monark!|
| Thank you, scott. So Monark is the company that made it? Is that what you mean? How old would it hafta be then?|
| ok, after reconsideration I have decided I was kinda in error on your bike. though it has Monark parts it is a Huffy frame. the problem is Huffy bought Monark in the late '50s-early '60s. they then proceded to use up the parts on bikes. possibly this is one of these. what tire size does your bike use? if it is a middleweight it is probably from the early '60s. again it is possible that during its life it has acumulated these parts, say you had the old pilot and found a Monark girls bike in good shape, at 12 years old you might transfer parts and not look back. so you have a few possibilities but no clear cut answers. hope this is helpful. and really part of your bikes charm is this odd turn of events in history that produced bikes with mixed parts. as far as Firestone goes they never made their own bikes, they always contracted with another company and then put their badge on them. for what its worth I would guess your bike to be very late '50s to very early '60s before Huffy used up all the old Monark parts. the year they bought Monark I'm not sure of but it was right there somewhere. perhaps someone will if they know.|
| Years ago I found an old blue-&-white Firestone girl's frame that was so badly rusted that the chainguard could not be saved for the rust heavily overshadowed the decal as well as bubbled on the off-white rims w/ rear Perry coaster hub. By also owning a red '62 Monark El Camino made me wonder about Huffy's purchasing of the company; the three Huffy factors that stood out were: 1) the five-star sprocket chainring, 2) the headlight tank & aged white bezel (identical to those of my '64 Huffy Galaxie except w/ a black bezel), and 3) the serial # gathered from the serial # charts on this site. Thanks Scott, you're the source I was looking for when I posted topics regarding to the two bikes last spring!|
| after buying Monark I believe Huffy kept putting out bikes under the monark name, so you will occasionally find Huffys with Monark parts and Monarks made by Huffy with Huffy parts. same holds true for when AMF bought up what was left of Colson and Cleveland welding.|
Glad this could be helpful.
| Thanks scott for your reply. yes you were very helpful seeing as how I knew nothing of this bike, now I have an idea of what I got and also some background info. I guess its just like a classic car, you never know how many times its changed hands, and how many parts its accumulated over the years. Anyway, it certainly is a cool bike whoever made it! Oh, and in response to your question, the tire size is 26x2.125 if that helps.|
| the larger tire size makes me lean toward earlier since the tendency in the '60s was toward the middleweight bikes with 26"x1.75" tires. again my guess is late '50s, Huffy made, probably correct parts. at that time both bikes were very nice looking bikes. I don't mean to knock Schwinn but I prefer something not quite so common myself, and you have quite a story for yours. also go to nostalgic.net and look at the pictures of the fifties Huffys and Monarks. it's a great site for pictures and ads.|
| Value of a Pilot Firestone bike.|