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Archived: English Roadsters

AGE / VALUE:   Hercules Bicycle with locking forks posted by: humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 4/12/2003 at 7:49:47 PM
Has anybody here ever seen a Hercules Cycle and Motor Co. Bicycle with a locking fork?
This would be an original Hercules before the Raleigh takeover. A diffrent arrangement unlike Raleigh's.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules Bicycle with locking forks posted by Tim on 4/15/2003 at 4:00:48 PM
Hi Chris,

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules Bicycle with locking forks posted by Tim on 4/15/2003 at 4:05:23 PM
Hi Chris,
Do you mean the lock with key that Hercules had mounted on the down tube behind the steerer or the thumbscrew lock they had on the top of the steerer to stop the bike falling over when parked. There was another type from the 1920s I have not seen which was on the righthand side with the lock barrel vertical. Only problem with that one was if you left the key in it snapped off when you turned a corner.


AGE / VALUE:   Put down that spray can! posted by: Chris on 4/12/2003 at 4:06:15 PM
This latest find is a 26 X 1 3/8 tire black spray painted mess!
I stoped and studied it and when I noticed the war time black finished New Departure coaster brake hub with oiler and it is a skip tooth with chain in good condition. Also the crank is skip tooth and good. The bottom bracket crank bearings are a type I have never seen before. Anyways, I picked it up!
Tires are Goodyear and are marked War Grade!
The hubs and tires and chain was spared from painting. The bike is ruined by this paint. It old and representative of this companies bikes of that period. I forget the name, there is a badge but it's ruined too.
I want to part it out but I'll just hang it up and cover it with a tarp so I don't have to look at it and be aggrivated. It was neat find. The New Departure hubs that thrill me are the DD Two speed models.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Put down that spray can! posted by sam on 4/13/2003 at 3:56:50 PM
Those tires are not 26"X 1.375"?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Tires are 26 X 1 1/4 but are wide! posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 4/13/2003 at 5:53:09 PM
I took a better look at it and the tires are 26 x1 1/4 ! The rims are wide like a 26 X 1 3/8 and the spoke holes are staggered with every other hole being over almost to the side of the rim's edge. Strange! War time finish on rear hub.
The tires are awful wide and tall for being 26 X 1 1/4 size!
Goodyears but the one rear was flat when I found it and thus it has the cracked spot that is about 2 inches wide!
It says 26 X 1 1 /4 on it.
The bike is a ladies frame, interesting frame style. Still forget the name but I'll add it to this thread.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Tires are 26 X 1 1/4 but are wide! posted by Chris on 4/14/2003 at 11:32:09 PM
It's a Hawthorne. Pre-war in there, ladies frame.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Tires are 26 X 1 1/4 but are wide! posted by Warren on 4/15/2003 at 12:25:28 PM
Sounds like the Schwinn s-6 tire size...it has the same 597mm bead size as EA-1/26 X 1 1/4 tires but is generally wider. Maybe this bike is a Schwinn?

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Tires are 26 X 1 1/4 but are wide! posted by Chris on 4/15/2003 at 4:13:52 PM
The badge says Wards Hawthorne on it.
The small front chainring is being mounted on a Schwinn as part of another crazed skip tooth project.
First skip tooth chain I have seen with a master link.
The bike does look Schwinnish due to the handlebars and the bottom cranks. Whole thing was free and fun. Thanks for the replys.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Lots of Roadsters/Racers Ebay Eng. posted by: Tom on 4/12/2003 at 3:39:04 PM
I was on ebay.uk and saw a lot of bikes but most will be local pickup only. If there is someone in England you could get some good deals now.
New Hudson http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2168965418&rd=1
Armstrong http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2168994644&rd=1
Humber http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2169160550&rd=1
Raleigh/Rudge http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2169214495&rd=1
Raleigh http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2169777467&rd=1
Russ http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2169039987&category=

AGE / VALUE:   BSA ROADSTER posted by: SPOKE on 4/12/2003 at 3:00:10 PM

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Why not go to the source? posted by: Mike on 4/12/2003 at 1:46:43 PM
Given the fervor for these old British bikes, why don't one of you guys hop a plane to London where they're cheap and plentiful, crate up a bunch, ship 'em back via steamer, and make yourself some $$$? Round trip air fare to London from New York is less than $300 now days.

AGE / VALUE:   Oh no, it's not for sale! posted by: Chris on 4/11/2003 at 8:59:45 PM
I asked about the white tipped english bike in the garage. "It is an antique, worth a lot and was riden by a grandfather!
Oh, no not for sale!"
Excited talk about it. I stepped up and took a look. No, it was not anything like a vintage D.L.1.
It was a Austrian 3 speed Sears bike. Mens but ratty.
Looks good hanging up in the garage, yes.
Not for sale, definitly no!
I'm totally heartbroken!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Oh no, it's not for sale! posted by David on 4/13/2003 at 4:06:00 AM
I have 3 Sear's Austrian 3 speeds-although all women's-but they are all for sale! Can be seen at:
I'll do $75.00 each plus about $20.00 fedex.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Oh no, it's not for sale! posted by Chris on 4/13/2003 at 5:54:43 PM
That's ok, I'll pass. This is about what these are worth however, 75.00 tops!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   For Sale Sturmey Archer DynoHub & Matchinh Headlight woth Bracket posted by: JAG on 4/11/2003 at 8:29:53 PM
Any english riders out there?? Sturmey Archer Dynohub in nice shape and the matching head light & bracket.
Hey use it for display!!! or do a custom project with it??
Or find the rear light and lace it into the correct sturmey wheel to add the finishing touch to your english ride!!
Email me for pic, Etc. This set up is nice!!!!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   flip-flop hubs on old "sports" models ? posted by: Frank in Boise on 4/11/2003 at 6:31:47 PM

In response to a recent question on cotter pins, John Vernooy gave a link to a 1960's Hercules bicycle manual. It is, as he said, a nice manual and interesting to read.

On page 10 there is a reference to sprocket exchange in "sports" models, which reads in part "The rear wheel on these models has a fixed sprocket on one side and a freewheel on the other."
This sounds like what would currently be called a flip-flop hub.

My question: what sorts of bikes were these used on? Were they club bikes with drop bars, or upright bikes with North Road bars? Time-trial bikes? What was the intended market? Why the flip-flop instead of the SA 3-speed? For greater efficiency?

Page 10 of the manual is:


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: flip-flop hubs on old posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/11/2003 at 7:03:51 PM
Frank, up until the late 'fifties, most "club" bikes sold in England came with this sort of set-up. That is "fixed" and "free" sprocket/freewheel. In other words, a single gear. The catalogues would almost always then list multi-gear options at an added cost: various types of S/A hubs (including those wonderful alloy close ratio ones that cost more now than the whole bike!), Cyclo-Benelux gears, early derailleurs etc. It was just part of how bikes were sold then: gears were still considered "extra" and as such, the buyer could decide what he needed and what he could afford. It also meant that each machine was custom-built and fitted as you could also add a dynohub etc. Indeed, the Raleigh Record Ace's "specs" were more like a "menu" of options rather than a take it or leave it deal.

Export, it was different. Most club bikes sold in the USA and Canada came with a S/A hub gear and often nothing more remarkable than a steel shell AW. You could still upgrade at time of ordering.

Also pre-war, almost ALL bikes were sold as single-gear with variations having gears or again a menu of gear options. It didn't matter if it was a club bike or a roadster.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   flip-flop hubs on old posted by Warren on 4/11/2003 at 10:29:08 PM
The bike culture in Britain was one that saw a lot of clubs and club races. There were many club bikes and path racers sold to these sporting cyclists. Bikes were much more expensive relative to incomes and people could rarely afford more than one bike. So they were multi-purpose. These bikes were often ridden to a race casually with freewheel. At the race the wheel would be flipped to the fixed position...apparently some bikes had quick release mudguards...off with the fenders and go!. Back to the freewheel for the ride home.

As to the question why "flip-flop instead of the SA 3-speed"...fixed gear is faster unless the terrain is up and down. All world hour marks are established on fixed gears...try it. I just spent the day on my 50's Dunelt club bike replica. No world records but tomorrow's another day.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Scorchers July 4 NYC Cruise posted by: JimW. on 4/11/2003 at 7:06:25 AM
The NYC chapter of SCORCHERS Bicycle Mob is considering a July 4 cruise down Broadway from Central Park, starting at noon to welcome Rif Addams to town, at the conclusion of the Across America On A Motor Bicycle Centennial Run. I'm tired of waiting for a decision to be made about my proposal for an official July 4 bike parade. We don't need those bureaucrats and cycle snobs to have a ride. Anyone interested, in the NYC area or anywhere else, E-mail me directly for more information, and to sign up. Jim Wilson jwilson20@nyc.rr.com All riders of interesting bikes are welcome. Riding under the influence is optional. ;-)

AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by: P.C. Kohler on 4/10/2003 at 11:38:57 PM
"How 'bout that?"

That 1937 Raleigh 22" DL-1 on Bay that had all of us going: "Auction Ended Early Because of Error in Listing".

18 bids, $361.00

Something not quite right about this, methinks.

P.C. Kohler

   WTB 1937 DL-1/Enclosed Chaincase etc... posted by Warren on 4/11/2003 at 12:58:53 AM
That was "Ron's" bike yes?

Maybe he'll be kind enough to explain what went wrong...maybe he got an offer he couldn't refuse.

   the 37 roadster posted by ron on 4/11/2003 at 10:24:30 AM
I went to my storage bin in NJ Thursday to pick up the old 37 roadster and I realized the b-66 was no ware to be found, that’s problem #1. I brought the bike back to Manhattan and left the bike with mt doorman and he obviously took his eyes off the bike for a second and someone stole the frame pump, I received many offers and declined them all because of the unfairness to all my fellew e-bayers, I’m trying to obtain a frame pump as we speak. I felt that these two problems were good enough reasons to end the auction, the bike will be re-posted soon.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by Charlie W. on 4/11/2003 at 11:46:36 AM
Something has the distinct aroma of "fish" here. You really should have let the auction ride. The highest bidding is in the last minute or two of the last hour. Three or four hundred bucks is still pretty good for a very old "utilitarian" bicycle that has been around since before WWII. I will be surprized is it doesn't show up again on auction soon. You should have left the B-90 saddle on it as well. I will make sure NOT to bid on this bike next time as well.

   RE:the 37 roadster posted by Charlie on 4/11/2003 at 2:20:56 PM
I don't buy it! I think you're a cad. A creep looking to make big bucks, and don't give a crap about people, or these bike, else you'd keep it. It is exactly the type of bike everyone here would keep if they owned it. I think you're just a money grubbing cad. I don't believe a frikkin' word you say.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by Mark R. on 4/11/2003 at 2:24:48 PM
Whoa! See what happens? I kind of wonder about the whole thing myself, and since I bid on this bike as well, I wonder if I've been had. I was gonna bid WAY higher too. I think I'll "shy" away next time too!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by Stacey on 4/11/2003 at 3:28:02 PM
Just WTF is wrong with all of you? This all wreaks of "Guilt by Accusation". It's seems to me that 'Ron' is at worst a person who buys & sells bicycles... or is there an undercurrent that I'm missing. I've been following this drama closely so, I don't think that's the case.

So what, the guy posts adds looking to buy bicycles here? So what, the guy sells bicycles on eBay? So what, the guy ends his auction early because of "An Error in the Listing"... and with what I believe to be a plausible explination? Would you rather he let the auction run it's course and then inform you that those pieces are missing, or worse yet say nothing and ship an incomplete bike? Ha, then you'd have good grounds for public crucifixion now wouldn't you?

In the infamous words of Stan Marsh & Kyle Broflovsky... 'I've learned something today'. I've you deal in the English bicycle trade, stay away from this board or get nailed to it, by it!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by Mark R. on 4/11/2003 at 3:55:01 PM
I apologize! I read all the comments without paying atention to the guys responce. I was an ass! I'll lay low for a while....

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Plot Thickens posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/11/2003 at 6:50:44 PM
Stacey, I don't know Ron or anything about him except he is a regular on this list asking to buy English Roadsters. Who Isn't?!

My initial posting was simply to alert members that this already much-discussed auction (I believe the discussion centred on the bike not Ron) had ended early. And as so often when this happens, it DOES raise eyebrows coming just before the "serious" bidding starts. It doesn't mean me or anyone else is suggesting Ron is some wicked, evil person. He just has a real swell bike and I am glad I don't live in his neighbourhood where a frame pump can be stolen THAT quickly!! Yikes!

I hope this lovely machine finds a good home.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by Matthew on 4/11/2003 at 7:26:54 PM
Now this my friends is how wars start.Very few of us don't trade bikes. I have given them away, sold at a loss, and made handsome profits. I don't think that makes me a villian, I consider myself a collector who changes cycles around to acheive a collection that is pleasing to behold. Other people may have differing motives for posting on this board, profit is a major force in commerce and some folk are driven by it. (no accusation - mere fact) However none of us have to sell any cycle to anyone if we don't wish to. Ron has explained that he gets several responses to his messages and has obtained cycles this way. That is what he wishes to do and other folks are willing to co-operate. His success or failure is his own business. We don't have to buy from or sell to Ron, and its bad for your blood pressure to get steamed up about such matters. Remember: people are dying for freedom all over the world right now, that puts our hobby in perspective.

Enjoy freedom and take nothing for granted. Ride safely, ride a Raliegh All-steel!


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by Chris on 4/11/2003 at 8:48:59 PM
Ok, I see what has happened here.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by geo on 4/11/2003 at 9:56:54 PM
Frankly, you all worry me. There are times when I read these posts lately that I wonder if the whole lot of you wouldn't sell your mothers soul for a Raleigh Sports. There was a day when this board didn't exsist and I had alot of fun buying British bikes on the cheap(more than $20 for a Sports was laughable and I had never seen a DL-1 but they were about $100). Some of you have become rabid. If you already have 50 bicycles and you miss out on ONE relax. If one gets away then so be it. Have any of you ever looked at a seller or dealer and said, "No thanks, that's too much money."? Do you guys haggle? There will be plenty of other bikes you can overpay for.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Plot Thickens posted by M.R. on 4/12/2003 at 1:15:48 AM
Sage words. It's the weather. Moon phase. Something like that. Let's all have a Guiness, and forget it.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Plot Thickens posted by ron on 4/12/2003 at 1:16:34 AM
the only person with any knowledge and sense, feedback is important to me, thanks for being reasonable PC kohler, and to everyone else yes this is the cleanest origanal roadster I've ever seen, no need to back stabb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   WOW:   Plot Thickens posted by ron on 4/12/2003 at 1:39:07 AM
You guys are brutal, instead of remorse your full of hate, you all GOT TO CHILL, anyway thanks to all who didn’t bash!!!! P.C. Kohler, Stacey, and I guess Mark R, and Charlie I think you might need a vacation!

   RE:WOW:   Plot Thickens posted by Edward in Vancouver on 4/12/2003 at 2:32:54 AM
For the past few days it's been raining so persistantly, I couldn't tell if there's a full moon out or not. Reading this thread answers my question...

   RE:RE:WOW:   Plot Thickens posted by PAUL V on 4/12/2003 at 9:36:53 AM
buying and selling bikes is no different to buying and selling vintage cars.in actual fact people like ron are sometimes the best people to find you the things you need,they are always out there tradinf and seeing whats around,he has the time and the patience to do what a lot of us would kill for a job.there have been a few occasions where i spent months looking for stuff and simply came to a conclusion that i would never find what i wanted,lo and behold a good mate who is a bit of horse trader(thats what we call dealers in australia)made one phone call and voila.about the bike,i would be pissed off i received it missing this that and the other,i think what ron did was the smartest and most ethical anyone could do,dont forget its his bike and he can do whatever he likes.keep in mind that they are collectable to a point,there were sqillions made and sold.

AGE / VALUE:   Unusual '57 Superbe posted by: Warren on 4/10/2003 at 9:58:14 PM
Sorry for the cross-post from Roll Britainnia...

Picked up a thoroughly thrashed 1957 Superbe that is different from
any other I've seen. It has a lamp mount on the right front fork
complete with Sturmey lamp...cool! The stem is also nice...it is
lugged and has a nice pattern...more like a GB then the standard
Sports fare. Front Dyno on trashed rim. The rear is an SW, also on a
trashed rim. The front fork ends are chrome tipped! It has an integral braze
on for the shifter pulley...no clamp.The mudguards
are also chrome and have double wire stays as opposed to the stronger
steel ones usually found on a Superbe. Saddle is a replacement.
Finally it is grey with a white headtube and the seat tube has a big
red Superbe on a white panel.

Has anyone seen the likes of this one?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Unusual '57 Superbe posted by Tim on 4/11/2003 at 11:53:29 AM
You have what sounds loke a Superbe Sports. It sounds similar to one I have. I have discovered that there were a couple of sub models to the generic superbe and that export models were even morte diverse. The one I have has 26" wheels and a hockey stick chain guard. The chain guard is not the same as those usually found but is shorter and only covers the top portion of the chain wheel. The mudguards and fork tips are chrome. Like yours the one I have is pretty beat up and is hanging up in the roof of my workshop waiting for restoration. An interseting bike I picked up from the dump last week, looks like a superbe, has all the usual spec but has 27" wheels, an FW 4 speed dyno hub, cotterless cranks, leather brooks b66 saddle alloy mudguards, and strangely a full chaincase. It has superbe on the down tube plus all the usual decals. The clue is a dealers transfer in Dutch. The machine was made in the Netherlands or Holland. It just goes to show that Raleigh had many types for different countries.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Unusual '57 Superbe posted by sam on 4/11/2003 at 3:23:55 PM
Tim,that short guard was used for the derailer bikes.Would work great for the internal hub with cyclo gears added too.Warren tells how to do this with modern shamino cogs,Or the sram 3by7 hub which is a remake of the old torpedo internal hub with gears added.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Unusual '57 Superbe posted by Tim on 4/11/2003 at 3:55:03 PM
Yes your' right there is a short rather ornamental guard used on deraileur cycles but the one on mine is not of this type. It fixes to the chainstay about three quartes back from the bottom bracket and curves over the chain so preventing any lateral movement. The type used by raleigh for deraileur bikes is single sided and merely covers the top of the chain. Incidently I have a Cyclo Benelux conversion on an old Triumph Tourist that I have had for years. Unfortunately it is only a 22" frame and I need 25" or even bigger.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Unusual '57 Superbe posted by sam on 4/11/2003 at 8:39:57 PM
Cool Tim,I've only seen that one in photos.It hugs the chain tightly,right? Wonder what the reason is?And Tom had a nice old 26" tourist for sale,don't know if he sold it or not.

AGE / VALUE:   Helmets anybody? posted by: Chris on 4/10/2003 at 7:57:45 PM
Went past a school today and there were small kids everywhere riding bikes and all of them without a bicycle helmet. Also saw three of them roll out along the crosswalk past the guard. They rode along and did not get off and walk the bicycle.
I suppose the quicker you get across the street the less chance you have of getting struck but the laws are very diffrent. One is supposed to walk the bicycle across a street. People were jaywalking everywhere too. I guess the crosswalk is too far to walk to to use huh? Not good people!
People are upset at losing a parking space and they literally rush/roar down the street. I'm scared that some little kid will walk out between the cars and get hit. I pray that I do not witness that ever in my lifetime, better still that it never happen. No new little childs bicycle should be sold without a helmet. A new properly fitting helmet too. Why do folks let their kids ride around without a helmet? I do not understand! In my day, we had poles with reflective flags on the bicycles. It was for drivers to see a flag and know that there is a kid on a bike. This is not being done anymore? Learning bicycle safety is part of growing up and learning the proper way to conduct oneself. This is done early on. A bicycle is a responsibility and children are supposed to be taught the proper ways of handling a bike and getting to know the laws that govern bikes and this is done way before one is old enough to handle a car. Geez! all the stuff you have to know about that. A whole book full of laws and rules and common sense things one needs to know. Rip the pages that cover cyclist's laws and hand signals and the stuff relating to bicycles out of the drivers instruction rule book that the Secretary of State issues. Or make up another booklet, and get it into the hands of school children and their parents and go over these things! The booklets are at the Secretary of State but how are the children going to get ahold of it? Little kids don't go to the Secretary of States office! Late at night the adults walk around the neighborhood which is a dark unlit street in dark clothing. They are jogging and walking dogs. A very few carry flashlights. A reflective safety vest only costs like $2.50 or so, and I guess the folks that do buy them don't remember to carry them and use them. Everybody (well almost) is high up driving these huge S.U.V.'s too. One would think that folks would not roar around town in these but they do.
This is one school that I saw, How many other schools across the country are letting bicycle safety issues slip? Not just kids also but older people.
Somebody needs to be taking up bicycle safety issues in the schools for the safety of children for heavens sake! In my old C.T.C. Cyclists Touring Club books from years back I see that Raleigh promoted and worked with cycle safety programs and classes. They even covered cycle maintence. In the U.S. nothing like this is in place? I don't know what the scene is exactly, but it is not working. Look, every school has a Dads Club, right? We need a dad or two to take bicycle safety issues in the schools.
Attended a rummage sale at a church and it was a mob scene, too many people, pushing and shoving and if you fall you'll get trampled. Too many people packed together down little hallways. One lady broke into a run! Small rooms you can't get into. Picked up a Raleigh ten speed $5.00, better to get out into the outside still. A policeman had pulled over somebody to ticket and he had his empty car stoped at a angle for safety. For him, the stopped person's car, to protect the scene I guess. That's smart thinking but the officer's uniform was all dark blue. The street was dark, it took a minute to spot the officer where he was. Good thing his car was at an angle.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Helmets anybody? posted by Mark R. on 4/11/2003 at 2:27:31 PM
You know, it's funny. I insist my little one wear a helmet, and I always wear one when I ride my roadracer, but I never wear one on the Raleigh. I don't know why.

FOR SALE:   RALEIGH S3C BROWN posted by: SPOKE on 4/10/2003 at 2:56:58 PM
ITEM #3603409508

MISC:   COVENTRY LAMP BRACKET posted by: Mario Romano - Brazil on 4/10/2003 at 2:43:41 PM

I bought two lamp brackets that have a "C" and a "CE". That means Coventry and Coventry Eagle? Somebody haves some clue on what bicycle these lamp brackets fits?

   RE:MISC:   COVENTRY LAMP BRACKET posted by sam on 4/10/2003 at 9:28:21 PM
Mead of Liverpool sold the Coventry Eagle.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   GBBW 2003 Photos posted by: Brian on 4/10/2003 at 2:19:00 PM
-Shameless plug for Roll Britannia-

I've posted some photos over at: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/rollbritannia/lst?.dir=/Topical&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/

You need to join us to see all these great pictures!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   GBBW 2003 Photos posted by Brian on 4/10/2003 at 2:29:38 PM
..and to join & see English Bicycle picture files, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rollbritannia/