FOR SALE:   1956 robin hood posted by: Gary Main on 9/19/2006 at 9:43:53 PM
am going to scrap a 1956 robin hood, has chainwheel, gaurd, original brakes and cable stays anyone interested in these peices? am taking the hub for another project. also have a hercules bare frame and fork.

   RE:FOR SALE:   1956 robin hood posted by Chris on 9/20/2006 at 12:17:49 PM
1956 was a very good year for Robin Hood bicycles.
Good Quality then.

   RE:FOR SALE: 1956 robin hood posted by Howard on 9/20/2006 at 7:06:44 PM
Curious. Possibly interested. Does it include handlebars? Or is it just the chainwheel, brakes, & guard? Also, curious as to where it might be.. I.E. near Indianapolis, or ??

   RE:FOR SALE:   1956 robin hood posted by Gary M on 9/22/2006 at 5:21:55 PM
the whole bike is here, except fenders. Central michigan. I need the rear hub, its dated 8 56 3sp. front forks oddly raked out, looks bent bbut no evidence of it. will toss in a 50s hercules frame, with correct fork, 40 plus shippiong?

   RE:FOR SALE:   1956 robin hood posted by Gary M on 9/22/2006 at 7:55:16 PM
The money isn’t important in either bike. I want the 1956 SA 3sp hub; I will send you the whole shooting match cheap. I also have a Raleigh ladies frame, real clean. As for the bare Hercules frame I would need the fork for the Robin Hood. I hate to ruin any nice bike, but this Hercules is bare. The Top tube and lugs are nice. The Robin Hood rides as is. Rusty rims. Fenders off the Raleigh ladies would make a nice whole Robin Hood, although they are 27 in, it should look good on 26x 1 3/8. Find me a 5 55 SA 36sp hub or shell in good shape, I will swap it all.


   RE:FOR SALE:   1956 robin hood posted by Howard on 9/23/2006 at 10:41:12 AM
Thanks Gary, Have sent you an E-mail.

   RE:FOR SALE:   1956 robin hood posted by Howard on 9/30/2006 at 9:58:59 PM
Oddly enough, although no answer was received to earlier post or email, items similar to those described showed up on the 'bay, with a starting bid 50% higher than what's mentioned here. Possibly a coincidence, possibly a miscommunication, possibly a lot of things... Oh well.

FOR SALE:   1962 RALEIGH COLT posted by: MARK on 9/19/2006 at 5:19:15 PM

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   A bit confused... posted by: Caz on 9/19/2006 at 9:08:07 AM

I have just bought an old bicycle of ebay and just wondered if anybody could give me a bit more information about it. Having a brief look around on the internet I found a picture of a bike that is almost identical which the website said was a Norman on
but I can't seem to find anything else after that.

The seat, which looks very old, has BSA Number 41 Made In England embossed on it, which means nothing to me. The rear hub has "A number 7 Hercules 3 speed) engraved on, which means even less than the seat. I can't see any stickers or badges on the frame, apart from a very worn out one on the front bit below the handlebars that says Famous the World Over, Birmingham --illin, however not sure if this belongs orginally with the bike.

As you can probably tell I have never had an old bike before, and this was something of an impulse purchase. Any information would be gratefully received, since it may silence my mum for a couple of hours from her "useless piece of junk cluttering up her garage" rant.



   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   A bit confused... posted by Matthew on 9/19/2006 at 10:58:20 AM
Hi there Caz,

Welcome to more wisdom and help than you can shake a stick at. The saddle of your bike was made by Birmingham Small Arms Ltd (BSA) and the bike looks like a Hercules. Two further places, on the bike to look for ID; 1)The lamp bracket at the front, has it got an 'H' cut into it?
2) The chainwheel, (the big sprocket at the front which the chain goes around), has it got 'H's on it or does it spell out Hercules?

The rear hub is a Hercules 3 speed made under licence from Sturmey Archer.

No doubt other contributors will have more info to help you. Several more detailed photos would help too.

Matthew - here to help.

Not sure about Birmingham Illin, should be Birmingham ENGLAND.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   A bit confused... posted by Chris on 9/20/2006 at 10:31:50 AM
First off, I would like to say it is really good to see this web site up and running again. Thanks Go to Vin

About this bike. The rear Hercules 3 speed hub is better than the Sturmey- Archer hubs of this same time period. The top tube shifter has value as does the L shaped seat post. There are a lot of bike collectors out there who would love that little piece on their bike.I am one of them! This is a well built bike. Hercules and Phillips were truely honored the world over or as the Phillips slogan went: Renown The World Over.
I would be fitting new tires and tubes to this bike and with the modern gumwall tires I would be be zipping along with a grin on my face and who cares if this is a ladies frame bike or not. This rear rack is substantial and original to the bike and this bike is complete and a good find. Enjoy it and tell Mum a bicycle collector in Detroit, Michigan likes the bike and encouraged you to fix it up, ride it and be proud of the bike with it's all British heritage. This thing that is set out at the kerb for rubbish removal is honored, sought after, collected and loved by a lot more people over the world than you realize. It is taken for granted because it is familiar to you. Many people would pick this up in an instant, take it home and fix it up and ride it and enjoy it.
This has a nice leather seat too.
Regards to you and your mum.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Worth fixing? posted by: Barry on 9/18/2006 at 6:23:13 PM
Hello all.
Glad to see the site back up and running!
I must confess ... I am a packrat. I can't stand to see something being thrown away if there is any chance it may still be useful.
That being said; I recently picked up a bicycle that someone was throwing away.
It is a Raleigh Tourist. I have no experience with English bikes, but based on the info I have seen on this site, I believe it to be a ladies DL-1, and I think it's a 1980 model. (There is an "80" on the Sturmey hub.) It seems to be complete except for the front reflector and the tire pump. Everything appears to be original. Even the tires (which still have a lot of tread) are marked "Raleigh".
The bike definitely has rust issues. The 28" rims are pretty badly surface rusted, the chain guard is bent and has a spot of rust, the Brooks seat, although intact, is somewhat mis-shapen. (Exposure to elements?) Also, the thumb shifter might be a gonner.
I picked up the bike because I had never seen a rod brake bike before, and I thought it might be something special.
I guess I would just appreciate some feedback as to whether or not this bike would be worth putting the money into it to make it road worthy again, or if I should just roll it out to the curb on trash day as somebody else was doing.
Sorry to go on so long, but I wanted to give you as much info as I could think of.

Thanks much,

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Worth fixing? posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/19/2006 at 2:42:41 AM
Absolutely an excellent find and yes... worth the rescue from the landfill!


Read on here. Follow links. and such has a plethora of info on your machine!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Worth fixing? posted by Chris on 9/20/2006 at 10:36:41 AM
What size frame?
Yes. either way you were Lucky,Lucky Lucky.
Please keep and ride it- these are pleasent to ride.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Worth fixing? posted by Meaux on 9/20/2006 at 7:58:06 PM
I was given a dl-1 with rust issues like that. I used a wire brush drill attacment to remove what I could from the rims and then used a chemical rust remover/stabilizer from a car parts store. after two coats of the chemical and more wire brushing the rims are usable although I stocked up on brake pads since the surface is still rough enough to wear them a little prematurely...

I added new chain, tires, tubes and rear sprocket (21 tooth) and a seat from a donor bike and have her back to work as commuter bike for under $50. Meaux

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Worth fixing? posted by Barry on 9/22/2006 at 3:10:09 AM
Thank you for the responses.

I kind of thought I had found something somewhat special, as I had never seen a bike like this one before.

I have no idea how to measure the frame size.

I forgot to mention a couple of other areas with rust issues. The cylindrical, center part of the pedals, (especially the right one), and the front chainring.

There is also a somewhat disconcerting "clanking" sound eminating from the vicinity of the rear wheel when the bike is rolled. It varies with speed. (The faster you roll the bike, the faster it "clanks"). Is this characteristic of some specific problem? (Perhaps with the Sturmey hub?)

Would this seat be useable even though it is sort of warped on the sides? I don't want to be riding and have something give way, and suddenly I've had an intimate relationship with a seat post. :-O
I have seen Brooks B-66 saddles on eBay, but the rails underneath the seat (running from the front of the seat to the rear springs) are black, as opposed to chrome on the original. I suppose I could overlook that minor detail, if it means preserving the virtue of my posterior. The other downside is that the seats are rather pricey.

Should I feel silly riding a ladies model, or does this bike have a "coolness factor" that transcends all that?

I have found a bicycle parts supplier online who has the same style 28" rims as these, (although made in Germany, I believe), for $40 each. I would still have to have a bike shop install them, as, unfortunately, I don't do any of this myself.
Any Raleigh specialists in the Central/Western MA area want to take on a charity project? ;-)

However, please feel free to continue the advice, and words of encouragement; I need them.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Worth fixing? posted by Geoff on 9/22/2006 at 9:03:25 AM
These are fine old machines. They were built to last for decades, and they give a very upright, regal ride. I have several of them here at my house in Shutesbury, Mass., as well as lot of parts. You are welcome to come over some time and we can talk about old English machinery, or let me know if you need any parts and I'll see what i can do.
Geoff Rogers

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Trade bike ride. posted by: Matthew on 9/18/2006 at 9:26:35 AM
Hi Folks,

Its great to be back, I hope nobody fell off on the way? A BIG thank you to Vin and the guys for persisting with the venture and getting us all back togther again.

Not only are we back on the board but also I'm back from my Trade Bike jaunt. I covered 212 miles in 4.5days at an average of 10mph and a max of 32mph. I had to get off an push sometimes but I did have two days of head wind. All my hosts were absolute stars and my friend Mike Wilton joined me on the third day mounted on his 1925 Elswick low gravity trade bike. After no training he did 48 miles with me, aged 58 thats plenty to be proud of!

The ride was a blast and the Alzheimer's society will be £500 better off when all the money is gathered in.

I recommend you do something like this run if you have half a mind to do so (you probably only need half a mind). It will do you good. I'm happy to give advice etc.

Matthew - now resting on laurels.