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Archived: English Roadsters

AGE / VALUE:   A little history posted by: sam on 1/1/2001 at 8:54:16 AM
Every time I go to Hanks Shop I learn something new.Good thing for me I live so far away or I'd ware out my welcome.Hank showed me a Mercury(not the U.S. brand by murray).Mercury was the brand of bikes used on the British air fields in WW-2.They were the mother of all rodesters,tyres the with of a ballooner,spokes like a motorcycle,chang and sprocket extra thick,and rod brakes of coarse.Forgot the pedals,Must have been 1&1/2" wide!This one came to the U.S. aboard a B-17. HAPPY NEW YEAR--YA'LL--sam

AGE / VALUE:   Jim Huntingtons Swap Show Date posted by: Peter Naiman on 12/31/2000 at 10:28:27 PM
Jim Huntington is holding his show and swap in Monson, Mass on Rt. 32 at
Memorial Hall on Main St. Set up time 7-8:00am Date: Sunday February 11th,
call Jim Huntington Days: 413-283-4113
Nights: 413-267-5230 Call up until 10:00PM
If not in leave a message and Jim will call back/ Swap spaces $20.00 call
early as this show will fill up fast. A Judged bike show will also be held
with awards given.

WANTED:   Headlight for Raleigh Sport posted by: thetoyking on 12/31/2000 at 7:19:01 AM
I am looking for a Headlight that will fit the light bracket on the front of a 69 Raleigh Sport. It does not have a Dyno Hub so I will need the generator tailight as well. Looking for a nice set in great working order. I have some english stuff to trade including a Hercules frame and wheels. Please e-mail with what you have. Thanks!

MISC:   Snow job posted by: Oscar on 12/30/2000 at 9:43:26 PM
A bit snowy for a bike ride, huh? Naahhh!

AGE / VALUE:   Jim Huntingtons Bike Show/ Monson, Mass posted by: Peter Naiman on 12/30/2000 at 5:04:58 PM
Jim Huntington is holding his show and swap in Monson, Mass on Rt. 32 at Memorial Hall on Main St. Set up time 7-8:00am
call Jim Huntington Days: 413-283-4113
Nights: 413-267-5230
If not in leave a message and Jim will call back/ Swap spaces $20.00 call early as this show will fill up fast. A Judged bike show will also be held with awards given.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   My Roadster hat trick posted by: Fred on 12/30/2000 at 1:45:52 PM
I recently scored a hat trick (Warren and hockey fans know that this is what they call it when a hockey player scores 3 times in a game), in the game of DL-1 Roadster acquisition. This 3rd one was in a garage sale about a half mile from my Florida home. A friend alerted me to the bike. I went to see it late in the day not knowing if it was still there. It was, and after a little dickering, it was mine. Do I need it? Need ain't in it, I want to save these bikes. This one is rough but works well, even the brakes. In fact this one's brakes work many times better than my other two Roadsters. Like the others, it is not optioned up at all. It is a true stealth machine having been painted black all over except for the bars, stem, and crank arms. It appears to be quite rusty under the paint. Nevertheless it rides very well. As are my other 2 Roadsters, it is tall at 26 inches. I seem to find a lot of tall bikes. I ride 'em anyway. I like to be perched up where I can look over other riders heads. The seat is one of those expensive "health seats" consisting of two separate pads that pivot and can be adjusted to fit a range of nether region parts of the rider. I find it uncomfortable and intend to put an old Brookes saddle on it. Now, where did you say you saw a roadster for sale?

AGE / VALUE:    Final curtain for Montgomery- Wards posted by: ChristopherRobin on 12/30/2000 at 8:32:02 AM
Montgomery-Wards is going out of business. 37,000 people will have to find another job and it is a terrible loss. Wards sold the bicycles, scooters and toys many of us grew up on.

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh LTD-SC posted by: Mark on 12/29/2000 at 8:23:45 PM
I would like to know if these are collectible and when they were manufactured. Were they higher end bikes or lower end cruisers?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh LTD-SC posted by mark on 12/31/2000 at 6:01:07 AM
These are not really collectable, but are nice albeit lower end, versions of the "Sports". I always thought that because of the lighter built wheels, that they ride a little faster. It would make a great user fer sure!

FOR SALE:   Raleigh 27" 10-Speed "Capri" posted by: Scoot on 12/29/2000 at 5:41:50 PM
This is a very nice example--very clean, great condition. The only problem is that I collect sting-rays and /or Krates, nothing else. I came across this bike unwillingly, so make me an offer. Actual S&H will be what-ever UPS Ground charges--no padding. This is a made in Tiawann Raleigh, but you guys prob. already knew that.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh 27 posted by Tim P. on 1/4/2001 at 7:48:04 PM
Thanks Scoot?, Scott. Tim P.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Help posted by: suzanne on 12/29/2000 at 1:10:48 PM
I have found two Raliegh bicycles. I would like to sell them but do not know where to start. One is a Raliegh Super Course 1967approx. the other is a Raliegh Rapide 1983 approx. Any ideas.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Help posted by Oscar on 12/29/2000 at 1:38:23 PM
The Super Course is somewhat desirable due to the quality and age. I think $100 would be a good price to pay for it. The Rapide isn't any big deal - the ones I've seen were garage sale bikes.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Help posted by Mark on 12/31/2000 at 6:05:46 AM
A Reynolds frame on the Super Course? If so that's a great old road racer! I recall they were fine, "mid priced" bikes. Makes me wish it were 1965 again!

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Help posted by Oscar on 12/31/2000 at 4:21:13 PM
Reynolds 531. Out of all my bikes, I ride it the most.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Help posted by Keith on 1/2/2001 at 9:30:52 AM
I don't know what the Super Course specs were in 1967, but in the early 70s they were straight gauge Reynolds 531 main tubes -- not top of the line, but still nice. The early 70s models used Nervex Pro lugs, which showed up on better name brand models, like Schwinn Paramount, Raleigh Internatinal, Peugeot PX-10, etc. I agree $100 would be a fair price, assuming it's complete and in good shape (no rust or dents). If it's 23 or 24" c-t, I may be interested myself. Feel free to email me.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire cleats for snow and ice posted by: WesK on 12/29/2000 at 10:54:18 AM
This winter, manyareas are getting hit harder than usual with snow and ice.
Here in Oklahoma, we have had snow and ice on the ground for almost 3 weeks
now. And we all know how hard it is to get around on ice, but, with a pair of
steel cleated golf shoes, you can walk around as if the streets and sidewalks were
dry. So why not take some old bike tires and using some roofing nails with
large heads make some cleated ice and snow tires? I know a few of you have
probably done this, (Sheldon?) but I haven't, and would like to give it a try.
I'm going to have to, because walking is much to slow. Any suggestions before I start?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire cleats for snow and ice posted by Studded tires on 12/29/2000 at 11:27:46 AM
There are carbide tipped studded tires available for modern bike rims...both 26" mtn and 700c hybrid styles. The 700s will fit on the smaller of the 28 inch rims...I believe its a 622 diameter and not the 635. If you really want to try studding a standard english tire you should use very small screws and alternate from side to side every inch or so. They should just barely make contact when you are seated on the bike. They should just penetrate the surface of the tire and you should also use a tire liner or some layers of duct tape to prevent the screws from backing into your tube. Frankly the manufactured studded tires are worth the money. Either ride a mtn/hybrid bike for the winter or builds new wheels/rims for your roadsters. I ride a hybrid in the winter and personally think it's a good use of cheap bikes. They tend to have better stopping power and who cares if they rust. You will love these tires.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire cleats for snow and ice posted by Warren, alias studded tires on 12/29/2000 at 11:29:15 AM
Wrong name wot?

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire cleats for snow and ice posted by WesK on 12/30/2000 at 11:26:24 AM
Thanks Warren!!!!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Tire cleats for snow and ice posted by ron on 12/30/2000 at 4:12:02 PM
Wes, I just rode my home made studded tires home, swerving to hit the ice whenever possible and had a great ride doing so! I got the idea from the ICEBIKE.COM website (check there if my directions are not clear). I started with 26 inch mtb knobbies. Mark your holes by pushing an awl through the tire from the outside. Then run a #8 x 3/8" long phillips-headed sheetmetal screw through from the inside with a drill motor. Next, thread (by hand) a #8 x 32 tpi machine nut on the protruding screw tip (it will not thread very far--yet). Then, using the drill to turn the sheetmetal screw and a nut driver to hold the nut, force the nut down onto the screw until it causes the tire surface to bulge slightly from the pressure. Do not get carried away with the drill or you could push the screw all the way through the tread. If you should do this, simply back the screw out, fit it with a #8 washer, and run it back through the tread and the nut as described above

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Danish Raleighs posted by: Dewane on 12/29/2000 at 7:26:58 AM
I apologize if you have already seen this, but check out this collection of Raleighs: http://www.citycykler.dk/DK/cykler/raleigh.html Anybody know Danish, or kronor to dollars exchange rate?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Danish Raleighs posted by phil on 12/29/2000 at 8:44:34 AM
1 Kroner is .12568 US $. According to

Sköl (that's the limit of my Danish).

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Danish Raleighs posted by phil on 12/29/2000 at 8:51:21 AM
By the way, that would make the Raleigh Superbe about $600 and the Tourist Classic $450, approx.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Danish Raleighs posted by ChristopherRobin on 12/30/2000 at 8:55:58 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing this with us. I liked the page

AGE / VALUE:   Indian or Chinese Roadster posted by: Albert on 12/28/2000 at 2:47:59 PM
A question for the planetary community: I wish to purchase a new Indian or Chinese-made roadster. Any suggestions for a U.S. based source. I would especially like to hear from someone who has mail-order

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Indian or Chinese Roadster posted by sam on 12/28/2000 at 8:58:43 PM
Indian single-speed are avalible in Nevo-Laredo,no mail order that I know of through that bike shop.But you can order on-line the Benotto,made in mexico,from the factory.www.benotto.com.mx When you log on go to "other models"and look at the 1-speed and also the 5-speed super tourester(allo-rims in 28")the price is in pasos so divide by 9 to get app. u.s. price.I have not ordered from then so this is for your info only ---sam Ps read Spanish?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Indian or Chinese Roadster posted by dave on 12/29/2000 at 8:36:07 AM
Yellow Jersey in Madison WI imports the India made Neelams, a DL-1
clone. No connection to seller, etc ...

   I've ridden these bikes extensively in China posted by Mike Stone on 1/1/2001 at 10:31:05 PM
I've ridden the traditional 28" single speed bikes extensively through China. Naturally, they are not of the quality of the original British (Raleigh) bikes they immitated since about 1920, but they have a great deal of charm.

One thing to warn you about is quality. I found that some parts of the bike were well made and reliable. Others - like the pedals were miserable. One of my pedals literally fell apart after about 30 miles of use; bearings rolling down the road and everything.

Buy extra brake pads, tires, (pedals?) and all other possibly difficult parts as spares. Actually, these bikes are so affordable, you should be able to buy two and use one for spare parts.


   RE:I've ridden these bikes extensively in China posted by Keith on 1/2/2001 at 9:44:42 AM
In addition to DL-1s, I have owned and ridden a Chinese Forever DL-1 clone for several years. The Forever is a fun bike but not even close to Raleigh quality wise. It is very important to go over these Asian roadsters carefully -- I recommend a compleTe disassembly AND, MOST IMPORTANT, USE LOCTITE ON ALL OF THE THREADS!!!!! Also, replace every part that you can -- pedals, bearings, saddle springs, and most importantly bolts and nuts (go to your local Hardware store and get some nice hardened stainless metric stuff). The steel on these bikes is of poor quality -- soft, and the threads are cut to sloppy standards, and this is a very bad combination that will leave you stranded or without a brake, etc., if you don't prepare. That being said, it is possible to work out the bugs on these bikes and they are fun to ride.

AGE / VALUE:   Shimano sub. for Sturmey posted by: Albert on 12/28/2000 at 7:42:42 AM
Information for the planetary community: I have discovered that the Shimano 3-speed gear-change trigger will work perfectly well with the Sturmey AW hub. The adjuster sleeve must of course be changed to a SA type. This may be easily done by "grafting". The SA sleeve is taken with several inches of the origonal cable still attached; and, by using a pierced cable pinch-bolt from a disgarded brake caliper, the Sturmey sleeve is joined with the Shimano cable. Sometimes, the pinch-bolt hole must be slightly enlarged. this can be easily done by using a nail as a reamer. I have found the Shimano trigger easier to with mittens. Also, there is far less cable breakage with the Shimano; in fact, in over 30,000 miles of use distributed over several so equiped bikes, I have yet to suffer breakage. I find, on the other hand, that SA shifter regularly require cable replacement. The failure usually occurs very near the brass cable-end.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano sub. for Sturmey posted by Fred on 12/30/2000 at 10:19:08 AM
Albert, I wouldn't presume to question your claim that you are using a shimano 3 speed shifter in concert with a Sturmey/Archer hub, but I tried it one time and it didn't work. I adjusted it every way possible and always came up short one of the 3 speeds. I also prefer the Shimano shifter. I find it much easier to shift, especially when going from 1st to 3rd or 3rd to 1st. Concerning the cable life I don't have any experience over the long haul. Your experience prompts me to look at the shifter swap again. I wouldn't swap them on a Raleigh but I have a bunch of other makes to try it on.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano sub. for Sturmey posted by Albert on 12/31/2000 at 4:25:06 PM
Fred, glade to see that you'r willing to give it another go! The conversions work for me every time. Be sure that the SA indicator rod is fully screwed into the hub and that the cable is free to move in the sheath. A binding cable will not properly downshift. Good luck.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Shimano sub. for Sturmey posted by ChristopherRobin on 1/3/2001 at 3:00:40 PM
I have seen a few bicycles with Sturmey hubs and Shimano shifters. I have never drove a bike with this setup myself but will have to try it. I would rather see a Shimano hub with a Shimano shifter and Sturmey with Sturmey but if it is a more reliable set up and it works then thats great. Awhile ago, I rode my Humber to work and back and all over everywhere just like I did in the car and I remember the cable troubles I had!
Also had difficulty in finding cable long enough for use with the 28 inch wheel Raleigh Tourist D.L.1

I'm glad to see Albert's clever postings here. He enriches the group.

FOR SALE:   Odd Ball Tires posted by: the toy king on 12/27/2000 at 9:41:23 AM
I have come across some odd ball tires and need some info. They are also for sale. First one is a 24 x 1 /38 Carisle Skin Wall touring tire. Fits British rims. Also have a large number of 26 x 38c knobby tires. Not sure if these will work with english rims but they have an aggresive tread that is directional. Also a skin wall, made by Vee Rubber (thailand). If you are intersted in these tires please e-mail me. All are NOS. Thanks!