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Archived: English Roadsters

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Carlton Cycles posted by: Joe on 2/8/2002 at 7:57:17 PM
Hi, I just bought a Raleigh Carlton Cycle bicycle from a junkyard and want to learn more about the history of my bike. All I know that its a raleigh and it has a tour de france 1980 winner badge on it. The model number was half scrapped off with only the last 2 digit remaining which is 81. I think that its a Carlton Cycle bike because it has the CC logo all over the bike. The bike is exceptionally light and a real joy to ride. If anyone knows where I can get any net resources on my bike pls tell the the url as well. Thanx!


AGE / VALUE:   Thanks posted by: Dewane on 2/8/2002 at 4:15:51 PM
I think everybody knows this, but this site is a valuable resource. I've learned so much over the past 3 years or so scanning these posts, and checking Sheldon's site. End result: A freshly tuned and oiled '62 Dunelt, with decent (koolstop) brakes.

The weather was spectacular this morning in Northern California, 40 degrees and the day after a rain, and I wouldn't rather have been anywhere but on my bike, even though I was going to work. I've learned so much, a lot of it common sense, such as removing the heavy thorn-proof tire and liner from my back wheel (unbelieveable how much difference that makes). Thank you, I'm sure there are a lot of shade tree mechanics like me who really appreciate this site.

PS stupid bike repair: I was installing a new seat post a few weeks ago. I was able to turn the saddle, and kept tightening the seat post bolt until the 40-year-old bolt broke. After replacing the seat post bolt, I noticed that it wasn't the post that was turning, but the seat. As Homer Simpson would say, "D'oh!" Brooks tight, everything OK.

MISC:   I.D. Sturmey Acher Hub posted by: Lane on 2/7/2002 at 6:48:40 PM
I am trying to identify a Sturmey Archer hub marked 3 speed and "KK11510" . Any ideas?

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Three speed hub posted by: Stephen on 2/7/2002 at 5:50:50 PM
I have parts to a 1954 Schwinn warwick including a three speed hub(Sturmey Archer), Fenders,red grips, and frame. I was wondering if any one would be interested in these parts and what they would be worth. Mabye a trade or something.

FOR SALE:   FS NOS Pump brackets posted by: Jim on 2/6/2002 at 3:27:06 AM
FS NOS Pump Brackets made in England $14 for a pair shipped. View them at http://bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/pump
FS NOS Speedmid Alloy Shortie fenders. Made in England as well. $18 a set shipped view them at http://bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/short

   RE:FOR SALE:   FS NOS Pump brackets posted by Jim on 2/7/2002 at 11:05:33 AM
If your having trouble with the photos, email and I will sent them to you.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn New World posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 2/6/2002 at 1:20:33 AM
E- bay item #1069399698 Antique Schwinn New World bicycle
it's at 61.00 and still time to go on the clock.
Does this mean I should pick up the one I know of for 5.00?
I left it there, thinking that it had no value.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Nice minature bike / display item posted by: Robert on 2/5/2002 at 1:38:03 PM
This might be of interest to some here. Not mine ect, ect


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   dawes realmrider posted by: john dee on 2/5/2002 at 6:14:28 AM
i bought a realmrider f.f. set with stronglight h.s. and unmatched 27" wheels including s.a. 5 speed hub{..68.......3..}. metallic green. no derailer hangers. ser>#>..{62...63..dc} on bb shell. awesome bike. never seen another like it. just got a brooks b.17 new at a gs for one dollar. beat that. anyone with dating info or intelligence re; orig. comps., lit., . email me. i'd love to find out everything. i'm recently obsessed with it. a.*r.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   dawes realmrider posted by smg on 2/5/2002 at 6:31:19 PM
See Sheldon Brown's Sturmey-Archer site for advice on the Sturmey S5 hub. I've recently been riding one that set idle in a box for 20 years, and am finding it to be an absolute delight.

The reason it was forgotten for 20 years is that it never worked very well back in 1981. I found out that the original shifters were badly designed, and when I had the hub overhauled by a knowledgeable mechanic found that it had been assembled wrong at the factory. I got a similar verdict on a 1948-vintage 4-speed hub--also able to be correctly reassembled, fortunately. The experience leads me to suspect that Sturmey-Archer's assembly quality-control had problems with anything other than the familiar AW 3-speed. I would therefore suggest an immediate overhaul of your hub.

The 5-speed utility bike--the Raleigh Sprites, Schwinn Collegiates, etc.--was a very practical machine for many uses. Unfortunately, it tended to get overlooked/underappreciated in the "10-speed" fetish of the bike-boom era. Get your S5 in good order, and you'll have the bonus of never having to panic when you get surprised by a red light.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   dawes realmrider posted by EdgarEcks on 2/5/2002 at 11:23:38 PM
A few years ago I converted a NOS S5 to the "/2" version and, boy was I glad I tore it down! The factory was kind enough to include an extra pawl spring inside! Imagine what that would have done if not seen to. I'm using Raleigh Sprite shifters on it with no problems. There are good instructions in "Glenn's Complete Bicycle Manual", check your local library for a copy.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   dawes realmrider posted by DBean on 2/6/2002 at 11:37:25 AM
What is the date of your Glenn's? Mine is 1973 and includes info only on the AW and its clones. (Plus Bendix 2-speeds, etc)

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   dawes realmrider posted by EdgarEcks on 2/7/2002 at 3:24:33 PM
Mid 80s, '86 or so.

AGE / VALUE:   Phillips roadster at Indy bike show posted by: Kevin C. on 2/5/2002 at 3:00:04 AM
I went to the Hoosier Classic and Antique Bicycle Collectors' Club show in Indianapolis on Saturday. There was only one roadster there -- a 1962 Phillips, three-speed, men's, with rod brakes, rack and British bicycle license on rear fender, brand new 28 inch tires. Clean as a pin with original brown paint, beautiful chrome and shorty grips -- really a beauty. It sat there all morning for $200 and sold just before 1 p.m. If I hadn't had a nearly identical Raleigh I likely would have added it to the stable.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   RIP cycle historian John Pinkerton posted by: Michael McGettigan on 2/5/2002 at 2:55:59 AM

Sunday 3rd February 2002
(from www.Bikebiz.co.uk)

John Pinkerton passes away

The cycle historian died peacefully in hospital yesterday. He had been suffering from lung cancer. He died surrounded by family.

"He will be sadly missed," said Tony Hadland, editor of one of John Pinkerton's best-selling books, 'Bicycle Design' by Mike Burrows.

The Pinkerton Press has been publishing cycle history books since the early 1970s and John Pinkerton had one of the finest collection of cycle manufacturers' catalogues starting from 1878.

And it wasn't just the printed word he was interested in. He also had a fine collection of historic bikes: from a Hobby Horse (c 1828) to a Mike Burrows monocoque racing bike(1985).

Being a noted authority on antique bikes meant he was in demand for his restoration and research services. He also stocked an eclectic collection of spares and replacement parts for everything from Ordinary solid tyres through to cables for long-gone bike marques.

John Pinkerton was also a public speaker and will be long remembered for a witty and entertaining after-dinner speech he gave at an ACT AGM five years ago.

(McG adds) He gave a nice talk on cycle history and his publishing house at the 2001 Brit Bike Weekend, where he also barked back at a dog which had the temerity to make noise during his lecture! He was a good, funny guy.

Pinkerton published the
Sturmey-Archer Story
and many other fine
cycling books. For more about them, check www.tonyhadland.co.uk or com...

McG/Trophy Bikes

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   RIP cycle historian John Pinkerton posted by Ian on 2/5/2002 at 6:19:21 AM
A gentleman in the true English sense of the word who was prepared to talk bicycles with anyone regardless of how little you knew or how meager your collection. I visited him in Birmingham a few years ago and when he found that I had come from New Zealand just to look at cycle collections he came and picked me up from my hotel, took me to his house, which was completely full of cycle history and information, took me to look at his collection and moved things around so I could take photos and gave me a great deal on all the books I needed to help my collection and knowledge grow. His wife Dorothy was equally friendly and I will always treasure the time I spent in Birmingham and Coventry learning what it really means to be a bicycle collector. The photos in the V-CC newsletter of John, beard and hair flying in the wind, and of Dot, riding Ordinaries at an age when most are stuck in armchairs should continue to be an inspiration to all of us to get the most out of life while we can. Thank you John Pinkerton for making my life richer. Ian Verrall.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   RIP cycle historian John Pinkerton posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 2/6/2002 at 12:43:51 AM
We have lost a dear friend.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   RIP cycle historian John Pinkerton posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 2/8/2002 at 10:28:50 PM
We no longer have this wonderful man with us to answer questions. Without him up front to help light our way, the path ahead will be more grey and shadowy.
I hope whomever steps in to carry on has his spirit and devotion. Certainly, it is in good hands.

AGE / VALUE:   rudge on ebay posted by: sam on 2/4/2002 at 1:53:51 PM
There is a rudge sport on ebay check under rudge (forgot #)not mine etc.---sam

FOR SALE:   boxful of bicycle stuff posted by: Bruce on 2/4/2002 at 3:28:12 AM
I have a few things to clear out of the garage. I am putting them all in one box and selling them. I have a Brooks B66 in rough shape, a small leather tool bag & a larger vinyl tool bag, an aftermarket rack that I had on one of my Raleigh sports-it is a "Midland" roadster model made in England (black)a small plastic oil can, a container of proofhide (half empty), a bell with a four leaf clover on it, a new in box 26 x 1-3/8 inner tube, a brand new "Park" tool (36 & 15mm).I can email a picture on request. I will cover shipping in the continental US for a total of $60.00. no takers after 3 days I will try ebay

FOR SALE:   One pair of NOS Continental Extra Prima Cord 28 x 1 1/2 tires posted by: Jim on 2/3/2002 at 10:05:27 PM
For sale on pair of NOS Continental Extra Prima Cord 28 x 1 1/2 tires. Perfect for your DL1. $60 shipped
Also I have a NOS GreatBay made in England large size touring bag. $28 shipped
tires can be seen at http://bikeyard.home.mindspring.com/28
Email if you cannot get the photo of the tires or desire a photo of the bag
Thanks Jim

   RE:FOR SALE:   One pair of NOS Continental Extra Prima Cord 28 x 1 1/2 tires posted by jim on 2/4/2002 at 3:24:06 PM
Name on Bag is BayCliff

FOR SALE:   Rudge Sports '69 posted by: DBean on 2/3/2002 at 5:12:33 PM
This is a re-post; the pub crawl rhubarb pushed it right off the page!

Rudge Sports complete except for grips. Dynohub & SA lights (working). AW hub marked 69. B72 saddle, "hand" chainring, tires hold air, 21" mens frame. Frame is Raleigh-style, but is marked "Made in Republic of Ireland." Bike has spent some time outdoors unfortunately and is somewhat rusty. (I have seen garaged bikes worse, though) Located in Arlington, MA ("VVVintage!") I'd prefer not to ship, $50 but I'll consider offers. I can send pics if interested.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Rudge Sports '69 posted by Pravin Menon on 2/4/2002 at 10:54:46 PM

I am interested in the bike; could you send me some pictures?


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dont polish, just peddle em. posted by: Its grim up North on 2/3/2002 at 12:58:55 AM
I have a Raleigh Roadster used in daily service, and two Raleigh Choppers, parts are getting hard to find here in U.K.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dont polish, just peddle em. posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 2/3/2002 at 6:03:40 PM
Start digging, it's all in landfil by now.