ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by: Jeff Bikeguy on 10/6/2006 at 6:36:31 PM
What colors were Raleigh Twenties made in throughout their production run? I've seen plenty of green, white, and brown Twenties over the years and I recently picked up a blue one. I had never seen one in this light metallic blue before. What year(s) was this color offered?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Matthew on 10/7/2006 at 3:24:47 PM
I came across an early model (about 1967) this colour and can remember late 70's models this colour too. Also Triumph Trafficmaster model were in this colour, though mine was silver. The trafficmaster was a badge engineered Twenty.

Matthew - riding along on my psuhbike.....

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Ed on 10/7/2006 at 4:36:27 PM
Yes I saw one at Rick Cycle in Buffalo NY. I have been looking for Twentys and Folders on Ebay for 3 years. The blue was limited to small production. The brown green and white is more common. I have customized 2 of them and I think the ride is comfortable. The original headset is poor. Thread the fork down and add a Raleigh headset. Cutting down the head tube 10mm is required. Be careful on hills with the original rims and brakepads. This has the worst stopping brakes of any bike I have tested. This could be fixed by adding alloy rims and good brakepads. Happy trails Ed

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Warren on 10/7/2006 at 5:11:31 PM
I've also seen the Raleigh gold Twenty's as well. Might have been an export colour.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 10/7/2006 at 6:24:56 PM
The plot thickens on this bike....
Brakes aren't a problem as it has 1969 dated Sturmey drum brake hubs (36 hole). I think these may have been a dealer installed option because they're spoked to chrome 20 x 1 3/4 (Not 1.75) rims that are stamped "Made in Italy".

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Matthew on 10/8/2006 at 12:23:51 AM
Hi Jeff,

20 X 1 3/4 is the front wheel size for low gravity trade bikes (cycletrucks). The Italian rims could be 'Rigida'?

Has any one tried to fit Vee or cantilever brakes on a BMX fork to a Twenty? There does come a point at which you improve the braking beyond the dynamic capabilities of the bike, ie you just make the wheels lock all the time. The drum brakes sound great, what a little hot rod you have there.

Matthew - Small is beautiful (I do hope so!)

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Matthew on 10/9/2006 at 9:26:40 AM
Hi there,

saw a chap in Norwich today bowling along on a late model Twenty in metallic purple! Lets not forget the little cousin the Raliegh Eighteen (with what size wheels/ Yes 18") and the Bianca, Lavender and others, all close relatives. Then there are the folders including the Hercules Stowaway. Of lsightly better quality and no relation what so every is the Dawes Kingpin. Its rather gawdy with chrome mudguards but a very good bike none the less.

Matthew - small wheels within wheels.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Matthew on 10/9/2006 at 10:35:47 AM
Mistakes above.
The man was wearing a mustard jumper and black trousers, the bike was metallic purple.

I mistyped SLIGHTLY & it should read What size wheels?

Matthew - to ere is human (where did I go wrong)

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by Ed on 10/11/2006 at 5:19:55 PM
The drum brake is something I have thought about but where to find one in good shape and how would it fit a Raleigh fork? I am supprised that no one else modifies the headset as I do. The BMX fork would be a good way to get V brakes fitted. The classic lines of the bicycle would be lost. I would say buy a new bicycle with modern parts if you need high performance. I have been looking at them.... Ed

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Twenty - What colors? posted by scott grosse on 10/28/2006 at 6:16:16 AM
I have a 1955 Royal Crown bike made in England. It was purchased new when I was 12 years old. The bike is in excellent original condition, brown in color. I have researched the web sites and can't find Royal Crown.
Any help is appreciated!!!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Looking for shift cable posted by: dc on 10/4/2006 at 4:22:24 PM
Hi, I cleaning up a 70's Raleigh Sprite 5 speed and I am in need of a deraileur cable that fits in the original single shifter. modern cables don't fit.

Is there a ready source for these cables?
This may help to illustrate what I looking for.



   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Looking for shift cable posted by Kurt K. on 10/4/2006 at 6:09:27 PM
Hello D.C.,

Try getting a package of generic Bell cables from Wal-Mart - the ends on the cables in these sets are soldered in both fashions - one type on one end, and the second type on the other. Simply snip off the end you don't want.

Take care,


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Looking for shift cable posted by Ed on 10/7/2006 at 4:47:27 PM
I think the cable ends are too large for generic cables. I had an old Raleigh made Hercules 10 speed that had a French Huret system and it required a special small size. I solder cut down brass rod drilled for that cable gauge on to it. I just picked up a Sprite that may need a cable. I will look close at it and report back when I get some time. Ed

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Looking for shift cable posted by -Kurt on 10/7/2006 at 6:15:11 PM
As said before, the small size IS provided in the Bell-packaged cable packs.


AGE / VALUE:   went for a night ride last Friday posted by: sam on 10/4/2006 at 9:44:09 AM
Kind of a new group,they meet in front of the Alamo at 9pm.A friend,Art,was to be their too as he runs a B&B on Alamo street.At 9:10 the group decided to head out(Art didn't show)The lead rider a man that looked to be a little older the me and riding a DL-1(single speed)did a "make up the coarse as you go".But he and the others did know their way around San Antonio.On the other hand I was lost from the beginning.After about 30 mins of riding and a stop brake ,Mr DL1 and the others decided to keep going!I turned back.I was getting a bet late for me,I needed to get back to the truck,load the bike and drive home.But on a bike,at night,and lost,well it was a learning experance.Nutting looks the same from a bike seat.I do remember passing several landmarks--but seems I must have circled around downtown somehow.Got back to the Alamo at 10:15 so all went well.Later learned Art was ridding his 1899 Barns White Flyer when the fork mounted light slid down and took out 10 spokes.Art was unhurt but had to walk the bike home.BTW,I road the 1953 McLean featherweight AM 3 speed,with no problems.I think I'll stick to the bike path so I can't get lost----sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   went for a night ride last Friday posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/4/2006 at 5:21:06 PM
What? No GPS? ;-)

Actually, Sam, it sounds like a most awesome outing... aside from your somewhat obfuscated post-ride peregrinations. To start out at such an historic site is pretty neat.

Around here, there are some Rail-Trails that are quite nice. But what I've been really wanting to try out and have yet had the time are some of the old canal towpaths along the Delaware and Neversink rivers.

As to the light taking out spokes... gad.... that's downright scary. Methinks if I'm going to use dynamo lighting I'll stick to rear wheel driven units. One thing to lock the rear wheel... a whole other bag of snakes to lock the front, aye?

Glat to hear Art was undamaged.

Thanks for the post. Always nice to live vicariously through the activities of others. ;-))


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   went for a night ride last Friday posted by Ed on 10/7/2006 at 5:01:58 PM
The bicycle community around Buffalo NY likes to go on rides like that. I volnteer at Buffalo Blue Bicycle. Go to Buffalobluebicycle.org. Many of our members ride classic bicycles. We find sunday after 11pm is a low traffic time. The bicycle path is allways a good way to go. Keep riding Ed

AGE / VALUE:   Shimano equipped Sport posted by: Mark on 10/3/2006 at 10:30:40 AM
Ebay #130033049143 is a Sport with a Shimano rear end. Is this a late model not made in England?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Shimano equipped Sport posted by Warren on 10/4/2006 at 4:35:07 AM

AGE / VALUE:   The thrill of new, old stock original parts posted by: Chris on 10/2/2006 at 11:00:39 AM
Fitted new headset race cups in the bike. New, old, stock, 1950's vintage, chromed steel, Raleigh headset races.
New, ball bearings, new, Phil Wood grease.
I knocked out the old worn cups and pressed in the new parts and it was awesome.

The bike steers like a dream. I did not have to sit there and squint and look over the parts before putting them in the bike. No slightly used parts to clean and re-grease. These babies were brand new!
The only thing more awesome is fitting new bottom bracket fixed cups!
I pulled open the drawer at this one shop years back and gasped and froze. There they sat! Original Raleigh bottom bracket fixed cups. Nobody else had beaten me to them. Nobody else had gone thru the shop looking for goodies like I was. I scooped up them all and proceded to go to the cash register and in shock I asked Jerry to ring me up. I always had free run of the back room where I was given permission to raid the parts drawers whenever I was able. With trembling hands, I paid for the parts and went home and replaced the fixed cups and socked the rest away in the old wooden drawer cabinet that I brought home.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The thrill of new, old stock original parts posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/4/2006 at 5:25:41 PM
Always an adventure, aye? ;-) And so descriptively eloquent. Nicely done, sir!


Larry "Boneman" Bone