AGE / VALUE:   robin hood lenton sports posted by: jason r on 3/27/2007 at 4:22:57 PM
I just bought a frame that has a robin hood badge (raleigh,,i know) and says "lenton sports" on it. were these 3 speeds or ten. and when did they cease making them? thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   robin hood lenton sports posted by CHRIS on 3/27/2007 at 5:37:54 PM

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   robin hood lenton sports posted by Ron on 3/27/2007 at 8:12:11 PM
This is likly not the Lenton Sports you are thinking of. I have the matching bike that I tore down for conversion to a 3 speed. The frame is identical to a late 70's 3 speed I have. It was a 10 speed and the frame is 1030 steel. If you want the parts to build yours to original I am only missing the wheels and freewheel for a full bike. It isn't worth shipping but Im in Newton, MA if you are local.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   robin hood lenton sports posted by ralph in florida USA on 4/8/2007 at 11:21:39 AM
I recently emptied out my moms storage space & there was a Robin Hood, single speed, made in "ENGLAND" black & white womans bicycle. I would say its from the 70's. Its not in bad shape & I was wondering what it might be worh before I put it up for sale. Thanks, Ralph (FLORIDA)

AGE / VALUE:   Ebay DynoHub price posted by: Warren on 3/25/2007 at 4:33:36 PM
Maybe I will retire off the proceeds of my Dynohubs. Look at what this one got and it's a '71!

Chopper guys bidding perhaps? I think they want 28 hole units.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ebay DynoHub price posted by Tom on 3/25/2007 at 7:13:49 PM
He charges a record high dollar for shipping to you also.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ebay DynoHub price posted by Chris on 3/26/2007 at 5:55:07 AM
Yes, somebody wants their bike finished right now and they ain't gonna wait. This is used too, not even in new condition or is it?

I have Chopper 28 hole front rims in my stash.

Silly high price on this hub.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Ebay DynoHub price posted by David on 3/27/2007 at 3:25:47 PM
Strong argument for B-I-G and multiple pictures!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Bike info. posted by: Ken Hill on 3/24/2007 at 7:10:14 PM
recently bought beautiful Raleigh Sports at police auction.
Authentic Nottingham badge, excellant placards. Most parts
stamped made in England or Raleigh logo. No date on SA AW hub. Brooks vynil saddle. S/N makes no sense. Placard on seat tube: Mfg under license Raleigh Malaysia. What?????

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Raleigh Bike info. posted by Matthew on 3/30/2007 at 10:20:30 AM
Hi There Ken,

The bike says it all, built in Malaysia in one of TI's other factories, a Raleigh by name and design but not a Nottingham product.

Enjoy what you ride; ride what you enjoy.

Matthew - saddle up and ride out!

AGE / VALUE:   1967 Raleigh Superbe Brooks Saddle "attempted" Restoration posted by: Jeffrey Manta on 3/24/2007 at 3:34:22 PM
Well, I wish I has asked you folks a few questions before I started on this project, but you know how it is. I recently acquire a all original 67'Superbe that was almost mint except for the seat. Which was severly cracked and splayed apparently from water damage. Well, after reading a few posts I thought I merely had to soak the weathered old brooks in Lexol and it would be magically restored. I sprayed the top and bottom liberally and let it sit for an hour. I came back sprayed a bit more on and when I started to gently rub it in with my fingers they went through the seat destroying it. My question is simple. Did I go about this the right way and the seat was merely toasted or was there a better recipe or formula for success. Let me know. thanks guys

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1967 Raleigh Superbe Brooks Saddle posted by David on 3/24/2007 at 5:42:30 PM
Saddles are often ruined by leaving them out in the rain to soak and then dry out. I'm unaware of any surefire way to save a saddle that's in bad shape. I've had a few simply split and some that I've been able to keep using after putting Brooks Proofide on them.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1967 Raleigh Superbe Brooks Saddle posted by jeffrey on 3/25/2007 at 10:28:33 AM
Sorry about all spelling and grammatical errors in my previous post, my posts are starting to look like the emails I get from Nigeria. Thanks for the Info David. I guess I was hoping someone would tell me whether or not soaking a old dry and cracked water damaged seat in Lexol is inherently a bad idea. The seat was useable in it's dried out condition, and now that I ripped a hole in the center it's more of a wall ornament. Should I have tried the proofhide instead? Would it have soften with use? thanks again.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1967 Raleigh Superbe Brooks Saddle posted by David on 3/27/2007 at 3:23:35 PM
It probably would soften some, but it might have torn just the way it did anyway. My feeling is that, for a daily rider, get a good new or used one and be careful of it. They're not cheap, but a good B72 is a very comfy saddle!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by: Pete on 3/21/2007 at 4:22:00 PM
Hi all, If you have been reading the posts recently you will have read my tale entitled " A tale I had to share" Scroll down through the messages if you haven't to read it if you so desire.
Today I went back to see the "old guy" from the tale and came home with the bikes and lamp.We spent several enjoyable hours together chatting about local history and the bikes etc and he dug out many interesting artefacts from the sheds to show me as well as old local newspapers with adverts from the bike suppliers where the bikes came from originally.He is going to write down all the history of the bikes (1926 Rudge and a 1934 New Hudson) and as many names and as much info as he can so I can keep the information with the bikes and research further if needed.
The Hudson is all there but has suffered from the usual abuse and corrosion and is going to take a lot of work to make it beautiful again(sadly it is in such a state that a full restoration is the only option) The Rudge is dropdead gorgeous.It is still in the green that it was painted during its time in the homeguard.I haven't decided yet as to which way to go with the Rudge,make it road legal and ride it as is,restore it fully in its original colour or restore it and replicate its wartime livery.Some of your input would be appreciated on this subject.
The Rudge metal and tinware is in fantastic condition for its age with no holing or weakness anywhere and despite its lack of brakes still rides really well.Get your thinking caps on out there and suggest what to do with the Rudge as at the moment I can't seem to come to a decision.
To see the finds from the shed go to:
Cheers Pete.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Warren on 3/21/2007 at 7:41:55 PM
The valanced fenders on the Rudge are amazing. Similar to the Rudge motorbikes of the day. Unique!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Chris on 3/21/2007 at 8:24:53 PM
Those are a couple of fine machines. I think that with a bike as complete as the Rudge, you should really restore it to original. What a great addition to your collection! Well found. Good luck!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by sam on 3/22/2007 at 9:12:32 AM
I'd just clean the rudge.That's the original war green---Like an original factory color the OD green painted during the war can't be had again---that's the real history of this bike.That's what seperates it from other Rudges---keep it's war history alive!---sam

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Geoff Rogers on 3/22/2007 at 10:29:16 AM
Pete, I am with Sam. Restore the Rudge and destroy all its peidgree, its provenance (note that there is no apostrophe in "its" in the possessive form). Anybody can restore an old bicycle, painting it so it looks "like new" but it will only ever be that: "Like" new. Better to preserve the history with that ugly old olive drab green paint.
I even try to save original tires, as the new ones are so different from anything the cycles came with. My daily rider, a '66 Dunelt with 28 inch wheels and rod brakes, has a 1969 Dunlop tire on the front with an original Dunlop tube. My '53 Raleigh Superbe has a pair of Dunlops that came from a '54 Rudge I sold some years ago. They still look like new, and have original Airseal tubes that don't leak (much). These are made from a length of rubber tubing, curved around and glued together, much like a snake swallowing its own tail. No mould marks anyplace!
Geoff Rogers
Minister of Patina
Shutesbury, Massachusetts

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by P.C. Kohler on 3/22/2007 at 12:58:03 PM
The Rudge in question is their "All-Weather" roadster with its distinctive valanced mudguards and the fact that it was originally entirely enamelled with no chrome. About two years there was a amazingly mint example of one of these on eBay (UK) which fetched not nearly as much as I think it should have... maybe £430. The amount of boxlining on these was impressive indeed. A superb machine. Me, I'd keep her original. Afterall, being a Coventry-built machine, she's best seen when doing her bit during the war considering what happened to her birthplace...

P.C. Kohler

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Matthew on 3/22/2007 at 1:38:45 PM
I can't add much here, so I won't.
Keep the Rudge as she is. Listen to Peter Kohler, he is the Wizard of Rudge.

Matthew - nice shed by the way, is it modelled on a certain abode in Norfolk?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Pete on 3/22/2007 at 2:49:58 PM
Peter Kohler
Would you or indeed anybody else happen to have or know where I can find an image of the Rudge as it would have looked when it left the factory? It would be nice to see what it looked like in its original state.I have had no luck all week searching for pics.The jury is still out regarding what to do with it.At the moment I think I will follow advice and clean up and ride it at least until I have all the information and or images that would be needed if it was decided to return it to its original state.
Shed came cheap from down the road (used) and lined out foc with chipboard that a mate was getting rid of.A shed built in the true west country tradition of avoiding buying anything new!
Thanks All Pete.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by P.C. Kohler on 3/23/2007 at 5:21:39 AM
Well I wish I had a scanner still as I could scan the catalogue (1938) page I have for this. Of course later than your machine but these things didn't change much! But it's essentially your bike just freshly dipped (remember they sprayed nothing!) in glorious British Bike Black. Everything was black. And everything coachlined with Rudge's distinctive twin gilt lines.

Where in the Glorious West are you located?

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Pete on 3/23/2007 at 12:22:29 PM
Shame about the scanner I would love to see that page especially the location and design of the lines.Could I be really cheeky and ask if you had a digital camera so as to enable an image to be retreived from the catalogue? Still no luck with my search of such an image.I'm going to dig the bike out the weekend and give it a full and proper appraisal and hopefully get it to a roadworthy state.
Located in the UK, Somerset, where the cider apples grow!
I assumed you were USA?
Thanks again Pete.


   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by P.C. Kohler on 3/23/2007 at 2:05:55 PM
e-mail with your address, I'll photocopy the catalogue page and post to you.

Somerset... my British wife has a cottage in East Devon (nr. Sidmouth) but we live in the US most of the time. With the hills around there, a Rudge like this (which must weigh just shy of 42 pounds I reckon) would be best propped up against a stone wall most of the time!

If you did decide to repaint completely, she'd look amazing but good luck in finding someone who can try and duplicate the deep but not glassy, rich gloss of dipped enamel. Far too many "restorers" just use Imron which is simply too glossy. I think on these all-weather roadsters even the rims were coach lined.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by Pete on 3/23/2007 at 4:37:46 PM
Thank you so much for your effort and kindness it really is appreciated.As you have probably gathered I am a bit of an eccentric when it comes to old bikes and no effort or time is too much to invest in an old bike as far as I am concerned.We all have a soft spot for something,,,mine for some reason is old bikes.Luckily I am a (very fussy) paint sprayer/panel beater by trade so I had already given a thought to the problem of ending up with a bike that looked too glassy should I wish to put her back to original.This problem could if needed be overcome by lacquering the bike (after the lines had been done) with a 20% addition of matting base added to the lacquer to take that glassy sheen off the finish.The last roadster I done took over 2 days to replicate the red and gold lines as per original.I anticipate the Rudge to take the same effort if not more if done.
I live on the edge of the Mendip Hills so a bike ride always starts or ends with a big uphill struggle,one of those things you just get used to I guess.
Thanks again for your sterling effort Pete.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: The pics from A tale I had to share update posted by David Scott on 3/29/2007 at 12:48:20 AM
Hi, I bought a Rudge off e-bay here in the UK. It's been dated by the Rudge registrar to May 1926, it's got the correct Rudge "M"section rims, Rudge brakes but has a 1937 3 speed hub and drum brake fitted. It's been quite well done but the really interesting part is it has a lugless frame!! Only model with a frame like that seems to be the "Aero Special" I'd appreciate any details of specification for an Aero Special, or even just a picture as I'm trying to put it back to as near original as possible, bearing in mind the hub ( which is laced into the correct 28" Rudge" rim) was changed 70 years ago!!