AGE / VALUE:   55 Norman Western Flyer 4 $ale posted by: Ralph Yoder on 4/24/2005 at 12:51:52 AM
I posted this bike on eBay Item number: 7151723119.

AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer posted by: Patrick on 4/23/2005 at 6:23:51 PM
I have come across an old bicycle that I would like to restore for my sister. On the badge, I can make out that it says "Western Flyer" and "Western Auto Stores" and on the Chain cover it says "Sherwood Flyer" . I came here and found out that this bike might be a 57, as the sturmey archer rear hub says 57 on it. It has leather strips on the front and rear hubs, and the generator for the lights says crown and still produces some electricity. I would like to know where I could find a few parts for this restoration, as well as a little more information on this particular bike and model. If anyone can help, It is greatly appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Western Flyer posted by James on 4/28/2005 at 2:21:46 AM
If the bicycle is a not an american cruiser with a SA hub then it is probably a Raleigh Sports sold as a Western Flyer, I have one of those, pretty much a standard low spec. Raleigh Sports with the exception of the front hub which has a less common type of cone. You should be able to get the parts form oldroads.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer posted by Patrick on 4/29/2005 at 6:17:04 PM
The bike cleaned up nice, Just needs a little more on the back wheel. I have included a picture for a little more help identifying this bike, and what the value might be of it if I were to sell it.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Western Flyer posted by Kurt K. on 4/29/2005 at 7:53:22 PM
What you have there is a rather common Westfield Manufacturing roadster. Identical to the Columbia "Tourist" models (which, incedentally, are simply light-roadster Sports-type bikes) The handlebars don't look original on yours - you might want to get an aftermarket 'Pyramid'-brand North Road bar for it, just for appearances.

Take care,


MISC:   Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by: P.C. Kohler on 4/23/2005 at 1:13:56 AM
Sheldon Brown has added my article on the Raleigh Lenton series to his Retro Raleighs site:

P.C. Kohler

   RE:MISC:   Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by CPH on 4/23/2005 at 3:39:16 PM
Thanks for the article. What great photos, too.

It appears that the Lenton Sports that made their way to the USA weren't as nice as the UK models - three-speeds rather than four, for starters. I have a '53 Lenton Sports with a steel 3-speed hub. Perhaps someone altered the bike. It has upright Raleigh handlebars, instead of the drops. Combined with the B15 saddle, it's a bit uncomfortable, I'm afraid. And the front wheel is a dynohub, with headlight on the stem.

Depsite the less than flamboyant carmine paint, it's still a great bike, handles great, feels good, too.



   RE:RE:MISC: Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by James on 4/25/2005 at 7:51:56 PM
Does anyone have a Lenton tourist, the upright model with flat moustache bars, alu chaincover? I'm fascinated by that model, there were other lightweight city models, Sunbeam made some before the war with chromoly frames, I think Dawes made some, post-war with 531, but that's all I know, I've only seen the catalogue scans. I wonder if there was a Rudge version of the Lenton tourist.
If anyone has any scanned Rudge catalogues from around 1950-62ish they would like to share, email me. Sometime in the next year I will begin making my own bicycle website, Rudge will probably be the focus. I'm going to be taking some webdesign classes and will have to make a website, so British and Dutch bicycles it is, what other sort of website could I make? I can't think of anything.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC: Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/26/2005 at 4:33:39 PM
Yes I have a Lenton Tourist, c. 1951 with an FM hub. This was a beautifully spec'd machine with alloy seat pin, alloy chainguard (rare!), alloy GB brakes, bars and stem (mine is a replacement stem alas) and those lovely alloy Dunlop 26 x 1 1/4" rims. Even got the correct era B-66 saddle and a dynohub. Alas, I had this repainted in England and... they painted in the wrong green! It should have been metallic and it's green enamel. Just ruined it for me so she's been sitting for a year unassembled. I'd like to sell her to someone who'd put her back together but keen on local (Washington DC) pick up rather than shipping.

This model is discussed in my Lenton article on RetroRaleighs and yes it was available as a Humber and also Rudge. Interestingly, all three were in the same colour.

Although this model was unsuccessful, it was revived c. 1974 as the Raleigh Super Tourer another beautifully outfitted machine. There just never was the market for premium quality roadster type bikes it seems. Both of these rank as some of Raleigh's best and rarest models.

P.C Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by James on 4/26/2005 at 7:53:00 PM
When you say it was revived as the Super Tourer, do you mean the same model was put back into production or a new Light roadster was built along similar lines using a current 531 road frame? What hubs did the super tourer have?


   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/26/2005 at 9:32:40 PM
No, I mean the concept was revived i.e. a quality Reynolds 531 frame, choice components. The Retro Raleighs catalogue archives has the Super Tourer.. check 1975-76. These periodically come up on eBay. Lovely bikes in very distinctive colours.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:MISC:   Retro Raleighs Lenton Feature posted by Tim Fricker on 5/18/2005 at 2:47:44 AM
I have one of those Lenton Tourists as well, making for two of them in the DC area... I wonder what the odds of that were? I'll echo what Peter has to say... it's a lovely machine, but I can understand why it didn't really hit it in the market. I acquired mine for a song from a non-profit shop where I worked, simply because everyone else saw it as "just an old Raleigh 3 speed"! The only person who saw anything at all interesting about it was the Scwhinn nut, who noticed the wheels were the same size as one of the odd Scwhinn 26" sizes. Luckily for me, he backed off when I said I wanted the whole bike! Mine's pretty ratty looking, and is at the moment waiting reassembly, but it's got most of the original bits. No saddle, chainguard, or fenders, but I can find a B.66 easily enough, and I have a NOS set of Bluemels in white, which will be close enough for my taste. The chainguard is probably hopeless. The best I can hope for is to use one from a Sports, but it won't be alloy, and it won't be "correct". But considering what I paid, I can live with that.


AGE / VALUE:   Sturmey Archer wingnuts posted by: Jeff R on 4/23/2005 at 12:29:54 AM
I have several different styles of front Sturmey Archer wingnuts that I would like some info on. The front wingnuts on my 1948 Raleigh Clubman look like the rears. That is they have the same teardrop shape with the cutout holes in the wing. No washer,they have a shoulder that keys into the front fork end. The wings on an other set that I have are shaped like a styleized "R". That is the end of the teardrop wing is pushed out making it look kind of like a Raleigh R. One set has the shoulder or boss, the other set has a washer attached. Can anyone tell me what year they changed from the teardrop to the "R" shape or did they make both styles during the same time period? What year did they add the washer? Also did Sturmey Archer make a rear wingnut in the styleized "R" shape or only the teardrop shape?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Sturmey Archer wingnuts posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/23/2005 at 1:10:32 AM
From what I have gathered, Sturmey-Archer wingnuts are only for Sturmey-Archer hub gears and dynohubs. Period. The lovely Raleigh "R" wingnuts would be fitted to a) front hub that wasn't a dynohub (and I haven't seen too many dynohubs with wingnuts, my '48 Lenton Clubman sure didn't have them) and b) rear single speed hubs. Rarer still are the "R" wingnuts which are alloy and for the RRA. I make do with chromed steel ones on mine! Pity.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Sturmey Archer wingnuts posted by Jeff R on 4/23/2005 at 12:09:20 PM
I have one set of Raleigh "R" wingnuts that are threaded for a front dynohub. They have the built in washer. All of my wingnuts are chrome plated steel.
My '48 Clubman came with the teardrop style on the front that match the rear Sturmey Archer wingnuts. I was wondering when the "R" wingnuts were introduced.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Sturmey Archer wingnuts posted by Warren on 4/23/2005 at 2:15:14 PM
My 48 Lenton Clubman came with the chromed steel R nuts on the front. Who knows if they were added later.

I also picked up a set of GB wing nuts for Sturmey 4 speed hubs...these are very sweet as well.

AGE / VALUE:   San Antonio Bike Path posted by: sam on 4/22/2005 at 12:02:19 AM
couple of weeks ago the wife(Carmen)& I took the Russ tandem along the San Antonio bike path.:
May1 S/A will start bike mo. with several events downtown.---sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE: San Antonio Bike Path posted by Warren on 4/23/2005 at 3:29:55 PM
You're teasing me with that bike again Sam...not very nice of you.