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MISC:   Join the Club posted by: Ryan on 10/31/2002 at 7:22:31 AM
Check out these 2 sites - my club and my bikes page

   RE:MISC:   Join the Club posted by Oscar on 11/3/2002 at 12:46:30 AM
Ryan, your dragsters look great. It's driving me crazy: what does " " mean?

   RE:RE:MISC:   Join the Club posted by Oscar on 11/3/2002 at 12:49:48 AM
That's " ".

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Join the Club posted by Oscar on 11/3/2002 at 12:50:29 AM
It keeps disappearing. Probably a naughty word.

   RE:MISC:   Join the Club posted by L.LUJAN on 11/13/2002 at 4:30:25 PM
Ryan, I have e-mailed you twice about a bike you have on your web page; but you return my mail. So i'm going too meet you half way. This concerns a 20''BUZZ BIKE ELIMINATOR by Western Flyer. If your going too post these bikes answer your mail. Thank you for your time.

LOWRIDERS:   Low fork posted by: Oscar on 10/29/2002 at 2:08:53 AM
What kind of fork fits into the steerer of a lowrider fork? Should I use a Schwinn stem (.833" or do you say 21.1mm) or a standard stem (22.2mm)?

   Oops posted by Oscar on 10/29/2002 at 1:19:15 PM
Ooops! I meant to ask what kind of stem fits in the steerer.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Low fork posted by metlhed on 10/29/2002 at 3:17:10 PM
both fit. you just need to have the right size holder-oners lol i mean the piece that hold the headtube on. as long as those hold it tight it shouldnt matter.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Low fork posted by JimW. on 11/3/2002 at 5:32:33 AM
I can tell you one thing. Those lowrider goosenecks (stems)don't fit into every steer tube. It was a nasty shock for us today, to discover that they don't fit into a Huffy tube.
We had to grind them down to fit. No huge deal, but it was still a surprise, and we hate surprises.

   RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Low fork posted by Mike on 11/8/2002 at 3:48:11 AM
Ya, Huffy is nonstandard ie "groupo wald"

CUSTOMS:   stretching a bike posted by: Aaron on 10/28/2002 at 7:56:51 PM
I'm getting ready to stretch a bike for my daughter, but I nnever built one before. dose anyone have any pics or tips to help me with my project.


   RE:CUSTOMS:   stretching a bike posted by a friend on 10/28/2002 at 8:44:57 PM
Aaron, Try going too bikerodnkustom here at Old Rodes. Go too bicycle links. There is a few builders on that site you can take a look at some of their work. "Recycles Cycles" I recomend as one of the shops who do this type of work. There are others too choose from.

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   stretching a bike posted by JimW. on 10/29/2002 at 7:32:23 AM
A lot depends on what sort of frame you're planning to stretch. Some are easier than others. Mr. Friend is right, we show many examples at BikeRod&Kustom. At http://bikerodnkustome2.homestead.com/archive.html you will find many examples, including a piece on Mr.Moto, which shows the steps in planning the stretch for one style of frame, an old Hawthorn.

Essentially, you cut the frame tubes and graft in new sections for lengthening the wheelbase.

AGE / VALUE:   custom lowrider posted by: shunder"shaman" chappell on 10/28/2002 at 1:47:02 AM
Wusup lowrider builders;got a project for ya.Im working on building a bike by the name of "snoopy,s gunship".I plan on building a trike,shapeing the frame like a 1920,s triplane,and building a dog house and mounting it on the back of trike with sounds and maybe some lights.Look for me at the cleveland autorama,with Way2low bike club and keep on freakin them lows .




   RE:AGE / VALUE:   custom lowrider posted by jimmy on 10/28/2002 at 10:51:30 PM
Hey that sounds like a really great idea, totally original, ive never seen anything like that before. I would put a strobe light in the dog house, and maybe a fog machine. that would be wicked!!!!!!!


CUSTOMS:   New project posted by: jimmy on 10/27/2002 at 11:15:01 PM
Hey guys, I have now started my new project, it is going to be a lowrider/custom chopper bike. Right now I have a sharks fin on the downtube, and batwings in the back triangle area. I also cut out the seat post. I still need to get the tanks welded in. I have one little problem with the fork, only because it's all hand fabricated. I think I know how the fork needs to be, but not completely sure. It's going to look like a chopper/motorcycle fork (triple tree fork) when completed. I have the two tubes, and a friend is making me the plates for a school project. Then on the fenders I am going to weld sides to them, making them look more like a motorcycles. I also have some realy cool drag bars to go on them. I have been thinking of making this bike into a "Bat" bike, paint it black and make it look fury and webby like a bat? lol, maybe. Or paint it some cutom color with some graphics on it? I dont know, I always have trouble when coming to this decision.

CUSTOMS:   New project posted by: jimmy on 10/27/2002 at 11:15:01 PM
Hey guys, I have now started my new project, it is going to be a lowrider/custom chopper bike. Right now I have a sharks fin on the downtube, and batwings in the back triangle area. I also cut out the seat post. I still need to get the tanks welded in. I have one little problem with the fork, only because it's all hand fabricated. I think I know how the fork needs to be, but not completely sure. It's going to look like a chopper/motorcycle fork (triple tree fork) when completed. I have the two tubes, and a friend is making me the plates for a school project. Then on the fenders I am going to weld sides to them, making them look more like a motorcycles. I also have some realy cool drag bars to go on them. I have been thinking of making this bike into a "Bat" bike, paint it black and make it look fury and webby like a bat? lol, maybe. Or paint it some cutom color with some graphics on it? I dont know, I always have trouble when coming to this decision.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   New project posted by shunder way2low bike club on 10/28/2002 at 1:39:16 AM
hi jimmy; your idea sounds great.me and some of my clubmembers was thinking about doing a bike like it.I am very intrested in hearing about how your fork idea comes out.me and my one pal looked at useing motorcycle trees.but the cost seemed alittle high.you might want to look into haveing your neck raked,to help with your stance.If i may suggest,look into molding some bat-style wings on and if you really want to try something different,try covering your frame with velvet fabric,like the one on the touring batmobile in the custom car book from the Autorama.I hope your project works out for you. shunder"shaman"chappell

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   New project posted by jimmy on 10/28/2002 at 10:49:37 PM
Hey there, I already have the neck raked 2 inches, i just forgot to add that detail. Today I finished welding and grinding. Tomorrow I plan on going over the whole frame with some fine sandpaper to get all the little swirl marks off of it. Then by the end of the week I might have started bondoing. And for the bat bike idea, I just got another good idea for it, bat wing handle bars, sounds kinda cool, And have a set of batwing wheeld made? yeahhhhh. kinda expensive though, I think i might stick to the wild graphics desgin i have drawn up.


LOWRIDERS:   How to Bondo posted by: Jay Fuselier on 10/27/2002 at 5:03:33 AM
I have purchased several lowrider bike parts and finally have everything I need to build the complete bike. The frame I have is not yet painted, but I've decided I want to have it bondoed. Everyone that knows how to bondo bikes wants to charge me too much money! Would it be less costly or even possible to bondo it myself, considering I've never worked with this type of work before? If anyone knows how to bondo bikes, would you share it with me, it would be very helpful for me. Thank You.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   How to Bondo posted by a friend on 10/27/2002 at 4:53:30 PM
Hi Jay, The reason it costs alot its time consuming. Its real work too get the final finish. Different stages. Yes, it will be cheaper if you did it yourself. The question is, are you willing? Check in the archives, many people have covered this subject more than I can mention. Some of these lowrider websites have the frames bondoed already.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   How to Bondo posted by sam on 10/27/2002 at 7:07:29 PM
Jay, this is an idea you might want to try.Build up the bike with your parts just as is.Then get some heavy grade cardboard and cut out templates for the areas you want to add to.Tape them to the bike.you can change the design and try different approches to see what works best for you.You can even try different paint designs.Remember cardboard is cheep--real metal/bando work is costly.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   How to Bondo posted by jimmy on 10/27/2002 at 11:11:28 PM
Hey there, I know of website that tells you how to do the job with fiberglass, much cheaper than steel and perhaps quicker too. It is on www.lowrideronline.com, from there, its under articles, then how-to's, It is easy to follow instructions and supplies that could be bought all at Wal-Mart. The bondo process is rather simple, you can buy it a wal-mart too! You get some cardboard and slap some bondo on there,then run your plastic spreader through it, also available at wal-mart, and gently run it over anywhere there are pits and pinholes on the frame. Put it on in about 1/16 of an inch coats all over the frame. After drying for about a day, take some medium grit sand paper, and a sanding block, and sand it all smooth. If needed you may have to go over some areas with more bondo. And resand. After you think you have it all smooth and straight, primer it. Let it set for about a day, and go back and look for any defects, if there are any, go back in there with bondo until its smooth, and reprimer, it seems like a lot, and it is, but the results are one kick a$$ bike!!! I've been working with bondo for years, and at first I was scared to do the job myself the first time, but after alittle practice, its a peice of cake. Go check out that website! It has even more information on fiberglassing and bondoing and designing.


   RE:LOWRIDERS:   How not to Bondo posted by James Donohue on 10/28/2002 at 8:51:07 PM
Bondo jobs cost a lot of time and money.time is money.
I spent 300 hours bondoing and sanding my daughters bike. I add a teaspoon of resin to the Bondo tm to give it impact resistance, but it costs a lot of extra time spent sanding.
I tried to make it like a gelcoat sort of.
Because of the curves of the fenders,[tank],fairing, and fiberglass motorcycle style seat
the bike had to be rotated so only a 4 square inch section
on top or else it runs down, You don't want it to run,
it takes forever to snd the runs out.
Having said that you may wish to use the Bondo tm straight,
without adding the teaspoon of resin.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: a friend on 10/26/2002 at 10:18:02 PM
Issac Ray, help is on the way.

LOWRIDERS:   painting flames posted by: isaac ray on 10/26/2002 at 3:43:48 PM
i finally added body to my bike,sanded and sanded and sanded. i then sprayed the base coat (dupli-color brand) let it dry for about 5 hours. i then spent forever laying out my flame pattern and finaly sprayed the flames. when i went to remove the tape, to see what i thought was the final look, i was surprised to see the base coat stuck to the tape. what a dissapointment. what did i do wrong? i used 3m blue plastic 3/4 in tape. the base coat was silver mettalic. did i use th wrong paint? not enough time to dry? can someone help me out, this is my first project what a hard lesson to learn!!!!

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   painting flames posted by JimW. on 10/26/2002 at 8:02:38 PM
Five hours is not nearly enough drying time for paint to be ready to have masking tape applied. It isn't even a good idea to touch it that soon after spraying on a finish. It remains soft and flexible for a very long time. I'd let it sit for days before doing anything at all to it.

After it's dried the way it is for a few days, you can wet-sand it, to feather the damage, then spray a good buildup of primer over it, in several coats. Primer can be sanded after a couple of hours. Once you've wet sanded it, using a block so you don't deepen the low spots any more, apply a skim coat of spot putty over the whole damaged area. Give it a day to thoroughly dry and shrink as much as it's going to, then wet sand it with the block again. I find that one of those plastic bondo squeegees makes a good block, as it's slightly flexible, but is still basically a flat surface. After you've sanded the putty repair, being sure to also sand the paint around that area, which will feather the transition. Then, spray on more primer, extending it into the area of finish around the repair. Take a look at it at that point. If it's flat and smooth, with no low places left, let it dry several hours before wet-sanding it with 400 grit paper. If there are still low areas showing, repeat the previous process as many times as it takes to make it look perfect. It would be a good idea to wet sand the entire frame's finish coat, and spray a new finish coat over the whole thing. Touch-ups in one area, with metallics, usually look different from the original finish coats. Spraying the whole thing will make it consistent again. I would advise waiting at least a week, after this, before masking again, and two weeks would be even better.

The cheapest and most important part of the painting process is patience. Good luck with it.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS: painting flames posted by ISAAC RAY on 10/26/2002 at 9:28:04 PM
Thanks for the info jim. i,ll let you know how it comes out.

LOWRIDERS:   lowrider project posted by: sikNtwistd on 10/23/2002 at 3:07:58 PM
Hey, Im working on making a lowrider from a BMX frame on lovely lowrider.com. I have never built a bike before, and have only repaired them a couple of times. I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I would have to build the crank and steering assembly myself, and I was just wondering if anyone could supply a diagram as to how the parts fit in? Thanks, I have a list of parts I am buying from lovelylowrider.com, if I missed anything let me know,
the list is here Lowrider.xls Thanks for your help,

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   lowrider project posted by sikNtwistd on 10/23/2002 at 3:16:22 PM
sorry the spread sheet listed is at this address
guess my HTML doesnt work. Thanks again,

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   lowrider project posted by JimW. on 10/23/2002 at 8:47:45 PM
Hi Jason,
Your shopping list looks pretty complete to me. It's interesting that you chose to build it around a BMX frame, most people building a lowrider would have chosen the traditional Schwinn-style lowrider frame, especially as it's $10 cheaper.

I doubt that you'll have any trouble putting it together. It's pretty tough to get the parts mixed up, as they're all very different. Be sure you grease the headset and crank bearings before you put it together, though, if you plan on actually riding it. The wheel hub bearings are already greased when you get them.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   lowrider project posted by sam on 10/24/2002 at 5:00:29 PM
Always look at what other people are doing---so you can go in another direction.That was the advise of my art teacher.A BMX lowrider---cool idea.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS: lowrider project posted by Sebastian on 10/25/2002 at 10:21:04 AM
Jason, check this out: http://lowriderbike.virtualave.net/lrb/basti/images/lowbmx.jpg

this is my 98 Huffy quarterton freestyle bike with my lowriderbike parts added while my Schwinn-type lowrider frame was at the welders shop.

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   lowrider project posted by sikNtwistd on 10/25/2002 at 6:43:09 PM
Whoa, thanks guys, and thats a very cool bike sebastian. I was going to choose however to leave out the banana seat on mine, and stick with a traditional BMX seat, no sissy bar either. I live in New Jersey, so Im just trying to keep it reasonable for the area. Thanks though, I was able to get some parts like the headset, stem, and seat post off my old 1985 redline. Im hoping to start building soon, and Ill get some pictures too. Thanks again,

MISC:   Art News posted by: JimW. on 10/23/2002 at 2:31:33 PM
The Wizard Bros. (Jim and Dave Wilson) are pleased to announce that their most recent creation: 2much!!! a "mixed-media floor piece, in steel, fiberglass, and acrylics" has been accepted into the Louisiana Artists Mixed-Media 2002 show at Union Gallery, LSU, Baton Rouge. The show's Opening Reception and Lecture is Sunday, November 10, 2-4 PM, and the show runs through Dec. 10.

   RE:MISC:   Art News posted by a friend on 10/23/2002 at 2:54:49 PM
"Congadulations Boy's" That Trike is truly 2 Much. From where I sit, I would like too trade places with you Jim. If anyone deserves this award is you & your family, and any friend who stepped up too the plate and assisted you with this prodject. It holds true that one who gives of himself; will be reconized along the way. "Remember Jim", injoy yourself at the show, "you have more than earned it".

   RE:MISC:   Art News posted by Oscar on 10/23/2002 at 10:28:30 PM
Wonderful job and congratulations. That's a real honor to be proud of.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Art News posted by JimW. on 10/24/2002 at 2:30:50 AM
Thanks, guys. It's like I've been saying for years: "It's not a hobby, it's an art form."

This is part of a long-time goal. In my neighborhood, Chelsea, in New York City, there's an art gallery the size
of an aircraft hanger. I want to organize a kustombike show there, with the best kustom bikes from all over the country (what the hell- all over the world1)

It's a realistic goal. The bikes coming into the BR&K Gallery now are absolutely exquisite. There are some occasional lame ones, but those are now being rejected- we just don't have the bandwidth to waste.

The reason they've been getting better is that people can see what other people are doing now, so they raise their sights and standards. They realize that they're not just impressing their neighbors, they're showing their work to the world. Naturally, they want to impress the world, too.

Dave and I deliberately set out to build something which would astound and amaze people with its beauty, detailing and finish. Looks like we did it, at least as far as the Baton Rouge art establishment is concerned.

We didn't sneak it in there either. All entries had to be accompanied by photographs of the work, and were selected by a jury. We did neglect to mention that its 30-watt audio system is loaded with an endless-loop cassette which plays
Steppenwolf's "Born To Be Wild" for one minute, when the viewer pushes a button to trigger the trike's flashing running lights. 8-) Should be an interesting show.

   RE:MISC:   Art News posted by sam on 10/24/2002 at 4:40:15 PM
Jim , it took Carmen and I 12 hours to drive to Abita Springs,and that was after I got off work!But after meeting all the good folks we,re planning to return next year.So quit tempting me!!!(grin)good luck with the show--sam

   RE:RE:MISC: Art News posted by Sebastian on 10/25/2002 at 10:18:05 AM
Congratulations Jim! Now "2much" gets what it deserves - ATTENTION from a huge audience because IT IS a piece of art.

That said, I want to let you know that my girlfriends bike "warm up" is also featured in an exhibition over here in Dresden, Germany. LRBs are getting stronger and stronger over here.

Greetings from Germany. Ride on!
Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

   RE:RE:MISC:   Art News posted by JimW. on 10/25/2002 at 3:12:47 PM
I doubt that this crowd will be as much fun as the Abita Springs crowd, although New Orleans artist Jimmy Descant has some work in the show, and will probably be at the opening. He did the Electrolux-tanked "Rocket Bike" that was at Abita Springs last year. I think his work in this show is a piece of more conventional "wall art" though.

AGE / VALUE:   APAX prototype posted by: Mike on 10/20/2002 at 10:51:27 AM
I rode this prototype yesterday along with some local recum-
bent riders.
It's a trike that leans into turns like a bicycle and has 10
inches of rear suspenion travel that's ultra plush. Adjustable
dampering although I thought it worked the best without any.
Over the rough stuff I found myself trying to use bike riding
body english and I found it was no need for it, just point it
and keep the rear end planted on the seat. The
only limiting factor was a 20 inch wheel shock fork with 2.8
inches of travel. The builder says that a 10 inch travel
trailing link fork is coming down the pipe soon it should be

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: a friend on 10/17/2002 at 5:51:55 PM
I was just reading a post about Sams Coca-Cola Carmen kruiser bike when Mr. Wilson made a comment about the kruiser when I gave a chance at bikerodnkustom, and what do you know, Jim's back with all the charactors at the "BIG BR&K HOO-RAY". I remember Mike's bike, he did some creative change ups to that o'l Murrey, good reading I might add.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by sam on 10/19/2002 at 8:38:35 PM
http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=843703 Maybe all in a stright line will be easer to copy.And Mikes bike did give me some insprition for this project but it was your directions on the mylar that let it happen.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by JimW. on 10/20/2002 at 6:54:43 AM
Mike's bike would have been a lot nicer, I think, if he'd put a Coke logo on it. Pity he didn't think of it.

There's another product that's good for stencilling, and it's made for the job. It's called frisket film, available at art supply stores. Airbrush illustrators use it. It's a frosted vinyl low-tack self-adhesive material. The frosted surface takes pencil and ink very well, for laying out the stencil. As it's vinyl, it would resist solvent-based paints very well.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by a friend on 10/20/2002 at 5:45:39 PM
Well Sam, I tried 3 times and the same responce "DIRECTORY denied". My loss, another sleepless night. I will just have to make up an imaginary Carmen Classic in my world. The main outcome here is your happy, Jim's happy and everybody here at Old Rodes is happy and the Kustom World here in the good o'l US OF AAAA is happy!!! Thats whats missing in the middle east Kustom bikes; am I right? Some streched out Kruisers, choppers, a few of those 2MUCH riders that Jim builds,and the rest the cast and crew at bikerodnkustommmmm.I needed That. Till next time, a friend.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:    posted by a friend on 10/21/2002 at 12:57:39 AM
I finally got it Sam, That came out real nice. I really like that nostalgic style. It has that ready for a pic-nic look too it. Those are my two favorite colors. I couldn't help but imagining Miss Monroe in her full white dress striking a famous pose by this bike; well Sam, just wishful thinking.

CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by: JimW. on 10/17/2002 at 2:15:56 AM
One of the most frequent questions I get at BikeRod&Kustom is "Where can I find a Dyno Roadster?" Well, there's one on eBay now, 4 days to go, and it's still at the starting bid of $389. Supposed to be new, in the box. Not my sale, no connection at all to the seller.


Speaking of BikeRod&Kustom, it'll be back up tomorrow, but don't tell anyone else about it. 8-) Jim

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by Iain on 10/19/2002 at 8:31:32 PM
The custom chopper mk2 below was featured in the last issue of Bike Rod and custom, anyone interested in the project give us a shout.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by Iain on 10/19/2002 at 8:31:40 PM
The custom chopper mk2 below was featured in the last issue of Bike Rod and custom, anyone interested in the project give us a shout.

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by Garrick on 10/20/2002 at 1:31:49 AM
I am interested in more info on the "Dyno Roadster". Can anyone help?

   RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by JimW. on 10/20/2002 at 6:41:43 AM
The auction finished on that one. It went for $449, which is an excellent price for an NIB example. I know someone who bought one this year for $750, and was happy to get it at that price.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by Garrick on 10/27/2002 at 4:18:23 AM
Jim, I snagged one off of ebay. $414.00. Where are some good links to find customizing goodies? Thanks for your help!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Dyno Roadster On eBay NIB posted by JimW. on 10/31/2002 at 3:50:46 AM
Hi Garrick,
I'm at a disadvantage, since I'm away from home for a couple more weeks, and don't have access to my bookmark files. One of the hottest custom goodies for your roadster is a set of WildWheels billet-machined alloy wheel sets. There's a link from BikeRodnkustom's cover page for them. They're pretty expensive, but there's nothing cooler, and you can get the Nexus7 hub and disc brakes on them. We've got a lot of kustomized roadsters in the BR&K gallery; take a look at the ones in there to get an idea of the possibilities. Most of the lowrider parts sources, like hiwheel.com (RBR)also have goodies for 26" bikes, like ducktail fenders, radial-spoked wheels, etc. Also take a look at John Youens' Salsa Verde in the current BR&K. Most of his accessories would work equally well on a Roadster, and he names his sources. Also, check out the 3-part lighting series in the BR&K archives.Interesting lighting equipment adds a lot to a bike. Another good source of goodies is your local motorcycle shop. There are many more trick goodies available for motos than for bikes, and a lot of them would work just as well on bikes.

Congratulations on getting your Roadster at such an attractive price. Leaves more bucks for the goodies, eh?

FOR SALE:   UK,Custom Chopper/Lowrider posted by: Iain on 10/16/2002 at 7:44:37 PM
For sale in the UK, Customised Mk2 Chopper/lowrider as veiwed at http://www.rcoc.co.uk/111IAINChopper.htm Open to offers via email.