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Archived: English Roadsters

AGE / VALUE:   urban planning posted by: sam on 4/26/2001 at 8:36:30 AM
In the San Antonio paper this week had tow pices on there revised urban planning.Seems the new train of though in city planning will be more people frendly.Side walks bike trailes corner stores etc.This will not happen over night,it's been 50 years sence planning went to wider streets for cars, and it's not easy to change the mines of people but it's a good sign!Some day city bikes(roadesters)might be a common sight in out cities.I hope so--keep riding--sam

   City bikes will be a common sight posted by Tom Findley on 4/27/2001 at 11:15:20 AM

FOR SALE:   1958 Raleigh Colt posted by: Jim on 4/25/2001 at 4:29:44 AM
For Sale 1958 Raleigh Colt. You saw it here a few weeks ago. Beautiful paint and decals. Good original chrome. Rims have some break wear. $200 shipped or BO email with questions or if you cannot get the photos.

FOR SALE:   parts for sale posted by: todjob on 4/24/2001 at 10:13:28 PM
I have NOS toe clips (2 pair) for sale made in england with white straps these bolt on to rat trap pedals so no need for special pedals they are made by cycle 23 and the box states they are from the early 70's I can send photos
$10.00 a pair shipped,ALSO I have a Rinder forklite one peice unit with a 2" appx light attached to gen.fits on left fork side can send photo as well asking $15.00 shipped it works well. email me direct thank you

FOR SALE:   Incredible BSA bicycle banner posted by: Jim on 4/24/2001 at 7:10:38 PM
Very nice dealer banner. This is made of paper and would have been taped up to a window etc. Would be nice framed. Size is approx. 6X18. Nice addition to your collection and seldom seen. $20 shipped Check it out at http://www.coconutgirls.com/bikeyard/mvc-013f.jpg

MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by: Art on 4/24/2001 at 9:31:56 AM
At the moment I am pretty enamored with English bikes. This Raleigh Golden Arrow that I recently got is pretty interesting. What amazes me is that the 3 tools that came with the bike originally are all the tools I need to do anything on this bike. I've ridden it and it is a wonderful ride. The question of correct handlebars was answered when I talked with the original owner. In 1941 his bike was stolen, the bars, saddle and pouch were taken, but the police recovered and returned the rest of the bike. He replaced the original North roads with Marsh bars. I'll never be able to find original vintage fenders, so the 20 year old Blumels will work fine. I truly love this bike.

Now a couple of novice questions.
Is there a collectible, aesthetic, performance etc. difference between an enclosed chainguard on a Tourist and a non-enclosed one? Preference?
What about the difference between 28" and 26" tires?
How hard would it be for me to find a mid-fifties or earlier Tourist? I'm just plotting. Watching E-bay for prices. Hercules, Rudge, Raleigh, Dunelt(?), any other names to look for. I saw the Ruddington recently on e-bay but I don't know anything about it. Thanks, Art.

   RE:MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by Keith on 4/25/2001 at 10:28:05 AM
Art, I've always thought of the enclosed chainguard on an English bike as the rough equivalent of a tank on an American ballooner or middleweight, at least from the collector's standpoint -- part of the classic profile of these bikes. Like a tank, a chaincase will be found on complete original bikes from the heyday years -- 1950s and earlier. I have bikes with hockey stick chainguards and one with a chaincase. The chaincase looks cool. I'm always afraid it will get bent. It's one more step to disassemble (patially) to remove the rear wheel. The hockey stick works fine -- my pants don't get caught in the chain or greasy -- but in comparison to the chaincase the hockey stick looks cheap, and the bike looks incomplete. And it is. The chaincase is supposed to offer more protection to the chain -- but that's kind of silly -- a can of oil solves that non-existent problem on hockey stick-equiped bikes. In all I suppose it arguably serves more of a purpose than a tank -- i.e. protection -- at least that's what it's designed to do. This is another rough estimate, but I see a 70s vintage DL-1s on eBay about once a month, and earlier chaincase versions less often -- maybe one every two or three months.

   RE:MISC: RALEIGH TOURIST posted by Warren on 4/25/2001 at 10:42:59 AM
I don't believe Raleigh ever made a rod brake "Tourist" with 26" wheels, although others did...Hercules comes to mind. Also, if you've got an inseam of <30" , you may have a hard time riding a men's Tourist. Thay are big frames. Others have mentioned that there are two sizes in the Tourist/DL-1 but I keep seeing large ones.

   RE:MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by Geoff on 4/25/2001 at 6:09:54 PM
Raleigh did make a 26" model with enclosed gearcase and rod brakes; I have a '47 Superbe with that specification. It's a great looking machine, even with black housepaint. Some day I will restore it.............
The gearcase is very fine to look at, I agree, but I find it gets out of alignment easliy and is hard to keep from rubbing some place or other. I suppose it doesn't help that the thing is bent a bit. My other gearcase bike is a '37 Dawn Safety Tourist, which has 26" wheels and hub brakes, which are really neat. It has the same alignment/rubbing problems, and removing the rear wheel is no fun. But it looks wonderful, I agree. my favorite rides at present are my '66 28"-wheel Dunelt with hockey stick chainguard (it has a 24" frame and I have a 30" inseam, and it's fine except when I stop! Then it's a bit like a high-wheeler for short little me) and my '51 Indian Scout, very different from each other but each a great joy in itself.
Art, you almost can't go wrong with thse old Brits. Besides, compared to may hobbies (collecting Hummels, XK Jaguars, snorting coke....) they are cheap and you can put quite a few in the garage without causing too much panic. My advice is to buy several, one for each mood. The Arrow for high days, a gearcase model for the wet (so the chain won't get damp, y'see), a sports bike for, well, sport, and a 28-inch-wheel bike for days when you need to feel tall.
Good luck, and have fun with that golden Arrow!

   RE:MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by sam on 4/25/2001 at 10:41:16 PM
Art , also watch for Phillips.On the chaingard question would add that 28"roadesters were shipped all over the world.Some places were very sandy,and these bikes were used for dayly tranportation--under very hard conditions.And they last!!--sam

   RE:RE:MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by Ed on 4/26/2001 at 6:06:34 AM
For what It's worth I'll put my two cents in. Your bike sounds very exciting and if you plan to ride it alot I would prefer the hockey stick to the chain cage for the same reason that Raleigh stopped putting chain cages on bikes which they exported.Elimination of excess weight. Enjoy your bike,Ed.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/26/2001 at 3:01:42 PM
Enclosed chaincases are neat! They keep your pants out of the chain,keeps the chain free of dirt and grit and keeps it oiled. They look sharp and add value and character to the bike. Black with gold lining and cool decals! I love them.
I heard that the enclosed chainguard put the bike over the weight limit at customs and rather than have it go up to another duty class they left the enclosed model chaincases off on the cycles sent to the States. Also a hocky stick style chaincase is easier to work with when fixing flat tires. The Humber double fork is marked "for export" in one of my books. But I doubt that many double fork blade 28 inch rod brake model bikes made it to the states.
So many diffrent models, various names, changes, various decal schmes, this CPSC change to comply with, all the diffrent lighting regulations to meet, the differing tastes in diffrent countries, so many bikes going to so many diffrent places. 7000 workers at one point in the 1950's ! And that was just Raleigh. Some model names were fazed in while others withdrawn. It is easy to get confused while skipping around in the 100 year span of Raleigh. Sheldon has a pretty good timeline of Raleigh's equipment changes over the years.

   RE:MISC:   RALEIGH TOURIST posted by MichaelW on 4/27/2001 at 2:03:31 PM
Sunbeam used to make bikes with an enclosed chainguard that functioned as a chainstay, and an oil bath. Running chains in oil baths is by far the most effective way of using them, the chains simply never wear out.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Info Wanted on Battery Holder posted by: Dale Oswald on 4/24/2001 at 8:54:50 AM
I guess I've given up on finding an SA battery holder for my Superbe. (There was one on ebay last year but it was more than I was willing to pay.) Can someone give me a good description of what it looked like, size, etc. so I can fabricate one that looks like the real thing? Did they hold D-cells? Two or three? How were they clamped to the frame?

I already have the connection information in the headlight assembly, in my SA manual.

Thanks, Dale

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Info Wanted on Battery Holder posted by sam on 4/25/2001 at 10:33:22 PM
I saw that one too,also dalta made battery cans and again they cost too much for me.You can by the raleigh light with batterys that fit on the head tub here.Check out the NOS parts for sale

FOR SALE:   NOS SA AB Hub new in the box dated 2/51 complete, 3spd w/expander brake posted by: Jim on 4/24/2001 at 2:44:52 AM
For sale on oldroads.com first. One NOS Sturmey Archer AB hub dated 2/51, which is a three speed with expander brake. This is a complete unit, hub, cog, shifter, cables, lever, and the trimmings including the spanner wrench new in the box. I would like $250 shipped for it. This is a rare and primo piece. Check it out at http://www.bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/hub

   RE:FOR SALE:   NOS SA AB Hub new in the box dated 2/51 complete, 3spd w/expander brake posted by jj on 4/24/2001 at 5:09:59 AM
FYI, your link doesn't work unless you remove the 'www' in it. Use:

Looks like an excellent find!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Get Your Brown Brothers CDs here posted by: Bruce Robbins on 4/23/2001 at 8:37:16 AM
Many of you will know of the famous UK Brown Brothers cycle wholesalers whose annually produced catalogues now sell for up to $150 or more.

I’ve spent some time photographing the contents of two catalogues–1939 and 1952–and written the images to CD.

These high-resolution pictures show the complete range of Brown Brothers cycling merchandise and cover thousands of parts. They’re guaranteed to keep your enthralled for weeks.

For fans of English roadsters, there’s bags of information and detailed drawings covering every conceivable component from British Hub products, Philips, Dunlop, Brooks, Sturmey Archer (including a parts interchangeability chart), GB, Lycett, Williams, Bluemells, etc, etc. It’s also possible to identify different types of dynamo lighting systems, carriers, handlebar grips, tyres and much, much more.

I’ve produced one CD for each year and I’m offering them for sale at US$18 each plus postage at US$2, (US$36 plus US$3.50 postage for two). Obviously, I’m more than happy to take orders from other countries.

Please email me at brucerobbins@worldmailer.com for further details.

Thanks for your indulgence,

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Get Your Brown Brothers CDs here posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/23/2001 at 5:53:21 PM
There are a very few collectors who have these. This was not something the customer got to see even years ago. Brown Brothers was a huge company that was a distributor of a huge, through, wide variety of bicycle items. The shop owners had these books and nobody else. Everything is covered, I mean EVERYTHING bicycle it is a wealth of information and illustrations and descriptions.This company had brown delivery vans very similar to U.P.S. filling orders and large buildings all over Britain and into Ireland. They sold automotive spares and operated garages, they sold EVERYTHING under the sun but 8/10ths of the book is exactly what you want to see. Pages of vintage parts and diagrams and the prices of the day.They sold lawnmovers, cooking stoves,doll prams(buggies) Lucas motorcycle spares, ignition, bulbs, board games, sporting goods.
Getting this CD is your best bet in getting to know The golden era of British bicycles. Unless you or I invent a time machine this is the closest any of us will come to experiencing it. They sold the Vindec line of bicycles this was their house brand. This huge sprawling company got out of the bicycle buisness and it something lost to us, something from another another era.
Get the CD and take The Grand Tour of it all. An absolute requirement if you are into British bicycles. ( No relation)

MISC:   The Bicycle Takes Off! Exhibit posted by: Rudge on 4/23/2001 at 8:03:17 AM
The Bicycle Takes Off! online until the exhibit appears in Norwalk, CT in erly June.

One of the last items in the show was an old Raleigh Roadster, Dated as 1910. It had steel rims, and a Dynohub.
Top-tube shifter, and non-stock rubber.
It seemed a bit late for 1910. Anybody see this?

Somebody had brush-painted it, and somebody else probably wiped off the greasy filth on the rear hub, presumably looking for a date (none found, of course.)

If you're in Norwalk or nearby and want your pre-war roadster on display, contact the people running this exhibit. You can have your bike on display!

I'm sure one of you has an example of early roadster in better shape, or at least one that has been wiped clean with a soft clothand that has decals and good paint.

Maybe it was the true-to-life aspect of the filthy bike they were going for?

   RE:MISC:   The Bicycle Takes Off! Exhibit posted by Sheldon Brown on 4/23/2001 at 4:14:36 PM
I saw this wonderful exhibit at the Museum of Our National Heritage in Lexingtonl, Mass. 3 weeks ago. It was a great show, but this one bike really did strike a sour note for me, and reduces the credibility of the whole exhibit. I sent the following email to the sponsoring Lockwood-Mathews Mansion Museum on April 1, but have received no response:
To: lockmathew@AOL.COM
From: Sheldon Brown
Subject: The Bicycle Takes Off

Hello, this is really addressed to David Herlihy, but I haven't been able to locate his email address.

I just saw the exhibit at the Museum of Our National Heritage, and a very fine piece of work it is. I'm pretty knowledgeable about bicycle history, and I've never seen such a fine collection of mid-19th century machines.

There was one sour note, however, in the last room: There's a bike on loan from Bob Sawyer which is labeled as a circa 1910 Raleigh--I'm sure Bob didn't make this attribution, because I know he knows better.

This particular bike is a pastiche, a 1950's Raleigh Sports that has been converted to rod brakes (you can tell that it didn't originally have rod brakes by the kickstand damage to the chainstays.) The rear hub is an SW, which was only made from 1956-59. The shifter is a 1930s-40s Quadrant unit. The bike also has a '70s or '80s Japanese taillight.

This bike is very out-of-place in a museum exhibit.

All the best,

Sheldon Brown
Newtonville, Massachusetts

   RE:RE:MISC:   The Bicycle Takes Off! Exhibit posted by paulO on 4/24/2001 at 5:15:53 AM
Man, my feelings exactly about that Raleigh in the "Bicycle Takes Off" exhibit.

Another complaint is the Raleigh Sports at the Museum of Transportation. Wrong tires, wrong cables, wrong saddle and it was missing the front fender cap, too. It wouldn't have been hard to find a Raleigh Sports in better shape for display.

   RE:MISC:   The Bicycle Takes Off! Exhibit posted by Rudge on 4/24/2001 at 12:43:21 PM
I really should have first said just how wonderful I found this exhibit! (Very wonderful.)
You should not miss it if you have a chance to go. Make the time! If you're interested in the history of bicycles or if you want a perfect introduction to it with REAL examples you can pore over, then get to Norwalk, CT this summer. When else will you ever get to see machines such as these?

I was delighted to see the Raleigh, but the misidentification and condition of that specimen was out of character with the rest of the display.

AGE / VALUE:   Hobbs of Barbican posted by: Greg K on 4/23/2001 at 8:09:13 AM
I've had a bike around for about 5 yrs. that I'd like to restore. It is a "Hobbs of Barbican" and I believe it is a custom bike. It has truly nice fillet brazed joints, lugged (custom?) stem, simplex three speed deraileur, a generator mount on the fork, drop bars. If anyone has any idea of origin, could you clue me in? Any info at all?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hobbs of Barbican posted by Art on 4/23/2001 at 11:05:01 AM
I believe Hobbs of Barbican is an English bike.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hobbs of Barbican posted by Warren on 4/23/2001 at 2:29:45 PM
Check out the cyclesdeoro website...classicrendezvous... under the British bikes section. Nice bike.

MISC:   The Bicycle Takes Off! Exhibit posted by: Rudgematch on 4/23/2001 at 8:03:17 AM
The Bicycle Takes Off! online until the exhibit appears in Norwalk, CT in erly June.

One of the last items in the show was an old Raleigh Roadster, Dated as 1910. It had steel rims, and a Dynohub.
Top-tube shifter, and non-stock rubber.
It seemed a bit late for 1910. Anybody see this?

Somebody had brush-painted it, and somebody else probably wiped off the greasy filth on the rear hub, presumably looking for a date (none found, of course.)

If you're in Norwalk or nearby and want your pre-war roadster on display, contact the people running this exhibit. You can have your bike on display!

I'm sure one of you has an example of early roadster in better shape, or at least one that has been wiped clean with a soft clothand that has decals and good paint.

Maybe it was the true-to-life aspect of the filthy bike they were going for?

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh 3-speed w/drum brake posted by: Walt on 4/22/2001 at 2:06:04 PM
Recently purchased an old Raleigh in rough but rideable condition. I guess I just need confirmation on whether this is a 1967 bike or an older one with "updated" parts. Serial no. on seat tube is 2895716 which doesn't seem to match the sn's on the list for 1967 models. Black Raleigh frame (not sure if original paint) with metal headbadge, cottered Raleigh cranks, fork has round concave chrome(?) metal insets just below crown, with plate welded on at left dropout to accomodate drum brake mounting. Has 3-sp SA rear hub w/coaster brake, stamped 67 so I know the hub at least is 1967. Alloy 36-hole Ambrosio rims. 3-spring leather Vittoria saddle in rough shape. All controls are cable actuated. Unfortunately, handlebars and stem are definitely not original, they are from a mtn bike. I've been amazed at the level of knowledge shown on this list so I'm hoping to get educated about this bike. Thanks.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh 3-speed w/drum brake posted by Sheldon Brown on 4/22/2001 at 5:55:15 PM
Your message is a bit confusing. You say there's a plate welded to the dropout for drum brake mounting, and that all controls are cable actuated--but then you say it has a coaster brake...?

The alloy rims indicate that this bike has been extensively upgraded and modified, so the date on the hub probably means nothing.

Your description of the frame could apply to millions of bikes made over a period of close to a century.

I have a Web page devoted to tracking annual variations on Raleigh 3-speeds, and close examination of the frame may help you narrow down the age a bit. See: http://sheldonbrown.com/raleigh.html

Sheldon Brown

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Kettler City Bikes posted by: Norman F. Birnberg on 4/21/2001 at 10:53:20 PM
Although this group focuses on English-made Roadsters and Sports "light roadster" bicycles, these are also found on the Continent. Remember how heavy the all-steel bicycle was and also how difficult its to find modern quality ones in this country. I don't mean the steel Forever Chinese made Roadsters.

I was surfing the net and came across Kettler Bicycles. Its a German conglomerate that manufactures a variety of goods, in particular aluminum bicycles! And no surprise, they offer a variety of Kettler City Bikes for sale. Yep, a look at them and they are all Raleigh Sports type knockoffs, complete with internal gearing, enclosed chaincase, rear rack, and generator light. You can check out more about them especially The City Tour model at:


The American distributor is 911GearBicycles. The City Bike models depicted for all on their website appear to be ladies models although men's models are probably available- one would have to e-mail the distributor for info. Check em out at:


If any one has ever seen one of these City Bikes or tried one please let this group know. Its just a shame that U.S Bike manufacturers so far haven't touched the City Bike market even though its popular in Europe and the U.K. Like I said about this you never know where on the net City Bikes turn up and its not necessarily in Mexico, the Netherlands or Denmark!!! OK so its an import and its not the Chinese Forever but so was The Raleigh when it was sold in this country from the other side of The Pond.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The R-R-A Again and Copake posted by: Geoff Rogers on 4/21/2001 at 9:15:58 PM
I need some information about dating my prewar (I think) Raleigh Record Ace. A lot of components--that is, all but the fork and frame--were changed in the distant past, so it's hard to tell what the bike looked like originally. As a first step, I would love to find out how old it is. The serial number does not match up with the Raleigh dating guide at Retro Raleighs (same as the one at OldRoads? I'll check later), as it has no letter prefix or suffix; just "51028". Did the Reynolds-tubing bikes have different numbers than the other Raleighs? Does anybody else out there have a prewar RRA, and what's your serial number?
I cannot date the bike by the rear hub, as it's a prewar (1940) AW, but has a 26 X 1-3/8" rim, while the original should have been 1-1/4". The front wheel is a raised-center rim from an early roadster.
The handlebars are North Roads, the cranks normal Raleigh roadster cranks with non-detachable chainwheel, and there was no saddle at all when I bought the bike.
The decals are sort of intact, though; ST reads "The Raleigh Record Ace Model" with "R R A" in the middle in large block letters, all in gold. Also in gold is a flattened diamond extolling the molybdenum tubing (which I think is Reynolds before they called it that). It's light, at 27 lb, so I think the machine is real, but I want to date it so I know what stuff to look for to complete it. I have several prewar Raleigh catalogs (1932, 1936, 1940), and the R-R-As therein do have some differences.
I went to the Copake Auction swap meet in New York State yesterday. Great fun! There was a great deal of really early stuff, ballooners, etc., as well as a good portion of English bikes and parts. I did not stay for the auction but there were great things there, as well. there was a Swiss army bicycle, pristine, complete with bags and accessories. I expect it had a corkscrew and screwdriver blade that fold out. One fellow had a pristine '51 Raleigh Sports Clubman, complete with cream fenders and Bailey dropped bars; lovely bike! Price was a reasonable $850. He also had a BSA paratroop bike for $600, plus a lot of interesting parts. I bought a black rubber reflector for a dollar.
Of even greater interest to me was another guy with hundreds of NOS tires, most for $5. Some were Taipei specials, but I bought a couple of Dunlops (one 26 X 1-3/8, one 28 X 1-1/2), a Vredestein, and a pair of 60's Generals, all at $5 each, plus a couple of NOS British saddlebags, a lovely Karrimore with a Schwinn label and another lable-less one that looks like those in the prewar Raleigh ads. Price was a very cheap $10 each. I should have bought more.
I missed the battered Rudge with nice B-66 saddle and complete Dynohub setup. But I have too many bikes, crazy though that sounds. I'd even consider selling a few. Anybody want some British sports bikes, priced at $45-$125? No gearcases or rod brakes, and the R-R-A is not for sale, but there is a prewar Three Spires Gazelle with top tube shifter and a very nice '65 Raleigh lady's Sports in green, looking very low-miles. Both have nice leather saddles and original paint and decals.

Send me your R-R-A serial numbers, and does someone have some 26 X 1-1/4 Endrick rims (32 and 40 hole) or wheels for sale? I also need some Bailey or Marsh handlebars (I think--not sure which yet) and 3-pin cranks for the Ace.
Geoff Rogers

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The R-R-A Again and Copake posted by Norman F. Birnberg on 4/21/2001 at 11:38:26 PM
Dunlop tires at a swap meet? What a find! Its too bad NOS parts aren't available to most of us to do a museum quality restoration project. Imagine how collectible our English roadsters would be if we could do that. Still your tale is proof that history has a way of turning up where its least expected. And Raleigh (and its associated company Dunlop) was a brand with a lot of history behind it.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The R-R-A Again and Copake posted by WARREN on 4/22/2001 at 8:59:13 AM
FWIW, this is a bike for a nice restoration and there are many parts available, at a cost. For instance, that pair of Solite hubs on Ebay are a great period correct match for your bike. They are at about $45 with a couple days left...I would pay up to a couple of hundred for those. They are beautiful, well machined hubs and will last indefinitely unlike the stuff made today...and that includes Phil Woods. Check the spacing on the rear of your bike to see if it's compatible with the flip-flop hub. I have a pair of 26 X 1 1/4 steel Sturmey Archer rims that I'm not really sure I want to part with...however I think I know of another pair that have some chrome problems but they are not terminal. They are 32/40 and I would be happy to inquire about them if you want. Your bike likely had Dunlops but they are getting very hard to find. A three or five bolt crank shouldn't be too hard to find...I have a drive side 3 bolt crank with inch pitch chainring, if you wanted to go that route. I don't have the matching left crank but that should'nt be too hard to source either.

Contact me off list if any of this interests you.

AGE / VALUE:   huffy posted by: sara stack on 4/21/2001 at 6:07:45 PM
i was wondering since there is so much information with regards to the foriegn bike called raliegh about datind and collecting, is there information out there on HUFFY seriel numbers? or HUFFY collecting. I just recently went to an estate sale and purchased a lovely ten speed mint condition huffy I paid over $150 for this lovely 1970s piece of history? It works great? so much more speed than the 1961 Rudge my dad gave me that he found at the side of the road. I think that 10 speeds are better than three. are there ten speed ralieghs out there? if there are i should like to buy one.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy posted by mel on 4/23/2001 at 7:26:53 PM
wow i didnt even think huffman was still in bussiness

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy posted by rachel on 4/23/2001 at 7:28:49 PM
where did the huffys come from in the 1970s

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy posted by sam on 4/21/2001 at 6:45:24 PM
Sara,I got a nice yellow girls raliegh sport 10 speed.I sell you for $20 plus shipping(boxing is free)needs tires email me at samclingo@hotmail.com also if you do a web search on huffman,you'll find a site on the huffman(huffy)historical Dist.---sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy posted by Ed on 4/21/2001 at 8:14:31 PM
Raleigh made four and five speed hubs and I believe The Raligh Grand Prix was a ten speed. Ed.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   huffy posted by Norman F. Birnberg on 4/21/2001 at 11:27:09 PM
Huffy is today best known as distributor of low end bicycles for department stores but back in the 1960s, the company marketed Raleigh-built bikes under its own label. If you find a 60s Huffy with Raleigh lugged tubing and the giveaway dropouts, you've got a finders keeper. People who bought a Huffy back then probably don't even realize who made it. That's true in view of the quality of an English made utility bike. They're just built to outlast us all.

"Don't Judge A Vintage Bicycle By Its Label Until You Know Who Made It."