ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Brooks seat posted by: Carrie on 7/26/2006 at 2:26:00 PM
Thanks to finding this site I've finally gathered some information about my bicycle! I have a ladies Royal Scot with SA hub dated 1-72. This bike was a birthday gift as a child and I just pulled it out of the barn a while back. We've been working on it and now are currently residing in Europe and I love this bike. My question is this: The Brooks seat is shot, my husband temporarily replaced it and we'd like to see about repairing it. The springs and all metal peices are fine, but the plastic has become brittle and I finally could no longer ride on it with the many cracks. Can the seat be recovered, plastic and all? Any ideas? I'm going to start reading the repair/restore info also.
Thanks so much for any help. I've found a new fascination reading all the vintage bike info.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Brooks seat posted by Chris on 7/27/2006 at 12:35:52 AM
Find a gel cover to put atop the old seat but I would rather advise you to just replace the seat with a new leather Brooks seat. They are still being made and are as good as ever.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Brooks seat posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 7/30/2006 at 10:56:24 AM
Hmmm... dunno 'bout the gel cover on a cracked mattress saddle... but if I were to do that, I would certainly affix a goodly quantity of duct tape over the crack(s) to prevent them from piercing the gel cover.

Brooks leather saddle would certainly be the way to go. And yes... still available new... or an older one off Ebay may just have the right "patina" to match the vintage of the bike.


Larry "Boneman" Bone

WANTED:   SA 1967 S5 hub Shifter mechanism posted by: Steve Fink on 7/24/2006 at 8:38:27 PM
I am looking for a twin shifter for a 1967 SA type S5 5 speed hub with bell crank indicator on the left. It has two black paddles that sit on the top tube. If you think you have one, email me and I can send you a photo of an original I found online, to make sure it's the correct one. One of my paddles broke right off. THANKS!!!

   RE:WANTED:   SA 1967 S5 hub Shifter mechanism posted by Bryan on 7/29/2006 at 12:31:00 PM
You can also use 2 standard SA handlebar thumb shifter levers for the S5. Thats what my Sprite came with. Wouldn't be original to your set-up, but would get you rolling.

   RE:WANTED:   SA 1967 S5 hub Shifter mechanism posted by Ed on 8/3/2006 at 2:28:47 AM
I have one. This shifter is the reason why the S5 got a bad review. This is a super fine hub!! I am looking to sell. This would be for looks only. This was a krap idea. It was made to look like a car shifter. I think that if I wanted to think of cars when riding my bicycle I will drive into a parked car. When I wake up in to reality then I would see that cars are sucking the earth dry! (sorry to get politcal) If you want it emal me at ford906@cs.com

AGE / VALUE:   1969 Royal Prince posted by: Tammy on 7/24/2006 at 8:00:51 AM
Hi! Thanks for the tip Matthew! I found out that indeed
my AMF was made in 1969. It has all English and Indian parts on it. The hub is a classic Sturmey-Archer 3-speed
from that era, and the bike has its original white-wall tires. It also has a headlight. I love the headlight. I haven't found the same model anywhere. Can anyone
give me a ballpark estimate of its value considering its
rarity and condition? Thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE: 1969 Royal Prince posted by Warren on 7/24/2006 at 11:50:00 PM
Rarity doesn't necessarily translate into value. In fact, Raleighs tend to get more money than Sports bikes made by other marques even though many more were made. Finally, Indian parts may be less desireable.

Rarely, do we get rich off these bikes. You've got a nice period bike in good condition and you should consider riding it..lots. With some care, it will still outlast you and maybe your children.

If you really want a price, it could sell between $50 and $150 in my estimate.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   28' camel back frame, posted by: Hollis on 7/24/2006 at 6:20:21 AM
I have an old British made camel back frame which i rebuilt but unfortunately the badge and name model logos had long worn away, it was black, has single speed 28' wheels,box fenders,grease port on left side of BB, seat bolt holds rear triangle on along with a bolt by the stays that mounts the chainguard. sprocket looks like a fifties brampton but might not be original because the forks had been changed. it has the points for mounting a pump too. any ideas or hints would be appreciated, kinda looks like a Black Beauty Pony or a mead motorbike but single top tube camel back.....
Thanks for your time, hollis_bailey@hotmail.com
P.S. how do you date a phillips single speed with rod brakes?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 28' camel back frame, posted by Warren on 7/24/2006 at 11:41:16 PM
Re: how do you date a phillips single speed with rod brakes?

Dinner and a late Madison at the velodrome perhaps? Arf! (couldn't pass on that)

Raleigh made many single tube camel back bikes...check the bottom bracket and threading to confirm or rule out.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 28' camel back frame, posted by Hollis on 7/30/2006 at 3:51:48 AM

I've only ever seen Raleigh camel back's in kids or youths sizes, and the dropouts are straight rear loaders which no raleigh I've had or seen had, and the star crank, but like I said that might hace been changed there's wear on the in side of the arms but none on the rear triangle in the same spots....??????but if it was a Raleigh would that make it pre wae with the 28 wheels and pump brackets, oiler port on the bottom bracket and all, would a serial number help narrow down the possibilities? how about a picture of it although since I didn't know what it was, I couldn't restore it so I made it my everyday rider so not much other than the frame is original.

AGE / VALUE:   AMF Royal Prince! posted by: Tammy on 7/22/2006 at 12:40:31 AM
My AMF Royal Prince is a mystery. It has 3 speeds, with
a working headlight and the original whitewall tires. These are 26 13/4. Does anyone know when this was made? I
saw one that was very close, but it was a coaster, or 1 speed. Please let me know. Serial numbers are JB21293.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMF Royal Prince! posted by Matthew on 7/23/2006 at 4:25:08 PM
Tammy, clean your three speed hub and look for the date on that. It'll be something like 11 56. Which would indicate Nov 1956 etc.

Matthew - dates, the fourth dimension.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMF Royal Prince! posted by Chris on 10/9/2007 at 11:19:45 PM
I have a royal prince three speed and could not locate the serial... Where did you find yours???