AGE / VALUE:   found the car I want posted by: sam on 2/19/2008 at 10:33:11 AM
Check out the Raleigh Safty Seven

   RE:AGE / VALUE: found the car I want posted by Matthew on 2/20/2008 at 11:47:33 AM
Both Raleigh and Reliant vehicles come up on eBay from time to time. My Friend two villages away has a James van with the vee-twin engine and girder front forks. The Reliant version of the Raleigh van was the Regent van, with an Austin 7 engine. Followed later by the Regal in at least 5 marks before the 325 and 330 (inc Supervan I, II & III). All except the Regent had Reliant's own aluminium engine. From the 325 onwards it was 700cc (42Cu in) and grew to 850cc (51 cu in) in the Robin and Rialto.

The scimitar was the offspring of the Sabre. The sports cars were always Ford engined gentlemn's sport cars with glass fibre (GRP) bodies and steel chassis from the Sabre to the Scimitar SS1. Using staright six Ford 150 Ci un engines followed by the ultra reliable Ford Essex v6 180 cu in. with 4 speed and overdrive gearbox or auto transmission.

The little four wheelers were the Rebel, a four wheeled contemporary of the Regal 325 / 330 and the Kitten a four wheeled copy of the Robin. The kitten was an underrated and expensive alternative to most British small cars being light, economical and fast.The final baby four wheeler was the Fox, there is one on eBay right now.

Matthew - motoring.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   found the car I want posted by Chris. on 2/19/2008 at 1:16:51 PM
I saw one up for sale in England a few years ago. The original hood ornaments were cheap pot metal and replacements are now offered in solid brass because they last longer and don't get broken.

I found one in a junkyard in Pontiac, Michigan in 1982 but they would not sell it but I got to observe and I lent papers and got to ride in it after it was restored.
I was particularly smitten by the Raleigh Carryall myself.

I never did learn what happened to the Raleigh prototype car that is shown in the book but I did get to speak by telephone to Gregory Houston Bowden who wrote "The Raleigh Story."

This stuff became the Reliant 3 wheel car company.
Seeing the Pride and Clarke motorcycle ads for bubble cars in the back of magazines was a gateway to magical stuff!

Do a wikipedia search for: Pride and Clarke


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   found the car I want posted by Chris on 2/19/2008 at 1:23:16 PM
Well acquainted with Austin as well...

Thanks for sharing this here!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   found the car I want posted by Steve on 2/20/2008 at 4:23:16 AM
I often wondered what the background to Reliant I know ! Very interesting.

Where on earth did the inspiration come from for the Reliant Scimitar ? Surely not the Raleigh drawing boards.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: found the car I want posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/22/2008 at 3:57:20 PM
Back when I was a kid, we had a next door neighbor that was a bit of an eccentric.... amongst other things... he lost count as to how many clocks he had... well over one hundred... and also an innumerable number of cars... an Astin Martin... a SINGER (That was wild!) a Morgan three wheeler, etc.

He also had a number of lawnmowers. Mor than 30 I would guess....

Anyhow... he was one of those that would backroads tour different places in the world and once whilst in the UK he came across a sign that said: Allet. The finest lawnmower in the world.

Having piqued his curiousity... he jus rode on over to the factory... to ask the powers that be why the thought there machine was such...

His conclusion was quite simply... they ARE the finest lawnmower in the world. Or were.. at that time. I would say around 1968

Anyhow... this fellow, Arthur Weiss.... has three of these machines shipped back to the states.... to see if he could modify them for cutting grass here. As in the UK when the grass gets 1/2 inch high... they cut it back to 1/4" (or thereabouts...)

Alas.. the machine was so finely made and designed... it could not be modified as it would overbalance and tip over.

So... one ended up at Rutgers University (for what I don't recall) the other ended up at some prestigious lawn tennis club in South Jersey... and upon Arthur's demise... my dad got the third.

Powered... by the 4 cylinder, water cooled RELIANT engine.... 4 speed trans... with REVERSE... simply an amazing machine.

Alas... I believe it may still be mouldering away in the back yard of the house we had in Lk Hopatcong NJ when I was in high school.

A shame actually... it was absolutely a beautiful piece of machinery.

Here's the exact machine...

I need to see if I can contact the author of the article... as it would seem I have a bit of knowledge... a LITTLE "bit"... that he has not.


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: found the car I want posted by Bones on 2/24/2008 at 8:50:50 AM
Good comment

Larry "the harrasser" boneman

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: found the car I want posted by Chris on 2/27/2008 at 11:25:34 AM
I remember all the lawnmowers and parts in the Brown Brothers catalogs...

AGE / VALUE:   Odd English Hercules frame on ebay posted by: sam on 2/18/2008 at 10:34:25 AM
I've seen the double bar frames before but never the truss forks.Has old style Hurcules badge and BB oiler.
Wonder if it is a Canadian bike/or english built and canadian sold???



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Odd English Hercules frame on ebay posted by Chris on 2/18/2008 at 2:07:48 PM
Thanks for sharing this with us. Interesting. I never saw these in Canada

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Odd English Hercules frame on ebay posted by Don on 2/18/2008 at 11:16:29 PM
160209771736 Item number, it must be the same, I've seen this fellow's auctions before. good point.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dyno hub. posted by: Spike on 2/16/2008 at 4:13:14 PM
Working on my 55 Sports S.A. Dyno hub.Which side of the bike does it go on?Any trick/problems to look out for.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Dyno hub. posted by Joe on 2/17/2008 at 3:20:55 AM
The Dyno goes on the right side of the bike. Also make sure the axle is assembled with the fixed cone on the right, and the adjustable cone on the left.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dyno hub. posted by Steve on 2/17/2008 at 2:02:16 PM
Coincidentally I'm also working on a Dyno hub (for the first time), this one is a 62 S/A AG model.
I'm not really that concerned about the electrical side of things, I'm actually trying to cure the free play at the rim ! It just happens to be a dyno hub on the bike.

I thought it would simply be a case of tightening the adjustable cone on the left......this made no difference whatsoever.

As I was only getting two gears out of the three careless how much I adjusted things, I decided to do a transplant with the innards from a 1970 AG model.
When I opened up the original hub it became fairly evident why things were not to good......chipped planet pinions !

Anyhow (having never done this before) I plodded on and fitted the 1970 workings inside the 1962 casing, the outcome is fine but I've still got the free play at the rim ?

I have checked the cones and the bearing/cages and all looks fine although I must confess that I haven't got a micrometer out and started to measure things (I haven't even got a micrometer). Should I have to do this or can I presume that the original hub shell is worn where the bearings make contact ?

Today I tried four different used rear wheels and was still getting play at the rim........maybe you're supposed to get play at the rim ? if that's the case how come my wifes 62 bog standard AW 26" Raleigh doesn't get any play at the rim.

The bike I'm dealing with is a Raleigh 28" rodder and I'm determined to eliminate the play, I even tried a 26" Dyno-Four wheel today which looked pretty odd as I rode it up the street but was a lovely gear change even though I'd only got a three speed selector to play with and obviously no rear brakes.

Incidentally, I have stripped the dyno's out (which didn't drop out after removing the four long bolts - they needed assistance) ! I also fitted replacement pawl springs as the others were either broken or tired.......I'm now going to acquire a massive magnifying glass so that I can see what I'm actually doing next time !

Is there a magic formula to eliminate play at the rim or is it a case of re-build everything inside a used hub to get the tollerences to almost ex-works level ?

I would be interested in anyones comments if they have been down this particular road. Oh, by the way.. my dyno's are all on the left hand side (next to the adjustable cone), I'm calling the dyno the part with the magnet and armature inside it.

Steve - this is like being back at school again.....confusing at times but fascinated nevertheless !


   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Dyno hub. posted by Joe on 2/17/2008 at 7:05:32 PM
In my first reply I was referring to a front Dyno hub since a model number was not mentioned.
The rear Dynohub-3speed hubs do have the rotor on the left side of the bike.
If you go back and look at various catalog pics, a front dynohub has it's stator mounted on the right side of the bike. Which makes sense in order to allow for more room to access the adjustable cone which must go on the left side to prevent self-tightening as you ride.
It is also normal to see a minimal amount of play at the rim, in most cases over tightening of the bearings will cause some crank rotation when coasting.

Here's a few links to some more detailed info:


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dyno hub. posted by Steve on 2/18/2008 at 7:52:35 AM
Thanks, points taken. I have had the cranks rotating when coasting (not that I want to).
I didn't really want to disturb my wifes bike ( It's got just about everything attached to it that you could imagine and it runs so sweet) but I think I will borrow her back wheel when she's not looking and see what the rim play is like with that wheel attached (bearing in mind that it's near perfect on her bike) ?

Steve - not beaten yet (although I might be if she finds out)!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dyno hub. posted by David on 2/18/2008 at 9:45:39 AM
It doesn't matter which way the AG hub is mounted; the SA service manual has nothing to say on the matter and I've seen them both ways from the Raleigh factory and in Raleigh catalogs. On the rear hub, there IS play (but not a lot) in the bearings when they're properly adjusted. Quote: Cone adjustment is carried out on the LH cone (opposite to the sprocket) which automatically adjusts all the hub bearings. This cone should be adjusted so that ther is a just perceptible sideways movement at the wheel rim.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Dyno hub. posted by Mark on 2/22/2008 at 7:13:02 AM
Hmmm, the general knowledge (opinion) is dyno on the right because of auto-tightening issues. Interesting to see it challenged. The lack of mention in the manual is a pretty good piece of evidence.


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   55 sports grips posted by: Spike on 2/16/2008 at 6:31:33 AM
I'm about to select grips for my Sports project.
Mr Kohler sent pictures of his grips and they appear of fine quality.My problem is there is no circle insignia like that on my grips.There is a set of reproductions on Ebay 270124154435
Thailand, has circle insignia and appears nice with shipping would be the same or more than PCs Has anyone used these grips or their seller?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   55 sports grips posted by Tom on 2/16/2008 at 2:02:44 PM
I have a few pairs of those grips from Thailand. He usually has 2 pairs in 1 auction. Check Ebay daily for ths auction with 2 pairs. The grips are good quality. No problems with him.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 55 sports grips posted by Warren on 2/16/2008 at 4:27:30 PM
PC's are the most correct repro you'll ever find, the only real difference is that his are more comfortable, being made of more supple rubber. I have originals to compare against.

MISC:   Weight posted by: Tom on 2/13/2008 at 11:26:05 AM
Respectfully all and I do say this in the utmost respect for all; bicycles are great and all the lore that goes with them.

But running and I'm writing this on a bit of an aching foot, really can drop the pounds.

I guess what I am saying is maybe some people spend too much time in the mechanic shop.

Being overweight is related to so many health issues.

   RE:MISC:   Weight posted by Kevin on 2/13/2008 at 7:22:43 PM
Too many runners spend too much time with the orthopedic surgeon, getting their knees replaced.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Weight posted by Tom on 2/13/2008 at 7:48:27 PM
Well, there are risks in every thing, the cross trainers are another possibility.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Weight posted by tom on 2/13/2008 at 7:50:42 PM
by the way, I was reading Sheldon's blog, apparently in January, someone he knew well got broadsided on her bicycle! of all things, thankfully, there were no injuries, it was just scary. It was a woman's name so I am not sure of the relationship but we hear enough about bicycling accidents.

   RE:MISC: Weight posted by Ted on 2/13/2008 at 9:58:38 PM
If you have to drop weight, then its not a matter of running or riding,but merely a matter of pushing oneself away from the food. I've been riding and racing since high school and my weight is still the same (I'm 56). It's all about intensity. Whether you are riding or running doesn't matter as long as you are watching calories.And anyone can get hit by a car running or riding. Take up badminton if you are worried.

   RE:RE:MISC: Weight posted by Chris on 2/14/2008 at 3:45:10 PM
I was told that all the cycling in the world will not get rid of my belly and that I have to hit the treadmil and run on it.

Walking was recommended by my doctor yesterday.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC: Weight posted by Chris on 2/14/2008 at 3:58:59 PM
Cycling, especially on a lightweight vintage machineis too magical and special and healthful that no fear of getting hit by a car should stop you.
Learn to ride in traffic and be aware of your surroundings.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC: Weight posted by Joe on 2/15/2008 at 10:19:09 PM
I've been hit a few times, never anything serious. Every time there was far more damage to the car than to me or my bike. Usually it involved me kicking some part of the car either out of pure rage or to fend off a collision. The worst one was a time when some loser ran me off the road and onto some black ice covered driveway, which in turn led to me and bike being separated, with me jumping up rather quickly only watch my bike slide into a stone wall front wheel first. The driver did stop, but came at me yelling that it was all my fault and that he had no choice since the roads were too slick for him to chance trying to avoid me. I reacted back then (I was a lot younger), buy caving in his door and putting my fist through two windows. Called the police, they asked me if I wanted to press charges, then arrested him for driving on the revoked list.
I only left the incident with a sore fist, but the bike didn't fair as well, it was fully loaded and suffered a fatal blow to the forks and head tube. I rode it for a while after that, but it was never right again. Both the top and down tubes had bent, and forks came back about two inches. I straightened the forks, but the frame was pretty much hopeless. The car barely touched me, but the result was me heading off the road onto a private well coated and icy blacktop drive with a steep slope downhill towards the wall. If the wall wasn't there, I suppose the bike would have gone into a hedge row and survived much better, but I sort of intentionally got away from the bike knowing that there was no way to stop on the slick surface and really didn't want to kiss the stone wall myself. I wasn't going all that fast, but was heading downhill on a pretty steep decline, it was a cold morning with lots of ice and frost remaining from the night before, and just a light dusting of snow on the road. A plowed snow bank stopped me, I sort of rolled over it while the bike slid, glanced off the driveway berm and slid.

It was the end of one of my favorite bikes. I really wish I still had it, I ended up stripping it for parts back then, but today I would probably have had it fixed. It was nothing really special, but it was pretty clean. That was back in the late 70's when I was about 15, I was delivering newspapers and the bike was loaded to the max, four baskets and a rear kickstand, all on a vintage Dunelt, back then I never would have considered it a vintage bike, just a nice old bike that I bought at a yard sale for something like $5.I don't know if I or a bike today would fair so well, at almost a hundred pounds heavier and almost 30 years older. I had a short temper back then, but some restraint, I think in the same situation today, my restraint might be long gone if I were to lose a bike in that way today. Back then, they were a lot easier to replace, and bumps and bruises sure healed a lot faster. (Of course, I doubt if I'd be out in the cold or snow riding at speed trying to get someplace in a hurry on two wheels). My biggest mistake at that time was ignoring the front wheel itself, the axle snapped a few weeks later, and by the time I got home, I had destroyed entire hub, the bike spent the rest of it's life with a rusty used front wheel from an old Columbia parts bike. I never was sure what year it was, but from what I can remember about it now, it was probably a late 40's to early 50's model. The closest I have to that bike now is a pretty clean mid sixties Robin Hood.


   RE:MISC:   Weight posted by Bryan on 2/16/2008 at 11:13:45 PM
Ouch, watch that advice. I actually blew out my shoulder playing badminton, yet never received more than occasional bumps and bruises from a lifetime of cycling.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Weight posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/17/2008 at 5:44:44 AM
Cycling is wonderful excersize... IMHO. Not only that... but if you're in the right place... like a rail-trail, it can be most salubrious for the psyche as well.

ANY activity carries risk. That can also depend on the level and intensity of the sport. Cycling leisurely on a rail trail vs. riding an MTB down the face of a volcano at 80+ mph could be one example.

Everyone is built differently too. Some have knees of Iron... others, such as myself, have all sorts of wonderful degenerative joint diseases such as arthritis.

To quote Clint Eastwood... from one of his movies (I forget which) "A man's got to know his limitations." That of course applies to the ladies too.

I have recently pulled the "weapon" out of retirement and started once again to play Table Tennis with some folks at work. It's wonderful excersize.... but I need to remember that I no longer "bounce" as well as I used to.... so I really shouldn't dive for the ball anymore.

Yeah... tell that to my lightning fast reflexes... ;-)

So approach any new activity "intelligently". After all... if you've never been on skiis or a snowboard... you wouldn't go to the top of a mountain like Jay Peak... and try to descend via a double-diamond route!


Larry "Boneman" Bone