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Archived: English Roadsters

WANTED:   Schwinn Speedster 3-speed shifter posted by: paul on 10/5/2000 at 1:00:58 PM
I just purchased a Schwinn Speedster s-speed that only needs a cleaning and a 3-speed thumb shifter. I'll take care of the cleaning. does anyone have a NOS or clean used thumb shifter?

AGE / VALUE:   Broke down and got a scooter posted by: dash on 10/5/2000 at 9:54:12 AM
Keith, I remember you got a Razor scooter a while back. I know the whole thing has really "blown up" since then. My son wanted one, and well, I've been looking for an excuse to get one! So we each got one, and then my wife thought it was so much fun that she got one too! The wheels have little magnetos (tiny dynohubs!) with red lights in them, and they light up like little fireballs as you roll along! My son's only 4 1/2, so we're definitely careful, but we all have a blast riding together, plus his balance is really pretty good, and I think he'll have alot of confidence when it comes time for a two-wheeler. Pick one of these up for some pure fun. Definitely a "Mini Cooper" (see below) to the DL-1's "Lincoln". I just rode my DL-1 (with B-33) for the first time in 3 weeks since getting the scooter, and I nearly fell asleep I was so compfy!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Broke down and got a scooter posted by Keith on 10/5/2000 at 10:54:26 AM
They are everywhare now, and I think they're lots of fun. BUT -- BE CAREFUL! As you probably already know, with the small wheels and low platform, even a tiny bump could throw you. They need to make a version with 200mm wheels and a platform about a couple of centimeters higher. I think the high-end American model -- XOOTER? -- fits this bill, for about $350.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Broke down and got a scooter posted by Keith on 10/5/2000 at 10:56:12 AM
P.S. One day I even strapped the scooter to my DL-1, rode to work, and scootered to lunch a few blocks from my office. Lots of stares here in Cowtown Columbus, Ohio when I did that.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Broke down and got a scooter posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/5/2000 at 3:37:52 PM
There was a thing on dateline N.B.C. about how over 10,000 kids have been hurt on these. Just be careful.Best wishes.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Broke down and got a scooter posted by KingKong on 10/6/2000 at 5:12:04 AM
Yeah, the wheels are too small and with your weight and momentum on the handlebars it is easy to do a header. What makes it worse is the back of the scooter comes up and gets tangled in your legs as you try to bring them forward.

I'll have to dig out the old Honda Kick-and-Go scooter. Much safer and way cooler.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Broke down and got a scooter posted by Art on 10/6/2000 at 7:14:02 AM
The Kalloy model of the scooter is better than the razor for me. My son has a razor and I bought the Kalloy for myself from my neighborhood bike dealer. It has a wider, longer platform and it doesn't have the bevelled edge hanging down that can get hung up on a curb. I think it's safer and my son likes the Kalloy better and he won't ride the razor anymore.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by: Keith on 10/5/2000 at 6:40:30 AM
Now the Mini is no longer being made. These were really fun cars. A couple of my friends have collected them, along with the Alex Moulton bikes, which go hand in hand with the Minis (he designed the suspension for the Mini, as I recall).

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by Michelle on 10/5/2000 at 7:55:22 AM
Time to scoop up everything Anglo...!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by dash on 10/5/2000 at 9:37:17 AM
Oh boy, my other vice! The original Mini will be enjoyed all over the world (except the US!) for many years, the parts networks are so strong, not unlike the Beetle. BMW still owns the Mini segment of Rover and the new model is coming HERE in 2002, check out this url: http://carpoint.msn.com/jump/news/JGnews_4019183_6.asp
granted, very different, but still with a white roof, upon which you can still paint a big ol' Union Jack! I've been pretty excited about this, unless, gosh Keith, did I miss a story in the last few days?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by Keith on 10/5/2000 at 10:51:23 AM
I had lunch with my Mini friend tday, and he says the new Mini will be totally non-British (German, I guess). I don't know what to make of that -- would it be like offering a Mazda Miyata to an MG fan? Or is German close enough?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by dash on 10/5/2000 at 12:01:13 PM
hmmm, so I guess the Longbridge factory is shutting down. It's been made there since, what, '55? I know the Longbridge workers took a great deal of pride in keeping the Mini alive. Germany usually makes a reliable product, though. It seems like it could still be the least ostentatious car out there, and iconic as well which is kinda cool, if one must drive a car. How funny would it be if BMW put out a "Mr. Bean Edition" Mini? :)

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by Fred on 10/5/2000 at 3:01:15 PM
I often attend the historic race meets at Watkins Glen, the soul of sports car racing in the U.S. I enjoy most, the Mini Coopers. They flat out fly down the straights and burn up the corners. What a thrill to see a couple of Mini's pass more powerful cars in the Boot section. Back in the early sixties Stirling Moss always showed up for the U.S. Gramd Prix. After the race one year he was stopped for speeding while on his way to NYC on route 17. On recognizing Stirling, the cop asked him why on earth he drove a car like that when he could have anything. Stirling's reply was: "because they're a bloody lot of fun.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/5/2000 at 3:42:06 PM
The cool friend I met in the back alley who showed me his car in his hidden workshop said that the British are coming to the states and going through junkyards buying up the M.G. Triumph e.t.c. and they are shipping them back to England. Someone wanted his car but he said no. I get to watch this come along. I love Mr. Bean!!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by dash on 10/6/2000 at 7:19:21 AM
"Giant killer" is the the endearing term I've always loved!

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by JimW. on 10/6/2000 at 3:23:43 PM
Back in the early '70s, I drove an Alfa 2000 roadster. Almost every
morning on the way to work I'd dice along Philadelphia's
twisty Wissahickon Drive with a guy who drove a mini with
union-jack roof. I was never able to take the guy, and
I always tried really hard. I blamed it on my car's solid rear axle,
but maybe it was his union jack.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mini gone posted by Richard on 10/8/2000 at 2:14:39 AM
I think that the new mini is being build a cowley, & longbridge, will build the Rover 75,45 & 25

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with neat old Raleigh posted by: Jeff on 10/4/2000 at 6:40:56 PM
Yesterday I picked up a really interesting Raleigh and I am trying to find out what it is. It has an all chrome diamond frame with a serial # 727696. It has a full chrome chaincase, chrome fenders, a big leather Brooks saddle with twisted rails and coil springs, rod brakes, a single speed freewheel, a rear carrier, an old style rear drop stand, chrome 26 x 1 3/4" rims, and Dunlop "Oversize" 26 x 2 tires. I bought it because I've never seen a Raleigh with fat tires before. I'm wondering what this bike is and where could I locate parts for it. It needs a small peice of the chaincase that bolts on over the rear freewheel and the tires are pretty worn. I usually don't mess with English bikes (None of my wrenches fit them :) but this one was hard to pass up.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with neat old Raleigh posted by Grant on 10/6/2000 at 3:01:32 PM
You certainly have a unique bike there. Is there any chance of
showing us some pictures? Are there any names or markings? Does
it have the Raleigh emblem on the steering head? I know Raleigh
made bikes for many retailers under differnt names and would make
anything the customer wanted. For example Supercycle had chrome
fenders and chain guard though it was a cheaper bike than a Raleigh.
Can you tell if it was made that way, or possibly it is a custom
job someone made up? The serial number suggests it was made
around 1968 - 1970.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with neat old Raleigh posted by Jeff on 10/6/2000 at 4:57:31 PM
I'm working on getting some pix of this bike. It does have the Raleigh headbadge in it. The only other markings I could find on it are Raleigh decals on the forks, seat tube and chaincase. It has rear facing dropouts and the seatstays bolt on instead of being welded. I purchased it from an older gentleman who lives in Florida. He's had it for a while and wasn't sure what it was either.


   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with neat old Raleigh posted by Grant on 10/7/2000 at 6:32:38 AM
The only theory I can come up with is that someone took a notion
to build up a Raleigh bike in an American style for some reason.
It would be interesting to know for sure, too bad the seller doesn't
know more about its history.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Good god, you caught a mermaid!   posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 10/9/2000 at 5:01:57 PM
This is like having fish fall from the sky in July and we all stand around looking at fish everywhere and we guess at how it happened!
Chromed Raleigh bikes:
The Raleigh Superbe was offered in all chrome but this was a cable brake 22 inch frame bike that took 26 X 1 3/8 Raleigh pattern rims. Raleigh rod brake bikes were offered in black and dark green in England. Offered in Black, flamenco red, and ladies frames in Mediterain blue in Africa.
If there were other colors beside black in India, I do not know.

I have never heard of (or seen) a all chrome Raleigh Rod brake bike with the 28 inch Westwood pattern wheels ever. Nor have I seen a 26 inch wheel, rod brake version all chromed. Chaincase and all. Raleigh was famous for making a bike a bit custom if you wanted it. You could have this done if you wanted to pay for it and it looks like somebody did.

The fact is, this is a rod brake bike and is all chrome with the decals over the chrome. It must be stunning. Looking forward to seeing pictures.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Good god, you caught a mermaid!   posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/9/2000 at 5:19:03 PM
The very popular, fondly remembered and famous 1950's Raleigh Record Ace(one recently sold for $1,400.00 on e-bay and it was not a all chrome version) was offered in a light blue-green paint with chrome ends, with yellow R.R.A. decals. Some of these, this same bike was made up at Raleigh as an all chromed bike. Everything was chrome plated and then they sprayed red laquer over the chrome and they did some wild and very lovely colors with this model. 1948,1949, 1950, 1951,1952 Raleigh Record Ace 531 machines. The very finest componets. Chater-Lea Sturmey-Archer F.C., F.M. A.C. AND A.S.C. HUBS (alloy shells) Dunlop Special steel lightweight rims, the works. I think maybe they got round to splashing chrome onto some rod brake bikes like yours. This could be 60 years old or quite recent.

WANTED:   Brooks posted by: red on 10/2/2000 at 10:31:21 PM
My local source for parts claims that Brooks mearly changed distributors and did not actually go out of business. Despite my begs to differ, he insists he can still get saddles at regular price. I ordered 5 of them. I'm assuming he will soon learn he is mistaken. However I will ask if he is willing to take additional orders from y'all. And if he is correct (!?), could someone please let me know in the form of a reply to this posting?

   RE:WANTED:   Brooks posted by Michael on 10/4/2000 at 7:21:06 AM

According to Nottingham newspapers and their own website


they have closed. Unlike most web rumours, this one is true.

   RE:WANTED:   Brooks posted by John on 10/4/2000 at 8:20:16 AM

There's some good news, though. Look at this morning's "This is Nottingham".


There are four offers on the table for the Brooks part of Sturmey-Archer, and people are hopeful that that will reopen.

Apparently things look pretty black for the rest of the company though.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Brooks posted by Tom Faust on 10/4/2000 at 9:42:40 PM
Being what This is Nottingham refers to as an "insovency practitioner", it is possible that all is not lost. I assume that the "administration" referred to is similar to bankruptcy. This could be used to strip down the debt, making the company more salable. However, England is a case of socialism run amuck. Notice all the demands in the Nottingham paper for "Redundancy Pay". Their jobs didn't become "redundant", they disappeared. "Administration" may mean take over by the goveernment, as they did with MG and a few other companies. Anyone try to buy an MG lately?

   RE:WANTED:   Brooks posted by Keith on 10/5/2000 at 6:39:57 AM
The wholesale distributor for Sturmey and Brooks in the U.S. is located in Heron Ohio. According to their website, they are out of Brooks. The internet is strange -- there's al kinds of comments and rumers about Brooks. I'd say, if you can get a lifetime supply now at regular non-gouging prices, then do so.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   Brooks posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/9/2000 at 5:06:07 PM
M.G. made a comeback recently. I would not know how to get one but the M.G. book I have shows a recent, modern car. I hope Brooks makes it.

AGE / VALUE:   A 28" Dunelt Bike posted by: David A. Maynard on 10/1/2000 at 6:28:21 PM

I have a Dunelt bike that my Welsh mother purchased for me when I was a child. It's in good shape, but it needs new 28 x 1.5 inch tires. The only thing that appears to be wrong with it is one of the Dunelt decals appears to have slipped around. I'm sure it's from my sweating a lot from peddling it when I was a kid. -- it weighs a ton! I've also got her women's Triumph, that I may get going for my wife. It's also in great shape, just needs tires.

My bike has mechanical front and rear brakes and is a 3-speed. It looks nearly identical to the diagrams I've sen on the web for a Raleigh. Although it was many moons ago, I think my mother was convinced it was a Raleigh by a different "American" name. I have no idea if she was right.

It's black with a hard seat and an "optional" bag behind the seat that my mother paid extra for. It doesn't have a fork lock like the Raleigh diagrams show. I've still got the owner's manual for it as a matter of fact.

Have you ever heard of one?

I'm planning on replacing the tires and using it again. Can I still buy the tubes / tires for it? Is it worth anything? I guess it's sort of an oddity now.

-- Dave Maynard

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   A 28 posted by Karl on 10/2/2000 at 9:30:27 AM
Dunelt was one of the many smaller companies swallowed up by Raliegh in the '50s and '60s, and were made by Raliegh since then. Along with Phillips, Triumph, and others, Dunelt was sort of the 'mid-line' range (where Raliegh and Rudge were at the top).

Tires can still be found. I would start at http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris and follow the links to "tires" and "old English 3-speeds".

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   A 28 posted by Grant on 10/2/2000 at 11:58:28 AM
For tires copy down the esact size off the old tires or rims.
Then phone your local bike shop.

I was surprised how easy it was to get new tires for my Raleigh
this summer. They are 26X1 3/8 English pattern, and I was told
they are hard to get. In fact both my local sporting goods store
and the local Canadian Tire had them in stock. This in a town of
under 20,000.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   A 28 posted by Phil on 10/2/2000 at 4:05:58 PM
Dave, absolutely get that fine old bike back on the road, and the Triumph too. They are just too fine a bike to leave gathering dust. You'll enjoy it. Every time I take my old Raleigh out I feel like it's 1960. It's amazing what the wind on your face and the click click of the Sturmey Archer hub do for your memories.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   A 28 posted by Paul MN on 10/2/2000 at 9:28:39 PM
If theres a bicycle you could learn to love, a rod brake Dunelt with 28 inch wheels is as likely as any. I have a 1966 model with chrome fenders that I've put thousands of miles on. Cable brake Dunelts were a cut below the Raleigh line but I have to say the rod brake Dunelt is at least as nice as Raleigh tourist and much rarer. Brake linkage is exactly the same except Dunelt kept using the taller, narrower handle bar style that Raleigh dropped around 1960, this gives an even more stately feel but not as good of leverage up steep hills. All 28inch Dunelts have the longer 7inch crank arms with 44 tooth chainwheel. Grease the straps on the old saddlebag or they could fall apart. A touch of oil on all pivoting parts of the brakes is a cheap and easy start at reviving that sweet old bikes dignity. If you care to fine tune the brake system, I posted my version of instructions on June 5 1998. Check this sites archives. We are very fortunate to have these machines, good luck.

   Cool it's a 28 in ch rod brake Dunelt!!! posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 10/3/2000 at 4:19:02 PM
This 28 inch rod brake Dunelt should have the "D shaped fork crown" I like these. Good find, have fun.

   RE:Cool it's a 28 in ch rod brake Dunelt!!! posted by Warren on 10/4/2000 at 8:36:12 PM
Just a question about the dimple...I've seen them on the newer Raleigh Dunelts but I have an older Sports model that had a standard fork crown with chrome cap.
Anyone else have the older Dunelts and can fill in the gaps?

One other thing...Dunelt may have been a mid-quality bike when it was taken over but I believe they produced earlier models on par with just about anything Raleigh did. At least my example has a solid brazed frame, threaded eyelets, an oiler hole for the b-bracket, pump pegs and nice chrome on the "Dunelt" chainring/cranks. I think we sometimes tend to recall previously stated opinions so often they became fact.Duh no kidding...right?

   RE:RE:Cool it's a 28 in ch rod brake Dunelt!!! posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 10/5/2000 at 3:46:22 PM
We need pictures, a whole page on Dunelt showing these. There were more than one kind of fork crown and I should have said that.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   A 28 posted by Lou on 10/6/2000 at 4:48:06 PM
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with one of these old British bikes. Recently, someone just gave me one. After much research on the internet, I've found that it is a 1962 Dunelt ("62 2" stamped into the shell of the Sturmey-Archer AW 3-speed rear hub) 28" (I think?) Men's Bicycle w/side-pull cable brakes. Amazingly, it is almost all original (including brake cables and John Bull brake shoes). The seat was changed in the early '70s and the tires have been changed more recently. The person who gave it to me said that the shifter cable was broken when he found the bike so he removed the cable form the shifter to the indicator chain. The hub appears to function properly. All other components were installed at time of manufacture. It appears to have faded from the original cherry red color w/gold pin-stripes to a silvery color; except on a few bottom surfaces. The head badge, "Made in England" (painted on the top-tube) and crest (painted on down-tube) appear to be in great shape considering the age and wear on this bike.

Riding this bicycle brings back the childhood passion I had for cycling when I learned to ride. That's w/just 3rd gear. It's comfortable and stable. The only thing that took some getting used to was the narrowness and angle of the handlebar grip positions.

Right now, I have the bike in the shop getting a new cable and chain installed for the shifter mechanism; and the crank and 3-speed hub serviced. Though this service is a bit steep. I feel I'll have years of joyous use from this wonderfully well built machine.

If anyone happens to know what this bike is worth or where correct parts could be found (or anything else to share), please e-mail me.

Thank you,

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1970 Hercules posted by: Tina on 10/1/2000 at 12:06:19 PM
I just bought a ladies 1970 Hercules bike. It's missing the rear chrome fender. Does anyone out there have one for sale?

   Rear fenders posted by Grant on 10/2/2000 at 6:30:58 PM
There must be lots of brand new rear fenders off ladies' bikes
hanging around people's garages. I bought 2 old Raleigh built
ladies models within 2 weeks both with rear fenders and rear
brakes missing before I found out why. The second one still had
the baby seat on the back - they took off the fender and the brake
to fit the seat!

What kind of moron can't put on a baby seat without removing the fender
and brake? And what head case would ride around with baby on the back with
only a front brake? I don't know but there are at least 2 of them
out there.

   RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by Warren on 10/4/2000 at 8:24:28 PM
Hey, I ressemble that remark! It is often the case that modern baby seat/rack combos will not fit on a Raleigh Sports beacause of the lower eyelet positions behind the rear dropouts. Since it is going to carry my precious children I would much rather opt for removing the rear fender than jury-rigging the carrier to clamp on elsewhere just to keep the fender on. Which is exactly what I did...as well as tuning BOTH brakes within an inch of their lives.

And when I got up this morning and looked in the mirror, I'm quite certain I was not a moron. This afternoon...maybe.

   RE:RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by Grant on 10/5/2000 at 10:06:34 AM
Tina, meet Warren. He has a Raleigh fender he is not using.

The better quality baby seats I have seen installed without
removing the fender or brake. And, I think I could invent
a mounting bracket at least as strong that would not require
removing anything. Taking off the fender is not so bad, babies butts tend
to get wet and muddy anyway so they are used to it.But I am
glad you left the brake on there.

   RE:RE:RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by Grant on 10/5/2000 at 10:15:37 AM
By the way Tina your Hercules was built by Raleigh and the fenders
are the same. They also built Triumph, Glider, Supercycle,and
a dozen other brands. The Supercycles seem to come with chrome
fenders as a rule. All these fenders are alike and interchangeable.
Try your local thrift stores, bike shops etc.

I don't happen to have any chrome fenders in stock, sorry.

   RE:RE:RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/5/2000 at 3:49:18 PM
A wet and muddy butt is no fun! no matter what your age is. Unless you are a mountain biker and then it's ok.

   RE:RE:RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by Warren on 10/6/2000 at 4:08:19 PM
Hey Grant...you from Toronto...I know a Grant at a popular bikeshop downtown who "sounds" auspiciously like you. Offlist if you prefer.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by Grant on 10/7/2000 at 6:09:18 AM
Haven't been to Toronto in years though I live about 120 Km
from there. They say everyone must have a double. Make mine
Canadian Club, water back.

   RE:RE:Rear fenders/morons posted by Tina on 10/8/2000 at 8:07:49 PM
So Warren.... Do you have an extra rear chrome fender you want to sell ???

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   23" Sterling Roadster posted by: duncan inglis on 10/1/2000 at 11:50:05 AM
Has anyone heard of a Sterling Grand Prix. I have resently aquired a 23" gents bike with the above name on the down tube. The frame appears to be built with Renolds 531 butted tubing, and rides well. Any information would be appreciated.

AGE / VALUE:   Help with age of Hercules posted by: Greg Groth on 9/30/2000 at 7:21:01 PM
Cam accross an older Hercules a couple of years ago, and I am trying to determine the age of it. Bike is black with red pinstripes, 68 degree seat post tube angle. Has a single speed flip-flop hub, freewheel and fixed gear. Wheels are 26 X 1 3/8 - EA% (I believe). Tires are Good Year - may not be original. Brakes are cable operated and have no anchor bolt - cable cannot be removed from housing. I read another post that pre-war Hercules have brass nameplates, whereas later models are aluminum. This one has a brass nameplate. I was able to determine a couple of years ago that this bike is indeed a Hercules and not a Raliegh, but cannot remember what differences led me to that conclusion. Other notes: Frame is lugged with scalloped lugs and has an oil cup on the crank. I believe that the wheels are original from their design and their size in relation to the fenders. Hubs are steel with oil cups and machined cones. No manufacturer name on rims but have a stamped pattern pressed into the braking surface. Wheels constructed with washers on nipples, and cloth rim strips were used. Handlebars are moustache type, and I believe are original. Grips, pedals, and seat were not there when I found it. Chain guard is aftermarket (wald - painted black). Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.

Best Regards.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help with age of Hercules posted by Greg Groth on 9/30/2000 at 7:56:53 PM
Made a boo-boo, rims are not stamped on braking surface (was thinking about another bike). Tire size is listed as 26 X 1 1/4 / 26 X 1 3/8 on the sidewall (unsure if they are 26 X 1 1/4 or EA3).

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help with age of Hercules posted by sam on 10/1/2000 at 7:22:17 PM
Greg,I think there is a list of dates when Raleigh bought most of the other English bikes.As I recall Raleigh bought Hercules in 1960.I have two heruleies both have raleigh type crank arms , one with a brass headbadge the other is aluminum.I beleave both of mine to be 1960s.I do wish we could find the date from the serial number but there is no list on them.One other thing the chain gerd on the one with the brass headbadge was shaped a lot like the chaingards on raleigh sports but was a lot wider & had" made in England" stamped in it

   Odd tire fact posted by Grant on 10/2/2000 at 12:03:57 PM
English 26X1 3/8 will interchange with Schwinn 26X1 1/4. This
accounts for the double size marking on American made replacement tires.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Help with age of Hercules posted by ChristopherRobin on 10/9/2000 at 5:27:07 PM
I think that the origonal Hercules bikes had the brass headbadge and that they continued to have them until Raleigh got ahold of Hercules and then they were Silver and the Cycle and Motor Company part was dropped. Never seen a Raleigh made Hercules without the rear 3 speed hub being a Sturmey-Archer.

WANTED:   Wanted: Rear Reflector for Hercules posted by: Wendell on 9/28/2000 at 5:40:45 AM
I am looking for a white rubber (housing) reflector for an English Hercules 3-speed, early 60's. Also need a cool tool bag. I have two NOS shifter cable clamps (english, chrome) willing to trade plus cash. Thanks!!!! Any info on Hercules would be appreciated.

   RE:WANTED:Also Need… posted by Wendell on 9/28/2000 at 7:49:55 AM
I'am also looking for that crome piece that goes on the front fender. Thanks!!

   RE:RE:WANTED:Also Need… posted by sam on 10/3/2000 at 11:15:00 AM
Wendell, I just changed out the fenders on my hur.I have two chrome tips of different lengths.E-mail me at samclingo@hotmail.com and I'll send them to you.

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MISC:   Austro-Daimler "Michelle" posted by: Tom Faust on 9/26/2000 at 7:03:45 PM
I am encouraged by the identification of the Swedish bike below. I recently purchased a "new" Austro-Daimler "Michelle" which had been in the showroom about 20 years. It is a mixte frame model with Simplex derailers, Winmann brakes and wheels, with a Nervar crank. I have never seen handlebars like this. The tape was originally black but sun faded to brown. The seat was also a victim of the sun and it has a recent replacement. See pictures at: http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=402892&a=8867830 (highlight address, hold Control, type C,K,V, Enter) The dealer still has some men's frame "Pathfinders" in the box, these have Japanese equipment. The dealer thinks he bought these in the late 70's. Retail for the Michelle was $349.00 and the Pathfinders $289.00. The labels on the Michelle indicate the tubing is Puch 2500, the Pathfinders are 2600. Does anyone know anything about these bikes?

   RE:MISC:   Austro-Daimler posted by Bill H on 9/27/2000 at 6:21:13 PM
Elegant looking machine. I like those bars, what a town bike!

   RE:MISC:   Austro-Daimler posted by sam on 10/4/2000 at 7:20:02 AM
Tom, I also picked up a bike that looks like yours,it was a Peugeot(same frame & bars)It has the nervar crank,sachs-maillard hubs,700x28c michelin select whitewall tires,weinman centerpull brakes,& chrome fenders.The one I got had shimano positrom derailer.Started to pass up on even asking the price on this one because it's not the type I buy,but as they say, they made me a deal you can't refuse!I put it in the shead an hadn't looked at it till I saw your photos.Guess I'll make it the next project---Sam

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports/DL-1 Bearings posted by: Bill H on 9/26/2000 at 2:35:15 PM
I know some of you out there can spout out the bearing sizes and numbers for the various parts of the Raleigh Sports and DL-1 line, and the SA AW hubs. Could you please post the info for the headset, bb, front hubs, SA hubs etc? I've got some winter projects and I'd like to get a stock of new bearings before I begin. Thanks for the post, it will make a nice reference. Bill

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports/DL-1 Bearings posted by Paul R. on 9/26/2000 at 6:52:13 PM
Bill, Here is my spout-worthy attempt at bearing data for the Sports and Tourist models: Headset (50) 5/32"; Bottom Bracket (22) 1/4"; Pedals (44) 5/32"; Front Axle (20) 3/16"; and Rear Axle (16) 1/4". Good luck with your projects!

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports/DL-1 Bearings posted by Bill H on 9/26/2000 at 9:13:07 PM
Thanks Lads

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports/DL-1 Bearings posted by Keith on 9/27/2000 at 6:33:30 AM
Whew! I'm glad to hear 50 in the headset. Thought I might have stuffed too many in there.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports/DL-1 Bearings posted by ChristopherRobin on 9/27/2000 at 2:42:04 PM
there are 25 in each race or fill it up and take one out.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Sports/DL-1 Bearings posted by Kevin on 9/28/2000 at 3:59:06 PM
Won't twice as many bearing make it twice as smooth?

AGE / VALUE:   GERMAN MADE TEN SPEED posted by: Michael on 9/26/2000 at 1:47:38 PM
I have on german made ten speen it has written on the top tube.....varldmastarcyklen and the word CRESENT on it also the bike is in near pristine shape it is the color orange with black and white lettering...is it worth anything???? i really like the bike and all i just want to know is if it is a worthwhile bike to keep and add to my personal collection!
any info is appreciated
Thank You

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   GERMAN MADE TEN SPEED posted by Peter Hällström on 9/26/2000 at 2:32:50 PM
Michael, This bike is not German, it is made in Sweden and in fact one of the largest brands in Sweden made by Monark Cresent Bolagen (MCB) in Varberg, Sweden. These orange bikes from the late sixties and early seventies are known as quality bikes in Sweden and "Världsmästarcykeln" is Swedish for The Worldchampionbicycle and it was named after the succses of the Pettersson brothers making some good results during this time. I have a three speed (Sachs Torpedo hub) roadster with stainless fenders and rims from 1968 in near new condition my self and Im not selling it. Have you checked deOROs Classic Rendezvous? There you can find some more information.
Regards Peter

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GERMAN MADE TEN SPEED posted by Art on 9/27/2000 at 6:41:57 PM
I have one, too. What kind of components does your bike have.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   GERMAN MADE TEN SPEED posted by Art on 9/28/2000 at 7:10:52 AM
Here is what is said about the Crescent on the Sheldon Brown site "Crescent (Monark)

A Swedish bike not to be confused with the American marque of the same name from the turn of the century. The classic model is Orange with funky checkerboard graphics. Workmanship, if you could call it that, was lousy, and the bikes had memorable toe-clip overlap. We don't mind some overlap, but this was more like foot-in-the-spokes overlap. Made for an interesting ride. They were actually a fairly competent race bike, and I knew some people who devastated a number of fields on these orange beasts. Most surviving examples were probably repainted and then met untimely deaths from commuter hell accidents, so examples with nice original paint are rare. Even rarer are those who would pay serious money for one. Figure $675 for one in guideline condition."

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GERMAN MADE TEN SPEED posted by Peter Hällstrom on 9/28/2000 at 8:36:40 AM
I find Sheldons judgement about lousy workmanship a bit strange, Im no bicycle expert but in the early seventies when these bikes where new (and an unaffordable dream for me) they where considerd top of the line quality among standard bikes in Sweden and looking closley on my own Crescent I cant find any lousy workmanship and compared to my British bike, Wulfruna, I find Crescent to be a realy well built bike. I realy love my Crescent and if you want to se it, just mail me and I will mail you a picture in return.
Regards Peter

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   ROD OPERATED BRAKE 24 1 1/38 IN ROADSTER posted by: Michael on 9/26/2000 at 1:40:57 PM
I have one Raleigh roadster with the rod operated brakes and 24 1/38 in wheels it has a swan like headtube badge and a open chaincase it also seems to have a newer type free wheel rear hub though.....when i got it it had been paited red .....it had been painted when it was still together..so i have stripped it and repainted the bike...is this bike worth anything???I have yet to finish putting it back together....any info would be appreciated