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Archived: English Roadsters

FOR SALE:   Pair of 1970's Raleigh Twenty posted by: Tom on 3/4/2001 at 5:36:20 PM
I have a pair of Twenty's that are in good condition. The paint has little damage and the mechanics work well. Willing to sell them as a pair. Please e mail with a bid, thanks

AGE / VALUE:   i want to sell posted by: rachel on 3/4/2001 at 5:18:16 PM
i have recently parted out two really nice British Gazelle bikes that were red kick back three speeds. i have all the parts except the frames i smashed and the wheel i ran over with my truck accidently ( it was the rear damn!) i was wondering if anyone out there would be interested in the forks, fenders, pedal cranks, sprockets, wheels, chain guards, hammer dented handle bars or good ones, and i kept one of the head badges. please e-mail me at rValluzzo@hotmail.com thanks please tell more about these bikes they were made in Nottingham England, which is really really cool!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   i want to sell posted by Tom on 3/7/2001 at 3:25:17 PM
I would be intrested in some of the bike parts.
I do not have an e-mail address so how would i get hold of you Rachel. I have a 1972 Gazeelle that i am working on. I need handle bars, a rear hub with wheel, and I am looking for a seat.

WANTED:   Used B72 Saddle wanted posted by: Leon on 3/4/2001 at 7:37:43 AM
I am trying to piece together an old 63 Raleigh 3 spd. I need a used B72 saddle in good condition with the clamp included. Willng to pay a fair price. This bike currently has a white twist grip gear shift. Do these work or should I change over to the trigger style? Any help and advice on this project would be most welcome! Leon

FOR SALE:   Unusual Churchill De Luxe Rod Brake posted by: Jim on 3/3/2001 at 2:04:52 PM
Unusual childs rod brake Churchill De Luxe for sale. Great badge with a lion. I'm guessing this bike is soon after WWII, I may be mistaken but that is my guess. Interesting little thing. "Tires" are hard rubber hose wired onto the rims. Great conversation piece. Check it out at http://bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/deluxe $75 BRO plus shipping

FOR SALE:   Prewar Rod Brake Raleigh posted by: Jim on 3/3/2001 at 2:03:18 PM
Unusual prewar womens rod brake Raleigh. This is a nice bike. Original Condition. One tire has been changed. Rear tire is a John Bull Roadster. Paint is in good condition with red pinstripping. Chrome is decent with the exception of some scaling on the handlebars. K7 three speed hub in rear(yes pre AW) Early style shifter. Bike is ridable. Some denting in the front fender, I'll try to get it rolled out soon. I believe this to be a 1937. Bike is CHEAP at $150 plus shipping Check it out at http://bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/rodbrake

   RE:FOR SALE:   Prewar Rod Brake Raleigh posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 3/4/2001 at 1:28:31 PM
This has the long headtube, doesn't it? Good price. This has a diffrent feel than the later ladies frames. I love this bike.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Prewar Rod Brake Raleigh posted by Jim on 3/4/2001 at 3:35:36 PM
This does have the long head tube. Unusual bike.

FOR SALE:   1979 Raleigh Sports posted by: Jim on 3/3/2001 at 2:01:43 PM
Continuing the British Invasion. Here is a nice clean 1979 Raleigh Sports. Yes still made in England. All original with the exception of the rear hub. Saddle is a Brooks. I swapped in a coaster brake SA three speed. I will ship the original hub out with the bike though. Nice rider. Good paint. Good chrome. Maybe your new spring commuter. $125 plus shipping. Check it out at http://www.coconutgirls.com/bikeyard/sports

   RE:FOR SALE:   1979 Raleigh Sports posted by Jim on 3/3/2001 at 2:06:46 PM
Frame size is 21"

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   1979 Raleigh Sports posted by Jim on 3/5/2001 at 11:06:16 AM
This one has gone to ebay. Seller name Thriumph

FOR SALE:   1958 Raleigh Sports w/Dyno& Light posted by: Jim on 3/3/2001 at 1:58:55 PM
Another nice English Classic for sale. This one is a nice 1958 Raleigh Sports. Paint is in super condition with the exception of the rear fender. The rear fender has some scratches. Chrome is in good condition. Decals are excellent with some wear on the rear fender decal. It even has the fender tip decal up front. This is a very nice bike. Rides well and is original. It is missing the rear bullet style tail light. The dyno and the front light work.
Comfortable Brooks saddle. Check it out at http://bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/raleigh I have other photos and other bikes available as well. Price is $175 plus shipping. If you like it do not hesitate it will not be listed for long. Frame size is 21"

   RE:FOR SALE:   1958 Raleigh Sports w/Dyno& Light posted by Jim on 3/8/2001 at 4:14:57 AM
Bike is sold.

WANTED:   Advice again posted by: Bruce on 3/3/2001 at 10:51:24 AM
Me again, I have a 58 Raleigh Superbe 26", with 4 speed dynohub in rear. I am needing to gear down for the hills for an upcoming ride. I have 18/46 ratio now I believe. I am considering going to a 20/46 if it will fit in the enclosed chain case, if it won't fit I may well go with a 22/46 and install an open chain case. Pros/Cons? I am looking for the needed cog as well. Thanks in advance, you guys are my best source of advice on these British bikes. Not much but new yuppie bikes here in the Dallas area.

   RE:WANTED:   Advice again posted by Christopherrobin@starmail.com on 3/3/2001 at 1:41:14 PM
You can use a 20 tooth cog inside the rear gearcase. Go slowly in installing it. To remove the enclosed dustcover gearcase detracts from the allure of the machine. But if you are out away from home and need to change a tire and you want to be able to do it on the fly then leave the gearcase at home. The dustcover plate on the Sturmey-Archer hub should be smeared with grease on the inside of it. Also this particular piece is ommitted when you are using the enclosed chaincase on the bike.

   RE:WANTED:   Advice again posted by Bruce on 3/3/2001 at 5:51:25 PM
Thanks Christopher, I will go with the 20 tooth. I would rather have the chaincover on and have a slightly lower gearing. There will be over 1,000 bikes on this 150 mile ride, so we will have plenty of vehicles to assist us in case of trouble. If I have cramps or something I can always ride in a van and do other things Bruce

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   philips posted by: AJ on 3/2/2001 at 6:22:24 PM
gin 2 buy a 3 speed lite weight bike in the morning,is red and has the philipps name on it ,looks like a ralieh,can anyone shed any lite on this bike? thanks AJ

AGE / VALUE:   Somebody write the book! posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 3/2/2001 at 12:57:01 PM
I would love to see a book out that covers the history of New Departure. The factory, the people, the founder, the various products made, what they made for the war effort. the whole story! It is time!

AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item#1118254908 New Departure Front Brake posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 3/2/2001 at 12:53:00 PM
Take a look at this thing! Never, ever seen one, never thought they made this. Whoa, this is crazy.

E-bay item #11182554908 New Departure Front Brake
No relation to seller, not my auction, and first one I have ever seen.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item#1118254908 New Departure Front Brake posted by sam on 3/2/2001 at 5:59:54 PM
Doesn't shimano nexus make a hub brake for the front?(roller brake)Is it anything like the old "new departuer" hub brake?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item#1118254908 New Departure Front Brake posted by Warren on 3/2/2001 at 6:55:19 PM
Sturmey-Archer made one or two like it from the 30s to the 50s. An "AH" or "AB" hub perhaps? I've got one but it's in the shed and I'm not going out thru the snow again today. Check out that hi res pic of the SA lineup...I don't know the URL but Sheldon has it listed on his site.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item#1118254908 New Departure Front Brake posted by Greg Groth on 3/2/2001 at 9:42:31 PM
I have some info here on a Model WD most likely from the 40's. Info starts as follows...

"Good News!
This very successful and popular brake for bicycle front wheels, made from 1937 to 1942, is back in production --- better than ever."

Parts list, and exploded drawings show that the brake operates in much the same manner as the Model D. There is a series of alternating disks, one is slotted and is stationary on the axle, the other has ears and is stationary to the hub. The end of the arm in which the cable attatched is attatched to a cam which forces the alternating disks together and providing braking.

I hope to get this info, as well as some stuff on their 2 and 3 speed conversion kits posted on my web site in the near future. I'll drop a post here when I do.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item#1118254908 New Departure Front Brake posted by Paul on 3/12/2001 at 6:27:18 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a New Departure Coaster Brake (Rear) Hub, not a front hub?. The left hand
axle nut is missing - it was called a "step" - being made
extra long and knurled. One mounted the bike from the rear by grasping the handlebars and stepping onto the "step" with
the right foot, and swinging the left leg over. A hangover
from the early fixed-wheel days. Seems the BMX bikes use 'em
these days.
I think that is a torque reaction arm, not a brake lever arm. It is held by a clip to the left hand seat stay, in the
usual fashion. I doubt anyone ever made a front brake hub like this. Further, I have a hunch that the brake mechanism
inside is simply an expanding drum type thing, similar to most other coaster brakes, as it is operated by a cone, a
thread and a clutch. All the same, it is indeed an nice unit. Cheers.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Great British Bike Weekend in Phila posted by: Michael McGettigan on 3/1/2001 at 8:36:38 PM
Just a quick reminder that this year's Great British Bike Weekend is set for April 6, 7 & 8 - 2001 in Philadelphia PA.
for more info, check www.trophybikes.com or 215.625.7999 or even eail mcget@aol.com

McG/Trophy Bikes

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Great British Bike Weekend in Phila posted by ChristopherRobin on 3/3/2001 at 1:57:45 PM
To miss this get together is a real shame. Try to be there.

AGE / VALUE:   hopper on ebay posted by: sam on 3/1/2001 at 6:58:33 PM
Not mine---check out this rod brake bike ebay #1117323425

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   English bikes for sale posted by: Jim on 3/1/2001 at 3:53:34 AM
I have some nice English bikes for sale. Check out the General For Sale section here on OldRoads.com for details.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1951 Indian Scout posted by: Geoff rogers on 2/28/2001 at 6:21:32 PM
I am on a roll, so to speak. Since admitting to the world and my family that I have an old English bike habit, I have been acquiring the silly things at an unsustainable rate. luckily, they are cheap and easy to store, so the house isn't bursting at the seams yet. The latest is a 1951 Indian Scout. It is pretty original, including paint, decals, brakes, saddle, etc but the pedals are mismatched German ones and the grips are deteriorated beyond restoration. The bike is clearly a Phillips product, with old-style Phillips chainguard (but sporting an Indian decal--nice!), fenders, B/B, reflector, and headset. The brakes are definitely not raleigh; did phillips make their own brakes?
Even the seat is Wrights--not Brooks (a Raleigh product).
My questions for you epicyclic experts are:
Did the Indian motorcycle company really sell these things, or is that just a rumor? How do the Indian motorcycle people feel about this?
What should the pedals look like? Does anybody have a set for sale? Also the grips?
Unrelated to the Indian, did Phillips also make Dunelt? I have a little prewar (I think) Dunelt boy's bike that has a lot of Phillips parts, including that odd "bullnose" chainguard. I also have a '65 that is pure Raleigh.
My handlebars on the Indian are bent. Are they the same as Raleigh from the period, and does anyone have a set for sale?
My plans for the bike are to clean and wax the old thing and add it to the permanent collection. I will ride it to work occasionally. It's neat because, at first glance, it looks like a Raleigh, but upon closer examination, it is quite different in almost every aspect. Not that I don't love Raleighs, by the way.
Thanks for any help you might offer.
Tally Ho!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1951 Indian Scout posted by sam on 2/28/2001 at 6:55:10 PM
Check out the for sale section righ here on old roads for a little history lesson on Indian bikes---san---PS good buy!!!