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FOR SALE:   raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by: great bike on 4/1/2003 at 11:29:05 AM
this you have to see item #3601997077

   RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/1/2003 at 5:29:36 PM
This rates a WOW.

What time machine did this come out of?

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 4/1/2003 at 9:30:24 PM
UNTIL NOW? IN ALL THESE YEARS? Somebody slap me and tell me: Yes, and you ain't seen it all yet!
OOHH, I want to see close ups of that decal scheme. Red decals! OOHH!
I've looked at hundreds of this model over the years and this decal has never met my eyes until now.
Notice the nice long quill stem of those handlebars. Notice the lovely chrome work on those luscious rims.Notice the unchromed but grey- ish coated center section on those rims.I have rims like that on mine!
Love that fork!

   RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by David Poston on 4/1/2003 at 9:43:17 PM
Does this look like an original machine?

Should I go for it?

David, who'll quickly sell off his 78 DL-1 to get his hands on a REAL Tourist like this one

   RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by Chris on 4/1/2003 at 9:50:58 PM
Yes,My god!
Go for it!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/1/2003 at 9:51:43 PM
Yes, David, this has you written all over it.

A second mortgage on your new house and she's yours. Methinks this will see some major sizzlin' eBay action. Then again, considering the dismal results I had selling me wares last week, maybe it won't even make the reserve.

The only "hmmms" are some of the feedbacks on the seller and that saddle: it's not original I think as the side stamping looks not to be the old oval shape.

Otherwise, as I said, a WOW. Sometime buy this bike. And please ride it. It looks like it's been sittin' for 66 years waiting for that first spin.

P.C. Kohler, also wondering about that second transfer...

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/1/2003 at 10:09:39 PM
Well it helps to read the darned thing: the second transfer folks is nothing more than University of Pennsylvania!

So much for hopes it was "Special Coronation Year Model"..

P.C. Kohler

   RE:FOR SALE:   raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by Larry Bone on 4/2/2003 at 12:47:54 AM
Oh man.... PLEASE, PLEASE next time post a warning... I drooled all OVER my keyboard.

that's some sweet machine for sure. I wonder what it will go for. Perhaps the fella is playin' it smart... otherwise he may have posted a "buy it now" price.

I see some bold soul bid a whole dollar for it. Heck, I'll give him DOUBLE that! ;-)



   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by Chris on 4/2/2003 at 1:32:05 AM
Did Raleigh make transfers for bikes sent to Universities?Who made that transfer ? This threw me then.

The seat may be newer and that post looks alloy.
This is an older model bike due to the Raleigh cursive script on the enclosed chaincase and the front fork.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE: raleigh roadster for sale ebay 3601997077 posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/2/2003 at 2:25:22 AM
The saddle is surely new and I rather think a machine c. 1937 would have the older "T" shaped seatpost. Take a look at the pre-war catalogues: most Raleighs came with Terry or Lycett mattress saddles, not Brooks. Things were actually better post-war when it came to standard equipment!

I suspect the U of PA decal is nothing more than an auto windscreen one.

Finally, just from memory, this is THIRD near mint DL-1 type machine c. 1937-38 offered on eBay since last summer. The others also came with the original receipt, maintenance books etc. Remarkable. It must prove that when you spent $44 for a bike back then, it was very special. Maybe too special as they all looked like they were sent straight to the basement instead of being ridden. Then again, how many adult Americans even rode a bike in 1937?

By the way, before they became a soft-porn catalogue, Abercrombie & Fitch sold sports goods of course. They were one of the major Raleigh dealers in the US before the war and just after. So was Macy's.

P.C. Kohler

AGE / VALUE:   cant find any info posted by: ken on 4/1/2003 at 1:28:56 AM
i have aquired Drake bicycle which says it was made in england on the front badge. it is in very good condition.
there are three piece cranks with a pin on it lightweight tires. i have looked everywhere to try and find out anthing about it and have been unsuccessful. any info appreciated

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Additional acquisition and REDEMPTION? posted by: Larry Bone on 4/1/2003 at 1:07:08 AM
OK gang... so, I'm guilty of buying a Sprite.... ('_^) Perhaps I may redeem myself with an acquisition that I made today of not only ONE 3-speed Raleigh Sports... but how about a MATCHED PAIR. Mens' AND ladies frames. Yeah, I know... they aint tourists or DL-1's but $30 for the TWO of them.... sorry... could not pass that up. Of course, they are a bit rusty and dusty... but some elbow grease and new tires... they will do JUST FINE!



   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Additional acquisition and REDEMPTION? posted by geo on 4/1/2003 at 2:49:57 AM
Nice find. That's the kind of prices we should be paying. With the exception of my dl-1($55) I generally spend anywhere from nothing on the side of the road on trash day to $20 thrift store or yard sale bargain. I like the old beaters you have to breathe life back into, that you rescue from the brink of extinction, that bike that was just about to be lost forever. Sometimes this board get's hung up on watching the latest dl-1's ridiculous price on ebay like it's some kind of stock ticker and it makes me kind of ill($650 for an old bike?). As far as redeeming yourself. No need $30 is a respectable price for a pair of Sports and besides the Sprite is a nice bike anyway, I've got one myself(26 internal but I like the 27 external as well). I will say I got you beat though(price wise anyway) this weekend I was given 2 ladies Phillips beaters for free. Nice find and good luck with them. Geo

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Additional acquisition and REDEMPTION? posted by Chris on 4/1/2003 at 8:57:22 PM
The 3 speed Sports, you just don't see them very often these days.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Additional acquisition and REDEMPTION? posted by Larry Bone on 4/2/2003 at 12:51:37 AM
These Sports are interesting. According to the date code on the hubs they were mfg'd. in 1978. I find that rather surprising... I thought the three-speeds died of in the early 70's. And the reflectors on the rear fenders are NOT round... but tall and rectangular. And I simply cannot believe that there is NO WHITE PAINT on the rear fenders at all!

So, they are different, that's fer sure!



   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Additional acquisition and REDEMPTION? posted by Chris on 4/2/2003 at 1:34:24 AM
The Sports went past 1987. It went thru changes and some were assembled in Canada too.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Additional acquisition and REDEMPTION? posted by jim on 4/4/2003 at 5:43:23 PM
hay do you no of a engish bike made by mr gt of england this bike is black whith gold pin stps what year now much.worth is it rare cant fine any more thanks jim

MISC:   Don't forget this weekend in Philly posted by: Ray on 3/31/2003 at 5:54:50 PM
This weekend in Philadelphia is The Great British Bike Weekend. Check it out, swap on Sunday.

AGE / VALUE:   Retro Raleigh's Returned and Re-born! posted by: humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 3/31/2003 at 4:18:12 PM
I'm glad the former webmaster of Retro Raleigh's liked the idea of entrusting the web site's future to Sheldon Brown.
The site is now back up and better than before at: http://RetroRaleigh.com
One quick look will tell you that Sheldon has been working hard at broadening and improving it. He's adding content and this already is (and will likely be more so in the future) THE PLACE to go on the web for information on the many versions of Raleigh's bicycles. The collection of original catalogs is excellent and I suspect our captain is just getting started.
All this on top of the already excellent resources that Sheldon has posted at http://www.Sheldonbrown.com
Lead the way, Captain!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Retro Raleigh's Returned and Re-born! posted by Chris on 3/31/2003 at 4:34:29 PM
Sorry, it's: http://RetroRaleigh's.com

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Retro Raleigh's Returned and Re-born! posted by Sheldon Brown on 3/31/2003 at 4:40:46 PM
Thanks for the kind words, but there's no apostrophe:


Hey, Isn't Vin's new morphing bicycle gif cool! :-)
All the best,


MISC:   Repair indicator chains? posted by: Edward in Vancouver on 3/31/2003 at 4:06:41 AM
Shifted my FG into 1st the other day,and I crashed into 4th, yup, the little chain on the 4 spd indicator chain snapped. I've got enough 3 spd indicators to choose and salvage from, but does anyone have an idea how to attach the chain onto the actual indicator pin? I suppose in a pinch I could use a bent finishing nail or a 16 guage spoke, but it would look like hell, and probably catch on something, like my pants...
Fine little screws from a watchmaker maybe? Anyone have any ideas other than forking out $$ for a new indicator?

   RE:MISC:   Repair indicator chains? posted by Jeff R on 3/31/2003 at 12:53:08 PM
I use a punch and carefuly remove a pin from the AW chain, then re rivit it to the FG rod. You will need to make a fixture to rest the chain on in order to remove the pin. File a groove into a steel plate or block just wide enough for the pin to drop into. Lay the chain over the groove and using a sharp hardened punch, tap lightly and carefuly and the pin should push through the link. To re rivit it use a punch with a flat face and tap softly on the pin and it should squish out and hold the link in place. Most of the FW and FM hubs that I have acquired had broken chains. This is the way that I fix them.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Repair indicator chains? posted by Chris on 3/31/2003 at 6:35:28 PM
I'll never forget Jimmy who had a bread bag tie stuck through the Sturmey-Archer A.W. indicator chain and it was tied up into a ball and it kept the bike in 1st gear!
No gear cable on the bike and Jimmy had the Schwinn ten speed set up with steel French cranks that were homemade bolted onto the Schwinn cranks.
The combination he had enabled him to really fly.
With all the broken four speed indicator chains I have I will have to get down on this the right way and look into a shop that sells rivits like the company used to put these together and the right proper crazy tool to repair these right.
These indicator chains got mashed and twisted and they break off too.
This is why they had small metal (indicator chain side) covers and the later day plastic covers( The ones that the Chopper folks pay big $ for) Also, Sturmey-Archer made derailer type guards that protected the Sturmey- Archer hub from when you knocked over the bike onto this chain.
I have pulled out whole drawers full of these chains but the four speed stuff always was less plentiful and more expensive and far more elusive.
They used to show visitors( Shop owners who were there on the factory tour) the manufacture of this part.

I suspect a watch shop may be able to help with this. Tools and parts maybe?
There is a wide variety of indicator chains as there was a wide variety of hubs.
All the many types of Sturmey's and the B.S.A. hub and the Fitchel and Sachs stuff.
Different length spindles at the chain end for diffrent length axles too.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Repair indicator chains? posted by Edward in Vancouver on 4/1/2003 at 3:08:58 AM
Thanks for the tips. Although I've gotten a very reasonable offer for a new one, I'd rather "fool around" first. It's just that its more fun to do things the complicated way. I've made a new spring for a 4 spd trigger and even replaced the stripped axle and shot cones from a GH6 with an AW, using AW and FG cones, patiently adding on 1/2" of new "Threading" on the axle with old pitted AW cones. I used about 5 cones for this job, as each one gives out after about a 1/16", then you have to toss them out. Oh, B.T.W Warren, I haven't gotten around to "Zen and the art of Motorcycle mantainence" yet, but it's on my "To Do" list...

MISC:   cotter pin press posted by: geo on 3/31/2003 at 1:31:49 AM
I know this has been mentioned, in fact there was a reference to a couple of these on e-bay awhile back. Does aanyone know where I can find a cotter pin press. I have finally decided after the umpteenth time of sandwiching the crank arm and an old socket(to catch the cotter pin) in between an old heavy duty C-clamp that I do in fact need one. Although this method does work it always looks like its going to fly apart in my face, it's making me nervous now(I don't recomend it). Thanks Geo(p.s. I checked Park Tool's website and it appears they no longer offer one)

   RE:MISC:   cotter pin press posted by David on 3/31/2003 at 3:44:49 AM
Park no longer makes 'em, but they do turn up on Ebay from time to time. And Harris Cyclery has them on the web site (and they have TWO hanging on their tool board at the shop).

   RE:RE:MISC:   cotter pin press posted by Jeff R on 3/31/2003 at 12:28:48 PM
I found one on ebay. Last November or December there were 4 of them offered. They went for $ 60.00 to $75.00.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   cotter pin press posted by mike on 3/31/2003 at 1:40:45 PM
With them going for $60-$75, Park should start making them again. They can't cost more than a buck or two to manufacture, probably no more than 5 cents in some U.S. owned Asian sweatshop.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   cotter pin press posted by Warren on 3/31/2003 at 2:32:21 PM
Sure..they're a buck or two if you make 100,000 units. I doubt they could sell more than a 100. $50 for a well made specialty tool isn't larceny.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   cotter pin press posted by Chris on 3/31/2003 at 4:44:38 PM
This tool sold for $40.00, "back in the day" Now it's going up in value already.A cotter pin removal tool appreciating on e- bay not too long after it was commonly available. What does that say?
I have said it before, that is is stupid that they stopped making this tool. Peple will go elsewhere and make their own tool.(or tools) Another company should ofer this. Hey, look for a need than needs filling and start a business!
Perhaps it's part of an effort to brush these type of bicycles away? Hmmm....

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: cotter pin press posted by J. M. Vernooy on 4/1/2003 at 3:19:42 AM
I'm sure Mike didn't mean any disrespect to Park Tool when he said the cotter pin press couldn't cost much made in an Asian sweatshop. I don't recall ever seeing a Park tool that didn't say "Made in USA". I don't know if everything from Park Tool is made in USA. I'm one of their customers and I work for a store that has sold Park tools for many years. I called Park Tool about two weeks ago about our store not being listed on their list of dealers and they were very kind to add us to their list before the end of the next day. I asked about the cotter pin press and I got the impression that they might, just possibly, some day, bring it back in a limited model run if they were certain the demand was there. Maybe it was wishfull thinking, or just my imagination, but it didn't sound like they would rule that out. I didn't tell them that I had been repairing bicycles and therefore also removing and installing cottered cranks for years and had never used a cotter pin press. Although I said that I wasn't asking them to make one for me, I did tell the Park Tool representative that there are others who might be interested. There is a virtual tour of their factory in the US at http://www.parktool.com/about_us/tour/tourstart.shtml

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: cotter pin press posted by Frank in Boise on 4/1/2003 at 2:41:34 PM
What method do you to remove cotter pins?
I've been using a vise and a socket wrench, which works pretty well, aside from having to prop the bike into position.
And Sheldon Brown describes a specific hammer and punch procedure...
One other question: the new cotter pins which I've gotten don't seem as good as the old ones (in terms of their metallurgy). Is there a good source for high-quality cotter pins?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: cotter pin press posted by J. M. Vernooy on 4/2/2003 at 12:55:47 AM
I learned from the manual that came with my 1960 Hercules Hawthorne in 1960, "A Few Simple Maintenance Hints". I have made a few changes to that method like using an iron steam pipe cut to the correct length to support the crank arm instead of a block of wood and I usually use a hammer instead of a copper mallet. And I leave the nut on the bolt part of the crank cotter pin until the crank cotter pin has been hit a few times and releases from the crank. And what is possibly the most important is to soak the area between the crank cotter pin and the crank with WD40 by spraying it around both ends of the hole in the crank arm where the crank cotter pin is and letting it sit overnight. Many of the bicycles that use crank cotter pins have been left sitting around with no use nor service for many years and often the crank cotter bolt is rusted in. The amount of rust that will hold the crank cotter in can't even ususally be seen until it is out of the crank arm. If you want to see that page in the booklet of Maintenance Hints that I refer to, the link follows:
I still like working on cottered cranks better than cotterless cranks. If the bicycle gets maitenance every year or two, those cotter pins come out easily with only a few hits of a hammer or mallet. A cottered crank can be removed and replace faster than a cotterless crank if the cotters come out easily.
As for better crank cotters, if the company in England is still in business, and still makes crank cotter pins, I may soon have a source for crank cotter bolts similar to the originals. I have been talking to a distributor who says he can still get them imported from England. I don't know for sure. It sounds too good to be true. I half expect him to find that the company is either out of business or no longer making crank cotters. I think he said the name of the manufcturer is Reliant. I remember a company with that name or something like it from long ago when all bicycle parts distributors carried many bicycle items imported from England.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: cotter pin press posted by J. M. Vernooy on 4/2/2003 at 1:01:36 AM
Sorry that was a link to the front page of the "Maintenance Hints" booklet. The link to the page that discusses crank cotter pins is

FOR SALE:   Sturmey Archer Dynohub with matching head light & bracket posted by: JAG on 3/30/2003 at 11:17:57 PM
Any english riders out there?? Sturmey Archer Dynohub in nice shape and the matching head light & bracket.
Hey use it for display!!! or do custom project with it??
Or find the rear light and lace it into the correct sturmey wheel to add the finishing touch to your english ride!!
Email me for pic, info etc!!

AGE / VALUE:   Warwick 3 speed posted by: Tucker on 3/30/2003 at 7:37:16 AM
Just acquired two three speeds, one a Raleigh Sports circa 1962, and a Warwick, still has rear fender with decal, chain guard, and strum/archer hub. The front wheel is missing, and the mattress seat is beyond repair. The cable housing is moldy. It has a city bike sticker from 1964 on it. Any info? Search of the Net yeilds nothing.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Triumph Bikes on Ebay posted by: Tom on 3/30/2003 at 2:32:24 AM
There is a very nice pair of Triumph roadsters on ebay. They have fully enclosed chaincases, rear dyno hubs Brooks seats, bags etc. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2167360297&category=420

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Triumph Bikes on Ebay posted by P.C. Kohler on 3/30/2003 at 4:14:22 AM
Indeed. Especially since they are sold as "Raleigh", they are actually Triumphs. And just Triumphs, but Triumph "Warwicks", no. 420, the top of the range. These look like they date from 1955-56 just when Triumph production was moved to Nottingham.

The only caveats to these (besides what I suspect will be hefty reserve): note the gents is a 21" frame whilst the ladies, oddly, is a 23". And do read the shipping requirements including $150.00 for crating....!

But nothing like a matched set especially if the special lady in your life is taller than you!

P.C. Kohler

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   age /value posted by: Arvi Lomp on 3/29/2003 at 7:39:12 PM
Hello everybody!
I have an old bike Phillips model Supreme(from 30`s).There are pictures of it in picture database.I interested of the value and other information what is connected with that bike.
P.S. I`m ready to sell it!!!

AGE / VALUE:    Pictures of Bell Heaven Oh My, they're in the original boxes!! posted by: humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 3/29/2003 at 5:25:47 PM
E- bay item #2166895906 Lucas Bicycle Bell Raleigh Rudge Carlton B.S.A.
Oh, I just wish I could see where this fellow found this stuff from.
What wharehouse? Where does he find these goodies?
I loves these bells!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    Pictures of Bell Heaven Oh My, they're in the original boxes!! posted by Brian on 3/30/2003 at 11:36:52 AM
At the last Larz Anderson swap meet, I went to a table loaded with John Bull brake pads, nos GH-6's & AW hubs, Raleigh fenders, stems, bars, etc. and..I spotted a mint Lucas bell! - but before I could grab it, a woman nonchalantly picked it up, and said, "oh, this is shiny & pretty - I'll take it!"
In that moment I felt like the biggest all-time loser of all. I wasn't about to try to bargain for HER bell, because it's human nature for an owner to sense they really have something if someone wants it badly enough.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:    Pictures of Bell Heaven Oh My, they're in the original boxes!! posted by VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 3/30/2003 at 9:21:36 PM
Speaking of the Larz Anderson show....

There will be no swap meet at Larz this year. The past few shows have been, and I quote:

"Too much like a flea market".


We're finalizing details on a big Northeast Bicycle Swap meet for Sunday August 24, 2003. It WILL BE A BIG FLEA MARKET, with free admission, cheap vendor tables, spots for vendors who like to sell out of their vehicles, and tables and boxes full of old bikes and parts.

Watch this space for details!

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.

WANTED:   Bell posted by: Edward in Vancouver on 3/29/2003 at 1:28:41 PM
I've finally got to the point where I'm ready for a bell for my Superbe. Anyone out there have one? Trade or cash.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   28" wheels posted by: David on 3/29/2003 at 11:57:03 AM
What's the "effective rim diameter" for Westwood 28" steel rims? Spocalc, the spoke length calculator for MS Excel, doesn't have it.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 28 posted by P.C. Kohler on 3/29/2003 at 2:36:55 PM
No surprise some computer programme thingy has never heard of the most common bicycle wheel on the planet! I guess there are not a lot of DL-1s in Silicon Valley.

Not to worry, Roll Britannia has an official spoke length chart (and YES THESE ARE IN INCHES!) for all Sturmey Archer hubs.


If what you need isn't here, I have an even more comprehensive chart I can send you.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   28 posted by Frank in Boise on 3/31/2003 at 6:11:03 AM
If you have the rim in hand, you can simply measure the ERD, using two spokes and a good-quality tape measure, as explained on the Damon Rinard web site at:

AGE / VALUE:   Christopher take a look at........... posted by: sam on 3/28/2003 at 10:52:20 PM
The 28" wheeled Galaxe ! http://www.fahrradscheune.de/Raeder/Faltraeder.htm

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Christopher take a look at........... posted by Mark R. on 3/29/2003 at 9:46:30 PM
Unless I miss my guess, isn't that a modern version of an old "Paratrooper" frame??? Sure looks like it.

   The best bicycle idea I have yet seen! I'm going to get myself one of these! posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 3/31/2003 at 8:20:06 PM
Yes it is!
This should be The New Paratrooper's Bicycle!
That wonderful, joy to ride, easily, gliding along, tireless to ride all day frame but with modern 28 inch wheels and tires!
They took the B.S.A. Paratrooper frame and set it up with 28 inch wheels. The original B.S.A. Paratrooper had 26 X 1 3/8 tires and Endrick rims.

Notice the braces on the frame that were not there with the original B.S.A. Paratrooper bike. This one with the 28 inch wheels has the braces that were probably needed due to larger wheels.

What is so great about 28 inch wheels you may ask? A 28 inch wheel is ideal for rough roads. The ride is better, the tires are larger and more balloonish and you literally step over small chuck holes.
This bicycle combines all the best features of a 28 inch Rod brake English Raleigh style D.L.1. Tourist roadster with the best parts of the B.S.A Paratrooper bicycle.
Namely the unique frame and the fact that it folds in half.
A fellow named Krikorian rode around the world on a B.S.A. Paratrooper bicycle and he commented at the time ( 1960's) that the unique frame made for a enjoyable to ride and easy to propel cycle!)
I have owned and ridden a B.S.A. Paratrooper before and this is a unique machine.
Mr. Krikorian rode his with a hybrid gear set- up which is a Sturmey-Archer hub with derailer cogs fitted on it's driver and combined with a derailer like an Huret Alvit or something even better and it's tough to beat an Alvit) You can use a double or tripple chain wheel in frot too.

This new bike with the 28 inch wheels? You can use modern tires and a new, modern braking system that will stop on a dime. You don't have to be a collector and hip to the scene here to find tires and parts.
I'll bet I can take this full sized 28 inch wheel folder onto a city bus!
Gives a whole new meaning to inexpensive traveling and commuting. A better Brompton or Birdy this is!
Sheldon Brown wrote about the Raleigh Twenty that he hopped up and a whole new following sprung up with diffrent folks fixing up the old Raleigh Twenty's.

Crazy me is already thinking about fitting a motor to it too!

Motor info is available at the Bikerodnkustom web site.
Sheldonbrown.com (Raleigh Twenty web site) Hadland.net for mention of the B.S.A. Paratrooper frame in an article about: The Royal Enfield Revelation (Vic Bott)

I remove my hat and bow down and say: Thank- You Sam and Mark R. For telling me about this!
I'm going to get one of these.
Now back to the web site and try to figure out how much U.S. $ This will cost and can I get it here in the States?
This cycle looks German. It's all good to go, with modern componets!
Wish me luck!