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Archived: English Roadsters

FOR SALE:   Bicycle and Parts for sale page UPDATED posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 9/2/2000 at 3:38:37 PM

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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   For Sale; 1966 Raleigh Sport posted by: Mark on 9/2/2000 at 12:40:01 PM
Bike is a men's 23 inch frame w/26" wheels; 3-spd Sturmey-Archer). Original Brookes saddle in excellent condition. Chrome has some pitting; paint is pretty good on frame and fenders; all decals and medallions are attached.
I've got some pictures I can e-mail all interested parties. I have a Pay-Pal account to make payment easier.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Specifications posted by: Jon on 9/1/2000 at 6:24:20 PM
I was a factory certified mechanic at a Raleigh/Schwinn dealer(one of the largest in the country) from 1971 to 1991 and still have some reference materials on hand. I would be more than happy to share them with anybody needing technical assistance.
I also have one of the last, if not the last Raleigh Tourist imported by a U.S Dealer in 1980. The date code on the S. A. hub is January, 1980. I also have the sales receipt somewhere. All original out of the box, assembled by me. It still has a factory seam down the middle of the tires. Aside from a few scuffs on the paint and minute pitting on the rims, it's in excellent condition. At this point I wouldn't think of selling it. But if the price were right, you never know.......
Anyway, enough rambling. Any questions regarding the techie stuff (i.e. How many balls in the large RH bearing race of a Sturmey Archer AW hub?) I'll try to answer right here. It looks like a great forum. Thanks!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Specifications posted by ChristopherRobin on 9/2/2000 at 11:54:49 AM
There are 24 balls no more in the right hand bearing race. Welcome aboard! This is a wonderful forum!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Specifications posted by Bill Putnam on 9/6/2000 at 8:40:50 AM

Here's a couple questions for you. What size and how many
ball bearings in the upper and lower races of a Dunelt
(Raleigh B-line)headset? Right now the headset binds after
riding for a bit, but if I stop and rotate the handlebars
180 degrees back and forth a few times the headset frees
up and steers easily for a while.

Any source for NOS BB spindles for a Raleigh Sports? I
have about a dozen spindles and all the bearing surfaces
are shot on these. Found a cheap imitation new but the
left hand side is too long and places the left hand crank
arm out nearly an inch beyond where it should be.



   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Specifications posted by Jon on 9/7/2000 at 7:33:35 PM
The headset should have 25 - 5/32 balls top and bottom (50).
The binding you describe could be any one or any combination of these things: 1. Bearings jammed between the fork and head tube. 2 Slightly bent fork tube. 3. Misaligned or worn races. 4. Damaged fork threads. 5. Mismatched components.
As for the BB spindle, I recall that spindle lengths varied greatly even within a particular model(in-production changes). When I couldn't locate a new spindle I used to carefully grind the old one on the rounded corner of a grinding wheel, adjusting the angle of the spindle to get the closest possible match. It takes a steady hand to take it down evenly. And it works even better if you can mount the spindle in a large drill chuck to spin it. You also must have a few extra threads showing on the BB adjusting cup to take up the slack. The less material you have to take off the better.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Specifications posted by Bill Putnam on 9/8/2000 at 7:14:59 AM

Thanks for the information. I will look for the obvious
problems first, then possibly face the head tube. Thanks
for the tip on the spindles as well. I'll try chucking
the spindle in a lathe and then use my hand grinder mounted
in place of the cutter to make sure it's ground concentric
to the spindle. Maybe my old spindles still have some
life in them!

FOR SALE:   Raleigh Superbe posted by: Gary Burkhalter on 9/1/2000 at 1:39:53 PM
Bought new in 1968: Dyna-hub, Brooks saddle, fork lock, etc. Excellent condition. Will e-mail photos to interested parties.
Best offer.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Space Rider posted by: Joe on 9/1/2000 at 7:35:47 AM
Can anyone tell me anything about a British Raleigh childs bicycle called the "Space Rider"? It is a scaled down version of a "Sports" model with 24" tires and coaster rear/caliper front brakes. The top frame has a wonderful decal of an astronaut with the words "Space Rider". The rear hub is dated 69.
Any info or thoughts appreciated.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Space Rider posted by Jon on 9/2/2000 at 7:43:56 AM
The Space Rider wasn't a terribly popular bike because a kid could go right from the 20" Chopper to a 26" model. In a store that sold 2 to 3 thousand bikes a year we were lucky if 12 of them were Space Riders. And as I recall Bronze Green wasn't a very popular color with the kids either. I believe it also came in blue and red later.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Space Rider posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 9/2/2000 at 1:06:45 PM
I believe more were sold in England then in the U.S.

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Superbe parts posted by: Bob on 8/31/2000 at 8:07:32 AM
What is the correct (i.e., factory spec) Brooks leather saddle for a 1972 Raleigh Superbe? Also, this bike will need a new chain and new tires (26"x 1 3/8" I think). Any suggestions on the right chain and tires, plus sources? Thanks much.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Superbe parts posted by phil on 9/1/2000 at 5:56:35 AM
Should be a Brooks B66, I believe. On earlier Superbes this is definitely true, but on the post 1970 models I am guessing.

AGE / VALUE:   F/S ladies Raleigh posted by: sam on 8/31/2000 at 7:09:44 AM
For sail nice little ladies yellow raleigh sprint,made in Nottingham England.price $20 plus shipping.Original raleigh made bike,not a Tiwann model.Has 10 speeds in the upright riding possion,raleigh pedals,raleigh self-a-justing hand brakes,cute red&silver "R" nuts on front axel,and has rear carrier.26"wheels(no rust on wheels)needs tubes,tires look O.K. Bike needs cleaning & servicing.I don't sell bikes as a rule but when I saw this one I just couldn't leave it and let it go to Mexico.Just though one of the ladies here might like it---sam--if interested e-mail me samclingo@hotmail.com

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   F/S ladies Raleigh posted by sam on 8/31/2000 at 8:46:38 AM
Model should be Sprite,sorry my mistake

MISC:   Brooks B-66 posted by: Randy on 8/30/2000 at 9:21:45 PM
I found a beautiful B-66 at a bike show. It's mostly tan in color now, but looks as though it was much darker, maybe black originally. Does anyone know how I can restore that color? Thanks, Randy

   RE:MISC:   Brooks B-66 posted by Mike Q. on 8/31/2000 at 1:00:51 PM
I use Tandy's Cova Color black leather dye on my skuffed and worn Brooks saddles. Covers well and doesn't rub off.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Brooks B-66 posted by red on 8/31/2000 at 10:21:11 PM
How about saddle bags? I have a seat-attached bag which has leather fastening straps on the verge of falling apart. Is there any hope of restoring the straps?

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Brooks B-66 posted by Mike Q. on 9/1/2000 at 10:46:32 AM
Suitable replacement leather straps of all sizes and kinds can be found in horse or dog supply stores. Again, use leather dye to change the color if desired.

AGE / VALUE:    english roadster? posted by: racerrex on 8/30/2000 at 6:52:50 PM
I just picked up a Fuji Cambridge III. It has an odd camelback hump in the top frame tube, 3 speed thumb shift, high tensile steel tubing frame. It looks like the Japanese version of a Raleigh. Any info would be helpful, year, history, where I might find out more. Thanks.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    english roadster? posted by Keith on 8/31/2000 at 10:45:15 AM
Sheldon Brown's site (www.sheldonbrown.com) has an article on Japanese lightweights, and Cycles de Oro (www.cyclesdeoro) has a page too.

AGE / VALUE:   information/value posted by: jon hill on 8/30/2000 at 6:27:34 PM
I have a couple of ancient delivery bikes gathering rust at the back of my house, and wanted some info (and a possible value).

One is a ladies bike with the badge: "Federation CWS (Birmingham)" on the front, the other has no labels or markings I can find. They both single speed, have a small front wheel, with a basket above (Still have the original baskets) and rod brakes for front and rear.I know they were both in use around 1930 as delivery bikes for my late grandads Butchers shop. I know CWS means "Co-op Wholesale Society", but I don't know much else!

Any information (or a place where I could find more information) would be appreciated.


Jon Hill

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   information/value posted by JimW. on 9/5/2000 at 4:34:35 PM
I have no idea what these bikes would have to collectors, but
you should be able to realize a regular income from owning them
as film props. The key is to register them with prop rental
agencies. When anyone is dressing a set of the proper period,
they would rejoice at having the possibility of a period bike
messenger riding through the shot. Everyone who has a classic
bike type should be registered. Hint: if you own period costume,
you can also easily earn pay as an extra on the production.

MISC:   Help?? posted by: Greg on 8/30/2000 at 10:22:01 AM
I'm new to the "older bike club" and am curious as to what NOS means or refers to on the for sale items area. Any help?
I got hooked a few weeks ago when I saw and bought a 1971 Raleigh Superbe in beautiful condition - absolutely no rust or dents - with everything original. The only item it doesn't have is the pump - anybody have one for sale? Thanks.

   RE:MISC:   Help?? posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 8/30/2000 at 1:59:20 PM
N.O.S. means: new, old stock this means it was never used, never let out of the wrapper or out of the box or crate. never mounted on a bike. There could be slight dirt, "shop wear" as they say.

AGE / VALUE:   all information posted by: craig on 8/29/2000 at 10:05:40 PM
can someone please tell me about a bike i just got at a pawn shop its raleigh\carlton and the model is called corsair thanks for any help

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   all information posted by sam on 8/30/2000 at 8:51:23 AM
Craig, check out the vintage lightweight group not to far down on the page they talk about carlton bikes--sam

FOR SALE:   Puch Rugby Sports (DL1 copy) posted by: jim on 8/29/2000 at 12:02:45 PM
Puch Rugby Sports - Looks like a DL1. Enclosed chain,58cm, 27" Weinmann alu. rims & Weinmann self centering side pull calipers, alu north road handlebar & stem, full fenders, Soubitez lighting, bottle gen on brazed fork mount, fender integral tail lite, internal wiring, Brooks B66, SA 3spd, Puch bell, dk brown metallic, a handsome superior commuting bike. $150

   RE:FOR SALE:   Puch Rugby Sports (DL1 copy) posted by Morgan Groves on 9/3/2000 at 10:32:55 AM
The Puch Rugby Sport really isn't much like the DL1 in my opinion and experience. I have one of each, and the Puch is a much more sophisticated bike with more upright geometry and a more responsive ride. The Puch is the best-equipped commuter bike I've ever seen.
I also love the DL1, but it's more like a 1925 Rolls Royce, where the Puch might be analogous to a 1959 Mercedes.

AGE / VALUE:   He didn'y win the lottery he just sold that old bike. posted by: ChristopherRobin on 8/29/2000 at 7:13:17 AM
I pulled up into the driveway of this garage sale and spotted a ladies Dunelt with the "D fork" I walked up slowly, with a grin on my face, trying not to show my excitement at finding a English bike at this garage sale.( the pickings in the area are not good and I am not seeing bikes anywhere) I casually asked how much the bike was. He said " 5 bucks" I said "sold" Boy, was he glad to be rid of this thing!! He jumped up and ran over to me all excited and jumped up and down and bellowed"Yahoo It's gone at last! Seems he regarded this bike like the intestenal flu,he was glad to be rid of it. It was in the way, and he hated it big time. Belonged to a grown daughter and if I was there a day earlier I would have seen and perhaps gotten a Schwinn too. I have never seen someone so excited to be rid of a old bike like this guy. The bike made our day, both of us! I used up all my spare change and loaded it on the rack. I turned my head and wondered how anyone could not want to keep this with the cool Dunelt fork, it is such a nice little bike. A day later I have replaced the headset and I am sitting at my workbench turning the fork back and forth after adjusting it.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Brooks Saddles posted by: Clyde on 8/28/2000 at 8:01:31 PM
Last week I had the pleasure of riding on a club ride lead by the owner of Wallingford Bicycle Parts (check them out at www.wallbike.com). I finally found someone with more Brooks saddles than me, but of course most of his are for sale! It turned out to be a wonderful ride on the levee bike path - Bill on his DL-1, his wife on her Bianchi, and me on an Armstrong 3-speed. At the turn-around point, Bill and I swapped bikes for the return ride. Boy, do I wish I had a real DL-1 instead of my Avon roadster clone! OK, I should have bid on the e-Bay DL-1 that recently went for $150, but I need to unload some Sports and Sprites first. Anyway, after returning to their house for after-ride pizza, I got the tour of the stockroom - wow, what a lot of Brooks leather saddles! All I purchased a Brooks tensioning wrench, but I'll be back (an ancient B-72 and a B-17 are both about to rip thru at the nose and will need replacement soon). So, if you need the right saddle to top off your English bike, it's a great source to check out.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Brooks Saddles posted by Kevin C. on 8/28/2000 at 8:43:45 PM
The Big Daddy of the Brooks line, the B-90/3, provides the nicest ride I've ever experienced, and it looks just right on on a big old DL-1. It is so nice to see something of such obvious high quality in an age of throw-away products.