AGE / VALUE:    posted by: S H on 6/23/2008 at 1:58:28 PM
As I am using the Hercules every day now bought a new gel saddle and tried it out,absolute rubbish £25 down the drain! The origonal sprung saddle was far better.The short cuts I take to get to work (6 am this morning,yawn)have tree roots growing through the path,ouch!Fitted old saddle again.At work they are doing a sponsered bike ride (cancer) around the Isle of Wight (60 miles) but I think that might be a bit far for me at the moment!Thinking about it ,but 60 miles in a day WOW!Last year they did London to Brighton,another 60 miles.Our shop steward just done this WALKING and raised a bundle! Yours og.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brooks leather vs gel GEL LOOSES! posted by chris on 6/23/2008 at 6:50:48 PM
L 25.00 (pounds sterling) is a lot of money for a gel seat!

   RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Matthew on 6/24/2008 at 1:36:05 PM
Hi Stephen,

Saddles are as individual as the individual sat on them. A Brooks B66, which is highly thought of, is far from comfortable for me. I use a gel cover on a modern saddle on my trade bike. I've managed 76 miles in a day but not straight off, I had done some 50s in the same week.

I am small and have (according to the girls at work) a nice btm. I only weigh 9st 5lb so don't bear heavy on a saddle, perhaps that's why a B66 isn't so very comfy for me.

You can do that IOW tour just build up to it gently. Its much cheaper than the Jag!

Matthew - blazing!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/25/2008 at 2:40:10 AM
I caught it... I think.... do you wear a shining star as well Matthew?


Larry "Boneman" Bone - Bart was his name!

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mohawk posted by: Steve on 6/23/2008 at 12:39:14 PM
Can anyone shed any light on Mohawk.

I have the remains of one here, it looks English 1930's etc and I've been informed it has connections with Coventry in England although all the checks I've done point towards the States.

It has the two narrow cotter pins (pinch-bolts ?) on the BB
and as the faint outline of a large letter "M" in gold and smaller letters stating Mohawk (also in gold) on top of the letter "M" on the headstock, there's also some gold letters underneath the "M" but my magnifying glass is struggling to make them out.

I've actually utilised the sprocket and 3/16th chain that came with it and the front wheel looks restorable, as for the rest well....

Any information gladly appreciated.

Steve - p.s. It was a trade bike !


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Mohawk posted by Kevin on 6/23/2008 at 5:13:36 PM
It is an old trade bike. Notice the lugs on the frame to hold the basket frame ... also the tire appears to be larger than a normal lightweight.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: S H on 6/22/2008 at 8:15:06 AM
Saw a bicyle "computer" for sale at my local car parts shop yesterday,cost £10.Thought umm what does that do? Loads of things!Fitted it to the Hercules,Quite suprised that my normal sort of speed was only 10 m.p.h.However on the way to the club,with the temptation of BEER and a massive tail wind managed 21 m.p.h. Could not go any faster due to no gears!Only managed a max of 14 on the way back home,beer or headwind who cares!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/24/2008 at 2:15:43 AM
Bicycle computers can be fun things and have become quite reasonably priced of late. Now... if they can only make them so they last and continue to function once you get to the point you need change the battery.

Fun stuff though... during a "brisk" 3.5 mile ride around the neighborhood I consider myself doing OK if I maintain an avg. speed of 12mph.

Do be careful... I found myself in trouble more than once by staring at the 'puter as opposed to watching the road, eh?


Larry "Boneman" Bone - it does not compute

MISC:   Larz Anderson Bicycle Show & Swap Meet posted by: Peter Naiman on 6/21/2008 at 4:45:10 PM
Once more we are hosting a swap meet at the Annual Larz Anderson Bicyle Show & Swap at the Museum of Transportation at 15 Newton St., Brookline, MA 02445. There has been a positive change of staff at the Museum and for the forseeable future the swap will once again be an integral part of the show. Added to the show will also be a small grouping of extinct automobiles from the early 1900s, Stanley Steamers and more, plus the Museum will bring out there unique collection of antique cycles.

The show and swap are on Sunday July 20th, with show time from 10:00AM - 3;00PM, with set up time for the swap starting @ 8:00AM, and the bicycle show corral set up time starting at 9:00AM. A pre-show Vintage Ride is scheduled to leave the Museum at 8:30AM and follow the Emerald Necklace through scenic parts of Brookline and Newton.

For this year there will be "no charge" for a swap meet space of 10X10 feet. We are requesting pre-registration for the swap. Dale Brown has volunteered to host a website for us this year which will be online in a few more days. A registration form for the swap will be available online with the website. A big thank you goes out to Dale for his assistance !!

Entry fee to the show and swap $10 for adults and five dollars for children and seniors with no additional charges except for an $8.00 charge for rental of a table at the swap.

If you plan on attending the show and bringing a Vintage Bike for the bike corral, please email to me and let me know what you will be bringing. Voting for show awards in various categories will be popular choice as in prior years. Maurice Bresnahan and I will vote for Best of Show.

More information to be posted in the next few days. Maurice Bresnahan & I both look forward to seeing you at the show.

Peter Naiman
Milwaukee, WI USA.


ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Chain posted by: Steve on 6/20/2008 at 11:57:24 AM
Thanks to one bike arriving here with a chain that would have been more suited to a combine harvester, I'm always one chain down...the aforementioned chain had curved the SS FW sprocket teeth to an extent that I'd never seen before.

Anyhow, I'm not referring to 1/8th chain (that's easy to obtain - and I've got stacks of them), I'm referring to 3/16th heavy duty chain for one of my trade bikes that utilises a length of chain slightly longer than the others (two/three links to be exact).

Question is this :- If I don't acquire some 3/16 chain soon, I'm tempted to buy some 3/16th chain I've seen advertised for the "more robust BMX rider" !
I've enquired about the length and links etc and that seems fine (in fact I would have to shorten it).

I'm due to acquire a length of original 3/16 chain this weekend but I've been warned that it's been static outside for the last thirty years...I've been here before !

If the above cannot be revitalised, does anyone see a problem if I use the robust BMX 3/16 chain (I'm presuming it's 1/2 inch pitch) or I am I missing something blatantly obvious.

Steve - I know nothing about BMX's.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Chain posted by Matthew on 6/21/2008 at 2:11:55 AM
Hi Steve,

Think outside the basket.

You must have a transmission (not car gear box) or lawnmower specialist near you. Or industrial bearing suppliers etc. They will stock chain by the length. Problem solved and you can get to see what you are buying without paying postage and then finding that it isn't what you wanted.

Matthew - more power to your pedals

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Chain posted by Steve on 6/21/2008 at 10:18:49 AM
Thanks Matthew,

I have tried two motorbike shops and drew a complete blank (although one did manage to provide me with a split link that he'd had in his drawer for years...and thought he would never get rid of it).

I was going to aim at an "out and out" moped shop next but I like your suggestions and will have a look around.

The 3/16th thing has been a bit of an education, I have various 3/16 width chain sections but...a variety of "total width" profiles due to gauge of metal hence making it very difficult to splice them together or not foul the inner side of the sprocket unless you pack with extra washer/s to flare the forks etc etc... and I don't like doing that !

Steve - must get further out of the basket more often !

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Chain posted by Steve on 6/21/2008 at 4:11:41 PM
Sorry, I meant to say...the outer side of the chain rubbing on the right hand fork just above the outer side of the sprocket.

Having said that...the outer side of the sprocket does get desperately close to the fork on some occasions, hence I do have one bike where I have inserted a washer to ensure that there is a gap between sprocket and fork.

The seriously chunky 3/16 gauge chain I have will certainly touch the fork, I just wonder if this particular chain was originally produced for something else where greater stresses were involved, but somehow has managed to end up on or near a bike !

Steve - learning as usual.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Chain posted by sam on 6/21/2008 at 7:03:40 PM
Steve,BMX 3/16 chain is 1/2" pitch.Staton uses it on their motorbikes.I've seen very heavy(3/16??)chain(it was original) used on a WW2 english army bike.If you old chain ate the sprocket I suppect the freewheel is also gone.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Chain posted by Steve on 6/22/2008 at 12:42:59 AM
Sam, you're right...the freewheel had been affected, hence I opened it up to have a look inside...not quite sure if I gained anything by that (apart from a mess) !

The impressive extra heavy duty 3/16 chain now hangs (dwarfing the other spare chains) from my garage roof
in the hope of being used one day.

The other thing that was concerning me about BMX chain was the possibility of it being some "WOW, FUNKY, COOL" colour i.e. pink, yellow, orange, silver etc...could you imagine that on a 1940/50's black industrial trade bike ?

I'll look out for a WW2 bike at a show and compare.

If any novices (like me) are reading this, do bare in mind that the wider the chain (I'm referring to the total width - not the 3/16 inner width), then you will need longer rivets to perform operations on the chain and they're not as readily available as 1/8th stuff at your local glossy High Street shop (if you've got one)!

Steve - things can get frustratingly fiddly !