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Archived: English Roadsters

AGE / VALUE:    Dumb! posted by: Chris on 7/17/2003 at 5:59:38 PM
Instead of finding a bicycle mechanic the hardware store decides to pack it in. This leaves the whole town without a bicycle shop. This is very stupid and short sighted in my opinion. They said they could not find one!
I have other commitments too, or else I'd do it.

MISC:   BROOKES SADDLES AND PANNIERS posted by: Ian on 7/17/2003 at 9:16:30 AM
An earlier post mentions panniers available from Brookes. Can anybody tell me a website where pictures of their range of saddles, panniers etc can be viewed or for that matter any other brand of panniers, toolbags and the large travel bags that fitted on the back of seats. It would be nice to get some ideas of what is available. Thanks, Ian.

   RE:MISC:   BROOKES SADDLES AND PANNIERS posted by Dewane on 7/17/2003 at 7:12:03 PM
Hi Ian, Wallingford is a good place to start. The guy is in New Orleans, I believe.


   RE:RE:MISC:   BROOKES SADDLES AND PANNIERS posted by Ian on 7/18/2003 at 10:28:24 AM
That has to be one of the best designed and presented cycle shop web pages ever. A great resource and obviously a knowledgeable supplier. Thanks, Ian.

FOR SALE:   2 Raleigh Sports from 1950s posted by: Jim Banks on 7/17/2003 at 3:30:54 AM
I occasionally check the Old English bikes list, looking for someone who will appreciate my bicycles. I have two old Raleigh bicycles, one boy's, one girl's. They both say Raleigh Sports on the bar between the seat post and the handle bars. Each one has a front wheel dynamo. The boy's bike is dark red. The girl's bike is dark blue. Their wheels, including tires, measure approximately 26". The rear hub of the boy's bike is somewhat difficult to read but I believe it says 11/55. The girl's bike says 12/57. They are in generally good shape and mostly original. I would like to see them go to somebody who appreciates them. I am in Southern California. Please email me at jim@bankslaw.net if you know of someone who will appreciate them and pick them up.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Nice wartime Humber posted by: Warren on 7/17/2003 at 12:40:36 AM
Here's another of those roadsters with 26 inch wheels


It's rough but the buy-it-now isn't outrageous

AGE / VALUE:   hercules with cool headbadge posted by: sam on 7/16/2003 at 6:53:51 PM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   hercules with cool headbadge posted by Matthew on 7/16/2003 at 9:37:50 PM
Never seen one like this in the UK. All Uk Hercs are just that without the King label or the Lion on the head badge. I've got a 1930's Herc with a different head badge altogether. But the seller says it is Hercules of Birmingham so you see something new everday. Matthew, suprised and running

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   hercules with cool headbadge posted by Brian on 7/16/2003 at 10:36:59 PM
What's up with that head/seat tube angle? To say that bike's geometry is laid back would be an understatement!

   and check out the rear of that chainguard posted by sam on 7/17/2003 at 3:23:37 AM

   RE:and check out the rear of that chainguard posted by Brian on 7/17/2003 at 9:30:55 PM
I'm a sucker for those nice cut-out chainwheels, the fenders might be an alloy material? The pedals are garbage..someone knocked out the reflectors - when I see non-rebuildable reflector pedals, I run for the hills. The seat..well, jettison it too for a leather Brooks. That seat tube angle is really l-a-i-d b-a-c-k.

AGE / VALUE:   J C HIGGINS posted by: bobby babbitt on 7/16/2003 at 3:01:13 PM
i recently acquired this Beautifull LADIES bike, Rescued from the back of a local bike shop, "Sitting outside" for only who knows how long...
i posted it here because, it "looks" very much like a old Raleigh style, it is "ALL BLACK W/ WHITE @ the bottom of the REAR FENDER". The REAR HUB does not say Sturmey Archer, BUT has "36-13" stamped on it. The Serial # 1795402, just above the serial # are "another set of numbers" that are "upside-down" 503 404U ?
can anyone HELP me date this bike ?
It also has an Old Sticker from the bike shop it came from, "SALEM SCHWINN" 7th street, Phoenix Arizona, NO LONGER IN BUSINESS...
THANKS ! bobby babbitt (602) 505-0007 mr.mexico@cox.net

AGE / VALUE:   rear carrier posted by: paul viner on 7/15/2003 at 9:41:51 AM
i have just finished restoring my 1973 sports and feel that it needs some sort of rear carrier with panniers possibly,was ther ever a RALEIGH approved model or one that was very common at that time?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   rear carrier posted by Tim on 7/16/2003 at 12:10:30 PM
Carriers were usually made of tubular steel, painted black with a spring clip at the rear. Early ones were just a grid. You can still get them from the Indian manufacturers but the paint job is poor. Panniers you can get from Brooks Saddles. They are made of leather with brass locks and furnishings. They cost a fortune though. I have made some quite authentic looking panniers from Army Surplus 'Big Packs'. There must be an American equivalent. They are usually made of a close woven cotton webbing type material and you can dye them any colour you like. The British ones have brass buckles and a good strap fixing on the back. They hold a terrific amount of kit. Hope this may help.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   rear carrier posted by David on 7/16/2003 at 8:05:43 PM
My mid-70s Raleigh catalog has a picture of accessories they offered. It includes what look very much like the pressure-cast aluminum Pletscher racks (which is what I have on my bikes. Anyway, the English always liked Switzerland!)

AGE / VALUE:   headlights posted by: Smitty on 7/15/2003 at 3:03:07 AM
How come ebay item 2182360151 blk headlight went for over 60$ and item # 2183084692 could not get 30$ I did not bid I figured it would go high like the blk one. Will both of tese lights work on a 6volt dynohub. Was there something odd about the one
Thanks for any help

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   headlights posted by Ed on 7/17/2003 at 1:23:51 PM
I believe that either light would work with any dyno or generator as long the correct bulb is used and a good ground is achieved. I have no idea why there is so much disparity between the prices offered ror identical items on E-bay.In my opinion $62.00 is a little strong for that light. The fixture which attaches the light to the heron bracket is becoming very rare. I remember times when I would have paid $ 30.00 for that part alone to complete a project.Maybe the seller will re-list this item and you'll get another shot at it. I won't be bidding against you,don't need any lights are brackets at this time. Good Luck.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   dunelt posted by: Linda on 7/15/2003 at 2:07:55 AM
My friend found an old bike that says made in England. It also has the name Dunelt on 2 metal plates on both the front fender and rear. I really don't know much about bikes and am just inquiring about it. Any information would be much appreciated. Thank you. Linda

FOR SALE:   Update posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 7/14/2003 at 6:42:57 PM
We've added more cycles to our "Bikes For Sale" page (the link is at the top of this page). Plus we've posted a Maserati road bike on Ebay (item number: 2183831270)

Keep Riding.
Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   NMA: "Sports" Transfers posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 7/14/2003 at 12:23:00 PM
Well, I've paid less for entire BIKES... but, here's a set of transfers for a late-50's 60' Sports




AGE / VALUE:   Huh?!?!?! These are nice.. but $700? posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 7/14/2003 at 2:08:06 AM
NMA. Maybe I'm a little confused here.... these bikes... are they SOLID silver maybe?


Well, heck. If the seller can get $700 for a matched pair of late 70's Sports, I just may sell all of mine and RETIRE.

No offence if the seller is lurking here. More power to ya!



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huh?!?!?! These are nice.. but $700? posted by Drew on 7/14/2003 at 10:22:10 AM
He won't get that, it''s just merchandising, to make some thing they're worth maybe good money. My bet is these will be bid up to $234. But strange things can happen...a pair of '64 Stingrays went for $5500 two years ago! thats fifty five hundred!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huh?!?!?! These are nice.. but $700? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 7/14/2003 at 12:26:52 PM
Oh, I'm quite sure. Especially from me anyhow. But, you never know. Funny thing... I paid all of 5 bucks for a ladies Sports in silver identical to one pictured.

If he sells them for that much, I'm gonna HIRE him to sell mine! ('_^)



   RE:AGE / VALUE: Huh?!?!?! These are nice.. but $700? posted by Matt Harter on 7/17/2003 at 3:52:01 AM
He needs to pump up those tires to get $700, inflated prices demand inflated tires!

MISC:   Talk about bent forks! posted by: Warren on 7/13/2003 at 1:45:09 PM
Check this out...


This CCM Flyte was made only between 1936 and 1939. Many didn't have the curved fork and many of those forks haven't survived, for obvious reasons.

I think this will get a decent price... for a canadian bike.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Here's one. With ODD "child seat" posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 7/13/2003 at 4:47:23 AM
Obviously, NMA, but this would be an example of an "Indian Roadster" I would presume. I'm sure glad that I was never required to ride on a child seat of such nature!




   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Here's one. With ODD posted by Frank in Boise on 7/14/2003 at 7:24:21 PM

This type of setup is commonly used as the "family car" in southern India. In fact, bikes such as the one which you see for sale is are very often employed as 4-seaters:
dad peddling, older child on the seat on the crossbar, mom sitting on the rear rack, mom holding infant.
I think I see the footrest below the rack. You'll also notice a padded cover on the cross bar - this can serve as a seat when no other is installed. I can't quite make it out on my monitor, but presumably the script on the padded cover is in Kannada, the language of Bangalore, where the seller says he obtained the bike.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Here's one. With ODD posted by Matthew on 7/15/2003 at 6:42:03 PM
Hey this type of crossbar seat is not uncommon in the UK it keeps a child close to you and gives them a great view. My Dad and I travelled miles on such a set up upon his Triumph roadster in the 1960's. Then when my children were small in the 1980's we had a similar seat on my Marlboro Roadster and then on my Falcon ATB but I has a rear seat too, made by the Midland Spring Co. Birmingham, England. So we often rode out with three on board, never a missed beat and legs like tree trunks. My youngest daughter is quite tiny and I was still taking her to school on the bicycle, front seat up until 2002. There are foot rests for the front passenger, or at least there are on the seat we have.
Just for a giggle one day my high school daughter and I rode home from school on my ATB with the front seat set up. I could hardly see around her, a slim but not short 12 year old, and her knees were almost in her mouth, but we raced and beat a couple of 16 year old tearaways! Real fun.
Matthew, showing signs of age without maturity.

AGE / VALUE:   EA-1 tires posted by: Smitty on 7/13/2003 at 3:57:37 AM
Are the Cheng Shin 26x1 1/4 tires as good as it gets for EA-1 rims and I heard these are out of production.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   EA-1 tires posted by Warren on 7/13/2003 at 12:55:26 PM
I think the best "club" style tyres you can get are by Schwalbe. They can be ordered from St. John St Cycles in England.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   EA-1 tires posted by smitty on 7/14/2003 at 3:14:24 AM
Great web store
Thanks for the info.