ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   New Scam??? posted by: Dick in L.A. on 10/4/2007 at 7:09:11 PM
Just a quick message here. If you are currently bidding on ebay item #130157979075 and you haven't clicked on "Larger Picture" above each (or any) of the photos, please do so before you bid any further. And if you win, please don't pay until you look at the enlarged pictures. The smaller pictures magically change from what is probably an authentic 1950 Raleigh men's roadster to a ladies repro. Check it out. Pretty funny unless you are the winner and have already paid.
Dick in L.A.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   New Scam??? posted by Matthew on 10/5/2007 at 12:15:32 AM
No relation to seller what so ever, not my auction, not my country!

However, I think this is an eBay glitch. The seller has no other items for sale and the ladies bike in question has a completely different description. There seem to be a few problems with the eBay site right now so it would be worthwhile telling them about this one (I an eBay.co.uk user so not my area). By the way Dick have you contacted the seller? They obviously aren't cycle wise if you see the reply to a question posed about the brakes (of course there were cable brakes on Raleighs in the '50s). They give genuine sounding provenance for the bike so I hope they would answer questions honestly.

The negative feedback on eBay thing is a real pain. I had a rather shady buyer who I wasn't happy with and he left me rotten feedback!

Matthew - ebothered

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: New Scam??? posted by Warren on 10/6/2007 at 8:24:22 AM
Which ever bike it is, both are easily worth the final price of $158. The womens is still a real DL-1 in excellent condition. The older mens is of course, more deireable.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: sciencemonster on 10/4/2007 at 1:10:19 PM
Just a note of warning: eBay seller Matthew Garrity, email bluemlg@blueyonder.co.uk, username stamar2006. He was selling 'mint' knock off seat bags. The one I got was covered with pinkish/reddish stains. He offered me a $10 refund which is kind of useless, since the postage to return was $11. No offer to refund the postage I wasted on the 'mint' bag. The damage was really obvious, and, in fact, he was selling some of the bags as damaged/stained. I just thought it was pretty sleezy to sell this one as 'mint.'


   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Kevin on 10/4/2007 at 7:39:50 PM
You can always give him negative feedback. He will then give you negative feedback, even though you have done nothing improper. That's one of the big weaknesses of eBay.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by sciencemonster on 10/5/2007 at 9:18:00 AM
I gave him neg feedback - and he, of course, gave me one right back.

You gotta admire the justice that eBay doles out, though. HIS feedback affected my score, but mine didn't affect his! His little spreadsheet at the top shows '0' bad feedback int he last month, thru the last year. Even though my neg is, like, three down on the list!

Lucky for me, the bag was so cheap it doesn't matter. But what he did was so sleezy, that I couldn't let it go without a negative. And I just noticed - he just auctioned off 8 more crappy stained ones, just like mine, dirt cheap. So I guess my complaint at least saved some others from getting screwed.

What a wanker.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Kevin on 10/6/2007 at 4:10:58 PM
I did the same thing, and the sleazy seller responded with negative feedback. But the only negative thing she could dream up was, "Item was antique and worth more than he paid. Beware!" I had to laugh ...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by sciencemonster on 10/6/2007 at 6:04:46 PM
Funny how sometimes morons make life bearable,isn't it?

I've been complaining to eBay about how this guy's feedback dinged my #'s, but my feedback didn't affect his...and it seems eBay has out sourced their support. The guy couldn't even comprehend what exactly I was saying - he thought everything was OK since his feedback 'effected' mine just fine!

At this point, it's become comical. On the bright side, after trying every cleaning product in the house, I left the bag soaking in bleach overnight and the stains have mostly gone away. $20 for a slightly stained bag is a good deal.

And I got to channel my rage.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/8/2007 at 2:16:35 AM
I had a buyer from Singapore that turned out to be a non-paying bidder. Sent him countless emails with no responce whatsoever. So, I reported him as such to Ebay... I forget how many days it was before I could finally re-list the item.. but it was more than a few.

Once I was able, I dinged his feedback rating with his non-paying bidder status. He responded with negative feedback acusing me of conspiring with a false bidder to drive up the price. His words exactly: "I am not water fish."

I presume he mean... he was not a sucker....

A week later, he was no longer a registered user.


Larry "Bonaman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by sciencemonster on 10/8/2007 at 7:08:30 PM
Personally, it would be worth it for me to get a negative just to get a feedback like that.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Geoff Rogers on 10/11/2007 at 9:54:13 AM
I enjoy the feedback stuff. Mine is pretty much pristine, but last year I felt obliged to give a negative to a guy in France who won an auction and did not respond to repeated emails and invoices from me. He later sent me an email, "Vous etes vraiment un cretin pour le feedback negatif!". I have never been called a cretin before, but to have the act preformed in French, well, that was certainly an unusual experience. I offered to retract the negative feedback if he would just tell me he did not really mean it, but he wouldn't do that, so it stands.
Geoff Rogers

AGE / VALUE:   Mr. Selbach! LOOK OUT FOR THAT TRUCK!!! posted by: Chris on 10/2/2007 at 10:25:23 AM
I saw a Selbach bicycle on e- bay the other day and it was offered for sale by a man I consider to be a old cycle god of sorts.
Hillary Stone! Who always offers a wonderful assortment of goodies that make the blood run in excitement!
I love the history lessons he gives us as we read his listing descriptions. He always has the best and rarest stuff and with well written and concise accurate descriptions.

I was reading the listing for the Selback bicycle and Hillary tells us that poor Mr. Maurice Selbach who made some of the best bicycles in the 20's and 30's had a fatal accident while astride his bicycle. He got his wheel caught in a tramline or trolley track and that he was run over by a lorry, which is a British word for a truck.
Yikes! I'm sickened. Looking at that masterpiece of bicycles and reading what happened to the man.
I paused and bowed my head. We lost a great man so many years ago. Selbach bikes continued on and I am saving up for a Selbach bicycle.

FOR SALE:   Parts for sale posted by: David Poston on 9/30/2007 at 1:27:37 PM

Listing hard-to-find and rare English 3-speed parts for sale over the next couple weeks. Check it out.


   RE:FOR SALE:   Parts for sale posted by J U on 10/2/2007 at 3:20:50 PM
I'm currently on the hunt for a vintage stem, circa '50s-'60s or so, lugged chromed or enameled steel 22.2mm with a 25.4mm bar clamp, NOS or used, medium-high end street level to entry level professional and maybe lugged 531 Reynolds tubing. Got any??

   RE:FOR SALE:   Parts for sale posted by Mark on 10/2/2007 at 5:45:35 PM
Would you happen to have a 24t (or more) sprocket for the Sturmey Archer hub?

Fingers crossed,


   RE:FOR SALE:   Parts for sale posted by David Poston on 10/3/2007 at 11:25:54 AM
No, sorry, I don't have these parts.


AGE / VALUE:   B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by: Chris on 9/30/2007 at 5:02:24 AM
Using the Cyclo cog adaptor still, on the B.S.A. Paratrooper bicycle. I like the 24 tooth low gear cog. The snap ring came off and I wish I was using the older style threaded type. This would not happen with the threaded type. But we pay a price for easy removal...

The cable got hung up, it was folded with the gear cable still attached.
So, stuck in 4 th gear....

The f.w. axle is really not long enough and with the rear rack, and with spacing issues, it's useable but not ideal.

You have to pull out the indicator chain hard to engage low or bottom gear and that is a pain as well.

I discovered that the bus only runs one way and so I did a very long jaunt and I over did it.

No police pulling me over because I'm 3 miles over the limit during the end of the month ticket quota period and not paying for gas is refreshingly nice.

I am moving soon for the winter. I will not endure any more Michigan winters.
The cable arrangement that one has with derailer gears is better that the unreliable Sturmey- Archer type.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Matthew on 10/1/2007 at 12:31:43 AM
please explain? "No police pulling me over because I'm 3 miles over the limit during the end of the month ticket quota period"

I really don't understand that at all?

Matthew - bemused.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/2/2007 at 2:11:50 AM
'tis somewhat of a humerous reference to the speed Chris was rolling at.

It has long been purported that local constabulary have a "quote" of traffic summonses to meet every month. Hence, we all dot our I's and cross our T's during the last week of the month... because that is when the police will be trying to "make up" for any perceived shortcomings to their quota.

Desperate to meet that quota... they may even pull over a cyclist for speeding.

Of course Police everywhere will tell you... there's no official quota... i.e., "radar for revenue" does not exist.

However... let's face it... being able to probably write a minimum of 5 summonses a day based on my observations just on my commute, if a police officer did NOT write a certain amount of traffic summonses per month... it pretty much would indicate that he's not doing his job!

So...it would seem that Chris, during his velocipede perambulations, was exceeding the posted limit by a dubious 3 mph. I'm not sure if a cyclist could be picked off using police radar.... but one never knows! ;-)


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Chris on 10/2/2007 at 10:22:52 AM
Larry explained perfectly, but I have not been pulled over on a bike in decades. Being on a bike is liberating because of all the agrivating things one no longer has to deal with now that you are on a bike. Car related things, so to speak. It's been my experience if you are out in the car any time during the daytime and especially in the evening or past 10 p.m. towards the end of the month, you are running a highly unacceptable risk of recieving a ticket. A ticket for something, anything and the something will be determined by the officer. They have a certain number of tickets to write in a given period that usually ends at the end of a month or two or three month period and I can just look up and witness the frenzy of folks getting pulled over like crazy and witness the surge of red and blue lights and folks everyplace getting pulled over and I ask my pal: What date is this? When I see the frenzy, it's usually near the end of the month.

If you are going out after 8 p.m and especially after 10 p.m until sunrise you are a suicidal nut asking for a ticket or two tickets. Cops everyplace and there are fewer drivers and more cops and so you get pulled over. They are patroling looking for drunk drivers and with the number of bars oversearving patrons this is also a concern. "I'm not drunk, officer" "Yeah, but you are out kinda late" he says. I stay home in my little bed and don't deal with drunks or cops and I'm safe at home before 10 p.m. by choice.
Towards the end of the month,
I stay at home, don't drive, or ride with pals who do not believe me and I watch them get pulled over. I ride the bike. I deliberately plan to be off the road.
How one drives, how well you obey the trafic laws is totally irelevant. I have had them tail me and then pull me over for going too slow and then pull me over if I go two or three miles over the limit. He had tickets to write and acted like his tail and job was on the line. Whole areas are avoided because of speed traps. "Doing some fundraising this evening, officer?" The $115.00 ticket is not so bad and I'd pay it and be done with the silly bother but her ticket carried points that are the problem. The speed trap was excellently planed with the lady cop waiting to strike like a spider in her web. I asked if I could be written up for something that does not carry the points and she wrote it for something else and so, I still contributed $145.00 towards their fundraising effort. Usually you get the points as well as the fine.

Being on a bike is a whole different experience. I'm free.

Except you have to obey the laws as they relate to cyclists but the main thing is you can forget the police but have to watch out for drivers who act like a cyclist has no rights at all. They give you no room, honk horns, yell, and so on.
Posts set in concrete on bridges, squirrels, animals, gravel, apples, and acorns on the paths, tree droppings, and a whole host of issues to deal with while on the bike. Then there are mechanical breakdowns and broken glass is everyplace.

You can save that 50.00 and keep it in your wallet because there is not gasoline to buy, now that you are on the bike but save it for tubes, tires, cables, and bike expenses of all sorts.

Accidental death life insurance policy is a great idea. I'm going to "buy the farm" while out on my bike. The drivers don't realize a cyclist has a right to the road as well.
I'm having a really enjoyable time out on the bike dispite all my cracy tales and complaining. I will stick with the B.S.A. Airborne bicycle as my main commuter bike. I have a orange and yellow safety vest on and now that they can see me, the idiots in cars yell to scare you even more.
So totally awesome that it has 26 inch wheels and that it folds in half!
I'm watching the WW2 story on t.v. with Ken Burns on P.B.S. and watching for scenes with the B.S.A. Paratrooper or Airborne bicycles.


   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Chris on 10/2/2007 at 10:49:00 AM
At the end of the driveway, after you just bought 62.00 worth of gasoline BEFORE you pull out onto the roadway. Just imagine that there is a big red stop sign. Now, obey that imaginary stop sign and dead on stop. Now pull out and make your turn and continue on down the road. The person behind you will think you are nuts and honk at you but guess what? You just saved yourself a ticket called: "Falure to stop at the end of a private drive"
Bet you didn't know that!
Nobody stops at the end of a gas station except me. When I drive and get gas.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Chris on 10/2/2007 at 11:01:14 AM
Riding down the road, my windows are rolled up but the air conditioning is on in the car. The people in the car right in front of us are smoking pot and their window is down. The stinky smoke is sucked up into my car and I comment that the people in front of us are smoking pot. I roll down my windows. It is a weird experience. Also, cigar smoke.

I asked a cop one time. Officer, ever follow a car and have this happen to you?

"Yes, I have."

What do you do?
(Without missing a beat, and with gleaming determination in his eye, he immediately answers)

"We nail em!"

I have no doubt whatsoever, that they do.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Chris on 10/2/2007 at 1:14:01 PM
After about 10 minutes the bus driver made a motion with his hands and asked if it folds, "like this?"

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 10/3/2007 at 2:28:04 AM
LOL... Chris... and anyone else that may find it interesting and funny even.... whilst riding on a motorcycle one can even determine that the person in the car in front of them... has broken wind....

As far as smoke... etc... Usually it's nasty... other times... divine... but that is the curse of the former smoker.


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   B.S.A. Airborne bicycle posted by Matthew on 10/3/2007 at 11:01:20 AM
We have the smiley face radar sign which dispalys 'your speed' and a smiley face if you are under the limit. They move the signs around to give motorists a wake up call. I was doing 24mph the other day on my way back from one of my professional visits. I was ridng UP hill! Yipee, fit as a butcher's dog, thats me.

Matthew - only 24 miles an hour!