ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by: andy on 2/28/2007 at 10:20:23 AM
I know this isn't "english" per se, but I've been offered a Chinese flying pigeon roadster for sale (haven't agreed on a price)... they're slow and heavy but might be fun for a grocery-mobile. Anyone ridden one, and can comment on the build quality? They're apparently based on a 1932 raleigh.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by Bryan on 2/28/2007 at 3:21:39 PM
Whenever this has been discussed in the past, the general opinion is to stick with Raleigh made cycles.

I don't have first hand knowledge of how the flying pigeon rides.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by Andy on 2/28/2007 at 4:11:49 PM
Well, he wrote back and said he wants $400, but a new one can be had for less on eBay: 180091068490

Too rich for my blood! I'll just stick with my raleigh. If I see one at a yard sale or something, maybe?


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by Warren on 2/28/2007 at 6:14:40 PM
They are generally a POS. Poor quality and replacement parts will be difficult to get.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by Chris on 2/28/2007 at 8:43:37 PM
No. Don't do it.
Find a real Raleigh off of e- bay.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by paul on 3/1/2007 at 8:32:23 AM
I had a Chinese Raleigh Looks and graphics were beautiful. The saddle was terrible. I sold it for $75 with very low miles.....IMHO stay with Brit cycles and avoid Chinese/ Indian machines lacking long term build quality. paul

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by andy on 3/1/2007 at 10:16:42 AM
I wrote him back and said no go.

I think the only reason I was curious is that there are never true 28" roadsters for sale around here (san francisco) and I'm 6'3". But I did buy a 26" wheel raleigh two weeks ago and have been having a fine time with it, it's not gigantic but it feels pretty comfortable.

There's probably a good reason we don't see Flying Pigeons on the streets of San Francisco.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by Bryan on 3/1/2007 at 5:10:12 PM
Good to hear you passed on it Andy. Keep looking, you'll find your 28" Raleigh. 1970's versions can be had quite inexpensively on ebay and other places....its the shipping the can add up quickly.

Berkelely seems to be more of the English bicycle town than San Francisco. Plus, the old hippie recycling and community spirit is still alive and well in the Eastbay. Maybe check with a shop in Berkelely that deals with college students?

Or even cruise the streets of Berkeley on trashnight towards the end of the spring sememster when all the kids are graduating and leaving their old roadsters behind. Worked for my brother in Boston.

Just keep your eyes open, one will turn up when you least expect it. Thats the way the old bike world has worked for me. Good luck!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by boogers on 3/1/2007 at 6:30:16 PM
I've found one in SF and one in Santa Cruz, so far over the past few years. They turn up on CL once in a while. A few months ago there was a real nice 70s one for $200. Just check CL every few days.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by andy on 3/2/2007 at 10:15:03 AM
Thanks for the tips... I'd posted a want-ad on Craigslist in Feb. and a guy came very close to selling a fairly clean Phillips rod-brake roadster, but for some reason he decided not to sell, so I bought the LTD-3. I'll keep my eyes peeled...

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by C. Hammond on 3/3/2007 at 1:01:26 AM
You can see a Flying Pigeon here at The City Bicycle, one of my must-read blogs:


Scroll down to April 10th. I spotted this bicycle myself, u-locked outside a tasty Berkeley gelatteria. By the time I saw it, the saddle had been lifted. Rust creeping in. And next time, it was gone....


   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Flying Pigeon opinions? posted by Ian on 1/13/2008 at 2:18:09 PM
Flying Pigeon Bicycles can be seen at:
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ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Chainguard Fitting Fabrication posted by: C. Hammond on 2/27/2007 at 7:36:36 PM

The bicycle at hand is a '58 Phillips-made Grand Champion. You can see a similar bicycle here (very nice one, at that):


If you scroll down four photos to the close-up shot of the bottom bracket, you'll see the clamp I'm missing. It's the one the holds the front of the chainguard to the frame. The fitting looks very much like a Raleigh-style clamp. But I thought I'd ask the group, the 3-speed bicycle brethren, if you will, for input.

So, will a Raleigh clamp make do, or should I endeavor to make my own? I wonder what materials I can use...


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Chainguard Fitting Fabrication posted by Warren on 3/1/2007 at 4:34:03 PM
The raleigh clamp should do fine. I know I've got a couple but have been unable to find them since we moved 5 months ago. Anyone else?

MISC:   1957 graphics (VBG) posted by: old_alfie on 2/27/2007 at 2:29:06 PM
Gents, I've searched the oldroads site to no avail and can't believe this hasn't come up before. Is anyone offering modern waterslide or vinyl decals to match (or even to just come close if trademark issues are at stake)the old Raleigh graphics?

"Made in England" in a script is on my top tube and I suspect it was probably silk screened originally. "RALEIGH SPORTS" in a block lettering again probably silk screened is on each side of the down tube. There are a couple of heraldic decals on the seat tube and of course a heraldic decal on the rear mudguard just above the white.

While it'd be wonderful to be able to renew each of those originals but the more practical thing would be to apply new.

Any help from you guys who've been tending these bikes much longer than I have been?

   RE:MISC:   1957 graphics (VBG) posted by Matthew on 2/27/2007 at 3:08:56 PM
Hi there,

This subject is like the winter, it comes around every now and then. Lloyds Cycles have a large stock of elderly decals and transfers. Google them and check their stock. or you could try the same for classic transfers.

Matthew - stick with it.

   RE:RE:MISC:   1957 graphics (VBG) posted by Tom on 2/27/2007 at 4:02:53 PM
There is some showing up on Ebay every week or two. The sellers are from Taiwan or close to there. I bought from them before.

   RE:MISC:   1957 graphics (VBG) posted by pete on 2/27/2007 at 5:30:35 PM
Forget about the ones on ebay, look closely you will see that many are not right in style or design.Do as Matthew suggests go Lloyds cycles.On his and others advice combined with Googling bike decals and searching for weeks I ordered from him for a 1934 Raleigh and although some are not to the critical eye "perfect" I believe they are as close as you will find. He even went to the trouble of doing some one offs for me at not silly prices.Be warned though he seems to be a busy man and may take some time to get back to you.
Good luck Pete.

   RE:MISC:   1957 graphics (VBG) posted by old_alfie on 2/27/2007 at 9:43:02 PM
Thanks guys. Searching here for Lloyd Cycles brought up many archive entries. I googled them and found their site.

A logical question might be why I don't see a link on this site to Lloyds? On the face of it such a source would seem to fit perfectly with the ostensible purpose of this site.

BTW, for personal reasons I don't use ebay so likely I do miss out finding things that way. In any event, I'll make good use of this Lloyds decal list. Thanks again,

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Small Parts posted by: Ted on 2/25/2007 at 11:13:56 PM
I just purchased two NOS Velox rubber dynamo wheel covers (colors available)@$1.98 each and a couple of adaptors to change a Miller headlamp to fit on the Raliegh light brackets. Pricey ar $10.00 apiece but I was tired of searching. Paint them gray and they look authentic. Yellow Jersey in Wisconsin has them and more. See their web page. Ted

WANTED:   Sturmey brake parts posted by: David on 2/24/2007 at 10:17:12 AM
I need either a complete 36-hole AB hub (drum brake), or just the non-rotating brake part including the disc that the parts mount on with the reaction arm. The one I have has the cable anchor broken off. Reply to beandk at r c n dot c o m.