ENGLISH ROADSTERS:dating a magenta/pink women's raleigh posted by: Heather on 5/26/2008 at 8:24:44 PM
Hi, I recently was looking for a vintage style raleigh to fulfill my old upright bike fantasy(can't afford a $1400 dutch bike!). I came across one recently and got a great deal on it because while in great condition it has a few nicks and scrapes. It rides very well aside from all the creaks and rattles. The most striking feature is the colour- it is bright bright metalic magenta or purple depending on how you look at it. Everything says made in england. It may have had a sturmy archer internal hub as the tire hubs say sturmy archer but it has a 5 speed huret allvit derailler. Otherwise all looks original. It looks like it was hardly ridden and perhaps stored in a shed for years. It has the original raleigh/dunlop whitewall tires, a white vinyl brooks saddle(which is a bit weird) and the handle bar grips are white and look like grips from 1950's raleighs. I saw a photo online of a raleigh pink witch from the 1950/s which looks exactly like this bike missing a chainguard and skirt guard. Pink Witches were girl's bikes but i am short! The serial number below seat post is ND 5281461. I have been unable to find it as the serial numbers for raleighs online are very sporatic. Sheldon Brown's retroraleighs site recently stopped working too! There is nothing on the bike to indicate if it is a sprite, sport etc.. Any ideas? I would really like to know even if it is just a newer bike. I'd like to put a sturmy archer internal hub on it at some point. It is so fun!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:dating a magenta/pink women's raleigh posted by ken on 5/27/2008 at 11:35:59 AM
It probably started out as a five-speed. S-A made derailleur hubs too. And Raleigh used Huret components until the mid 70s. The white vinyl saddle's not uncommon either. You might have found this on retroRaleighs - I hope somebody fixes that! The catalogs don't show all the models available, though.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Rim Spoking dia of Sun CR18 EA3 posted by: Smith on 5/26/2008 at 8:06:55 PM
I am going to lace up some nice light wheels for my daughters 1960 Hercules using the sun CR18 EA3s (590) And I cant find the ERD or the rim spoking diameter. Does any one know what it is.
Is there a website with the early 60s Herc catologs on it. It would be nice to know what model it is. It doesn't seem to be marked on the frame.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Rim Spoking dia of Sun CR18 EA3 posted by Smith on 5/27/2008 at 8:41:25 PM
Yes I have already tried that. I can't use it because I do not have the right softwear. Thanks anyway.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:Rim Spoking dia of Sun CR18 EA3 posted by ken on 5/27/2008 at 11:45:30 AM
Forgive me if you've already searched this-

AGE / VALUE: posted by: Stephen Hogben on 5/26/2008 at 2:10:34 PM
Pete what a gorgeous job you have done on that Raleigh!My jaw dropped when I saw your photo makes me feel like stripping my bike and starting again.Lovely job!

   RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Pete on 5/26/2008 at 5:15:05 PM
Steve I am fortunate in that I do that sort of thing for a living (cars) with access to all the right equipment etc which makes things considerably easier.Sadly that bike is for sale on the dreaded fleabay at the moment due to lack of shed space and finances.

AGE / VALUE: posted by: Stephen Hogben on 5/25/2008 at 1:51:14 PM
After 4 days of rubbing down chaincase with 1200 grit paper,resprayed it today and fingers crossed it looks ok!Now got to leave it for 4 or 5 days to harden off.That Hammerite (smooth)paint gives a really good finish but takes so long to dry! Feels ok after quite a few hours but when you look you have left a thumb print in it.Doh!!!

   RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Pete on 5/25/2008 at 2:48:04 PM
Ten out of ten for perseverance,but you will always be up against it with Hammerite.Hard to use and especially to recoat and rectify.You obviously have the patience of a saint which can only be a good thing and I commend you highly for this so I am sure it will look good when finished.Don't worry about the thumb print, when the paints hard flat it out with 2000 grit and soap and just polish it up to remove imperfections and make it gleam.
Keep up the good work and post up the results.


   RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Steve on 5/25/2008 at 4:46:03 PM
My mudguards are still hanging there in a neat line with a neat tag attached to each one with neat details as to which neat bike they belong to !

Do...keep on reporting pitfalls, heartaches, paints, grits, timespans etc etc.

It my opinion, in most cases it's not that difficult to get a bike up and running but it does take a heck of a lot of time and patience to go that extra step and make it look the "bees knees" !

I'm not sure mine will ever sparkle the way some of you manage it, they'll probably resemble a tired bike in a rainy late Tuesday afternoon "knocking off" (leaving) scene from an industrial factory area in a Lowry painting complete with crouched over knackered rider (me) dreaming about nothing more than the smell of the meat and potato pie that will greet me when I open the porch door on arrival back at home !

Steve - tired.


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Armstrong '69 posted by: jgodsey on 5/25/2008 at 6:40:06 AM
Because of the gas prices (and the fact that I need the exercise) I took my bike out of the garage.
I had the shop give it new tires and a once over, as it hadn't been ridden in 15 years. I also cleaned all the chrome and washed her. the paint is scratched in many places, but I don't think it needs to be repainted just yet. Other than the tires, every bit of it is original with the Sturmley Archer hub and Mesinger seat. I was going to try to buy a vintage seat bag, but I think I may just make one.
NOW I need to get off my butt and use her. I live in a slightly hilly area and need to find reasons to start riding again.

Any advice for out of shape middle aged riders?



   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Armstrong '69 posted by Ed on 5/25/2008 at 7:06:40 PM
I have repaired about 100 bicycles like this one, very good quality. Please find an original prop stand. That one is a bad frame bender.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Armstrong '69 posted by Steve on 5/26/2008 at 12:12:39 AM
Keep your eyes (and ears) wide open when out on the road, traffic conditions (even with the current sky high oil prices) and some peoples driving habits are worse now than they've ever been.

Ensure you've got a decent helmet and make sure that YOU can be seen !

Steve - recent incident prompts the above tone.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Armstrong '69 posted by David on 5/26/2008 at 3:53:30 AM
Pay attention to the fit of the bike and make adjustments so you're as comfy as possible. Otherwise, just ride. As for the kickstand, they all squash the chainstays unless they bolt directly to a plate on the frame.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Armstrong '69 posted by Geoff Rogers on 5/27/2008 at 7:32:03 AM
The Mesinger saddle is a US-made item, and is definitely not an original fitment to any British bicycle. Your bike orignally would have been equipped with a Brooks or Wrights vinyl mattress saddle. Perhaps the bike shop that sold it new removed that and put on the Mesinger, but that did not happen in Nottingham!
Your bike looks like a real beauty. Those platform-style pedals were used in 1969 only, I believe. They work fine as long as you put a little oil in them. The outer cap is pressed on but you can pry it off with a screwdriver to lubricate, which is very important. Otherwise they will get sticky and wear out quickly. Also, dribble a bit of oil onto the axle, right next to the crank, so it will get into that end of the pedal, and spin it until the oil has gotten in. You will notice a difference right away.
Geoff Rogers