ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with bike brand posted by: John on 11/14/2005 at 8:38:48 PM
I found a 3-speed (English) w/ SA-AW '63 hub. Dirty, but all there. Label says "Mercury" w/ model name of "courier" on the seat tube. Looks like a Raliegh knock-off to me but is not listed under the usual Raliegh subs. Any ideas? Thank you.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Need help with bike brand posted by sam on 11/15/2005 at 4:56:06 PM
There was a Mercury brand built in Coventry.Mercury had the contract to supply the American air bases during WW2.
My guess is Mercury was taken over by Phillips(BCC) which came under Raleighs leadership in the 60s.But that's a guess.---sam

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Need help with bike brand posted by Matthew on 11/15/2005 at 6:11:29 PM
Mercury were making safety cycles pre WW1 too. They are famed for the military models. Heavy weight well engineered and almost everlasting.

Matthew - on wing-ed feet.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with bike brand posted by John on 11/15/2005 at 8:37:55 PM
Thank you, Sam and Matthew. Where did you learn of this brand? I can't seem to find anything on the web.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Need help with bike brand posted by Matthew on 11/16/2005 at 6:15:49 PM

I learnty by seeing them and having friends who own them also my Dad was in the RAF in 1950 so he had experience of them and the Hercules' that they had on the bases. You could give the Veteraan Cycle Club website I think it may be VCC dot org dot uk not sure though, give it a Google.

Matthew - less than mercurial.

FOR SALE:   1951 Rudge racer w/dynohub posted by: Doug on 11/13/2005 at 4:40:35 PM
Hi, I recently got a 1951 Rudge racer. It has a 3 speed Dynohub, works fine. Hand emblem on crank. Original grips, 3 speed lever, brakes, everything. It was hanging up for the last 30 years. It's a nice bike, just not what I collect! In Canada. Any takers? E-mail for pictures.

   RE:FOR SALE:   1951 Rudge racer w/dynohub posted by Flavio on 11/20/2005 at 6:59:16 AM
Hi, Doug i usally check Menotony Vintage Bicycles for bikes that are for sale or to view what other bike ethusiasts are taking about. i read your message of the rudge you have for sale possibly interested i would to see photo's of this bike, i just recently started collecting rudge bicycles Please email photo's

AGE / VALUE:   Wall(UK) sold the rights to Smith(US) posted by: sam on 11/13/2005 at 12:57:58 PM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wall(UK) sold the rights to Smith(US) posted by Matthew on 11/13/2005 at 3:45:01 PM
If I remember rightly, Mr Wall was a keen inventor who died in tragic circumstances, possibly in WW1? He was an engineer of some note and the Wall Auto wheel was not his only invention. Hopefully some one else here knows what I'm waffling about.

Matthew - recollection is a wonderful thing, what was I saying?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wall(UK) sold the rights to Smith(US) posted by nat on 11/13/2005 at 10:20:28 PM
Rod brakes?! - that must be a lot of fun to ride

AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by: sam on 11/12/2005 at 9:41:27 PM
Check out this if your close by:

   RE:MORE N.J. pick up sports posted by Warren on 11/13/2005 at 12:49:21 AM
And while your at it...here's a pair of Sports in NJ as well, pickup only. Look like 60's models.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by Matthew on 11/13/2005 at 10:29:50 AM
Those Rudge (Raleigh) rims look like stainless steel to me & the rest is too good to break for spares. Nice find.

Matthew - remembering.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/14/2005 at 12:55:11 PM
Hmmmm.... Totowa, eh? 'bout 45 minutes from where I work... sans debaucherous rush hour traffic of course...

Nice looking machine too.... I'll be watching this one.


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by Jeff on 11/14/2005 at 4:41:07 PM
Just what I am always looking for and my kind of price. 1000 miles may be a little too far though!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/15/2005 at 10:19:11 AM
Well... that all depends.... If it's downhill, you could ride it home, no? ;-)

I'm still watching it... with interest.... :-) Though, I daresay, from Totowa to Dingmans... all UP hill... :-S


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 11/19/2005 at 1:16:36 AM
Drat! Was unable to "babysit" the auction and was outbid. Well.... whomever got it has themselves a nice Rudge for $26



Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   N.J. pick up rudge posted by Flavio@Comcast.net on 11/20/2005 at 7:10:25 AM
Somebody, have rudge bicycles for sale, i have ten already All Gent's model All fully loaded with rear dynohubs, headlights, locking forks, leather saddles, all have dry battery units.

AGE / VALUE:   FIELD TRIP! EVERYBODY INTO THE BUS! posted by: Chris on 11/11/2005 at 10:11:30 PM
A thread that belongs on the balloon tire forum, sorry.
Ok Gang! Today's field trip is to Brooklyn, N. Y.
Why? I want to see if they are still around. Find information about what happened to the company the building, tooling and what if anything we can find. Bring your cameras.
Today's field trip adventure is another probably long gone American company is:
Magna Products Corporation out of Brooklyn N.Y.
Back in the day, they made Schwinn and Shelby bicycle chain adjuster screws, New Departure hub parts and a whole lot of other goodies that we vintage bicycle pals look for and collect. If we stumble upon the the long lost forgotten tooling and manage to make it run again after up rooting it up and trucking it to out secret lair we will be able to turn out re- pop vintage bicycle parts such as Schwinn and Shelby chain adjuster screws. ( I have a liking for author Ian Rand's book: Atlas Shrugged. Can't you tell?) Usually we return home after discovering that it is just a empty brown field and that the company went under 30 years ago or that they shipped it's tooling overseas after throwing the good American employees out into the cold with no pensions!
Hopefully this company diversified and survived and are still employing decent New Yorkers making some other sort of widgets... but I doubt it.
This ain't China! Anyways we are poking about in the forgotten dust of an America of sadly long ago.Looking for information and bits and pieces so we can restore the once mighty and proud Schwinn and Shelby bicycles to the way they were. I'm staying behind because I break down and cry at what I see on these field trip adventures.
Finding packets of these varoius types of parts all made by Magna at this one collectors lair was interesting and now, I can offer it. By the way, the chain adjuster thread pitch is:
(1/4'-24 x 1 3/4')
Sam, will you drive the bus?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   FIELD TRIP! EVERYBODY INTO THE BUS! posted by Chris on 11/11/2005 at 10:46:48 PM
Being into British bicycles primarily. I missed the domestic Schwinn scene. Still there was this one huge, huge shop with all the vintage, old, unbelievable inventory still intact! I went dumb at the sight of it and could not speak. Needless to say, we bought everything there. Collecting balloon tire bikes is still not my first love but I have it in my blood and have a love for it all.
I am about out of these parts. I did not bring home all that much but is is interesting and as usual I wonder how much they made and the whole history of this company. Bet you did not know who all( what companies) Schwinn had knocking out their parts for them.
Hey, back in the day Schwinn was huge! The employees in the Union and times were good.
Today, everything is so changed and different. I cannot grasp it all. What happened?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: FIELD TRIP! EVERYBODY INTO THE BUS! posted by sam on 11/14/2005 at 3:45:42 PM
Sam, will you drive the bus?
We'll be passing by the site of the Pierce Automobile in Bufflo on our way over to the Emblem bicycle factory in Angora only 5 miles away.When piercs stopped building their bicycle they sold it to Emblem.On thw way back from Magna we're going to try and find the Site of the White Sewing maching---they built the Sturmey Archer Tricoaster hubs for SA during WW1.Step right on.....sam