AGE / VALUE:   e- bay item#380036652099 posted by: Chris on 6/19/2008 at 6:27:53 PM
Worth more than both of the bikes is this accessory. I swooned. Swoon means to faint I think. My heart jumped. Oh, my God, how I'd love to get my hands on these baycliffe bags! I never, ever, see these bags.
red alert, fellow Brit bikies!
Royal scot pair
look it up by the item number!
e- bay item # 380036652099

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   e- bay item#380036652099 posted by Christopher on 6/19/2008 at 6:33:22 PM
Put these bags on your raleigh tourist d.l.1.!

Wooooooooooo- Hoooooooooo!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   e- bay item#380036652099 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/20/2008 at 2:41:51 AM
Intersting... and quite local to me...

Don't know what I would do with them as I have a small plethora... the bags are kinda nice though.



Larry "Boneman" Bone - bagging it for now....

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   e- bay item#380036652099 posted by Chris on 6/20/2008 at 12:52:40 PM
Forget the bikes themselves! Go get your hands on those baycliffe bags and the rack they are attached to.

When they have my funeral, they are going to be asking "What is it is clutching in his hands?"
Some people have rosery beads in their hands but I'll be holding a Brooks or Baycliffe bag set!
It'll be large vintage Brooks panniers and bags and the Baycliffe stuff also.
So often,
What excites me often is the "candy" attached to the bike and not the bikes themselves.


   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The thrill of the chase posted by Chris on 6/20/2008 at 1:23:27 PM
Stunned at what was on his desk in front of me,I whispered how many do you have? How much for all of them. I want them all! He eyes me, drooling and figuring how much to sock me for. I fly out to the bank, I return and lay the $20's on the desk. I tell him I "want him to make calls and find more of them. I'm demanding "Where did you find them?" "Call your suppliers, customers and former customers, your cousin across town!" Go get me more Brooks bags." I bought them all and then just to mess with me, he'd pull out another one from time to time.

I'd get sent to other shops. Ah, yes, I've heard of you.... You want to do what? Root thru my shop? pull stuff out? make huge mess? The basement? Oh, No! That's off limits! No basement is ever off limits to me! I always get in and with their blessings...
Plunder and have my way with the place and all the secret storage places like attics, basements, the stuff at the guy's house. Tools were a bitch, because they needed to keep them so they can do repairs.This and than could not be sold.

Lock the doors, pull the blinds, the shop is closed. The real fun began!

One time I brought in a 1930's Brown brother book and he asked where did you get that? "From my personal collection"
I told him I wanted the stuff in the book. All of it. He leaned back and in a strange whispering tone laced with the marvelous magic one encounters in old bicycles We have most of what you are pointing to. "We were famous! or infamous! here, in these parts years ago. More than you have heard! He made calls to his dad and grandfather also, to get me into what the family had hidden away.
They were the shop with all the stuff. I have seen and plundered stashes, collections and shops that took my breath and ability to speak, away.
My friends who were in the business or who were fellow collectors would find out I got to buy it up, beating them out of the prize would be furious with me and I would not be able to visit with them till they were not so mad at me.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1953? Superbe posted by: Peter on 6/19/2008 at 4:37:22 PM
I just saw a very old Raleigh 3 speed and would like advice on whether it is a good candidate and what is a reasonable price to pay. I think it is a superbe because it has a full crankcase and a dynohub. The rear hub says Sturmey Archer and "AW". I couldn't see a serial number. In some ways it is in exceptional condition: the black paint is good; the raleigh and "all steel decals" are readable; it has a (somewhat rotten) seat bag with what appear to be some original spanners; the pump is there (but frozen in place and with a split top. There is a front light, a rear light, and a "Miller eight 20" bell. It has a very worn but seemingly serviceable Brooks B66 saddle. It also has some problems: the rear wheel has 40 spokes, of which 1 is broken. The front wheel has 32 spokes. The tires are of course rotten. The wheels seem to spin relatively true, but I have very little experience in assessing this.And, most worrisome to me, the right crank has been twisted to the extent that the right pedal can't turn without banging into the crankcase. Any advice about whether to make an offer on this bike and especially on the problems I am likely to run into in fixing it up will be appreciated.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1953? Superbe posted by Kevin on 6/19/2008 at 5:59:20 PM
The problems don't sound that serious -- tires, tubes and spokes are readily available, and it's likely that the crank arm could be removed and straightened, or replaced entirely. I would think that it could be made rideable for $50 to $100, even if needs new cables. There is value in the original paint, full chaincase, original lights, Dynohub and a Brooks saddle. Market value depends on several things: the willingness of the seller to get rid of it; wheel size; frame size; whether it's a men's or women's model, and its location. Since it isn't rideable, I wouldn't offer too much for it. I've bought complete, rideable men's Raleigh Sports and Tourists for $25-$50.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: 1953? Superbe posted by Peter on 6/19/2008 at 6:36:09 PM
Thanks Kevin. I'll offer $50 and see what happens.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1953? Superbe posted by Geoff Rogers on 6/25/2008 at 8:08:54 AM
'Tain't a Superbe. They were generally dark Raleigh green, and always had a locking front fork, along with the Dynohub, lights, alloy kickstand (why did they bother on a 50-lb bicycle?), and, depending on the year, Brooks B66 saddle, front mudflap, Lucas bell, and often a FG four-speed Dynohub in the rear. Early sixties Superbes had half-chrome front forks. In the fifties, Raleigh also sold fancy Sports models, which could be ordered with pretty much all the Superbe features except for the Raleigh Green paint. I have one from 1955 with locking fork, B66, stainless rims, Dyno-four hub, Lucas bell, gearcase, Dyn-Luxe DBU battery unit, all the toys except for the Raleigh Green paint (It's black). These were among the finest of Raleigh's offerings, some of the best cycles made anywhere, anytime, period. Buy it and enjoy it! If you need a new (used) crank or other parts, email me at jollyrogersmo at hotmail dott com.
Geoff Rogers

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   1953? Superbe posted by Robert on 6/28/2008 at 1:28:44 PM
I need a key for the front locking wheel of my 1972 Raleigh Superbe. A locksmith tells me he could make a key if he had a key blank or the lock's code number. Do these blanks exist? If so, where could I obtain one? Ditto for the lock/key code. Or, does anyone have a spare key that would work for my '72 Superbe? Many thanks.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   James lady's bike posted by: dan on 6/18/2008 at 4:30:28 PM
I have a lovely 1954 lady's bike (w/SA) that I believe is a "James". Anyone know anything about the company?

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: James lady's bike posted by sam on 6/18/2008 at 8:40:16 PM
Part of the B.C.C.
original company dates to 1880
They also built motorcycles

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: James lady's bike posted by Chris on 6/19/2008 at 9:07:24 AM
They were known as "the famous James" they are rare and seldom seen and they made a lot of good quality stuff tricycles and delivery vehicles and bikes of all sorts. I'd love to see a picture of this.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   James lady's bike posted by Stephen Hogben on 6/19/2008 at 3:42:06 PM
I expect you already have but looked at the james cycle co"s works at greet birmingham.Iremember their motor-bikes,nearly bought a Captain(also know where one is buried!)They where small motorbikes 125s 175s,powered by Villiers engines,but dont hold me to this!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: James lady's bike posted by James on 6/21/2008 at 2:20:52 AM

Not only but also; The James Handy Van 700cc (42cuin) vee twin engine.

look at

My friend has the van version and often appears at 1940's events and rallys around the UK.

Matthew - not as famous as The James

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: James lady's bike posted by The infamous Chris on 6/21/2008 at 2:02:24 PM
Not as famous perhaps, but loved and appreciated for sure.

AGE / VALUE:   Throw away society! posted by: Stephen Hogben on 6/17/2008 at 4:15:17 PM
Steve you saying about modern bikes being thrown away,went down the dump the other day,must have been a 100+ bikes in a pile,went and had a nose (as you do)no bike was over 10 years old!Two doors away from me is an old boy,about 70,he makes a few bob (bucks)enough to keep his car running by doing up newish bikes and selling at car boot sales.He asked if he could take some wheels from them,but of course was told NO, these bikes are for re cycling.Mad aint innit!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Throw away society! posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/17/2008 at 4:54:56 PM
It's all because things are so cheaply made overseas (read - China, India, Malaysia, Viet Nam... etc.). Labour rates there are despicably low... and of course quality suffers....

But really, if you think about it... to pay a knowledgable, trained velociped technician his fair rate to diagnose and repair a machine that cost only $69 at the local Wal*Mart.... really doesn't make sense.

It's a damn shame.


Larry "Boneman" Bone - Re-cycle means to FIX it dammit!

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: Stephen Hogben on 6/16/2008 at 3:10:39 PM
Yes did ride the Hercules into work today,was surprised how many people actually did cycle in! Most of them lived in a 5 mile radius (one of them was doing 15 miles each way)and nearly all of them do it because of rising petrol prices!Fitted front basket on bike today to hold my coat,front and back lights,and a flashing L E D thing (£1.99) which was quite impressive!Gave bike a good oiling before I set off,mistake,this seemed to dislodge all the muck into the bearings and a lot off black sludge then transferred to my trouser legs.This seemed to loosen everything up and cones etc all had to be adjusted.When I was a boy,you adjusted the wheel cones then tightened a thin locking nut,but on these older bikes there is no locking nut and is more difficult to get it right.All of those people who rode into work today were on mountain bikes,but on the way home(10 pm)I showed a fair few of a clean pair of heels! actually enjoyed the ride,and it is suprising what you see as you pedal along!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Steve on 6/17/2008 at 8:07:30 AM
Sounds as though you're enjoying things.

Word has got out that I've got some old bikes hence was invited to my childrens infant/junior school today as they had a bike awareness day organised by the area cycle association...the local police were also invited along (on their bikes).

There was approx 400 BMX/Mountain type bikes (some in horrendous brakes, flat tyres etc, these were dealt with accordingly and children were advised on how to rectify these simple issues.

I really did get the impression that parents had bought the bikes fully expecting never to have to touch them again until they end up in the skip...throw away society hmmmm !
Funny thing happened...child said to me "wow, your bike must be five years old" in astonished voice, I replied "well it's actually 74 years old", child replied with "Don't be silly, that's impossible" !

Finally, I overtook a battery powered milk float on the way home...o.k. I admit it was low on power on it's way back (slowly) to the depot.

Steve - Hercules rides again.