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Archived: English Roadsters

AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by: Glenn on 5/30/2003 at 5:31:03 AM
I have a chance to purchase a mint Robin Hood bicycle made in Nottingham England and was wondering if it would be worth the $40.00 that the person wants for it. Any advice would be really appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by David on 5/30/2003 at 10:15:47 AM
Robin Hood's a perfectly good B-line Raleigh, with an inimitable head badge. Unless there's something wrong with it, $40 is ok, especially if you're planning to ride it. Post here if you need tires; I'm going to check this weekend at my LBS, which has/had an overstock of 26 x 1 3/8.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Glenn on 5/30/2003 at 10:23:50 PM
Thanks for the info Dave, About the tires, I am in need of some 27x1 1/8 that don't cost an arm and a leg. Thanks again!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Chris on 5/31/2003 at 5:38:09 PM
Mint? As in minty mint? Clean, complete with no wear on the pedals?
Mint as in bought and hardly never ridden?
Go for it! Quick! before two bike hunting sisters with eyes for vintage bikes swoop into your territory and scoop it up for $5.00!
When I said that: "Vintage bikes are mostly a guy thing" and, "what do you want with that thing for, it's a boys cantileavered frame and you don't want to ride a mens frame bike!"
She held up a muscular arm like Popeye and exclaimed: See this? We all laughed and I wished them a nice day but it ain't funny! It was a beautiful bike she has!
Yes, not only am I missing the bikes at the sales because I was too late, but now there are roving bands of muscular female bike collectors out there actively working my territory!
That's just peachy!
Fact is, many women like a stronger frame and it is not uncommon to see ladies on a mens frame bike. But vintage collectable bikes? "Sure! Why not!!" the other one told me to: "Move over!" she said.
Fact is, the ladies are not going to stick to dolls, furniture, art and scented candles and they're smart and tough! So don't be surprised when the chicks get ahead of you and head for the old bike getting it first.
It happens!
What color is this Robin Hood? these came in lilac blue and black and carmine, flamenco red.
If it's mint, the $40.00 is worth it.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Glenn on 6/1/2003 at 1:28:07 AM
Mint as in hardly ever ridden. No rust, fenders, chrome etc. all in great shape. I figure the Brooks saddle on it could auction for $40.00. By the way I think I saw those women looking at the bike Ha!. Thanks and happy hunting.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Glenn on 6/1/2003 at 1:32:50 AM
Oh yeah Chris the bike is the flamenco red and the only thing wrong with it is dust. Take Care!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by David on 6/1/2003 at 1:37:56 AM
Wow. A RED Robin Hood that's like new for $40??!! I trust you've got in your clutches now...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Chris on 6/2/2003 at 5:37:29 PM
The red ones are special usually all we see are black. Go for it, immediately.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Glenn on 6/2/2003 at 9:02:14 PM
Well Chris and David, I hope you guys were being serious. I am now the owner of that red Robin Hood. I have owned other Road bikes in the past and have had a couple that I never should have let go. This will be my first vintage and really hope to have a good experience. Thanks for the advice and I am sure I will be asking for some in the near future.
Take Care!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by cHRIS on 6/2/2003 at 11:37:35 PM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by David on 6/3/2003 at 2:39:03 AM
Nice going! My Robin Hood's all black with liberal rust around the edges, but I ride it every day and I love it. When friends get a chance to ride it they think it's great, too. You already have a leather saddle on it? That was the big investment for me. (Not too bad, though, since the bike came from the trash!)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Robin Hood posted by Glenn on 6/4/2003 at 12:33:55 AM
Hey can any of you guys recommend a good vintage repair manual with the info on the Sturmy Archer etc. Thanks!

AGE / VALUE:   for sale cycle bag posted by: paul on 5/30/2003 at 3:12:41 AM
a Robert Box wrote to me about the cycle bag I have for sale. The e mail got deleted but this is answer he is awaiting: the bag measures 6 inch across, 2 and 1/2 inch high and 2 inches deep. I have picture I can e mail. sorry about the mix up

RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1950 Clubman posted by paul on 5/23/2003 at 2:11:25 AM
I have for sale a small leather bag (just the size you describe) that was originally used by the Swiss Military for whatever? It's like new (probably never used, surplus) I'd like money order $10 postage paid included in the continental US only. Thanks! paul

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies 28" Roadster on Ebay. posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/30/2003 at 1:51:49 AM


Another late production unit. No white panel. Don't know if they are gonna get any bids on this one at that starting price!



   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies 28 posted by Marko on 5/30/2003 at 12:47:27 PM
Hey, that is diffinately NOT a late production model! My guess is that it is from the late fourties, or early fifties. "K" hub? B-33 saddle? Northroad bars? Deffinately not an 80's bike. Starting bid is way too high though.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Ladies 28 posted by P.C. Kohler on 5/30/2003 at 1:37:30 PM
Older still.. this is pre-war, c. 1930s. But priced accordingly.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Ladies 28 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/30/2003 at 11:28:46 PM
Doh!!! Please excuse my deplorably inaccurate assesment. My at-a-glance presumption was no white panel, later model. Completely forgetting that the white panel was a WW thing. As far as price, well, I will defer to the more knowledgeable and conclude that if that's what they go for, I may never own one unless I really step in something and find one hangin' in a barn or being proferred at a yard sale.



   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Ladies 28 posted by Chris on 5/31/2003 at 5:42:23 PM
I love the ladies Raleigh D.L.1. bike. Graceful, and you can ride all day.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Ladies 28 posted by Matthew on 6/1/2003 at 8:10:38 AM
We don't call these DL-1's, they are jsut Raliegh roadsters & in agreement with PC this is a thirties cycle. K-series hubs are generally numbered thus K-4 ie 1934. If you're lucky a hub could be numbered KB - 5 that's a hub braked model from 1935 etc.
I'll be tedious here as I know my audience are forebearing. The white mudguard section was a WW2 enforcement but many many cyclces were laid up during the war as owners were away on service, even ladies took up positions as Wrens WAAFs, WRACs and land army girls but bikes were too valuable to lose so they were hung in barn roofs, tucked in attics etc. Some are still there. I know of many pre1939 cycles with no white marking and no sign of ever having had one. I'd go as far as to say that I haven't evre seen a Dursley Pedersen with a white strip on the mudguard. There are lots of restored pre-1939 cars in the UK but very few in their wartime colours with blacked-out, or hooded, lamps and white edges to the extremities of their body work.
White mudguard edges are not a suitable agent for dating a cycle on their own.
However to err is human, to make a real mistake you need Windows 98.
Matthew techno luddite.

AGE / VALUE:   Absolutely Must See bicycles! posted by: Chris on 5/29/2003 at 5:06:23 PM
E- bay item @2177007984 Russia Antique bicycle bike

be sure to see the other bicycles also at auction and follow to see what these end up at.
Perhaps the nicest and most rare bikes I have yet seen on e- bay or anyplace else.
No kidding!
No relation to seller, not my auction, in fact this seller is so far out, ahead of my league it is not funny. This guy's collection is way , way advanced! However the one bike has these tires and I do have a set of those tires as I recognized the tread pattern.
Beautiful, large and well done photographs. I would love to see more information on the hub in the racing model.
Russia produced some magical bikes didn't she?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Absolutely Must See bicycles! posted by Chris on 5/29/2003 at 5:12:46 PM
Sorry, there is no @ symbol just type in: Russia Antique bicycle bike or the item# 2177007984

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Absolutely Must See bicycles! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/29/2003 at 7:39:34 PM
Wow.... serious stuff this fella has... awesome too. Be interesting to see where the prices go on these babies!

Thanks for bringing these to light... You're right... the PICTURES are even worth right-click and save fer sure'!



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Absolutely Must See bicycles! posted by sam on 5/30/2003 at 2:49:56 AM
That brake arm looks like an atherton arm,and the headbadge---can I read "sentinel"?Makes me wonder????

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Absolutely Must See bicycles! posted by Mike Patterson on 6/3/2003 at 11:22:58 PM
Excuse me for a cynic but if this is the guy with the french Clement for sale and the other mint bikes in Russia, I was kinda wondering which museum closed. BUT I am a cynic AND wish I could afford one of these bikes.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP posted by: ron on 5/29/2003 at 11:21:57 AM
I have an old roadster that refuses to stay in gear, I just replaced the sa gear chain that the gear cord connects to, I was told that the chain comes in different lengths,first gear is fine, second works for a couple turns then it pops out of gear then it catches again the same goes for 3rd, please if there is anyone who can help, I can barley ride the bike.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP posted by Robert on 5/29/2003 at 12:35:00 PM
Go to the site pasted here and follow the directions there.Even with the incorrect indicator chain you can should be able to get it shifting properly followomg Sheldom's method.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP posted by Robert on 5/29/2003 at 12:36:08 PM
Go to the site pasted here and follow the directions there. Look about halfway down the page to where it says 3-speed cable adjustment. Even with the incorrect indicator chain you can should be able to get it shifting properly followomg Sheldom's method.


   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 5/29/2003 at 4:31:14 PM
Listen to Robert's advice. However, I would get myself a new hub and either install the new innards or even a whole new hub gear in the rear wheel and be done with it.
I don't know your sources for Sturmey- Archer hubs in your area. How expensive would it be?
This would be a great excuse to move up to a four speed even.

The indicator chains come in different lengths because there were two different length axles.
C Get the one that's right for you.
Check out the used book store for bicycle repair books of yesterday that show with pictures how to adjust these. Sure, there are resources on the web but the old school books cannot be beaten. You could not be in better hands than with Sheldon Brown.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   HELP posted by Chris on 5/29/2003 at 4:41:21 PM
How old is this hub? When was the last time it was opened up and overhauled? Are there worn parts inside it? Pawls chipped, dogs worn? ball cups all wacky and worn?
is the grease 1966 vintage?
If the hub is an alloy shell version, than save that and replace the rest of the insides. If you are going to be dealing with Sheldon I would send him some money and buy some Sturmey- Archer cycle oil that he offers at Harris Cyclery.
If you really do end up needing a new hub Sheldon and his coworkers can help you there also.

MISC:   UPS vs Fed Ex shipping posted by: David on 5/29/2003 at 2:51:24 AM
I'm shipping a bike to Puerto Rico and UPS costs $142 while Fed Ex is only $69 for the same 2nd day air service. Pittsburgh-Boston is $24 vs $15 for truck service. Amazing! I signed right up for Fed Ex!

   RE:MISC: UPS vs Fed Ex shipping posted by P.C.Kohler on 5/29/2003 at 1:31:28 PM
Even better David, FedEx won't wreck the bike in the process!

P.C. Kohler, who thinks "brown" is, er, well... I best not say...

AGE / VALUE:   Royal Imperial posted by: dave on 5/28/2003 at 4:14:15 PM
This was a garage sale find ... Royal Imperial, mens frame, made in England, single speed coaster brake hub with the name Peters on the hub and the brake arm. Nice old headbadge, large chainguard with ornate decal with the name and two lions. Any one know about this brand? Lugs have oval cutouts. From the looks of it my guess would be late '40s to mid '50s

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   S/A 1950's taillight posted by: Brian on 5/28/2003 at 12:30:59 PM
Has anyone got a new, old stock taillight period correct for a mid-1950's Raleigh Sport? Yes, it's the taillight that is powered by the dynohub. It is the streamlined, grey body with a red lens. I have goodies for trade if you want to trade, or I have $ cash to send. Clear jpg's pics are essential (or mail pictures via post), so I can be sure of correct model & condition. Thank you.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hmmm.... Should I GRAB this one? posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/28/2003 at 12:32:15 AM
Came across a 1972 AMF Hercules today. Ladies frame, black and the wheels are immaculate. Some play in the bottom bracket bearing.. and while that's not too much of a problem, the cotters have already been somewhat mashed as someone must have been trying to get them out to adjust the bearings. I know that to get them out... while a bit of an issue, would not be too much trouble.... thing is, the threads are of course gone....

And there's the 8 other roadsters awaiting my attention......

Oh well... I may just snag it if nothing else... for the rims.



   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hmmm.... Should I GRAB this one? posted by Chris on 5/29/2003 at 5:16:17 PM
Yes, you should GRAB that one and as you do please do think of poor, sorry, old Chris who is not finding anything if interest at all these days.
Go ahead, laugh at me!
The bike is worth at least 50.00 so get it.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Hmmm.... Should I GRAB this one? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/29/2003 at 6:07:06 PM
DONE. Sorry to hear of yer dry spell... I won't go into the details of the pristine sports that I picked up on Saturday then....



AGE / VALUE:    posted by: Marko on 5/27/2003 at 11:32:09 PM
Speaking about a a vintage Raleigh Clubman for 35.00, I through together a three speed "racing" bike out of my old Motobecane Grand Jubilee. S/A hub, 27 in. wheels, brakes low on the bars, toe clips, and BOY I gotta say it's pretty darn cool! It's was all made of "stuff" that has been hanging around the shop since the seventies unused.I'm thinking of buying all the "stuff" new(S/A hub and hardwear, rims,new frame etc..... and building a "new" "Clubman". I think it is a great idea, and I wish someone still sold a bike like that.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: $35 Clubman? on 5/27/2003 at 11:32:09 PM
Speaking about a a vintage Raleigh Clubman for 35.00, I through together a three speed "racing" bike out of my old Motobecane Grand Jubilee. S/A hub, 27 in. wheels, brakes low on the bars, toe clips, and BOY I gotta say it's pretty darn cool! It's was all made of "stuff" that has been hanging around the shop since the seventies unused.I'm thinking of buying all the "stuff" new(S/A hub and hardwear, rims,new frame etc..... and building a "new" "Clubman". I think it is a great idea, and I wish someone still sold a bike like that.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by steve on 5/28/2003 at 3:15:26 PM
This disease hit me about 2 years ago. Now I have 4 "replica club" bikes, with various frames, hubs, gearing, fittings, and purposes. The only problem now is managing to ride them all as often as I want! If you have a use or route that doesn't require the more subtle gradations of gearing possible with a derailleur, the internal-geared lightweight is sheer ecstasy.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Marko on 5/28/2003 at 4:20:54 PM
"Disease" is a good term for it, because I am seriously concidering cutting off the deraileur tang, adding mudguards and never looking back as far as putting all the 15 speed fittings back on this Grand Jubilee. It was a good but run of the mill touring bike that I never used. Now it is something special, even if the young urban professionals would turn their noses up at having only three speeds when you can actually have thirty now if you are so inclined. FOOIE!
I really do wish one could buy a bike like this.
Sorry for the "off topic" banter by-the-way, but I know you roadster heads are interested.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Ward Davis on 5/29/2003 at 1:26:48 AM
I have a similar bike. It's a 1951 Lenton Sports frame that a friend sold to me.Light allot Sun rims fitted with a sturmey 3 speed hub,27" narrow tyres,Brooks B15 saddle,center pull brakes(wienmann)and I reversed the North Road bars. This is a GREAT bike to ride!!! The reversed bars are a nice comfortable change from drop bars for this "old man"(49).I would love to have all origional parts but I think this is more comfortable to ride.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by P.C. Kohler on 5/29/2003 at 8:53:08 PM
After a month of riding my '49 Clubman, I must admit I am tempted to sell off all my other machines and collect nothing but Club bikes!!

Just the most fun I've ever had riding a bike. Ever. These things are incredibly light, nimble and fast as heck. Amazing comfortable and even at 6' 2" I find the 22" frame ideal in size. Wonderful Maes bend alloy handlebars and those sexy Dunlop alloy Westrick rims. Grand fun to take her out on the spandex circuits around here and show the youngsters what 54-year-old British iron can do.

Anyone else out there have a Clubman with an AM hub? These are WONDERFUL medium ratio gears with instant gear changing (no need to ease off the pedal when changing) and another proof of the absolute superiority of hub gears over derailleurs. They have a delightful slow "tick" sound.

Now if we could just find a barnful of NOS Britannialloy cream celluloid mudguards!

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by steve on 5/30/2003 at 7:52:31 PM
I find the AM (which I have mounted on a Fuji S12 frame) to be something of a paradox: Very limited because of the narrow gear ratio, but within that limitation perhaps the most enjoyable of all. The Fuji/AM has a very close relationship with the Ford pickup, because if I were to ride it down off the top of the ridge where I live I'd never be able to get back up again except by walking. But. . .once down on the ex-RR-grade trail, it just wants to be ridden forever.
Of all the Sturmey hubs I've used (AW, S5-1&2), FW, and AM), the AM seems to be the most efficient. It's the only one in which I can't detect the difference in internal friction compared to a derailleur hub - although that might simply reflect the fact that I never climb hills with it.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by P.C. Kohler on 5/30/2003 at 11:05:31 PM
Interesting, Steve... I found the same thing. I do a lot of riding on the old Georgetown Branch of the B&O trail from Georgetown DC to Bethesda MD and it's all uphill in one direct but as any railway line, gentle. The AM is unbeatable and I seldom take it out of 3rd gear coming or going. As for hill climbing, it works well enough unless it's a sodding mountain. And for road racing, well.... today I raced a chap on a some flaming red, 12-gear Klein what's it... when he finally was able to pass me after more than two miles (uphill) he said "Shit, it's 'just' a three-speed!" "No, she's a 54 year old Raleigh Clubman!"

When I finally get my 1948 Clubman from England, she has a FM hub so it will be interesting to compare.


AGE / VALUE:+AKAAoACg-Brother, Do you have any old bikes? posted by: Chris on 5/27/2003 at 2:37:15 PM
The sign said: Sale. The fellow let me look in the barn, and yes, there were bikes!
What was going to be in the old, magical place? Old Schwinns? A old Vespa scooter? Something with rod brakes and 28 inch wheels with faded, weathered enclosed chainguards? Perhaps a motorcycle?
leather seats? Perhaps a vintage Raleigh Clubman for 35.00 and not for no $400.00 cuz this ain't e- bay!

Well the experience of the place and the grizzled old packrat letting me into the place was the best part of it.
A Raleigh Sprite in coffee brown for parts, a J.C. Higgans and a Columbia tandem or a two seater as he called it. I picked up the Raleigh! I already have a Higgans and I hate it!
More red Raleigh R nuts, a long seat post, the tall top nut that fits the Raleigh Choppers. A set of cotter pins and the R nuts off those, a Pletcher rack, new Union Germany made Raleigh pedals that also fit the Chopper. New bottombracket parts (both cups) the spindle and the lock- ring all undamaged and new condition wise.
The G.B. handlebar and stem, 1970's and alloy. I saved the cranks and those evil cotter pins poped right out in the bench vise and I can even re- use the threads which is rare for a 1970's bike. These cotter pins almost always are ruined in removing them. I had to drill out a set of cotter pins this weekend and I ruined the cranks in the process, but I have spares.
Took two drill bits as the one lost it's effectiveness.
Headset parts, all new! The bike was unridden. The decals were all marred. strange! The dude was not going to let me spend time in there and root around but a quick scan did not reveal anything else of interest. I didn't get klonked on the head or bitten by anything and best of all, I did not over pay! Another old farmer at another place was asking everybody if they were saved and: "Do you know that you're a sinner?"
Sinner? Well? I do know that they didn't have anything good there and I didn't want to spend any more anyways. I'm looking for bikes and about to go eat and I'm enjoying the day and worrying/thinking about this and that and I want to have fun and live and meet interesting people and joke and laugh and have wild, mystical adventures and he's asking everybody with this feverish attitude. "Do you know if you're saved? Warnings about impending Hell kinda ruin the antique hunting mood! He came up and asked with urgence and he had these big, bony hands, a strong, old farmer with a love for people and concern for their eternal destination. I didn't dare tell him that I feel that life is the tall frosty glass of Root Beer on a sunny day and that I want to enjoy the whole huge glass and then another before it's too late and that I don't want to drink it alone either. Also, that sometimes I wish I wasn't so straightlaced and that the last thing I want to hear in the midst of a fierce mid- life, whatever- funk is:
Are you Saved?
I do not feel that I have lived and experienced like every day is the last. To work, to play, to live and to love. Yes.
Oh, it was a great day out in the country!
The bike selling fellow, not the farmer was asking 35.00 but I held up the 20.00 and he was not to thrilled and he said in a weak disinterested/ disappointed tone: $20.00 eah?
Until his eyes hit that bill! People! Always, always hold up the bill in your hand! He snatched the bill out of my hand and I shook his other hand and it was a done deal. I was going to pass on it but I still have a weakness for Sprites as I love to rip them apart. The bike has a sticker and I remember this shop and how they took pride in assembling everything meticously with this stinky, smelly, awful grease that does not solidify. Smelling that peculiar grease brought back memories and can picture those two brothers. It was like the bike was just overhauled but it has been sitting and that shop is long since gone. This could have been a rod brake D.L.1. Tourist because that's about all they sold as the specialized in them.
Awful front hub of non Raleigh origin. I saved the Huret derailer and plastic disc. The brass badge will be removed but that is a pain in the butt to do. Awful seat, not leather.

AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by: Jeff on 5/25/2003 at 11:14:52 AM
Not mine but pretty cool. Anybody know what it is? I think the opening bid is a tad high...

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Jeff on 5/25/2003 at 11:18:09 AM
Here's the auction URL:

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Warren on 5/25/2003 at 12:36:39 PM
Ha! A tad high eh...it looks chrome and clean...honestly I'd have to think hard about $75.

I guess this is what fishing is all about...

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by David on 5/25/2003 at 2:10:27 PM
That's not chrome, that's solid sterling silver! At least, the "lucky bidder" won't have to worry about matching paint for the missing chainguard, just get one plated!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Sage on 5/26/2003 at 6:48:50 PM
It's easy to scoff that which you do not understand

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Warren on 5/26/2003 at 7:34:50 PM
Ahhh, wise, sage, grasshopper. Please enlighten us as to the true intrinsic value of this rare bike, for we do not understand.We mistook the object for a 3 speed Roadster in the English style and therefore assumed it was of common stock.

Forgive us and we await your wisdom.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Warren on 5/26/2003 at 9:47:10 PM
Wait a minute...that fork crown looks vaguely familiar...tubular in construction...hey it's a Raleigh! Rebranded for Polaris!

OK, it's a Raleigh and it's chromed and it's in good shape. On the other hand it's missing a chainguard, it's got a mattress saddle and looks like a 70's Sports model. Looks like a twist grip too... that might date it to late 60's.

Polaris has no pedigree as far as I'm concerned. It's uniqueness works against any collectibility. It's a good bike to ride. Now if the owner produced a signed paper proving it was last ridden by the Queen of Sheba then maybe...nahhh

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Edward in Vancouver on 5/27/2003 at 1:26:29 PM
Yeah, the front forks look like Raleigh, would love to see the rear drop outs, then we'd know for sure. However I saw alot of "Polaris" stamped on the bike, like on the Vinyl seat,and the steer tube. So maybe this was a one off, a prototype, a sample? However for $150.00 the bike must go pretty fast in the snow....

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Neat bike on eBay posted by Dewane on 5/30/2003 at 1:41:26 AM
Polaris is a multi-faceted company. They even make motorcycles, under the Victory brand. And Victory is nothing like any other motorcycle I've seen. But this, from the stem to the seat, looks like a rebadged Raleigh. Interesting.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Beautiful ladies' Superbe on ebay posted by: David on 5/25/2003 at 12:03:12 AM
Kinda $$$ (NMA) But it has an FG, chaincase, keys, etc. Note the rear fender has no white panel and this appears to be a 1955, as the seller claims.


AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh his/hers bikes posted by: scott burdick on 5/24/2003 at 6:31:58 PM
We are in possession of a his and hers Raleigh 3-spped bikes. The date code on the hub is 4 74 (Sturmey-Archer hub).
They are brown and have the original parts and the original saddle bags attached to the seat. Bikes are in great condition. Anyone have a clue on wether Raleigh bikes hold their value well?