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Archived: Old School BMX

MISC:   Who on earth treats a bike like this? posted by: Mike on 2/27/2001 at 8:06:56 PM
I just opened a box that the UPS truck just dropped off. The bike (a Master) had been a killer black on black model at one time, and has nearly every part that came stock, except for the 48's. Here's the funny/sick part. It had been spray painted blue over the black, then back to black. With all the parts still on it. Cranks, chainring- but the chain was spared! The once chrome forks are layered in paint (same colors), while the rest of the frame had been stripped to chrome/nickel, except arounf the BB shell, and the hard to get at places. The seatpost had been rusted into the seat mast by default, the bars I don't think ever left the stem, the seatpost clamp had been adjusted by a hammer... the pain that this thing went through... But you know, I am STOKED to get it, and I even like it more knowing that I am going to get to trick it out again. Anyone else have some good horror stories?

   RE:MISC:   Who on earth treats a bike like this? posted by bil on 2/28/2001 at 1:18:33 PM
I feel your pain! When I was 14 I saw the kuwahara bravo kt for the first time. That summer I worked my ASS off as a hod carrier (Brick mason's bitch) to save the money up to get one. Well I bought one of them alright it was gorgeous! Day glo yellow -all the trimmings- To my knowledge it was first one in the country like it. Well I rode until I was almost 18 then I graduated adn went in the Marines. When I came home and started gathering up my stuff I had found that my baby brother didn't like the chartreuse paint and hit it with about 35 coats of georgian chrome!!(silver spray paint) he didn't spare an inch of the factory paint!!
So now 5 years later, with the help of the internet I am finally getting it back to its original splendor I AM STOKED !!!! RIDE ON OLD SCHOOL!!!!

   RE:MISC:   Who on earth treats a bike like this? posted by Roy on 3/1/2001 at 11:44:03 AM
I got a mid 80's gt performer from my friend's little brother, it had black gt mags but were painted neon-green and it is chipping off, the frame was once painted pink and then crappily painted brown which is now chipping off,the bars are solid rust because the chrome was sanded off, the tires were spray painted silver and so was the grips, I bought it for 5$ what a deal!!!

   RE:RE:MISC:   Who on earth treats a bike like this? posted by Mike on 3/2/2001 at 7:01:37 AM
If you are doing a full restoration of your bike, go out to Stick Em Up's website (stickemup.com). They have GT, Red Line (Stu Thompson era, late 80's models), Kuwahara, Dyno, Diamond Back and Haro sticker packs. Not all the models or anything, but better than nothing. I am not sure what they wanted for them... I am sure better than Ebay.

FOR SALE:   Old School parts posted by: Brett P on 2/27/2001 at 4:11:34 PM
All prices are plus shipping. I have references from this page and many ebay positive feedbacks. Pictures are not available due to my constant battle with technology. Email to buy or ask questions. Thanks

-80's GT Zoot Scoot Scooter, nice, purple, complete minus tubes. $75
-SE Landing Gear 1" fork, chrome, later decals gray to black fade. Used on display bike only. $65
-1980 Mongoose Motomag, blue w/ three piece yellow snap padset, original owners manual, sales receipt. On a scale of 1-10 8.5 at absolute worst. Email for more details $250
-Hutch Trickstar frame, was pink, repainted white, no dings, cracks, forks. Only decal is an incorrect white and chrome Hutch decal. Has had wheels and clamp on it but was never ridden by me. Chip where clamp was. Includes NOS pink beartrap headset. $185
-NOS Pink Schwinn YO Rock N Roll Deluxe seat in ripped bag $25
-Used Peregrine HP 48's Old School wheelset, no freewheel. $65
-SE Standing Gear fork, Chrome, has been mounted on bike but never ridden, decal damage from storage, $100
-NOS Torker II Freestyle frame only White $60
-2000 Redline Single X frame, camo never used just built $30
-NOS Schwinn Lightning Bolt #plate green and yellow, in bag dated 81 $25
-NOS Gold Dia Compe Rear 890 Brake in box(complete) $25
-NOS Black and White Scrambler handlebar pad $5
-NOS Blue Sunshine flipflop hubs $30
-NOS Blue Predator xtralite stem and handlebar pads ok $5
-NOS Black Hunt Wilde Grips $2 a pair
####ON EBAY########
-1985 GT Pro Performer
-1985 Chrome Hutch Trickstar
-Skyway Tuff I's search surett@prodigy.net

   For what its worth posted by Brett P on 2/27/2001 at 6:14:27 PM
I will consider reasonable offers on above items.
I also have the following for offers only No set price
NOS 88 Haro Sport in the box unbuilt
NOS Redline Platinum #9 of 100 mint w/ Literature
Redline Platinum #33 of 100

   Following items are sold/traded posted by Brett P on 3/1/2001 at 5:07:42 AM
NOS Haro
Both Redline Platinums
Sunshine hubs
Standing Gear
Landing Gear

   Tony D. (wugak)? email me posted by Brett p on 3/1/2001 at 2:24:18 PM

AGE / VALUE:   Were/how can I find out the age of my Redline bike posted by: James on 2/27/2001 at 2:46:03 PM
Were can I find how old it is.


   how can I find out the age of my Redline bike posted by Rob on 2/27/2001 at 3:57:38 PM
hello James....im not an expert,but there is a lot of collectors who save /buy redline bikes here...what we need to know is the frame color,and stickers/colors of stickers(if any left?).also,flip the frame over.look on bottom cranksection,see serial numbers....either there or on back dropouts(highly unlikely)..................now post to us your serial numbers and the Style of the frame...is it a Dirt/jumping frame?.pretty much straight tubes,wedge type frame...or a freestyle type frame,with holes in rear frame for pegs,platforms,extra flaired tubes??? holes in front forks for screw-in pegs?....let us know.....cheers,Rob

   RE:how can I find out the age of my Redline bike posted by James on 2/28/2001 at 9:52:54 AM
The serial numbers are ACR3L02755 or ACR 3L02755 I could not tell if there was a space there or not the frame is pritty plane the style looks like this one http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/34a41733e4d37aad8236933a8d/i-1.JPG but in a lot better shape.


MISC:   Flip down pegs posted by: James on 2/27/2001 at 2:42:36 PM
Do any of you know were I can buy flip down pegs the kind that clamp on forks and are there a type of pegs for the back that don't go on the axle?

   RE:MISC:   Flip down pegs posted by blitzkrieg52@hotmail.com on 2/27/2001 at 5:24:55 PM
check out ebay, look for the nos gt forkstanders they usually cost 15-20$ and yes you can get some for the back that mount on the chainstay ,also on ebay.

   RE:MISC:   Flip down pegs posted by Bob on 2/28/2001 at 6:28:37 AM
James, I have some NEW Odyssey (front) NOS forkstanders for sale. E-mail me for a complete list: "rehetzel@msn.com"

   RE:RE:MISC:   Flip down pegs posted by James on 2/28/2001 at 11:16:34 AM
Your e-mail is not working I sent you a letter and the MSN postmaster sint it back. Whats up with that?

WANTED:   JMC pads posted by: Mark on 2/27/2001 at 6:52:05 AM
Looking for a JMC pad set, stars and stripes in RED. I have a NOS set in blue for trade. Please contact me directly with any offers.


AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Sting posted by: Dirk on 2/26/2001 at 4:32:18 PM
Howdy, I acquired a Schwinn Sting in 1987 from a friend who was strapped for cash. He used to race on it, but I never have so I am thinking about selling it to help fund a new mountain bike to race with. I am trying to figure out the age so that I can start determining a value. I thought the S/N was on the left side where the rear wheel attaches, but when I sent in the number to Schwinn they replied that it is a 1990 model... I know it was in my possesion before then. Any help on where to find the S/N?

    Schwinn Sting posted by "Master of Oldschool" on 2/26/2001 at 9:09:03 PM
I've seen nice complete Stings struggling to break $200 on Ebay. I'd say the Sting is the first old school bike to have peaked out on collectibility. Unless you have a framefork in the box NOS You may as well just keep it. Or wait for some newbie to come along looking for one, because he thinks they are valueable and drill him.

   dirty rotten scoundrels posted by Rob on 2/27/2001 at 4:13:59 PM
People of the forum,Please read this former statement........:I'd say the Sting is the first old school bike to have peaked out on collectibility. Unless you have a framefork in the box NOS You may as well just keep it. Or wait for some newbie to come along looking for one, because he thinks they are valueable and drill him.
NOW,DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THIS IS THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU DONT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH?.........this is exactly the bmx-ers worst nightmare....."Drill him".......translation =RIP HIM OFF!!!!.........back in the "old days" they would have tied someone like this up in the stockades and let everyone in town see what a THIEF these type of people are..............I USED to trust Everybody,now i cant hardly trust ANYONE!!........Dear God !!!!!......to this supposed Master of Old school...you are master of no morals ONLY......i cannot tell you in words how "low" you are....nor i will not dirty this thread anymore with the many nasty remarks that come to mind,but i will say this......You,as a human being,need some serious work......also,note that We are Real People,and post our E-MAIL address..... i noticed you have no decency(ba//s),and cant summon up enough courage to post your own e-mail address.......

MISC:   Lighten up posted by: bcc on 2/25/2001 at 9:44:07 PM
If you have a lot of old school bmx stuff and you think somehow it makes you cool, guess again. Some collectors are getting attitudes and it making it harder for the new guys to get started. You know who you are. Lighten up. This is supposed to be a hobby and hobbies are supposed to be fun. Please don't try to get your self-worth from old school bmx. If you have to be a jerk, find another hobby.

   You know who I am. posted by You know who I am. on 2/25/2001 at 11:23:20 PM
The more people I can turn off to getting into oldschool. The more of it I can have for myself. It is quite simple, I'm surprised your simple mind couldn't comprehend that!

   RE:You know who I am. posted by bcc on 2/25/2001 at 11:58:18 PM
Step aside squirt. It's not you I'm talking about, everybody knows you don't have anything. BTW, get a real job.

   RE:MISC:   Lighten up posted by Mike on 2/27/2001 at 7:40:56 AM
I wouldn't let high prices get you down. Sure, a killer Timmy Judge f/f for $50.00 would be nice, but they weren't cheap back in the day. Just search high and low for parts- this page and Ebay aren't your only sources. I have a couple cool bikes that are far from 100% nos, but that doesn't stop me from riding them. My Redline will see it's 16th season this summer, and it still jams. Find a F&F that needs some paint, and go for it. Picking up a freshly painted ride from the body shop can be just as cool as walking out of a bike shop.
I look at the amount of parts that I have worn out, or laugh at the handlebar end I found out in the woods (where I broke it off jumping 10 years ago)... and I used to get bummed that I didn't thrash on everything I had. But then I look at all the great times I had.
The prices might be high now, but you do have the option not to buy. $30.00 for a pair of lame Hutch grips is not cool, but when you get to complete a Pro Racer with that set, that $30.00 is pretty cheap.
I think this site can be a cool resource for all of us- it's funny how some people can know it all if someone asks an easy question in the wrong way... share some knowledge instead of acting like you know everything. And leave your email address when you reply. EOR.

AGE / VALUE:   wanted: 26" cruiser frame posted by: ben on 2/24/2001 at 1:39:10 PM
I am seaching for early 80's cruiser frame and fork. such as kos cruiser, possible trade S.E om flyer with landing gear

WANTED:   help!! posted by: Rob on 2/23/2001 at 10:28:23 AM
hello all....i am looking for parts for my bike...please go here, http://senac.com/forums/5965/bin/71.html and e-mail if you have anything to sell.....please include prices,and details....thanx for looking.......also,anyone who is knowledgable about Skyway bikes is asked to identify the frame shown at the same site....i "thought" it was a skyway streetbeat....shown side by side next to skyway streetbeat nos frame

   Rob, I have some parts you need. posted by Mark on 2/23/2001 at 3:30:31 PM
Read this parts list very carefully. I have some of the pink and white NOS parts you need (handlebars, grips, brake pads, seat post clamp, etc). Those parts are really not that much.


NOS Comp ST tires (green) matched set (1.75 size) $30
NOS Comp ST tires (pink) matched set (1.75 size) $30
NOS Peregrine HP tires (white) (1.75 size, for -
Peregrine 48s wheels) $30
NOS Skyway Tuff Wheels II (white, freewheel type) $100
NOS ACS Z-rims (built with pink ACS Z-hubs) $120
NOS Mushroom grips in the box (pink) $10
NOS AME Tri grips (white) $10
NOS AME Tri grips (lavender) $10
NOS Viscount Dominator seat (lavender) $10
NOS Power Neck Pro Power Disk (lavender) $10
NOS Power Neck Pro Power Disk (green) $10
NOS Power Neck Pro Power Gear (white, 44 tooth) $10
NOS Power Neck Pro Power Gear (green, 43 tooth) $10
NOS Skyway Spin Master $15
NOS ACS Z-pads brake pads (white) $12 for a complete set of
NOS GT Pro Performer handlebars (lavender with 1985 style -
writing) $15
NOS GT Pro Performer handlebars (pink with 1987 style -
writing) $13
NOS CW freestyle handlebars (white, double cross bars, NOT
the cheap looking ones that say "California Freestyle"
NOS Dia Compe Nippon green and white brakes, 2
complete brakes for $40
NOS Dia Compe Nippon green brakes, 2 complete brakes
for $40
NOS Hadley BMX headset, white $12
NOS CW California Freestyle pad set (flite brand, white with
green writing) $15
NOS red Addicks nylon plastic seat post clamp (red) $10
NOS Peregrine seat post clamp (silver) $10
NOS Odyssey seat post clamp (white) $10
NOS Tioga chain ring bolts (green) $5.00
NOS Tioga chain ring bolts (white) $5.00

   Mark posted by Rob on 2/23/2001 at 8:00:27 PM
NOS ACS Z-pads brake pads (white) $12 for a complete set of
four NOS Power Neck Pro Power Gear (white, 44 tooth) $10 NOS Hadley BMX headset, white $12 NOS GT Pro Performer handlebars (pink with 1987 style -
writing) $13 ---------------------okay,sounds great,but bars not exactly what im after....the acs zrim brake shoes are a definite tho.....how about a pic of plate and bars??....

   RE:Mark posted by Mark on 2/24/2001 at 5:24:56 PM
I don't have a digital camera, but the stuff is NOS and flawless. We have dealt with each other before, and my prices on the items you need aren't that bad. E-mail me if interested. Thank You!


   RE:RE:Mark posted by Rob on 2/25/2001 at 11:42:19 AM
nope,its not the prices Mark,I definitly think you have the best prices in town....
the Style of bars,crankplate is what im looking at.....if no pics,then cant judge if it fits what i want....
....no biggie....thanx for the offer tho....
and no,the redline hasnt got here yet///also,i hope this doesnt happen again->.....on the bright? side,i just bought a redline rl22 that turned out to be a 440 when it got here....thats Real nice.....thats also totally dishonest....you con artistpeople who deal/steal in bikes,who think they live too far away for me to do anything...you are so wrong...i Will deal with you soon
.....and i guarantee this...you have two choices...reply to my emails and send me my money Back....or go to Jail for fraud/theft.....

   RE:RE:RE:Mark posted by Brandon on 2/25/2001 at 6:51:56 PM
Bicycle deals have Karma too....

   RE:WANTED:   help!! posted by . on 2/26/2001 at 12:32:01 AM
"Caveat Emptor", Its amazing how many of you forget the cardinal rule. You should have paid attention in school they did teach it!

   RE:RE:WANTED:   help!! posted by Rob on 2/26/2001 at 9:59:20 AM
its a shame they didnt teach more about honesty,integrity,and morals.....
the times have changed,and the world is full of people who are all for the "almighty dollar"....
Most Sad

MISC:   Haro masters posted by: Keith on 2/22/2001 at 5:11:44 PM
What is differant about the 85-88 freestyler masters than
the early 90's street masters? I have not ever seen one. If possible please e-mail pictures. any info will be greatly appriciated
thanks in adv.-Keith

   RE:MISC:   Haro masters+ QUESTIONS! posted by Mike on 2/22/2001 at 7:50:46 PM
Built in bashgards are one feature on newer Haros. I am partial to 87-88's. Cool chainstays. Really cool when you add pegs, perfect feel.
Another Haro question- in 1987, an FST/FSX had a rear triangle like an 86 Sport/Master. In 88, was it identical the Sport, only in trimoly and no chrome on the triangle? I don't remember... but I found a mint/aqua FST that had the "DX" studs on the back (like a Sport) but isn't chromed. Wierd. What year is this thing?
Does anyone have any leads on stickerpacks for 87-88 Haro Sports or Masters?

WANTED:   Need Schwinn Scrambler Seat posted by: Greg Groth on 2/22/2001 at 5:08:59 AM
I am looking for an NOS seat to cpmplete the restoration of a '76 Scrambler. Seat is a bananna seat with the word "Schwinn" on side in white letters. Current seat is in OK condition, but would like to replace it with an NOS one if there is one out there. Bike can be seen at www.sagwagon.net

FOR SALE:   mid 80's mongoose californin posted by: steve on 2/21/2001 at 7:26:31 PM
i have a mid 80's mongoose californin chrome , chrome rims w. holes on them rims aren't the greatest shape but are shiny has some add on parts like pedals white plastic, white seat, red (faded) mongoose grips, acs lever acs 860 brake, can send pic decent condition email if you have any questions think arounf like 70 plus shipping

AGE / VALUE:   sprockets posted by: Brandon on 2/21/2001 at 6:10:06 PM
I don't think this is old school, in fact I KNOW it isn't, but, I'm hunting a flat land sprocket...real small diameter, made by the Basic Bike Co. in Canada. It usually is Red with a Maple leaf machined into it. I have a Small Town Hick, and also need the forks that were offered with it for a limited time, as well as any other parts, silencer pegs, etc...I have the handlebars and seat post.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   sprockets posted by Canadian Basic Co. on 2/21/2001 at 6:36:18 PM
I can get you a Basic Sluggo frame in near mint shape for $300.The color is metallic green has a samll amount of wear but not much.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   sprockets posted by Brandon on 2/22/2001 at 12:54:23 PM
Is that a street/ramp size/style frame? What year is it? and did they go out of business?

FOR SALE:   OLD SCHOOL STING F/F posted by: Dave on 2/21/2001 at 5:09:20 PM
I have a june 1981 sting frame in black and tapered chrome fork, paint is rough, I have some of the decals if you want to repaint it and a new NOS head badge, I will include the seat post clamp, post and head set also $150.00+ shipping costs

WANTED:   Hutch or Sun Tour Bear Trap Pedals posted by: Jonathan Kaplan on 2/20/2001 at 8:12:23 PM
Looking for new or near new Sun Tour or Hutch Bear trap pedals in 9/16" size.