ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   One for Chris posted by: Pete on 8/19/2008 at 12:06:24 PM
Seen this and thought of you Chris.
Ebay Item number: 330260945483

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   One for Chris posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/19/2008 at 5:37:27 PM
Chris... grab a drooling towel first... what an awesome machine....


Larry "Boneman" Bone - Give me one... then MAYBE.. I'll consider jumping out of a perfectly good airplane.....

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   One for Chris posted by Chris on 8/21/2008 at 3:01:09 PM
Thank You for letting me see this.

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Getting oil out of Sturmey AW posted by: Kurt Henry on 8/19/2008 at 8:06:53 AM
I recently bought a Raleigh Sports, approximately a 69-70 based on the braze-ons and other items, as described on Sheldon's (as usual) invaluable pages. The previous owner used a very thin oil for all lubrication, leaving the Sturmey rear hub sounding very "bright", as Sheldon termed it. Is there a good way to get this oil out so that I can replace it with something more appropriate? Maybe a trick to get it out without leaving the oil port pointing down and letting it run out all over the rim/wheel/floor? Thanks all!

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Getting oil out of Sturmey AW posted by Jeff Bikeguy on 8/20/2008 at 4:55:37 AM
These hubs aren't sealed so they won't hold a lot of oil. You have two options. One is to overhaul the hub and the other is just to give it a squirt or two of a heavier oil (I like straight 30W motor oil) and ride it like that.
Do you know if the hub has any oil in it at all? They usually sound "bright" when they're dry.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Getting oil out of Sturmey AW posted by Kurt Henry on 8/20/2008 at 7:27:14 AM
I really don't know if anything is left in the hub, and am not sure how to check. He mentioned using 3 in 1 oil, at least for some things. I'm guessing that's what was everywhere, possibly including the rear hub, as the trip home left huge streaks of oil down the trunk of my car where the oil was washing off the chain, sprocket, and possibly out of the rear hub. If oil runs out that easily and it was 3 in 1 in the rear hub, then it's probably dry. I'll just drop in some straight 30 weight and see what it does. BTW, any tips for getting motor oil between the spokes and into that little oil port? If I haven't mentioned it, this is my first 3 speed since I was a child.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Getting oil out of Sturmey AW posted by Kevin on 8/20/2008 at 2:16:08 PM
If you put some kerosene in the oil hole, it will dilute the old, gummy oil and free things up. Kerosene is very fluid, so it will run out easily. Then put new oil in. Most SA hubs are only gummed up, not actually broken.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Getting oil out of Sturmey AW posted by Eric on 8/20/2008 at 3:45:35 PM
Sea Foam brand foaming penetrating oil.

   RE:RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Getting oil out of Sturmey AW posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 8/20/2008 at 6:13:31 PM
Hmmm.... that's a tough call... if you're trying to flush the oil out... and don't plan on tearing down the hub for re-greasing.... then Kerosene (Paraffin) would be the way to go.

If you plan on tearing it down... well... then there's no need to flush the oil out as you'll be cleaning it all up anyhow.

If you're daring.... I've used Brake-Klean to blast caked on crud on freewheel cassettes.... I suppos you could blast the oil out of a hub that way as well... alas, I'm not sure how that would effect the greased bearings in the hub.

And... to add to the dubious nature of the "Hub Oil" part of the topic... I've had excellent success using sewing machine oil in my hubs.

And of course there's the old trick of dumping 90 wt. gear oil down the seat tube to lube the bottom bracket. Yeah... it'll drip for a day or so... but it does work. Not as well as pulling the bearings for a proper re-grease... but it's far and away better than nothing at all.


Either way... best of luck with the machine!


Larry "Boneman" Bone - A slippery slope we're on....

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bearings Part 2 posted by: Steve on 8/19/2008 at 5:23:18 AM
Sorry to go on about this folks, but I've just had a read of Sheldons bearing stuff which states that most BB's have 11 x 1/4" bearings each side.

Do you think that this would also apply to Roadster era Trade bikes (cycle trucks)?
I ask the question because there are usually heavier duty running components associated with these bikes purely because of the nature of work that they were intended to perform.

I've just counted 21 bearings (from my current BB job) and there's no way that they are 1/4"...they're more like worn 3/16" (probably the reason for the excessive play)!

Out of interest I put 12 of them in the cup and placed the axle in...and it (and they) rotated fine, but I know it's wrong because that would leave 9 for the other side not forgetting the one bearing that has theoretically vanished !

I think someone has made a "balls up" of this before me !

This should resolve itself when the "posh" 1/4" bearings arrive.


   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS: Bearings Part 2 posted by Matthew on 8/19/2008 at 10:37:05 AM
Hi Steve,

22 balls 11 a side quarter inch for certain.

Matthew - bearing up

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bearings Part 2 posted by Steve on 8/19/2008 at 1:34:02 PM
Thanks Matthew,

Having entered the murky world of 3/16th (415) in a heavy way, I thought it wise to mention it just incase I'd missed something somewhere along the line.

Steve - hopefully I will be "bearing down" on the job tomorrow !

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Bearings Part 2 posted by Steve on 8/20/2008 at 9:30:09 AM
"Bearing down" a success, rest of the bike...still a mess !

Now filing down overweight cotter pins !

Steve - happy days

ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wanted: Front Axle "R" nut posted by: Barbara on 8/18/2008 at 8:44:12 PM
I'm looking for a front axle nut with the red script R for my Raleigh 3 speed. Anyone have one for sale/trade?
Thank you in advance.

   RE:ENGLISH ROADSTERS:   Wanted: Front Axle posted by Barbara on 8/19/2008 at 8:49:11 PM
Found one, thanks.

AGE / VALUE:   who needs a n.o.s. 32 hole hub? posted by: Christopher on 8/18/2008 at 1:07:34 PM
A thing of beauty! I especially love the red card tag with red string that holds the tag to the part.

Anybody need a N.O.S. Raleigh front hub with matching red raleigh r nuts with the serrated washers?
Love these!

e- bay item # 130247095930 RALEIGH FRONT HUB 32 HOLE RITH RALEIGH R NUTS

great stocking stuffer for Christmas too!!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   who needs a n.o.s. 32 hole hub? posted by Chris on 8/18/2008 at 1:13:38 PM
Not my auction, no relation to seller....

The seller also has a clock spring type derailer that accepts 1/2 x 1/8 th chain...