AGE / VALUE:old raleigh ladies bike posted by: stephen hogben on 4/11/2008 at 3:39:37 AM
I have just aquired a ladies "Light Roadster" raleigh bike. it has a frame number A603157 on it,but cannot find this in the records. It says on it by appointment to King George V.anybody got an idea of its age?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:old raleigh ladies bike posted by Geoff Rogers on 4/14/2008 at 7:01:10 AM
George V was succeeded in 1936 by Edward VII, who was, I believe, never crowned. Something about Mrs. Simpson (no relation to Homer). The "by appointment" labels refer to current royal customers, so your bike must be thirties or earlier.
But why would His Majesty be buying a lady's bicycle, I wonder?
Geoff Rogers

MISC:BROOKS Moving ? posted by: Stan L on 4/11/2008 at 3:10:59 AM
Anyone heard of Brooks moving it's saddle making to India A bike shop owner in town claims since Brooks production has fallen 60% in eight years due to costs they have plans to close operations in Engand within three years and move to india. Hope this is not true....would be the end of an era.

   RE:MISC: BROOKS Moving ? posted by Mike on 4/11/2008 at 5:17:25 AM
I heard this too. Don't know if it's true but I wouldn't be surprised. The product certainly has been cheapened since Sella took over ownership.

AGE / VALUE:   Restoring a Rudge posted by: Andrew on 4/10/2008 at 10:26:07 PM
I just started restoring an early 1960's(?) maroon Rudge Frame # 780 CC - is there a chart or other way to date this bike?

Does anyone have tips on how to find the following:
Accurate Paint color sample
Braised on Nipples for air pump (pair) - Both have been snapped off
John bull brake shoes 2 pair
Proper rear reflector
Mud guards (front & rear)
Full set of decals
Sturmey Archer light kit with dry battery holder for down tube for (AC - 9)dyno-three hub.
Rear chain guard cover Part number M405

Some time in the '70's this bike was sprayed with Krylon Yellow.
I am trying to figure out the best way to remove the yellow and preserve the maroon below. Acetone is to strong and turns the maroon to brown. A razor blade works but scratchs, sanding with fine automotive paper can be too deep too - any suggestions?

This bike has a gear case. Other than that, it is exactly the bike I grew up with and put thousands of miles on as a teenager. I just got it the other day and am looking forward to doing a decent restoration on it. All tips welcome.



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Restoring a Rudge posted by Larry on 4/12/2008 at 5:48:34 PM
Andrew, Check out EBAY, item # 360041700294; do a search under 'John Bull'. The offer is for four brake pads.

You may want to re-think your Rudge; there's a nice 1951 Humber- which looks in very good condition - offered on EBAY, item # 250233749262. Sometimes you can 'cannabalize (sp?) another bike for parts if you really don't want to part with your Rudge.

BTW, I've got a very good conditioned 1959 maroon Rudge myself out in Virginia. Check out LUGGEDFRAME.COM/bikes for some really excellent three speeds.

Hope this helps.



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Restoring a Rudge posted by Martin Sanders on 4/14/2008 at 1:49:28 AM
Andrew. Try "The Old Bicycle Company" a UK website they stock brand new Raleigh pattern mudguards made in the UK and not in India! Some Rudge decals are available from "Nick at Lloyds" another UK site. Most of what you require does come up on the auction sites its just a case of waiting your time.


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:sprockets posted by: brandt on 4/10/2008 at 6:41:36 PM
Is it possible to put 2 sprockets on a Sturmey Archer 3-speed? Generally they have one sprocket and 2 spacers. There is room for 2 sprockets, but when I put the snap ring on, the sprockets are slightly loose. I have tried putting thin metal shims between the two sprockets to make a tighter fit, but the whole thing pops off within a few block on the test ride. (Have installed a derailleur and am experimenting with 6-speed drive train) Does anyone have a way of successfully installing 2 sprockets?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: sprockets posted by sciencemonster on 4/11/2008 at 10:33:46 PM
I run two sprockets. Don't have any issues. Just leave it a bit loose, or try different sprockets til you find one slightly wider. I've tried running them with a shim, and they did the same thing - pop off in a block.

I've also run it with a Shimano and a thin plactic spacer, along with a SA cog. THat works too.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: sprockets posted by Ed on 4/12/2008 at 4:14:18 AM
I have found different drivers will have more or less space on them. The older ones may be a little deeper. Look through your spare parts. Ed

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by: Larry P on 4/10/2008 at 3:49:04 PM

Does anyone in this august group have any experience with changing the 18 tooth sprocket on an AW hub (Sturmey ARhcer) to a 23 tooth sprocket so as to lower the gearing for easier riding?

Any and all feedback most welcome!! Thanks.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by Steve on 4/10/2008 at 4:01:53 PM
Afraid not.

I've never seen a 23 tooth sprocket but I would presume it's a simple removal and replacement job.

I like the idea of sampling the difference in the lower gearing.


   Pass the pliers, Needlenose!! posted by Warren on 4/10/2008 at 4:20:09 PM
Assuming it's got the sprocket circlip and not the threaded driver, I use one or two small screwdrivers and fine, needlenose pliers. Prise it out using the screwdriver(s). Wear googles, that thing can fly. When replacing, I use a thumb to hold the clip over the edge, almost in place and use the pliers to pull the clip apart and over. That clip is just so much overkill.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by Larry P on 4/10/2008 at 4:47:19 PM
Has anyone experience with a 48/23 tooth setup? I've got a 48 tooth chainring and want to lower the gearing on the Sturmey ARcher so as to make a more easier-to-ride bike.


   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by Warren on 4/10/2008 at 6:56:48 PM
I don't quite know what you're asking. An EA3 wheel with an AW hub, 48 tooth chainring and 23 tooth cog will give you gear ratios of 40, 54 and 72 gear inches. They translate into really easy, easy and not too hard. It won't be like a granny gear on a mtn bike but it should help you climb most hills.

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 4/11/2008 at 2:24:03 AM
I've upped the ratio on one of my machines.... actually, I have a 22T cog for my DL1 that I've yet to install... But... as I recall, going to a larger cog... make sure you have a longer chain handy!

Best of luck!

Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by epicycler2 on 4/11/2008 at 6:00:15 AM
Yes, I installed a 23 tooth sram/sachs sprocket on a DL1 and was pleased with gear reduction for a bike used for town riding.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by Thom J. on 4/11/2008 at 1:06:24 PM
Larry P- Yes, I did. I put a 23T cog on my Raleigh Trent Sports which has the 597 bsd wheelset and tire combo. The gearing is similar to what Warren stated in his comment and with the use of Sheldon Brown's, may he rest in peace, on-line gear calculator I should have a low gear around 39". This is very close to the 39 x 28 combo on my Univega Super Strada and allows me to get up most of the hills in my area. Those I can't ride up, I use my two foot gear. I've been using this set-up since last summer and have had no problems with the combination. I did have to add a link of chain. My plans are to fit the guts of an FW 4 speed into the AW shell for a nice single chainring four gear road type bike. I scored a nice S/A 3 and 4 speed trigger that I'll use when I make the change. The nice thing is that you can easily remove the large cog and go back to the original or another tooth count. Give it a try, you might like it.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 23 Tooth sprocket for Sturmy Archer AW hub posted by sciencemonster on 4/11/2008 at 10:36:27 PM
Prepare yourself to add chain. I run 10/22 and 19/24 with a derailler - works great for hills.