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Archived: English Roadsters

AGE / VALUE:Schwinn wheel with SA Alloy hub posted by: marc on 2/22/2004 at 2:24:47 AM
anyone care to guess on the value of a schwinn 26 3/4 wheel with an alloy sturmey 3 speed hub stamped 1954? I've heard that these alloy hubs are rare but not sure. thanks.

AGE / VALUE:Schwinn wheel with SA Alloy hub posted by: marc on 2/22/2004 at 2:24:47 AM
anyone care to guess on the value of a schwinn 26 3/4 wheel with an alloy sturmey 3 speed hub stamped 1954? I've heard that these alloy hubs are rare but not sure. thanks.

AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by: roxy on 2/18/2004 at 5:45:36 AM
I finally have my Dawes Echelon bike totally dialed in.A friend gave it to me(It belonged to her former boyfriend I think)and I spent about 250.- on a tuneup including new tires sear and seatpost headset and brakepads.It is now a great riding bike.It has a reynolds frame and about 30 years ago when I was in a bike club and riding every day this would have been a bike I would have wanted.
A lot of time went by and I'm not familiar with the new bikes.My dawes weighs about 24 pounds US and I wonder how much lighter the modern racing bikes are.
I really don't need the lightest bike anyway since I am about 20 pounds overweight right now and I'd rather loose a few pounds around my belly instead of getting a lighter bike.But just out of curiosity.How light is a decent racing bike nowadays?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/18/2004 at 10:36:08 AM
Well, from what the techno-veloheads at work tell me, they run in the 18lbs range. Some, even less....

To your point, and I kid them incessantly about it, in part I ride for the excersize.... and so do they. So, when I ride my 40lbs. DL-1, I get 2 - 3 times more excersize per mile than they do!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by sam on 2/18/2004 at 2:02:50 PM
I had a vintage bike over at a bike shop a while back--the modern roadies were also interested in it's weight.They invited me to pick up a certin new(used) bike--lite as a feather!They laughed! It was "old" to them--the new stuff they said is a lot lighter.Then the bike shop owner came over and joined in.And sence we were all good friends of his--he was able to talk freely. Turns out the price paid for that weight savings comes if life span of a frame.A small ding in a modern frame can cause it to collapse--small dings in a vintage steel frame only hurts the owner feeling.This is not to say that a steel frame does not have it's limits--sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by Edward in Vancouver on 2/19/2004 at 1:06:56 AM
Hey, Larry: My Superbe with 26"wheels, FG hub, battery unit (incl. 3 fat"d"cells) and chaincase weigh over 48 lbs. Allright now, whose bike is the heaviest?

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/19/2004 at 2:55:42 AM
LOL! Now there's a thought! To be honest, I've not weighed the DL-1 as of yet. I'm thinking that the hairpin seat had to add at least a pound! I guess I will have to weigh it.

So, is that the challenge to the group? Who has the HEAVIEST? Now THAT'S novel! Hmmm.... I wonder if I can get a cast-iron luggage rack for mine.....

As to the "life span" issue, I would agree. When I used to fly control line precision aerobatic models, obviously we were all quite obsessed with building the lightest aircraft possible. Well, through my observations, I noticed that the "balsa cloud" airplanes, while very light and insanely maneuverable, only lasted one season before the airframes started to literally "shake apart" from engine vibration. Not a long life considering the countless hours required to build one. But... if you wanted to place well at the National level, that's what you flew.

So, to spend insane amounts of money for something light? Well, I suppose if that's your preference. Thing is, our Roadsters for the most part have been around 20 years at LEAST... and probably will still BE around for considerably longer. Fast forward 20 years and see which would be in better condition (presuming equivalent use of course)?


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by paul viner on 2/19/2004 at 9:49:15 AM
all this talk about the weights of bikes reminds me that when i was racing back about 20 years,this one guy would obsess about it to the point of drilling crank arms,chainrings,headstems,then my coach turned around and said that for the few ounces that he was chasing he could afford to lose about 15 pounds.it made me laugh and think so could i.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by Mark R. on 2/19/2004 at 1:18:29 PM
My friend has a modern Trek bicycle that weighs only 17 lbs.even though it is a 16 speed roadracer(maybe 10 usable gears!). It has carbon fibre SPOKES. Only eight or so at that! The shift levers are built into the brake levers, and the saddle is aboutt he size of a half-eaten Poptart. The frame is made of aluminum, and carbon fibre. It really is something to behold, but it cost some ridiculous sum that you'd never believe($2500+) My Austro-Daimler on the other hand has a Reynolds 531 frame, Dura-ace components, and a Brooks Professional saddle, and I only paid $70 for it at a FLEA MARKET!!!(It was just exactly my size too, I was very happy:-)Personally, I'm sick of the modern bikes even if they are wonderful. When I was a kid we used to save up pocket change all Winter to buy silk tubulars in the Spring, and we usually had enough to buy two or three sets. Now if you save up pocket change(a factory workers pocket change mind you, not one of you blood sucking lawyers) you'd be luck to get ONE tyre! You have to spend $60 to get a pair of handlebars. My A/D powers along down the road just as well as my buddys Trek too, figure that out.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by Wayne on 2/19/2004 at 3:52:12 PM
I just got through reading Lance's latest book.(That alone could lead to several new discussions, but never mind). At one point he mentions the weight loss he went through from the chemo. He said he lost 20 pounds in total, and that this made a difference on an average stage of 30 seconds. If you follow this to its logical conclusion then trimming 1 pound off of the weight of the bike means you would save 1.5 seconds on a racing stage. Is that really noticeable in the REAL world?
What I am really trying to say here is that for the real world common sense has to be a part of this. Are you REALLY going to see a difference on a bike that is 1 or 2 pounds lighter? I don't think so.
I have several bikes in different weight ranges that I ride, and I find seating position, gearing, rolling resistance, mechanical differences etc. to be much more significant than weight.
Changing tires to something with less rolling resistance has been the best general mod I have found to make to a bike.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight posted by P.C. Kohler on 2/19/2004 at 4:33:51 PM
A discussion about weight in the English Roadster site seems superfluous to me. I thought we all worshipped Heavy Metal!!

My DL-1 has a dyno-three, dbu, full gearcase and a Brooks triple-coil Brooks 33 saddle. If she weighs an ounce less than 53 pounds, I'll pay it in gold. I'd like to see Lance ride this!!

Frankly, all this mania for lightness is a bit of a nonsense really. I mean what Lance uses is of no relationship at all to what most folks ride or need. My Clubmans, with Reynolds 531 everything, alloy bars but steel cranks, chainset and wheels weighs about 28-29 lbs with a four-speed hub and that's light enough for me. And she can still hold her own against the 20 lb wonders. Some of these bikes when ridden hard even look unstable to me.

Wayne is so right about tyres... this is a major factor. Roadster tyres weigh a TON and have enormous rolling resistance. Ditto wheels. Westwood rims, still the strongest going, just weigh a lot. The classic British approach was to keep the strength and low cost of steel and combine it with clever design and good tyres, hence the ageless Dunlop HP (high pressure) rims with the special HP tyres that went with them. Almost as light as anything made of alloy and amazingly light for clincher tyres.

By the way, the British were certainly capable of making light bicycles. The Rudge-Whitworth Aero-Olympic of 1938 weighed 21 lbs. with a single gear. That's pretty impressive even today.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight--Larry posted by sam on 2/20/2004 at 3:42:31 PM
Boneman,maybe I can find you a set of Milk Can racks for that DL-1.They hold a 5 gal milk can on each side,so you can deliver door to door!---sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Bicycle weight--Larry posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/21/2004 at 12:26:06 PM
Yeah! At about 8lbs./gallon, that would be 40lbs. EACH! Of course, if I were to fill them with SAND....

Imagine the speed one could achieve on a long downhill!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   Bicycle weight-hey sam posted by rif on 2/21/2004 at 4:48:34 PM
This is not the same at all but...
You want to talk about excersise in reference to bike weight?
Try pedaling a 90 pound 1905 Mead roadster with a Whizzer engineover the Sierra Nevada mountains and over paryt of the rocky mountains!
The engine couldn't breathe at those altitudes and wouldn't run so it was all up to me.
Sierras I pedaled to a peak elevation of 8, 900 FT.
Rockies the elevation was 9,500 FT.
(above sea level)
Talk about some excercise, no?
Sorry folks but I couldn't resist; I was just having some fun with ya'

WANTED:decals posted by: DALE on 2/18/2004 at 1:19:57 AM
i have a schwinn deluxe racer mens bicycle, looking for the red,white & blue band decals that go on top bar, also the decal that goes on the seat post, it has the red,white & blue band with a top hat on it. thanks for any info.

   RE:WANTED:decals posted by sam on 2/18/2004 at 1:45:39 PM
The top hat decal does show up on ebay from time to time.But I don't know anyone that rrpops them ,try memory lane--phone 419-832-3040

   RE:RE:WANTED:decals posted by Chris on 2/18/2004 at 7:03:36 PM
It's cool that folks restore the Schwinn Racer. When I see them and turn up my nose at them, when I see the fenders lying in wrappings on the basement floor in the old shops. I remember the folks who restore and love this bike.
Sure it ain't what I'm after, I kinda have a less than stellar attitude to some of these and the Racer fits in there, but I do have a kind of respect for it anyways because it is somebody's elses thing and I kinda put myself in their shoes.

Still, I would not bother with this particular model Schwinn. The top hat is way cool but the rest of the bike does not call to me.

No matter, whatever bike you find worthy, go ahead and go for it. I've taking a liking to bikes that others think I'm crazy to hop up and ride and yes even to restore.
I had a lady eavsdrop on a conversation of
mine and all the hassle and tracking it down and she commented after how totally cool it was what I was doing and she wanted to see the bike when I got it in.

MISC:Biltmore as a raliegh rebadge? posted by: Beth on 2/17/2004 at 4:27:02 AM
Hi all,
I have a question on ebay item # 2225890076. It's billed as a "Biltmore" brand bike, and I can't find that name on any of the boards. But looking at the pictures closely, esp. the front shot it looks like a Raleigh Sports fork, and the fenders seem to match. I can't get enough view of the drop outs to tell anything. And the chain guard is wrong. Any ideas?

   RE:MISC:���Biltmore as a raliegh rebadge? posted by Warren on 2/17/2004 at 4:59:41 AM
Not a Raleigh. The rear mudguard bosses are above the axle as opposed to behind it. This is an infallible way of identifying Raleighs.

   RE:MISC:Biltmore as a raliegh rebadge? posted by Joe on 2/17/2004 at 7:58:58 AM
Could be something along the lines of a Royal Enfield? I bought a pile of old stock from an old dealer last year and among the pile of parts were several nos Royal Enfield/Raleigh tubular crown look-a-like forks stamped "Made in Taiwan" with the Royal Enfield name on the steer tube. They were all chrome and very rough looking. I assumed they were factory replacements for Royal Enfield bikes that they sold years ago.

AGE / VALUE:Randor posted by: Ned on 2/14/2004 at 5:10:09 PM
Again question remains....Have a "randor" three speed.Shimano hub side pulls fenders etc.Any info on this marque would be much appreciated,
Thanks Ned

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Randor posted by John on 2/15/2004 at 3:00:55 PM
As I recall those were bicycles of basic quality when fitted with derailleurs. Yours is probably a bit better because it has a Shimano three speed hub for its gearing. That hub is probably the best part of the bicycle. If you haven't already, have it thoroughly checked over before putting it in service. All the Rampars that I have seen had brakes that worked poorly even when adjusted as close to perfect as possible. The brakes, in pariculer, deserve a close inspection and testing before the bicycle is used. Also the front hub bearing assembly should be checked carefully for smooth operation, that all the parts are in good condition, and bearings lubricated before use. That Sachs Huret odometer is a very well made odometer. I only saw these bicycles because I had to repair them in the bicycle shop where I worked. I have no idea about their heritage other than, as you already know, they were made in Taiwan. They were, I think, produced from about the mid 1970's to the mid 1980's. In quality they were quite a bit below any British bicycle that I have ever seen, but when maintained properly they were useable.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Randor posted by John on 2/15/2004 at 3:05:24 PM
Sorry, I said Rampar when I meant Randor. Correcting but not retracting that mistake though. I never saw a Rampar with good brakes either.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Randor posted by robert wells on 4/4/2006 at 12:43:42 AM
hi i have a randor par exceccence bike so my bike said by the name on it.i bought the bike in very poor shap and i fixed most of of my bike and i need a fram. so could you send me one or tell me ware to buy one. thank you robert

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by: Tim on 2/12/2004 at 2:04:20 PM
Just once in a while you see something like this. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2223680012&category=10957

A Rudge, albeit tatty for less than a fiver. Well done that man.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/12/2004 at 11:44:54 PM
Wow. A most interesting find for sure. And I appreciate the to-the-point description!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by Matthew on 2/13/2004 at 6:22:31 PM
The 1 Rudge is a Humber.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by Edward in Vancouver on 2/14/2004 at 2:53:33 AM
That's telling it like it is! That GH6, though...It looks very large, wonder how old that bike really is...

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by David on 2/14/2004 at 12:35:32 PM
Looks like the ordinary GH6 to me...

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by Tim on 2/14/2004 at 11:16:35 PM
You are right Mathew it is a Humber. I was mixing it up with anoher one I was watching , a Rudge that went for 6. There was a Ladies Raleigh that went for 22 as well. Lots of bargains in the UK this weekend it seems.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Fortune smiles posted by Matthew on 2/15/2004 at 2:13:14 PM
That's us bargains all around. For years I've been saying that we throw away cycles in th UK that you guys would love to buy and now at last eBay gives you a chance to at least see if not buy a few of them. I have no worries with good bikes going to good homes where ever they are.

have a good ride on a pleasant Sunday,

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Raleigh Fork Lock Cylinder Removal posted by: S. Ringlee on 2/12/2004 at 4:09:05 AM
My Raleigh with front fork lock is missing its key. How do I remove the cylinder to have this re-keyed? There is a fixing screw up inside the fork, but I can pull the assembly out only about 1/8 inch even after loosening this. Any tricks?
BTW: anybody got key blanks for an NGN 33 cylinder?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh Fork Lock Cylinder Removal posted by jack on 2/12/2004 at 5:53:37 AM
A few mos ago my Raleigh Superbe also came without a key for the front fork. Similarly, removing the screw did not allow the mechanism to be removed. Since I had bike apart for reconditioning anyway, I took the forks to a locksmith and he made a pair of keys for twenty bucks. Key blank cut is "ilco LF5".

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh Fork Lock Cylinder Removal posted by Clyde on 2/12/2004 at 12:53:10 PM
A locksmith can cut new keys from that NGN key code.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Raleigh Fork Lock Cylinder Removal posted by Edward in Vancouver on 2/14/2004 at 2:36:54 AM
You can't remove the lock without the key. To remove the whole lock assembly, remove the right side Raleigh "dimple" and remove the screw holding the lock assembly in to the fork. Then turn the lock with the key so the aluminum shaft is fully exposed. With a pair of pliars, twist the aluminum post, then pull out, now the whole assembly will fall out. There are exploded views of the lock on this site so you can get a better idea how the aluminum post fits into the lock body. If you damage the chrome "Dimple" when you remove it, there is a method to extract a "Dimple" from a junker set of forks: Roast the forks in an oven at a low temp, say around 200F for about 20 mins, then drop an ice cube into the dimple. With a putty knife or the like, pry out the dimple. *This method doesn't always work, some dimples are just a fraction larger than others. I guess as these were decorative items, they were not machined to any real tolerances, but just pounded in with a rubber hammer at the factory.

The locking fork is a nice touch, but in reality about as usefull as an $80.00 car alarm. Of course they are fantastic when the bike is in a workstand and it keeps the front wheel from flopping around....

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh Fork Lock Cylinder Removal posted by jack on 2/16/2004 at 5:45:08 AM
Thanks for the tip on how to remove fork lock Edward. Once the locksmith had made the keys I no longer had a need to remove lock from fork. Also, I agree that the cool factor is probably greater then theft deterence factor.

MISC:Raleigh, Rudge and Humber exploded diagrams posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 2/11/2004 at 12:22:49 PM
4 years ago a valued participant here sent us some great Brit cycle diagrams. At the time, only our hand scanner was working, so we only put a few diagrams on our site. Then we purchased a new flatbed scanner and completely forgot about these diagrams until they were rediscovered this past weekend.

They are under our General Resources section.
Here is a direct link:


Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.

AGE / VALUE: posted by: James on 2/11/2004 at 8:22:48 AM
John Vernooy added a new section to his webpage with links to manufacturers of gear hub bikes and the few bike shops that sell them. Some of the links I found, after much time with trying to use dutch and danish search engines.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:A little help...? posted by: Rif on 2/11/2004 at 2:02:08 AM
Hey all,
I came across the coolest bike at my L.B.S. last friday. Today I went back to look at it and the owner let me take it for a ride.
I'm hooked, never have I ridden such a smootyh goin' easy action biike!
So what is it?
I don't know, it has 28" tires, lugged frame, coaster brake, front rod brake, little poitee thingees behind the seat tube for a pump, and yhe strangest (yet very cool) crank assy. I have come across, and 1/2" pitch chain. The head badge says "Standard".
Can anyone clue me in on this one? I'd like to make a fair offer, but am totally clueless. This is the first real roadster style bike that has turned my head...

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:A little help...? posted by sam on 2/11/2004 at 3:22:42 PM
Rif,you'll have to check the rear hub.Standard sounds like a German bike I had once.Used a rod spoon brake on front wheel with a torpedo coaster on rear.But then "Standard" was used as a name in most countries.Also count the spokes on the rear hub--England used 40--while German,Canadain,American used 36(as a rule)---sam

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: A little help...? posted by Rif on 2/12/2004 at 1:57:02 AM
36 spokes on the rear wheel, and I couldn't read the name on the brake arm.
It brakes (or doesn't) like a new departure.
I gotta tell ya', if all roadsters ride like that I can certainly see the appeal.
It just cruises right along sooo smooth and real easy.

MISC:Sprinter 7 Coaster brake Quality posted by: Robert on 2/10/2004 at 2:16:22 PM
Anyone here have any experience with the Sprinter 7 Sturmey Archer coasterbrake hubs? Problems, quality??

Twist shift durability??


   RE:MISC:Sprinter 7 Coaster brake Quality posted by Tim on 2/11/2004 at 10:25:53 AM
The hub is usually fine. It's the twist shift that sometimes plays up. I rebuilt mine with an extra shim between the baulk and the rotating grip. No troble since. I think the tolerence is pretty slack when they assemble these. You can make a shim up using a hole saw and a file.



   RE:MISC:Sprinter 7 Coaster brake Quality posted by James on 2/11/2004 at 10:58:10 AM
I hear Sheldn Brown's shop is selling them at bargain prices. too bad about the coaster hub.

   RE:RE:MISC:Sprinter 7 Coaster brake Quality posted by Chris on 2/18/2004 at 7:05:45 PM
That's not good. Sorry to hear that about the Sprinter 7.

AGE / VALUE:Randor? posted by: Ned on 2/9/2004 at 8:27:56 PM
from my local bike shop i ran across a womens three speed with a shimano hub and shifters.it has a lugged frame in excellent condition i.e. never ridden.it is badged Randor on the head tube.at the bottom bracket it has "made in tiawan r.o.c."looks very much like a copy of a raliegh or a hercules.i did some work for the owner and he gave it to me for free.seems a perfect bike for my wifes commute as it includes fenders sach huret belt driven odometer chaingaurd etc.any idea on it liniage?

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by: Bill on 2/9/2004 at 6:22:55 PM
Well, Usually we talk of the 3speed hubs. Was wondering if SA make single speed coaster type hubs. Need to figure out what was used on single speed bicycles in England in the prewar years.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by Matthew on 2/9/2004 at 6:42:11 PM
Pre or post WWII we rode and ride single speeds with rod brakes, (cantilevers / cables / drums are for sports cycles) no coasters here. I can't say I've ever come across British cycles with coaster brakes in general. They just aren't popular here. Even todays BMX riders would rather jam a foot in the top of their seat stays. I hope this won't disappoint you but I really think that coaster brakes are a 'west of the pond' peice of equipement.Like muscle bikes, other than the chopper, they never really caught on over here.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by sam on 2/9/2004 at 6:54:44 PM
BSA made the Eddie,AlsoPerry,and Resilion built coaster brake hubs.In s/a hubs I've only seen the 2&3 speed coasters&and drum brake for the single speeds.Anyone seen a S/A single speed coaster? And also avalible was the German torpedo coaster First avalible in 1905 built till around 1980--longest running coaster hub in history.---sam

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by Wes Kinsler on 2/9/2004 at 8:23:00 PM
As far as British brands go, Perry is the only one I can think of as well. It seems (to me)like rod-operated rim or drum brakes would be the most likely on a British single. Drum brakes certainly if it was intended for all-weather. But rod operated if it was pre-war sounds right

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by James on 2/9/2004 at 8:54:08 PM
No coaster brakes are not some disease limited to "this side of the pond." Go to holland or denmark or germany, countries where bicycles are a serious mode of transportation. What do you see? coasterbrakes, a lot of them one speeds.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by Tom on 2/9/2004 at 11:55:45 PM
Yes Sturmey Archer made single speed coaster hubs. I have in my hand a Sturmey Archer SC single speed coaster hub with the date code 16 69. Yes 16 is stamped in it. The hub is mint and from what I have seen very rare.
I am looking for a pre war Sturmey single speed coaster hub. I have an Eatons catalogue from 1920's and in the bike section Sturmey coaster hubs were on the Gliders and also in the parts section. I have an Eatons Glider from 1920's and it has a hub with no name on it, maybe Sturmey made it but never stamped them. Maybe the guys in England have seen these before.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: SIngle Speed Coaster posted by Warren on 2/10/2004 at 8:28:04 PM
There were indeed SA coasters, as Tom says. I've owned a number of these SC's...many Raleigh clones were sold here in Canada with them. They stop adequately but not great. Perry was the best single speed in my opinion. Never had an Eadie. I believe I've seen BSA singles as well as some generic english coasters. Of course CCM made huge quantities of high quality coasters here as well.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: SIngle Speed Coaster posted by Chris on 2/12/2004 at 12:40:11 AM
What is the SC coaster brake new in the box worth anyways?
$5.00 ?
and it's hard to sell too, I'll bet!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:SIngle Speed Coaster posted by Pete on 2/12/2004 at 10:25:32 PM
Coasters were not that uncommon in the UK. There was the Perry, Eadie, and a Sturmey, Sturmeys made a single , the CC
from I think the early 1920s. These are rare.(not forgetting their Tricoaster from around 1905) The Eadie was around in the late 1890s. There were a few makers,BSA being one who offered a roadster with an single front brake and a rear Eadie. I'm my opinion the Coaster first came into it's own in the late 1890s as it was an effective way of upgrading the common set up of a fixed wheel to a free wheel. At that time in the UK there were a lot of New Departures imported for that reason

AGE / VALUE:Hay Tom posted by: sam on 2/9/2004 at 1:37:58 PM
Well Tom,I finaly got around to cleaning those rims you sent. They turned out real nice.They were Palmer brand made in England---jointless,F13s. They"ll make the cyclemotor I'm building run smooth. ---sam