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Archived: English Roadsters

WANTED:   Hercules Parts posted by: EdPowers on 7/26/2000 at 5:25:13 PM
I'm new to the site. Tried to ask a question a few days ago. I need the 4 pronged metal piece that holds up the rear fender on a Hercules - about a 1954-1956 model 3 speed - hub is B Type 4 - also need the small upright piece that clamps on the rear upright to hold the chain guard in place . Looking for an old or replacement rear carrier for the bike - it had one when new, but it's gone. Is there a "marketplace" for parts on the web? How would I date this bike - I got it new about 1955-1956 -- but I've failed to locate a serial # on it. Yesterday I bid on a Hercules Hawthorne on ebay (it sold for $37.99) because it had all these parts in the picture, plus the u-shaped round pieces that hold the rear fender on - I use a wire clothes hanger bent to shape. I didn't get the bike - stopped at $36.99. And is the restoration kit advertised on this site worth the price?. neat site... I'm riding the bike my Dad gave me in 1955-1956.. any hints out there from those who have experience. I've looked in the curren t postings and searched the archives, but can't find any info about Hercules 1955/56 - only picture I found was the 1948 Hercules on RYDJOR page. Mine is similar, but has the shifter on the handlebars. Chainring is H's. Any help would be appreciated thanks EdPowers

   RE:WANTED:   Hercules Parts posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/26/2000 at 5:49:24 PM
Well, so much for my attempt at the diagrams here solving this problem.If this is not a fender brace but the thing that holds the rear fender to the backstay then you mean a bridge clamp. I have a few of these please e-mail me.http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Hercules Parts posted by EdPowers on 7/27/2000 at 4:52:55 AM
Much thanks -- I'll email -Ed

   RE:WANTED:   Hercules Parts posted by Ben on 8/9/2000 at 5:28:50 PM
im sorry but I cant offer you any hercules parts, I do however have a fully origional "hercules" Balmoral which I know very little about. It was bought new for £19 in the mid fifties, it has rod brakes and a sturmey archer 3spd hub, any info would be much appreciated.
The bike is british racing green and the full chain guars has a decal........HERCULES "the finest bicycle built to-day"

AGE / VALUE:    On the Trail of the mysterious Wulfruna! posted by: http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 7/26/2000 at 6:49:54 AM
Well, the door opens and a crack of light appears. A booklet on the history of cycle manufacture in Wolverhampton written by Jim Boulton in 1988. (Yea, it's recent!) which lists the Wulfruna Engeneering company, Great Brickklin Street as apearing in a trade directory in 1927. No further mention of the company. There was a previous version of the Wulfruna bicycle , produced by Barrett at the Wulfruna Cycle works, St John's Square, Wolverhampton. This is it for now, but more informartion will follow.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    On the Trail of the mysterious Wulfruna! posted by Peter Hällström on 7/26/2000 at 10:26:25 AM
This is not easy and allmost imposible to find anything after 1940. I have found out following: 1870:s John Barratt founds Wulfruna Cycles, 1911 business is bad, William Clarke at Wearwell Cycles takes over, 1927 the Clarke family sold out to the Wain family, 1940 production seams to end. I dont if this is exactly correct but its very hard to find information regarding Wulfruna, nobody seams to know any thing. For a short histotory of Wolverhampton Cycle industry please check this adress: http://wlv.ac.uk/'in2021/wlvmanuf.htm and scroll down to cycles. Im at the moment trying to get in touch with Jim Boulton, he might know someting not mentioned in the book

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My Superbe hits the road! posted by: Lorna on 7/25/2000 at 10:48:02 PM
Well, after working through a bit of a psychological block with the rear hub, I have finally finished the refurbishing of my Raleigh Superbe. Everything from stem to stern has been taken apart, cleaned, lubed, sometimes replaced, and reassembled and the NOS mudguards and chainguard look quite elegant. I took it out on a ride, and must admit to trying to catch my reflection in passing shop windows...oh...once or twice. We (the bike and I) looked way spiffy! I felt like a proud mother duck when I locked it to a tree outside the hardware store.

One piece of advice: I find that I'm freewheeling in first gear. This isn't really a major problem, but I'd like to not do it! Seems like I can adjust the cable so that third engages and EITHER second or first works. I've learned that the amount of adjustment needed is miniscule to effect a change, but what should I do to get all three gears working? (and yes, the ratio of sprocket to wheel rotation tells me that I am getting third...)

PS: Christopher Robin: I wrote to you, but my email crashed, so my message may have died en route. Shall I write again?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My Superbe hits the road! posted by http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 7/26/2000 at 7:00:42 AM
Yes, please write again. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com I am proud of you.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My Superbe hits the road! posted by Lorna (again) on 7/26/2000 at 10:02:25 AM
I should mention that I replaced the entire internal hub mechanism, and yes, the pawls and springs are installed correctly, so that isn't the problem.

(Thanks, CR, I'll drop you a note soon.)

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My Superbe hits the road! posted by sam on 7/27/2000 at 1:01:03 AM
I like your use of the words"from stem to stern".How appropriate for a bike made in England.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My Superbe hits the road! posted by Leon on 7/27/2000 at 2:39:33 PM
Really curious about the solution to getting all 3 gears working. Please share with the group when you get things figured out. I"m playing around with some old hubs myself and want to know more about what to do or not do.

AGE / VALUE:   Check it out! posted by: ChristopherRobin on 7/25/2000 at 5:27:13 PM
E-bay item #390857911 N.O.S. Raleigh Dynohub complete system
This is a older one with the diamond on the hub shell, has a threaded driver, a flat glass headlamp, the bullet style tail light(my favorite tail light) a top tube shifter, a spanner a threaded cog, small one. Even the cool old box!

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by: ChristopherRobin on 7/25/2000 at 9:57:48 AM
"No, I want to keep it, (changed to) you better help me dig it out! and so I start my Raleigh Twenty project. By the way, if this catches on and it may well. We will need a whole new catagory heading, What is this under? Musclebikes? anyway I would like to hear from others who have hopped up a Twenty. Sheldon's page on the Twenty is excellent! Who else has followed along these lines, and what did they do? Lets hear some "Twenty tales"

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/26/2000 at 7:28:30 AM
When I am all done I am going to hop- up one of my R.S.W. 16's The folder of course!! I love this stuff.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by JohnM on 7/26/2000 at 12:56:14 PM
Yes! I bought a Twenty after reading Sheldon's web page - who would have thought that a folder could handle so well and be so much fun to ride? Very rugged, too. My only complaint, it's about two inches too big to lay down flat in the back of my Saturn when it's folded. I suppose some folks who see me on it must be thinking, "some kids never grow up", but it helps that my helmet covers most of the grey hairs.

Mine is still all stock, but I've got new tires, B72 saddle, and a longer seatpost on order for starters.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/26/2000 at 4:24:11 PM
I saw a mint one today in the bike shop it had origonal red line tires and it was only there to have them replaced.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/29/2000 at 10:14:26 AM
I am wondering what exact brand of rim and tires to fit on this bike. My mechanic pal said to use a double wall, alloy rim that eliminates the chance of a spoke puncturing the tube. I am open to suggestions on rims and tires.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by Keith on 7/31/2000 at 9:38:13 AM
I saw a Twenty and a couple of RSWs (16") riding two back-to-back centuries in May of this year. I aksed Sheldon, who told me they do these rides regularly, and that he is in touch with this group. It shows that these bikes are very capable riders!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by Kimo on 8/1/2000 at 8:38:35 PM
I too bought a twenty after reading Mr. Brown¹s page. In fact I bought two. One non folder for the wife. (The Non-folder with different wheels is a cool bike, a real looker.) They are terrific apartment bikes. I swapped handle bars. I took the stingray clone off the folder and took the tidier set for mine. I put on a 5 speed SA hub ( which I really don¹t care for at all). The plastic trigger is a gum machine toy. So I am trying it with two SA triggers. While I like the ratios it still feels clunky. I purchased the extended seatpost from Harris Cyclery, changed the rims to 1.75 weinmans, put on Primos and the bike does alright. I also put on the B-66 saddle. On a recent trip to Germany I bought a superb lighting system. The sidewall dynamo is super efficient, the halogen front light is very bright and the rear light has a stay lit while stopped LED feature that is just great. I put on a computer, front and rear baskets, and clipless pedals. It is maneuverable and feels very sporty. I have put it in trunks of cars and but have yet to take it on a plane trip. I¹d probably take the Dl-1 on a Century before I took the Twenty. The Twenty is nearly a perfect commuter though. It is also a fun project bike. Next I¹m going to install a Nexus 7 speed hub. The brakes leave a bit to be desired so I may change out the front fork to the Harris recommended Haro fork and change the front brakes then.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh twenty posted by ChristopherRobin on 8/4/2000 at 8:08:14 AM
Thanks guys! This is great.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Decals for old Roadster? posted by: Nick on 7/24/2000 at 10:40:45 PM
I have a late 50's early 60's Rpadster. I was wondering if there is anywhere I can get the origional decals for the bike....

Thanks for any info


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Decals for old Roadster? posted by Bill H on 7/26/2000 at 9:35:31 AM
Nick, try this website: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/NICK_AT_LLOYDS/

MISC:   English bicycles posted by: Art on 7/24/2000 at 12:51:18 PM
Rent the Movie "Angela's Ashes' if you want to see a whole slew of English roadsters riding around the streets of Limerick, Ireland.

   RE:MISC:   English bicycles posted by Michael on 7/25/2000 at 9:41:14 AM
And "Land Girls" to see a bunch more along the muddy lanes of Dorset.

MISC:   Tour de France posted by: Fred on 7/23/2000 at 11:44:36 PM
I waited all day Sunday for the final day coverage of the tour. Just as the program started, I received an important phone call so in a panic put a tape in the VCR to record the hour. My call ended at 7:55 so I waited and then rewound the tape and hit "play".....nothing. Is it really true that we adults need an 8 year old kid to show us how to operate these things? What a dissapointment. How many of you were disgusted over the measly coverage of the tour? One of the greatest sporting events in the world and we get half an hour each day with an hour on weekends. The weekday shows are a lot of commercials and MTV like flashes of action which mean nothing. They are put in for the crowd that thrives on that sort of thing. At last some recapped race scenes of short duration then back to the MTV stuff. I have heard that Outdoor Life Network will provide live coverage next year. By the way OLN is doing more for biking than anything I have seen in a while.

   RE:MISC:   Tour de France posted by Oscar on 7/24/2000 at 9:22:37 AM
My newspaper had a paragraph or two each day, though nothing jumped out today in Sports or News. Imagine if there was no Lance, there'd be no American coverage.

MISC:   Reflection on a good day posted by: Wings on 7/23/2000 at 11:18:39 PM
My morning ride was great! Just one of those days where it all came together. I enjoyed the uphills. I loved the downhills. I loved the wind, the odors and the scenery. I am just so thankful that I can ride a bike!

   RE:MISC:   Reflection on a good day posted by Oscar on 7/24/2000 at 3:33:55 PM
The sign of a pure ride - he didn't mention anything about the bike. You transcended it, Wings!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies Robin Hood posted by: Tina on 7/23/2000 at 10:34:11 PM
I just found a ladies Robin Hood and been reading this web site to find out more information on it. What I have noticed is that all the discussions and pictures are about multi speed bikes. I have a single speed. Does this tell me anything specific about this bike? Also, the filler cap on the sturmy archer rear hub is plastic and brittle. From what I understand I will need to oil the hub through this hole, but don't want to risk breaking the plastic. Any suggestions? Any information for me??

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies Robin Hood posted by Tina on 7/23/2000 at 10:50:47 PM
Update! Now that I think of it the sturmey archer rear hub may be a multi speed, but I'm just not sure. It's an "SC" with a #70 and a #9. maybe this will help identify it.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies Robin Hood posted by Wings on 7/23/2000 at 11:15:09 PM
Please understand that I am the resident Schwinn guy (Schwinn did use some SA hubs!). The experts will respond and correct me if I am wrong.
1. The "SC" is a one speed Coaster Brake. If you have a multi speed hub you would have a hollow axle on one side with a little chain that would be coming out of a bell shaped nut on that axle.
2. The 70 is the year the hub was manufactured.
3. The experts should be able to tell you about the plastic cap. Do not oil the hub until you hear from them!

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies Robin Hood posted by phil on 7/24/2000 at 6:28:10 AM
Gently pry the plastic top of the cap up. If it comes up without the little strap breaking, great. Go ahead and add oil to the hub (about a teaspoon) of light weight oil (Singer sewing machine oil is good).

If the whole cap comes off (both the top and the part that screws down into the hole) put it on your kitchen table and gently try to pry or twist the top part out of the "socket". Once separated, screw the thing back into the hub by using a wood pencil gently jammed into the hole of the cap. Good luck, don't worry.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies Robin Hood posted by Tina on 7/30/2000 at 12:20:59 PM
Phil, Thanks for the advice. The plastic "cap" had already lost it's hinge so I just twisted the whole thing out and voila! I was able to add oil and reinsert it.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tour De France posted by: Clyde on 7/23/2000 at 8:58:11 PM
I don't know about you other British bike owners, but all the Tour de France coverage made me want to go out and ride a fast French lightweight; so I rode my PX-10 on Saturday and my Tour de France on Sunday. Yep, they're still fast for 30 and 27 year old bikes, but I would not want to use them daily like my Raleigh Sports and Sprites. Congratulations to Armstrong. May he inspire us all.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tour De France posted by Oscar on 7/24/2000 at 3:28:49 PM
I got into a race with a guy riding a Trek U.S. Postal Team road bike. Supposedly the same as Lance's with about 5 spokes for both tires. Although I was on my "fast bike", a Raliegh Supercourse, I let him win one for the U.S.A.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tour De France posted by Keith on 7/31/2000 at 9:40:35 AM
For the same reason I've been favoring my paramount lately -- though it's a P-15 touring model. PS -- Please sell me your Super Course. Thanks!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tour De France posted by laura on 8/8/2000 at 10:24:17 AM
It sounds like we may have a similar bike. Do you know much about the Raleigh sports? Does yours have Stumey Archer shifter and brooks saddle? DO you have good leads on what an original looked like? Was yours "made exclusively by Marshall Fields and Co" as ours was? Let's compare notes.

AGE / VALUE:   Hercules 3 speed ,made inNottingham England posted by: Terry on 7/23/2000 at 7:19:55 PM
I have just acquired a gem bearing a Hercules nameplate on the front but no sign of AMF anywhere on the bike. This bike is in fair condition with good chrome, all reflectors in tact. It has a Sturmey-Archer AW hub marked with 66 10. Could this bike have been manufactured prior to AMF? And does this make a difference? If anyone could help me determine the value and age of this bike, I would appreciate it.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules 3 speed ,made inNottingham England posted by Fred on 7/23/2000 at 11:42:50 PM
Terry: I have 2 Hercules bikes of the same vintage, one has the AMF logo on the chainguard, the other does not. AMF simply marketed the bikes with their logo pasted on. If you would like to see my AMF Hercules, go to: "fredhaj.tripod.com", the Raleigh made bikes section. You will also find an early non-raleigh Hercules racer there also. A while back we kicked this subject around quite a lot-look in the archives.

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh sighting posted by: Warren on 7/23/2000 at 7:09:01 PM
I saw a beautiful single speed Raleigh, enclosed chainguard, racing green, aluminum rims at a lawnbowling club...figures. It was a Club Deluxe and looked very much like a Pashley or a dutch bike beacause of the very square angles the handlebars take.Just thought I'd mention it cause I've never heard of one before.

AGE / VALUE:   Check it out posted by: ChristopherRobin on 7/22/2000 at 8:41:10 AM
Take a look at the beautiful colors on the bikes! Go to http://www. gazelle.nl./p_ho.htm
I was searching for information on a old Raleigh Gazelle 3 speed sports model bike and came across the web site for GAZELLE (Dutch) and so I took a look at the product line and these are really magnificent! Looks like 700 C wheels and light enclosed guards!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Check it out posted by Fred on 7/23/2000 at 8:06:03 AM
Chris: I checked out the Gazelle site as you suggested, marvelous. The number of models available is staggering. Shows you what will be provided if the market is there. Tip to all: the Kleur Enquete section shows all the colors available. Incidentally I couldn't get the site using the URL you provided but searched with the key words; Gazelle bicycles Netherlands, and got into a site that had a link to the gazelle site. I see a few Dutch bikes in FL each winteer, mostly Batavus. Sure would like to have one.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Check it out posted by JohnM on 7/26/2000 at 1:45:21 PM
I saw another great current production bike on a German site at www.raddiscount.de/P01008.html - looks like a 'Sports' executed in modern materials, complete with a choice of 3, 5, or 7 speed SRAM hub. I'd be tempted to order one if my German were a little better. Much more variety in the European market than over here.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wulfruna????? posted by: Peter Hällström on 7/22/2000 at 1:50:21 AM
I had a note on this site dated 07/08/00 asking for information regarding my Wulfruna but nobody seams to know anything. If you are qurious you can visit my brothers homepage: http://members.chello.se/tony.hallstrom and click the words "orörd" and "reducerat" and view the black bike.
Anybody know if there is a local brittish discussion area or any other good way to find out the history of my bike, I have received some information but it only relates to the turn of the century (100 years ago) and my bike seams to be from 1957 if the rear dynohub is original.
Thanks all you nice people out there making this site a joyride on every visit. / Peter

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wulfruna????? posted by Peter Hällström on 7/22/2000 at 9:03:16 AM
Yes, I have mailed The V-CC a few days ago but no answer yet and I also received some confusing information regarding the early years and Wearwell Cycles taking over Wulfruna and an end of production in 1940 this indicating my bike being pre-war, is this posible?
I will mail you as soon as I get any further information /Peter

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wulfruna????? posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/23/2000 at 9:24:04 AM
I think now you understand how incomplete, spotty so much of our bicycle history really is. I meet friends who have large collections and over lunch they look at me and say "I don't know, thats a good question" I will do what I did with Raleigh and try to get some information.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wulfruna????? posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/22/2000 at 8:17:45 AM
I am looking for information on it, have you tried the Vetran Cycle Club in England? I will ask a old timer who may know on Monday. Keep in touch.

   Crack the secret of Wulfruna! posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/25/2000 at 10:13:50 AM
My oh my! This one is a tough nut to crack! Really! I am working on it please e-mail me. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com