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WANTED:   Phillips Pedals for Moulton posted by: Lolo on 10/29/2002 at 1:22:43 AM
Looking for NOS or really good used Phillips pedals for my early Moultons. I need the steel ones with rubber covers on the sides a yellow glass jewel reflector in the center.

Also looking for older Moultons for sale in the USA.


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Review your paint refinishing products here posted by: David Poston on 10/28/2002 at 11:21:00 PM
I was thinking that we should start consolidating our knowledge base of refinishing paint (and chrome, too) so that we develop a workable system for restoring the next cycle of yesteryear that comes our way. I've heard reference to so many products here on this forum that it's hard to remember everything. I've tried various things but recently settled on the 3M range of products, which are quite expensive, but which seem to have a good reputation. Go to the 3M site here:

They tell you exactly what to use for low gloss, light oxidation, medium oxidation, heavy oxidation, etc. There are so many products...

I've tried their 3M rubbing compound fine cut and their 3M imperial hand glaze with amazing results. After applying the hand glaze, I just sat down in shock. My mudguards (no less) were better than new! When I first got them, they were quite faded. I was resigned to so-so mudguards until now. I know, the shoe polish trick is fine and cost-effective, but I am looking for something a bit more sophisticated to deal with my heavily oxidized and scratched paint.

Has anyone tried 3M's products? I'm curious about their one step cleaner waxes. I could go through and try all of their products, but there are so many and my wallet would end up quite thin.

Is there a way we could start writing articles and post them somewhere on this site? We could write reviews of products, give step-by-step instructions, and share our restoration stories. E.g., "Raleigh Tourist Revived!" What do you think?


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Review your paint refinishing products here posted by P.C. Kohler on 10/29/2002 at 1:54:45 AM
Good idea David and of course you can also post such material in the Files Section of Roll Britannia!

P.C. Kohler

AGE / VALUE:   Another Raleigh Sprite falls into my clutches posted by: Christopher on 10/28/2002 at 9:22:03 PM
This latest ladies Raleigh Sprite I picked up for $5.00 came apart quite nicely. I took off the cotter pin r cap nuts and the washer and poured oil liberally over the cotter pin and let it sit overnight. The next day these came out so nicely I can re- use them! And I have! I held the bike over the vise and turned the crank sure that these would mash and be ruined. After all these cotter pins are 1970's edition. They are now in another bike.
The thing that I cannot believe is that ALL the bearing cups and races are in NEW unused condition! This means whomever the former owner was, she NEVER used it!
The headset, bottombracket cups(including the fixed cup) are barely scratched or broken in as is the spindle, hubs and the bearing surfaces within. The rear derailer hub will go to my Chopper project as it interchanges and is an origional part. That rear derailer is an Atom and is Chopper related also and it has it's place amongst the Schwinn people as it fits the Sting Ray/ Krate fastback stuff in there. The front hub is already in a wheel. I saved the fork.The seat post, seat,and other parts have gone on another bike. The frame is in the vise and is awaiting the removal of the brass Raleigh headbadge. I will not let myself damage that badge. This will be delicate sugery! The frame, rims,tires and tubes donated to a pal who will find a use for the rest of it.
If this bike could talk, it would say. "Wait! You idiotic fiend ! I'm new condition, and I was never ridden, never left out in the rain!"
Sad thing is, it is/was a ladies frame and in white. If the rims were alloy Weinman with the dimples I would have saved them because the older Weinman rims are sought after and are collectable. Common 27 steel rims, I do not save.
These bikes are an excellent source for parts and every now and then (but not regulary) do you see one that has little or no wear on the bearing surfaces. Hot water removed the blacked ribbed handlebar grips. (I love the Dare grips!) Brakes, cables, (original black ribed cable casing) Yum! Awful plastic covered Raleigh self adjusting brakes Ugh. I saved them yes, but I winced.
Huret Alvit derailer and all derailer related parts saved. Icky steel square mudguards I saved but begrudgingly because they are new condition. I'll never use them. But perhaps for some future crazed project? 1970's rear reflector that made it on the the DL1. new. On another bike. This is the later day wide one that was changed to meet some safety regulation. Ho Hum, booring still.The really cool, beautiful, thrilling to restore as is, and ride and 'not tear it apart' stuff is not there to be seen. It's out there still, if somebody like me did not tear it apart already. No baked goods at all. I stood there stunned and asked in a whisper "Where's the baked goods?" No chewey brownies as "the lady that does that could not do that this year." Old toys. Now there, I do not know what I am doing with exception of Hot Wheels. One Girder building toy was exciting as I had that as a kid! Found the National Geographic "Afghan Girl" issue. I looked thru many boxes but I now have it in plastic and am bummed out to see these barely get like $4.00 an issue. If in the future, there ever is a Raleigh Sprite owners club celebrating the wonderful Raleigh Sprite bicycle with a whole web page dedicated to the 1970 vintage Raleigh Sprite 10 speed. They would yell, "Get Him!"

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Another Raleigh Sprite falls into my clutches posted by Christopher on 10/30/2002 at 3:30:59 PM
And another one today! A green one with a black headtube and alloy handlebars. Ladies Mixte frame. This one I'll keep intact and re-do/restore.
Same bountiful harvest of parts on it too. Flawless Raleigh red R nuts throughout. Im happy to have it.

FOR SALE:   Pretty Phillips on eBay posted by: P.C. Kohler on 10/28/2002 at 6:22:08 PM
OK, don't you hate it when you are coveting some eBay cycle and hoping, praying, no one else will see it... and then some joker comes along and posts "Hey look at the great bike...."

Well, with sincere apologies, here goes...


Is this is a gorgeous Phillips or what? OK, the chainguard is missing but look at that paint, those transfers, the lining, the cool Phillips badge on mudguard, the crankset...

Buy it now for $249? Hmmm a bit pricey but one doesn't see too many de luxe Dynohub Phillips.

I have posted the pix of this machine in Roll Britannia, especially the good pix of the transfers. Worth checking out if you need duplicates made.

Once again, thankfully, I am too tall for this 21.5" frame.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:FOR SALE:   Pretty Phillips on eBay posted by Jeff R on 10/29/2002 at 12:11:57 AM
He says its a 1964. I think it's mid 50's. The fenders are definately from the 50's, the oil cap on the hub is the old metal type, the head badge says Birmingham, after 1960 it says Nottingham. The Phillips script on the chainwheel was discontinued after 1960. The rear dropouts are also pre Raleigh. The forks however don't look like the Phillips forks that I am familiar with, and the brake levers don't look like the old Phillips style. Its still a very nice bike.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Pretty Phillips on eBay posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/29/2002 at 1:46:07 AM
I believe that this was one of the last real Phillips made bicycles to come from Smethwick. Or better put, not too many after this one. A late hour real/ non raleigh Phillips. By 1964 Raleigh had already been merged into the Huge Phillips Empire that was part of the British Cycle Corporation. This happened in 1960/1961. The front Raleigh trademark tubular fork on this bicycle is Raleigh's. I do not remember Phillips having that fork. No, that's Raleigh's. Phillips used the Raleigh fork. The people at the Phillips plant were already taking orders from/ being payed by Raleigh. This is a frame from the Phillips plant, with Phillips pedals. Newer/ Raleigh inspired altered Phillips decals.A Phillips headset in this bike? Not with the Raleigh fork I don't think. Thats a good question. What size threading? Probably all 24 T.P.I. The bottom bracket for sure, and I don't believe that differing threadings were ever used/ mixing up a bike so maybe that fork is Phillips threaded? Strange. I'll have to have another look at the picture and oggle that headset if I can. I love those Phillips pedals! These are alloy pedals! Phillips was HUGE and made all sorts of Pedals! The handlebars are Raleigh-ish. Not Phillips for sure. Perhaps these were changed by the owner of the cycle or owners? The 3 speed Shifter should be a Hercules Speedy switch type and should be diffrent on appearence or even the circular coin type for want of a better or more accurate description. You see, by this point in time the merger had come into effect and Raleigh was going through or probably already had finished going through and they were closing plants down and reducing/ gutting/ scraping, changing and letting go workers who had worked at these companies for decades and decades. By 1964 it all was already changing and shrinking. Oh, all the models that were discontinued, whole lines vanished. I may even suggest that remaining stock of Phillips parts were being used up with no more being made there in Birmingham. Question? When exactly did Raleigh throw switches in Nottingham and knock out 'Nottingham' made Phillips bicycles? Could not be long after this was made. And a Raleigh produced Phillips had a different looking frame, mudguards, mudguard attachment pattern, Raleigh Pedals, bars, whole diffrent look to the bike.
The frame on this bike has the rear fender stay eyelets for fasteners mounted in a diffrent position that what Raleigh did so this also tells us it came from Birmingham/ Smethwick plant. This is missing a chaincase. Hocky stick/ or enclosed, it had one of the two. Chrome work on the chainwheel is ok. Phillips busted their tails to put out marvelous, wonderful chrome. Most all of them did but this was changing by the late 1950's early 1960's in there. The handlebar grips are wrong. These look like the Dare brand grips off a Raleigh to me. The paintwork on the front fork is nice and shows that care was taken to make a nice looking machine.
Beautiful Phillips decal on the Dynohub battery tube. I have a almost exact model only mine being a rod brake in this very color. A beautiful bike/color. This one is nicer than mine and more kitted out. You don't see many of these and it is a treat to see.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Pretty Phillips on eBay posted by Warren on 10/29/2002 at 2:31:29 AM
Definitely not 50's brake calipers...Phillips brakes would have had the double-ended cables right up until 1960. It's the lighting system that makes that bike.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Pretty Phillips on eBay posted by Dennis Savage on 10/30/2002 at 7:00:38 AM
I have a Phillips dated 12 64. This is what is has in common with the ebay Phillips: the seat post, the chain, and the brake calipers. Maybe the stem but the ebay one looks like it has a longer extention. I suppose the cables and maybe some of the things that attach it to the bike. But that ebay bike has a steel pully wheel, mine is plastic. I have a light but it attaches to the stem and looks smaller. Everything is different even the badges and decals. Even the SA stuff, mine has a twist shifter. A lot changed in one year. What did the customers think back then? Go to the Phillips dealership and see that the Phillips they were saving up for turned into a Raleigh? My bike has a Humber style fork, with the flat top. Maybe stuff left over from that acquisition.

MISC:   Shipping info , recomendations wanted posted by: Robert on 10/28/2002 at 2:18:16 PM
How do you folks ship bikes with larger frames? I am needing to ship a 24" framed bike and even with the wheels off, the top of the seatpost tube will be pushing up the flaps on the box slightly. ONly way it would sit further down in the box is to remove the chainwheel.

Also, after hearing the horror stories posted by some concerning UPS, is there a better shipper?


   RE:MISC:   Shipping info , recomendations wanted posted by P.C. Kohler on 10/28/2002 at 5:20:01 PM
Try FedEx. I have had HORRIBLE experiences with almost every cycle related shipment with UPS: damage, misdelivery, surly drivers and their customer "service" is a joke. I hate those silly brown shorts, the colour of their trucks...

P.C. Kohler, "did I mention I don't like UPS"

   RE:MISC:   Shipping info , recomendations wanted posted by Stacey on 10/28/2002 at 5:49:54 PM
Definitly FedEx! You might want to get a box for a large framed bike. Cannondale makes a REAL NICE box... extra wide, plenty of room for the wheels alongside the frame.

Suggestion, put a large sheet of cardboard between the wheels and frame, it provides extra protection from scratching the frame. Of course, you've already got axle caps and a plastic beam for the forks from you're LBS when you got the box, right?

If all else fails, with a bold red magic marker you can draw a box around the highpiont and mark it "Do Not Strike!". Though I must admit to a little chuckle at the double entendre every time I write it. :-)

   RE:MISC:   Shipping info , recomendations wanted posted by Dale on 10/28/2002 at 5:54:36 PM
If you're shipping to someplace that's near a train station with baggage service, check Amtrak. I've shipped half a dozen times by them and never had a problem.

FOR SALE:   Raleigh DL1 New In Box posted by: Lolo on 10/28/2002 at 3:24:50 AM
That right, New Old Stock 1977 Raleigh DL1 Black Complete Bicycle. 22" Frame, 28" Wheels. Rod Brakes, Brooks B66 Saddle, Pedals, Seat post, Pump, Fenders, warranty card and owners manual all in original Raleigh box, never assembled or taken out of the box. $600.00 obo. Please email for pictures or questions. Located in Southern California.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh DL1 New In Box posted by David Poston on 10/28/2002 at 6:15:44 PM
Where on earth did you find this?


   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh DL1 New In Box posted by Chris on 10/28/2002 at 10:29:34 PM
The posting brings back fond memories of when I found a shop with these still new in the boxes. The owners of that shop were wonderful, decent, hardworking, awesome people. We got along very well and they were folks who were a joy to be around.
I remember how they went on about the Raleigh sealed bearing hubs and how they came from factory/supplier needing re-working/ regreasing. They were angry and disappointed with those hubs. They went over everything to see that it was perfect and they took real pride in what was put out on the shop floor. Like somebody would act if they sold Rolls Royce, Bently, Jaguar or Cadillac. They had class! Customer service, the real thing. A store to be proud of it was!
Raleigh was going through changes and these loyal folks loved and revered the brand and the company and when something came down the line that let them down, it hurt to watch.They were quick to get on the phone or letter writing and make waves to let the chain of command know they were not pleased. They loved the bicycle business, sold a lot of bikes, and had a good, long, association and they retired happily. He spoke about wanting to own a bed and breakfast place and have the guests ride Raleigh Tourists D.L.1's around the grounds.

We don't hear of these turning up in N.O.S. shape very often.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh DL1 New In Box posted by Lolo on 10/29/2002 at 1:08:09 AM
It has been in our storage for years. During the gas crunch in the '70's you couldn't build bikes fast enough. Raleigh required their dealers to sell a bike assembled. This was one we never built and it just sat in our storage for years.

Help me find a good home for this beautiful Raleigh masterpiece. Email me for pics or more information.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh DL1 New In Box posted by Lolo on 10/30/2002 at 12:21:57 AM
Here is a link to the pictures.


   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Raleigh DL1 New In Box posted by Valerie on 4/10/2006 at 11:41:41 PM
Mint - Men's DL1 recently found in garage @ estate sale

It's in great shape even the old leather seat.

Has not been apraised yet, any ideas on price?


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by: Ben on 10/28/2002 at 1:41:35 AM
Y'all, I recently had an email conversation with the folks at Benotto (someone pointed us to a bike on their site recently) and was able to get gum-colored 28 x 1.5 tires...would anybody be interested in having these, ore am I just silly for thinking they look neat?


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by sam on 10/28/2002 at 7:22:26 PM
Ben,don't forget to ask about those great 28" alum wheels.They come drilled for 36 spokes,but there's lot of S/A hubs with 36 holes.And you might also ask if they have white wall 28"tyres.(you never know?)

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by Ben on 10/28/2002 at 9:43:15 PM
No whitewall 28" tires, but the rims are available. The only problem is shipping and taxes in Mexico are horrendous. We had to do some pretty tricky stuff to get around it. If you are fortunate enough to have a DHL account there is some relief. My feeling is that the tires can be found somewhere else. The brand is Golden Boy.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by David Poston on 10/28/2002 at 9:48:04 PM
Find out if they have ALL-WHITE tyres. I'm sure they have them down there, and I've been looking for a decently priced source for these for ages...


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by sam on 10/29/2002 at 12:38:14 AM
Yea,the Jo-Mar bike shop in Monterry has them.swallow brand.What's the cost of the wheels?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by Ben on 10/29/2002 at 2:53:10 AM
Rims are $7.50 each, but shipping is minimum $30. and there is a bank charge for international transactions, which for my 4 tires was going to be another $30. but we figured out a way around it.

There must be a way to find out who is making these rims and get them direct or through a US distributor.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Gum-colored tires posted by Ben on 10/29/2002 at 3:21:37 PM
Well, for anyone interested: Benotto is working on 28" alloy rims for rod brake bikes, and sent me pictures of the prototype. These will be 36h only, but they would consider doing pairs of 32/40. Weinmann is the manufacturer. Please email me if you want to see the prototype.


WANTED:   INFO on BSA Delivery Bike posted by: karl on 10/27/2002 at 9:23:46 PM
Hello, I bought an old BSA delivery bike a while back and am now getting around to working onit. It has 26" rear and 20" front. Your basic delivery/cycletruck type machine, rod brakes. I am trying to determine year if possible and what color the bike would have been originally. Any help would be appreciated.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   AW Hub Parts List posted by: Mike on 10/27/2002 at 4:42:08 PM
Ran across this complete parts list for the Sturmey AW 3-speed hub. Thought it might be of use to someone.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   AW Hub Parts List posted by David on 10/28/2002 at 1:50:44 AM
Here's the complete current SA manuals in pdf format.


AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh "Anniversary" headbadge posted by: dave on 10/27/2002 at 11:51:55 AM
I picked up a Raleigh Record (not a Roadster, but got no response on the Class Lightweight list) with what I have been told is the Raleigh Anniversary headbadge ... oval, many colors, etc. Thought I would post the question here as there might be more collective Raleigh knowledge/wisdom on this list. Is this really a Raleigh Anniversary headbadge, if so what anniversary was it, what year was it produced, did all the Raleigh line use it? thanks

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   heresy? posted by: dafydd on 10/27/2002 at 1:40:25 AM
Prompted by my buddy who tried this with promising results, I took a 24 tpi catridge bottom bracket and wrenched it into a Raleigh BB shell, and took it out. It goes in fairly easily, and cross-threading doesn't occur until about 3/4 of the way inside the BB shell, for a few threads. Obviously, this isn't something to do on something you want to keep original, but if you're looking to hot-rod something or make a stealth beater...

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   heresy? posted by Albert on 10/28/2002 at 12:20:23 PM
This good information; maybe it will encourage

some to convert to cotterless cranks.

Cheers from Philadelphia, Albert

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   heresy? posted by Albert on 10/28/2002 at 12:21:00 PM
This good information; maybe it will encourage

some to convert to cotterless cranks.

Cheers from Philadelphia, Albert

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   heresy? posted by dafydd on 10/28/2002 at 3:34:00 PM
Thanks, some add'l info: I used a 73 mm width catridge, with a spacer on the drive-side retainer (old cog spacer). The nondrive side retainer got a little chewed up, but I'm not sure if this was due to crossthreading or the presence of an oiler port which the retainer push out and the subsequent stripped material peeled out of. My money's on the port, but just so whoever knows... Pretty sure there's more than enough still holding it in, but I'll be sure to follow up.

AGE / VALUE:   LOOK at THESE PARTS! posted by: sam on 10/27/2002 at 1:04:06 AM
Look at the chrome.Look at that shifter! Wow,And not my ....etc.http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=728546068 These make me dream ...I see them on bikes I wish I owned.

AGE / VALUE:   Nit nurse bicycle posted by: Chris on 10/26/2002 at 8:03:24 PM
Stainless steel wheels! Check out the "1951 Nit Nurse bicycle' on e- bay right now.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Nit nurse bicycle posted by David on 10/26/2002 at 9:07:31 PM
Let's hope it's not complete with nits!

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by: Ed on 10/26/2002 at 4:31:55 PM
Check Out E-Bay item #1574448618.A real beauty.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 10/26/2002 at 8:02:45 PM
Yes it is, But those plain white mudguards do not thrill me. Those are 1970's ish on a early 1950 bike.
They are more durable and you won't cry if they get broken. Functional and by the same company? yes, but the real original deal, the actual mudguards this bike came with, what options you had back in '51 was wonderful.
The color is nice but some of the other colors knocked off socks.
Still a wonderful machine and a treat to see.

There are a batch of Blumels mudguards on e- bay right now and if you look you'll see what all the colors were offered. Beautiful!
My R.R.A 's have this particular crank set.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by P.C. Kohler on 10/27/2002 at 4:07:59 AM
All I can say is I am glad this is only a 22" inch frame and too small for me, otherwise it would be agony to resist! I simply MUST get a club machine... preferably a Rudge Pathfinder. Must.

As for the white celluloid mudguards, they are authentic, at least from the catalogues of the era I have. And often with a matching white pump of course. Rudge Pathfinders in blue had RED mudguards!

All this lovely machine is missing in my opinion is a GH6 dynohub.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by Jeff R on 10/27/2002 at 12:42:20 PM
My 1948 Clubman came with Britannia celluloid mudguards. They are cream colored. The bike is the same color as the one on ebay, but does not have lights. It also has the shifter with the extra long trigger.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by Ed on 10/27/2002 at 5:20:42 PM
I love dynohubs as well as anyone.I own a Superbe,DL 1,and two Sports all dynohub equipped,but presonnally,regarding this Clubman,I would prefer the lighting arrangement presently used.Very cool in my opinion.Regarding white or cream mudguards, I have seen an original champaign colored 1948 Clubman equipped with white fenders with a heron logo transfer attached to the rear fender. One thing we can all agree on though is that this is avery cool Raleigh.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by P.C. Kohler on 10/27/2002 at 6:20:54 PM
Ed, I know what you mean: somehow dynohubs seem "wrong" for sporty club cycles! But the catalogues always featured these machines with the GH6 as an option. The mounting of the headlamp varied. I've seen some with the traditional fork mount (like on this machine) with the teardrop shaped smaller lamp and others with the older flat glass lamp mounted on the handlebar (did this use the traditional lamp bracket?).

A question: this is a 22" frame. Some catalogues listed ONLY a 22" frame which is odd as one usually sees 21" and 23" which were offered at various times for club bikes. Anyone know when and why the 22" version was offered?

Lighting and frame size be damned: this is a simply a gorgeous bit of British bike!

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by Chris on 10/27/2002 at 8:04:51 PM
Exactly! Cream colored Blumels Noweights or possibly alloy Airweights. I'm nit picking here I know. These stand out and yell, "Cheaper mudguards"
Very nice bicycle non the less.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by Tom on 10/28/2002 at 4:05:47 AM
I think this bike is one nice bike. I know the seller and have been in contact with him for a year or so. He had at one time one of the nicest collection of pre 1900 bikes in the country. His bikes have been in a lot of magazines in the past. He does a lot of his own work on his bikes. He sold his complete collection of bikes due to a divorce. Most of his bikes went to a collector in California and the rest went to museums. He told me the whole story. After the divorce he started on 1950's race style bikes. He has a small collection now but his heart is in the highwheel bikes. I have not talked to him in a few months but he may be giong back to the highwheel bikes. I think the mudguards on this bike were NOS Blumels that he bought.I have seen this bike before when he first started emailing me. He was looking for parts for bikes. He bought an early 1900's Fred Deely frame from me. Still a very nice bike.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Clubman posted by Dale on 10/28/2002 at 6:00:05 PM
I know someone who tinkered around until he could fit a Campy Record QR axil into a Dynohub. He put the wheel on his International. Dynohub on a club bike? How about on a real live racing bike? It'd be great for that double century or brevet you're planning to ride...

AGE / VALUE:   JC Higgins 3speed? posted by: Trevo on 10/26/2002 at 3:32:10 AM
This bike's chainwheel says JC HIggins. Its cut out of the center of the chainwheel, the lettering is about 2inches tall. I've never seen anything like this. The gear was on a womens bike and fortunatly, the Fenders on it are in beautiful condition. Anyone Know anything aobut these bikes.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   JC Higgins 3speed? posted by JimW. on 10/27/2002 at 5:04:13 AM
Without seeing a photo, I could be wrong, but most of the J.C.Higgins (Sears)3-speeds were made by Steyr, Daimler, Puch in Austria.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   JC Higgins 3speed? posted by Trevo on 10/28/2002 at 2:37:11 AM
Sorry not really understanding what you said? Can you clarify?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   JC Higgins 3speed? posted by David on 10/28/2002 at 4:33:02 PM
I'm pretty sure the J.C. Higgins ballooner I learned on in 1956 had a chainwheel with lettering. If the crank is one-piece, it's American-made, most likely. If it's a 3-piece cottered crankset it's European-made.