ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Severly Need Help posted by: Lisa on 5/20/2008 at 4:17:34 PM
I recently purchased a Raleigh Super Course. Beautiful bike but it needs attention or more like an overhaul. Basically, I would like for the bike to retain its former glory but also bring it up to date. I have almost all the original parts(petals, friction shifters, etc.), but it needs new rims/wheels, and I'm not sure if the brakes would work with the new 700cc rims. I would like to keep it as a multiple gear bike 10 or 8 doesn't really matter too much. The small bike shop I took it to told me I would run into problems trying to maintain the 10 speed whilst restoring. The guy I bought it off of told me it was a 1971 or so. If you could impart some of your wisdom on this silly and barely knowledgeable bike enthusiast I would appreciate it immensely.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Severly Need Help posted by Warren on 5/20/2008 at 5:02:09 PM
Piece of cake...use original long reach dia-compe or weinmann centerpulls and it shouldn't be any problem at all. Slip in a borrowed rear wheel and mount the rear brake to test if you're worried at all. If by some fluke, the brakes don't reach there are many decent 27" wheels out there too.

Nothing lasts longer and is more available than friction 10 speed gear from the 70's. Cheap, easy to maintain...the only problem is finding a bike shop that is knowlegeable and respectful enough to not try and sell you a new bike when you don't want or need one. Most bike shops have wheels to suit this bike piled in the basement.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Severly Need Help posted by sam on 5/20/2008 at 7:39:35 PM
I agree with Warren,and will add that bikenashbar has 27" alum rims cheep tires too.so keeping your bike going is not a problem---finding a good bike shop might be---good luck---sam

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Severly Need Help posted by Steve on 5/21/2008 at 8:00:33 AM
I've used 700C wheels on a couple of Super Courses I've set up as club-type bikes, and found that the brakes are stretched to their adjustment limit. I'd suggest sticking with 27" wheels and laying in enough tires to last as long as you think/hope your knees will. Other than that, you won't find a more enjoyable vintage bike, particularly the "Mk II" frame.

AGE / VALUE:   Disaster! posted by: Stephen Hogben on 5/20/2008 at 1:48:43 PM
Can anybody help a complete idiot (with computers) tell me how to get my photos on line?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Disaster! posted by Lisa on 5/20/2008 at 4:28:26 PM
www.photobucket.com is a good place to start. You can upload your photos to it by browsing your files and then the website provides you with an embedding addresses for different needs. The one you should use for this site is the "image code." You copy that address into the little add a picture box and you should be good to go.


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Disaster! posted by Lisa on 5/20/2008 at 4:31:17 PM
ok image code didn't work, I checked it so I didn't lead you astray. Trying html code.

posted by: Matthew on 5/20/2008 at 10:53:18 AM
About Raleigh Bikes...

Raleigh Bicycles design, build and manufacture some of the best bikes in Britain. With it's long heritage and massively respected name - Raleigh bikes UK produce a fantastic range of mid price and top of the line cycles ranging from the now famous Raleigh BMX bike, Raleigh road racing bikes, touring bicycles, hybrid and comfort bikes as well as kids and children's cycle ranges. Check out the Raleigh bicycles history below if you are in any doubt about buying a bicycle and you'll see that Raleigh really care about their bicycles and their staff - which guarantees they are going to care about their customers!

Raleigh Bicycles - History Time line: Raleigh have come a long way since it began over a 100 years ago in a small street in Nottingham UK. Take a few minutes to discover the key dates in the history of Raleigh bikes and see how they became the massive name they are now!

In 1887, Sir Frank Bowden bought an interest in a small cycle company on Raleigh Street - Nottingham UK. The Raleigh Bike Company was started in 1890 and took the name of the street it was in.

In 1890 anew Raleigh bicycle factory was opened and was powered by a 16 gas engine and at this time the Raliegh bikes factory was the biggest bike building plant in the world! "Zimmy" Zimmerman becomes Raleigh bikes first world cycling champion. Zimmerman was a fun loving and agreeable guy who changed amateur cycle racing from a sport for wealthy people to a universal cycling sport. People were amazed with "Zimmy's" effort-less wins and incredible speed where he would defeat his competitors at the last minute.

1902: Sturmey Archer products became part of the Raleigh bicycle group. The Sturmey Archer three speed gear hub was the first practical gearing system and made available in 1903. This changed cycling!

By now The Raleigh bicycle company was designing and building 30000 bicycles every year and had many depots in UK and Ireland. Raleigh bikes UK were now known in Manchester, Belfast, Derby, Dublin and further and further afield.

1918: sees the celebration of Sir Frank's 70th birthday. 2000 Raleigh employees celebrated Sir Frank's birthday - the man who made Raleigh bikes at the Victoria Hall Nottingham.

1921: Sir Frank died and Raleigh Bikes was succeeded by son Sir Harold Bowden. Under his leadership Raleigh Bikes continued to lead the bicycle industry with lots of innovations and acquiring other well known cycle companies such as Humber bikes, Rudge bikes, BSA bikes and Triumph motorbikes. In 1924: The biker Hugh Gibson rides 3429 miles round Britain in twelve days on a 7 hp Raleigh motorbike.

1926: The Duke of York - later to be King was shown round Raleigh bicycles factory by Sir Harold Bowden. Cyclist Jack Rossiter brakes the 21 year old record for riding from Land's End to John O'Groats. Cycling on a Raleigh bicycle he does the distance in 2 days - 13 hours and 22 mins.

Raleigh bikes takes over Humber Cycles from Nottingham. Raleigh then produced a three wheeler car! It went 55 mph - did 60m to a gallon and cost £95! Sir Harold Bowden finally retires from Raleigh bikes after years of strong leadership and much devotion to the bicycle company and also the world of cycling in general. Raleigh bicycle production now reaches a smassive 62000 bikes a year. Raleigh bikes buy the Rudge-Whitworth bicycle company which dates to 1869 when Dan Rudge built an original "boneshaker" bicycle. They were called as such because they have any shock absorption - they had solid tyres!

Raleigh bicycles broke the one million bicycles per year barrier - now reaching 1010077! In the 50's, showing off skills on a small scale Raleigh engineers manufactured some minature cycles for a Puppet house.

The Duke of Edinburgh in November 52 opened a £1250000 extension to the Raleigh's bicycle factory. There was now a bridge between old and new bicycle factories with a conveyor belt system in place.

Raleigh took over the BSA Bikes cycle company. Mr Otto he demonstrated the merits of his riding machine by taking it up and down the boardroom in front of the astonished Raleigh bicycle directors.

1960: Raleigh merged with TI - Tube Investments - Group. With this came Phillips bikes, Hercules bikes, Norman and Sun bike brands making Raleigh the world's biggest makers of two wheel transport.

A sad day for Raleigh bikes came as Raleigh Chairman George Wilson was killed in an accident - ending the career of one of Raleigh's most well respected personnel. The company mourned for the Chairman.

1967: Moulton Bicycles was merged with Raleigh's alreadt massive bicycle operation. This brought two dynamic bicycle forces together and led to the Raleigh / Moulton Bike.

1970: Raleigh launches the Legendary Chopper bicycle! The Chopper is an huge success in Britain and the USA!

1976: Raleigh launches the Grifter as a forerunner to what was to become the BMX bicycle... another huge seller!

1980: Joop Zoetemelk o riding for Raleigh TI Creda wins Tour De France in 109 hours 19 minutes and 14 seconds. Beating Hennie Kuiper and the french Raymond Martin.

1982: Raleigh bikes launched its "Burner" BMX range to take the dirt bicycle world by storm! This model turned inot many different versions and become an outstanding success selling 500000 bikes in under 2 years.

Raleigh bikes introduces the Vektar - a cool must-have for 80's kids!

1987: This is Raleigh bikes centenary year. Raleigh was bought by Derby Intl, bringing the same bicycle enthusiasm as Sir Frank Bowden had done many years earlier. Derby continued to invest in new bike building processes and cycle design. 1988: Raleigh bikes announced its first profit of £500000 since becoming independent.

Jobs at Raleigh Bikes Triumph factory are safe-guarded as bicycle sales soared up 300% in just 12 months!Derby International completed the acquisition of Raleigh USA making it a sister company to Raleigh Bikes UK in Nottingham. Raleigh bicycles goes on to make its 1 millionth mountain bike four years after it started making them.

In 95 the MAX range of Raleigh bikes is launched. These bikes are advertised as 'oversized but not overweight' and become a huge success continuing today.

1999: Raleigh takes over world famous Diamondback Bicycles brand.

2001: Raleigh companies are acquired by the management from The Derby Cycle Corporation. The new style Raleigh bicycles brand is started.

2002: Raleigh bikes open up a ground breaking new bicycle and bike parts range. The new brand goes from strength to strength with massive sales.

2003: Retaining historic Nottingham roots - Raleigh bikes moves to a new home in Eastwood - Nottingham. Raleihg launches its brand new website!

For more information on Raleigh bikes visit their website at http://www.raleighbikes.com for more details or call us for availability! All the best - all at Bonthrone Bike Shops Online UK:)

An interesting window on the world of Raleigh

Matthew - world wide wandering

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   From Bonthrone Bikes website posted by Steve on 5/20/2008 at 12:29:25 PM
I was reading a 1950's test report the other day about a newly introduced implement for a Fowler bulldozer, so what ! you might think...well, it was accompanied by a black & white action photo of said machine preparing some ground for a new development and hey presto what was in the background...a very long and tall building in Nottingham with large lettering on the side proudly stating RALEIGH INDUSTRIES LIMITED.

I may have mentioned before that although I have plenty of bikes here I don't actually have (apart from one Sturmey Archer three speed bible) any actual books on bikes, so this was quite an eye opener for me and I can now easily appreciate some of Matthews facts and figures above as the building depicted is certainly no "small fry".

Just goes to show that you can be reading about a completely different subject and the name RALEIGH can still jump out at you.

Steve - off to the garage now to work on a Raleigh trade bike...rusty but well built.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   From Bonthrone Bikes website posted by Christopher on 5/20/2008 at 5:35:38 PM
Please upload the picture for us to see. I'd love to see it and the report too if you can, but at least the picture!

   RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   From Bonthrone Bikes website posted by Steve on 5/21/2008 at 1:29:04 AM
Due to the fact that the picture is in a current vintage enthusiasts magazine (Britannia News) I will have to get permission from the copyright owner in order to reproduce it.

This may take a little time, but I will give it a go and report back.


   RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   From Bonthrone Bikes website posted by Chris on 5/21/2008 at 5:16:29 PM
Please do. Thanks

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   From Bonthrone Bikes website posted by Steve on 5/24/2008 at 3:02:40 AM
I've made contact with the copyright owner (who incidentally acquired the photo from elsewhere subject to copyright rules), but it shouldn't be a problem.

Waiting for permission and hopefully transmission next week.

Steve - on a mission.

AGE / VALUE:   disaster! posted by: stephen hogben on 5/19/2008 at 2:16:07 PM
Yes after weeks of preparing the fully enclosed chain case on this ruddy Rudge Whitworth ladies bike (circa 1936)I put on the gold pinstripe waited a few days and then thought mmm give it a coat of laquer to seal it all down!Tested it on paint and pinstripe separtly,no probs!Applied somewhat thicker coat to chaincase aaaargh acted like paint stripper.Nooooooo! Tried to send pictures but a computer wizard I am not!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Trade bike tyres/tires. posted by: Steve on 5/19/2008 at 1:33:52 PM
I've just spent roughly three or four weeks tracking down some half decent original 26 x 1 3/4 rims complete with the remnants of ragged tyres, tubes and dead spiders.

I'm about to order some replacement tyres and tubes but just want to make sure that I get this 100% right !

The reason why I ask this question is quite simply because the 26 x 1 3/4 tyres I have look to be slightly different in bulkiness, height from the rim etc than a couple of other 26 x 1 3/4 tyres I have.....could these be
26 x 2 x 1 3/4 or would it state on the tyre wall if this was the case ?

I've only ever seen 26 x 1 3/4 stated on the tyre wall but I do see 26 x 2 x 1 3/4 advertised for sale, do these tyres have 26 x 2 x 1 3/4 stated on the tyre wall ?

Meanwhile it's out with the wire cup brush and drill, some paint, the odd spoke etc in preparing the rims for a new lease of life before the tyres and tubes arrive.




   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Trade bike tyres/tires. posted by sam on 5/19/2008 at 8:05:18 PM
The schwinn middleweight tires (s-7s) are this size.But I've seen on pre-war brit bikes 26x2 a full balloon tyre size.And even with the s-7s the newer ones (kinda)are a bit on the lean side.