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CUSTOMS:   Frame jig posted by: Meanirishmofo on 11/27/2002 at 10:12:36 PM
Hi, I built a chopper from a bike a few years ago. I want to build a chopper/bobber style bike. I can weld but I'm not sure how to set up a frame jig. I was giong to use the head tube, and rear section from frames I have, and use new tubing in between. Any thoughts on a cheap way to line everything up? Thanks, M

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Frame jig posted by sam on 11/30/2002 at 1:20:55 AM
I haven't got that far alone with any of my projects,but Robert built a recumbent said he used a 2X4 to line up the frame.Nail a block of woodto the 2x4 and nail or screw the rear dropout to it.The front fork will line up with this.Use another block and screw the fork in place.Add the tubs as you need to connect them

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Frame jig posted by MEANIRISHMOFO on 12/1/2002 at 1:23:12 AM
That's a good start. Thanks, M

CUSTOMS:   New Bike-21 speed lowrider posted by: James Donohue on 11/27/2002 at 2:40:27 PM
I just got a new bike and have begun the customization.
It is a 21 speed ladies bike with 26 inch wheels.
I've been riding a one speed bike lately and my legs are crying for a bike I can downshift.
I will be putting a sort of lowrider/motorcycle style seat on it. Made entirely of fiberglass, it's a test of my engineering skill if I can build it and ride it without breaking it.
I don't think anyone else makes seats the way I do.
You may have seen the previous version in the BR&K Gallery,
but that bike got stolen and I have to replace it.
This time I use Epoxy resin over a foam core.
The wheels are 26", not 24" so I have two less inches to work with (the Depth of the support beam that holds up the seat).
I bought the bike new in the box and I changed the stem and handlebars to BMX, I had to lengthen the deraileur cable by 10 inches to reach the bars.
I learned a little about "Grip Shift" but I wish it had thumbshifters(I guess I'm old fasioned).
Again, this bike is going to be a custom and not a prototype for a production run of X number of bikes.
I will do most of the epoxy in my attic so the heat can harden it. I am aware that saving weight may make the seat to light to support my weight. The previous bikes survived despite my doubts.
I will keep the board updated on the progress of this project.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   New Bike-21 speed lowrider posted by JimW. on 11/27/2002 at 3:43:12 PM
Hi James,
Sounds interesting; looking forward to seeing it. Glass over foam can give you a really strong form, but if you're really worried about its strength, you could do it using carbon fiber cloth, instead of glass. Aircraft Spruce and Specialty < http://aircraftspruce.com > sells exotic stuff for homebuilders of aircraft, and are a good source for small quantities of advanced composite raw materials, CrMo tubing, and lots of other useful stuff. Aircraft and bikes have many similar needs.

I'm really surprised that somebody stole your other bike. It's so recognizable that somebody couldn't just put tape over the decals and ride it around, and a bike wearing a very large sweater would look suspicious. Did you post a description of it in your area?

   RE:CUSTOMS:   New Bike-21 speed lowrider posted by JimW. on 11/27/2002 at 3:47:25 PM
Hi James,
Sounds interesting; looking forward to seeing it. Glass over foam can give you a really strong form, but if you're really worried about its strength, you could do it using carbon fiber cloth, instead of glass. Aircraft Spruce and Specialty < http://aircraftspruce.com > sells exotic stuff for homebuilders of aircraft, and are a good source for small quantities of advanced composite raw materials, CrMo tubing, and lots of other useful stuff. Aircraft and bikes have many similar needs.

I'm really surprised that somebody stole your other bike. It's so recognizable that somebody couldn't just put tape over the decals and ride it around, and a bike wearing a very large sweater would look suspicious. Did you post a description of it in your area?

   RE:CUSTOMS:   New Bike-21 speed lowrider posted by James Donohue on 11/30/2002 at 5:19:48 PM
I finished the fiberglass seat. I'm going to give it a few more hours of curing before test riding it. The fairing can wait. I'm afraid I introduced too much on that old bike, making it "too far ahead of it's time" so to speak. The fairing was supposed to be like an advertisment that the bike has a motorcycle style seat.
If I ever advertise any bike for sale I have to use the phrase "serious inquiries only". Otherwise too many screwballs bother me.
I've dealt with Aircraft Spruce & Specialty before but I've decided to work in fiberglass this time.
Someone has offered to sell me a second-hand Vetter fairing which I may use instead of building one from scratch.But it has an 10 inch hole for a headlight, and my light is only 2 inch diameter.
I have reduced the time it takes to build by using the epoxy over foam method, rather than the polyester over plaster.
I have showed / shown people pictures of the stolen bike and four people have reported seeing it in a nearby city.
You have to wait for a picture because I don't have a flatbed scanner.

   Test Ride- New Bike-21 speed lowrider posted by James Donohue on 12/1/2002 at 8:59:45 PM
If the bottom of the seat rubs the top of the rear wheel,
it's a LOWRIDER.
Couldn't make the seat any lower.
I had to take the rear wheel off and grind the bottom of the seat a little.(where the black mark from the tire was)
How low is low?
Granted, it's a 26 inch wheel.
It wasn't rubbing until I hit bumps.
Apparently fiberglass is springier than I realized.
I must say it does cusion the ride with about 3/4 (three quarter) inch travel.
Eight miles are now on the bike. Tire pressure is 80 front , 100 rear.
I will hold off painting it untill I possibly reinforce a high stress area.
It may be nescesary to add a fiberglass tank to give the front of the seat more to graft/grab onto, Like the previous bike seen on page 69 of bikerodnkustom.com.
I was trying to save weight by leaving it out.(that bike weighed 55 pounds).
I would really like to get a piece of real leather to epoxy down to the seat. Does anyone sell it besides Corbin?

   RE:Test Ride- New Bike-21 speed lowrider posted by JimW. on 12/2/2002 at 7:47:42 AM
Yes, fiberglass is springy, that's why they make archery equipment and car springs out of it. It's good that you've used epoxy rather than polyester resin. Epoxy isn't brittle like polyester. I'd recommend UltraLeather, available at the Hancock's fabric chain stores, and probably many others. I've used actual leather for years, but I found hardly any difference between it and UltraLeather. And it has a big bonus, if it should happen to get grease or paint on it, you can wipe it off with lacquer thinner, without hurting it. If you glue it down, I'd recommend either rubber cement or contact cement. Epoxy doesn't work well for that kind of adhesion.

   Springy Fiberglass Seat 21 speed lowrider posted by James Donohue on 12/3/2002 at 3:10:26 PM
I didn't know car springs were made of fiberglass, I thought they were all steel. The fiberglass Corvette even has steel springs.
I made the seat support like a 2x4 on edge, so I figured it wouldn't flex too much. My designer, Mellisa, actually said I should make it flater to give it more flex, but since I weigh twice as much as her I made the beam deeper. The critical area is right where the seat meets the seat tube, where I think I see some tiny cracks. But there's more fiberglass wrapped under the seat stays and the cracks aren't spreading.
I always expect some stress relief when the fiberglass is new.
The old bike had the seat,tank and fairing cast in one piece.
The tank was a "carry-over beam" so the stress was not as localized. The wheels were 24 inch, so I had 2 1/2" inch from the seat instead of just 1/2". Weight reduction in bikes is often refered to as "engineering". And the customer pays more for a lighter bike. Ironically, the bike is cheaper to build if I use less fiberglass.
The lack of a sissy bar is what allows the springy ride, and if the seat wasn't fiberglass, it would not stay up at all without a sissy bar.
If anyone knows of any other builder who has done this before, I would like to know. AFAIK, I have the only bike of this kind. -James Donohue , Glen Head, New York

CUSTOMS:   Triple Tree fork posted by: jimmy on 11/25/2002 at 10:08:19 PM
Hello, I am interested in adding a triple tree fork on my bike im currently building. The only place I know of is phatcycles.com , does anybody know of any other company that makes these. I might try to make my own. so it is exactly how i want it.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Triple Tree fork posted by JimW. on 12/12/2002 at 7:52:39 PM
Gary Silva, who was the designer of the Phat Cycles line has a new bike company of his own. He has a several very nice forks, including a classic triple-tree. They may be bought seperately from the bikes. http://www.3gbikes.com

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:? Triple Tree fork posted by Triple tree fork. from 3g bikes on 12/27/2002 at 9:06:30 AM
3G BIKES will be dist the triple tree fork. I was able to get in touch with the dist. here is their email address aubrey@byus.com.tw also they will be getting the new line in the third week of Janaury.

LOWRIDERS:   shop posted by: isaac ray on 11/24/2002 at 10:27:34 PM
does any one know of a lowrider bicycle shop in the san fransico bay area? preferably in the east bay. thanks!!!

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   shop posted by a friend on 11/25/2002 at 12:36:15 AM
Isaac, try this gentlman his name is Nathan Trujillo he is the editor at Lowrider magazine in Anaheim, California. His e-mail address is nathant@mcmullenargus.com Ask him for a shop in your local area. You might want too also try the San Jose area; check the directory for that area.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   shop posted by isaac ray on 12/3/2002 at 4:56:54 AM
thanks a friend.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   shop posted by isaac ray on 12/3/2002 at 4:56:55 AM
thanks a friend.

LOWRIDERS:    posted by: yuliya the rapper on 11/24/2002 at 6:21:07 AM
does anyone know of any lowrider bike stores around l.a.?

   RE:LOWRIDERS:    posted by a friend on 11/24/2002 at 2:21:00 PM
Check your yellow pages for Pico Rivera California, the home of Slam N Ride Lowrider Bicycle shop. Warren Wong is the owner. He's located on Slauson blvd. Sorry about the adderess.

FOR SALE:   Unique low rider for sale posted by: Dale on 11/24/2002 at 3:53:07 AM
I built a low-rider (as in recumbent, not as in chopper) from a scooter. It has five speed gearing, rim/drum brakes, tailcone and windshield. A real attention getter, and gobs of fun to ride. See a picture at http://www.homestead.com/feetfirst/FeetFirstHome.html; click on Bike Stuff and scroll to the end of the page. This thing is an absolute riot to ride!

Comes with a fitted seat cover. $100 plus shipping; I live in the Rochester, NY area.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Unique low rider for sale posted by JimW. on 12/2/2002 at 3:49:15 PM
I tried that link, and it didn't work.

LOWRIDERS:   Not dead yet posted by: Oscar on 11/24/2002 at 3:43:06 AM
To answer jimmy, no I'm not dead, and I'm glad to hear everyone else is still taking up O2 as well. Thanks to a certain friend for speaking up for my whereabouts. My missus somehow talked me into having us host 22 people for Thanksgiving at my small house. Since my birthday falls on the day after Thanksgiving, I may be getting that welding equipment after all. Payback, y'know.

A friend (different one) is sandblasting a 20" Schwinn girl's frame for me. I'm going to make my first lowrider from it. I've been studying girls frames from Sebastien's site and getting ideas. The only unique thing I want to do is to make canvas wheel skirts for it like turn of the century ladies bikes had. I'm going to try to mix vintage with modern tastefully. I also want to use as many original parts as possible, down to the painted S-7 rims and bendix hub.

Back to my birthday. I'm a grown man, but I still receive birthday-money from my folks. That should buy parts, most important of which will be the lowrider fork available from VVVintage Vintage Bicycles.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Not dead yet posted by Oscar on 11/24/2002 at 4:08:13 AM
Since I have your attention, I need help on one problem my frame presents. It's a small frame built to take a 36t crank and coaster brake. 36 x 18 isn't going to go anywhere fast, but I want to put some practical kick to it. My best shot is using a 13t cog in the back, which might give me 51 gear inches. I might do better with a threespeed, but again, the frame will not accept rear brakes. Unless...I build the front with a drum brake! Do you think this will work on the front wheel and a springer lowrider fork?

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Not dead yet posted by a friend on 11/24/2002 at 2:44:02 PM
Oscar, Wait till you get your welder. The reason I say this is your still thinking like someone who doesn't own one. Drop hints among the family what you want. Make sure you tell reliable sourses in the family who can carry information like a telemarketer; you who they are. Even if you don't get all the greenbacks, this will take the sting out of your wallet. "Remember Oscar", think KUSTOM in every thing you do. Stay creative at all times! don't let your ideas go down the road with out you. You know that coaster bridge at the top of frame in the rear that a fender nutz up to, well remove that and replace that with a flat 1/8 channel that the Schwinn frames come with, you know like the Krates have to use a caliper brake? Your going to become a faburcator, and a welder at that! Oscar your world is going too change for the better once you get this tool in your hand. The best too you, a friend.

   RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Not dead yet posted by Oscar on 11/24/2002 at 8:56:03 PM
Geez, friend. I feel like I'd be letting you down if I don't start welding. Can't let that happen. Sounds like the sparks are going to be flying from my garage one of these days.

CUSTOMS:   Rear Dropouts posted by: L. LUJAN on 11/23/2002 at 4:11:04 PM
Jim, I enjoy hearing about change ups. I'm looking foward in seeing this frame with design you mentioned. Its different and fresh. I can see it now, I get chemically imbalanced just thinking about it. I like the way people take a old idea and add flare to it. Its like a simple recipe, but breaking some of the rules. The motor virsion of the other proto type your designing, should be what the Whizzer of yesterday was, with todays Bikerodnkustoms design and power.

WANTED:   Want to trade... posted by: Stacey on 11/22/2002 at 7:40:16 PM
WANTED ' A pair (matched set) of 20x1.75/2.125 non-Schwinn slicks.

HAVE ' NOS White Shimano Click-Stick 5 (Complete in opened bag)& a nice Grimeca rear drum brake hub 28H for a five speed. Will give BOTH for a nice set of tires.

Please e-mail direct. Thanks

LOWRIDERS:   Help with Bondo posted by: Marts on 11/22/2002 at 2:08:02 AM
Hey, Looking to start first bondo project as an upgrade from a decent sheet metal custom. I have no idea how to start and if anyone would be able to provide instructions, plans, details, weblinks, anything at all (the more comprehensive the better) it would be great.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   How To Bondo posted by James Donohue on 11/23/2002 at 7:17:47 PM
The message was titled
"LOWRIDERS: How To Bondo" posted by Jay Fuslier on 10/27/02.

It's so far down the page, You may have to click on MORE MESSAGES at the bottom of this scroll down page.
look for the date 10/27/02 in the BIG NUMERALS.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Help with Bondo posted by JimW. on 11/22/2002 at 7:10:45 AM
If you look farther down in this list, you'll find answers to most of your questions.

MISC:   what happened? posted by: jimmy on 11/17/2002 at 7:17:16 PM
Did everyone die? Or are they just out trying to build a bike? I am, and its coming along great, its gonna be like a christmas gift for my self!!!! yahhhhhhhhh

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by L. LUJAN on 11/22/2002 at 4:17:23 PM
Jim, i'm becomming more and more interested in this styro foam method you are using on your prodjects. I really like the finish product. I found one distribution warehouse in Pomona Ca, but they only sell in large quanities. I'm sure there are others I just have to search a little more. What is the weight of your kruiser frame, meaning the bicycle one, not the frames that will house a motor. Are you building your own triple tree front ends, or are you buying them aftermarket?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: what happened? posted by a friend on 11/24/2002 at 3:00:54 PM
Sabastian, you build so many nice bikes; all this time have you been contracting this work out? You are depriving yourself short! If there is anyone of these guys who needs too step up to the plate is you". You know, its too bad "Mike Watson doesn't have a School for this trade". If you ever have a question concerning this matter I dought for a moment he won't take a little of his time too give you pointers on what type of equiment too perchase for the type of work your acctually going too do. That go's for you too Oscar, just ask Mike, "he's a MAD tube MAN" when it comes too this type of work. Remember, he plays a big part with the BR&K family.

   RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by a friend on 11/18/2002 at 4:28:30 PM
"Oh No Jimmy"! Nobody died, thank God for that. Its just that Mr. Watson is waiting on some information on his Cinzia folding bike. As for Sam, he's having too much fun with his welding at the moment. Theirs also another gentleman by the name of; "good o'l Mr. Jim Wilson", who is never idle, but always running! As for Oscar, well he's still trying too get his better half too understand how a welder will benifit them both; good luck Oscar, you got my vote. Then there is Mike, well he finally said "its time for candy break". As for "a friend" he has too much time on his hands. So with that all in order, its a regular day here at Old Rodes.

   RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by JimW. on 11/19/2002 at 8:53:48 PM
I just flew back from Louisiana, and my arms are really tired! Before I left, Dave and I finished building an identical pair of "Moon Rover" children's recumbent trikes. These are much simpler than the 2much!!! trike, and considerably lighter in weight. I just finished the BR&K gallery page for them. They feature spandex "aerodisc" wheels, which look pretty cool. There will also be complete instructions for making them. The nice thing about them is that they cover the entire wheel, including the rim, so you can use wheels that you'd normally discard because of rust or scarred/mismatched-color paint. And they're cheap to make, also-maybe $15 per wheel. After the holidays, when the next issue of BikeRod&Kustom goes up, I'll be heading back to Louisiana to build a pair of prototypes of a new long'n'low 26" cruiser frame design I've done. called "CANDIRU",it will be comparable in length to a Dyno Roadster, but the frame is in classic streamlined motorcycle style, rather than looking like a stretched Schwinn. If I like the way the prototype bikes work out, we'll probably be offering replica bare frames for sale, through BR&K. So, start saving your pennies now. There'll be a drawing in the next issue, and photos in the following issue. After those frames are built, Dave and I will probably start construction on a pedal-powered slingshot dragster trike, for the future IBRKA bike drags.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by jimmy on 11/20/2002 at 12:22:38 AM
Where at in Lousiana do you work on bikes? I have alot of family down there that all build bikes, one for a living! the are all around the New Orleans area.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by JimW. on 11/20/2002 at 4:22:45 PM
Baton Rouge. Might as well be the other side of the moon, where N.O. is concerned. I fly in and out of N.O. but never get there in between.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by L. LUJAN on 11/20/2002 at 10:34:46 PM
Jim this sounds very interesting. Anytime someone speaks of this type of construction i'm listening. The idea that you are building in some relation too a M/C frame leaves me with many questions. Just too ask a couple for starters, can you use aftermarket 26 inch fenders to this frame you are designing? Will these be raked too some extent? Jim, I can go on and on, but I know your busy so when you get some time post a responce. I'm also going too send you a picture of 3 types of Kruisers this one gentlemen is doing over here in So.California . His name is ROB, and he has three different modles too choose from. One is the SLED model, and the other two are the SPORTY, and COBRA model. After seeing what you did with the 2MUCH trike these should be a breeze. "Its good too hear about this" i'm really looking foward too seeing a original Bikerodnkustom product for your veiwers too perchase. You just never know where this will go. The rate your site has grown something real good is happening for BR&K. The best too you and your comrads.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by JimW. on 11/20/2002 at 11:56:16 PM
Hi Larry,
Some answers to your questions:
Aftermarket fenders should work on it, but the rear is pretty different from the usual bike rear, as it has an extra feature, but I don't think that would interfere with mounting a typical fender back there. We'll be making fully-valenced Indian-style fenders for use back there and for the front of the prototype, and if we make a set of molds, rather than doing a one-shot deal, like on 2much!!! we'll probably offer those for sale, also. The head tube will be
compatible with the Schwinn springer fork, so any fender that works with the Schwinn fork would work there. The head tube is raked, but not excessively. Those bike pix you sent me don't really look like Candiru, but they're nice. By M/C style, I don't mean that it looks exactly like a motorcycle, but it has two top tubes which form the seat stays in a continual sweep from being siamesed at the head tube diverging to the rear dropouts. There are also two "down tubes" which sweep from tbe rear dropouts to siamese at the head tube. Dropout spacing and orientation is designed for the Nexus7 hub, but almost anything else would work on it, also. As I mentioned, it doesn't look like a motorcycle, but like a very swoopy, long-wheelbased bicycle. Good to hear from an old "friend".

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: what happened? posted by Sebastian on 11/21/2002 at 11:54:15 AM
Hi all. Jim, that Candiru-project sounds really cool. Custom made frames are always a blast. I wish I could weld. Have sooo many ideas in mind.
These yellow trikes look very clean. Like 'em!

Anyway - I'm stuck in my EZOrange-project. Paint doesn't came out like I wanted it to be - so more work is needed. Besides that I agreed to restore/customize my sisters old mountainbike. So there's much work to do during the winter.

Hope you're all doing fine.
Take care!
Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany° ... http://www.lowriderbike.de

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by L. LUJAN on 11/21/2002 at 2:27:24 PM
I want too hear more about it, but I know in reality i'm going too have to wait like everyone else. Like I tell people here on my side of town; your frame is your center of every part you add to it. Now if you make it interesting people will take notice and offer more questions concerning the frame. Its easy to buy after market parts, and the industry has much too offer in style. I have too ask you one more question before I go; will this proto type frame you are designing, will it have any of those Wheel Werks wheels on it?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   what happened? posted by JimW. on 11/22/2002 at 6:57:43 AM
Why yes, one of them will have WildWheelWerks wheels on it, with the Nexus7 rear and disc brakes front and rear. That's the hotrod version, with the 3 engines. It'll also have a triple-tree fork on it, and bobbed fenders.

The other one will be the full-kustom machine. It'll have the Schwinn springer fork, the skirted fenders, regular 36-spoke wheels covered in spandex, with a Nexus7 rear hub. It'll have a foam/fiberglass long tank on it, and I may stretch spandex over the entire frame, for that streamliner look.

AGE / VALUE:   Cinzia Italian Folding Bike posted by: Bill Watson on 11/11/2002 at 3:36:54 AM
Just wondering if anyone has ever heard of the name Cinzia before. I picked up a Cinzia folding bike over the weekend from a neighbor. It's in pretty good shape, a bit rusty in spots from sitting for the past 30 years. It has 3 speeds, with the shifter on the downtube, quick releases for both the seat and handlebars, a generator on the front wheel for a headlight and taillight, a rear rack that is part of the frame. All the parts seem to be Italian, including the original Pirelli tires which are in good shape. Given the shape the tires are in and in talking to the owner, this bike hasn't been ridden much. My guess is that it was built in the 1960's. I'm planning on cleaning it up a bit and getting it in rideable shape, don't have the time or ability to do a total restoration. I've got some good pictures which I took today if anyone wants to see it. Not that I needed another bike, but it seemed to unique and cool to pass up for $25.

AGE / VALUE:   Torch fun posted by: sam on 11/6/2002 at 12:54:38 AM
This probly should go under the restoration group but just thought I say I've been playing with the Acetylene torch I got--repaired some fenders and a rack.Just trying it out,getting use to using it,etc.I already see where it will lead me,and I like it a lot!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Torch fun posted by JimW. on 11/6/2002 at 4:25:54 PM
Go Sam! Metal work's great, isn't it? Makes you feel like the mighty Thor, when you look at what you did. Nothing like it. I work with all sorts of materials, but accomplishing something in metal feels like much more of an accomplishment than with anything else.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Torch fun posted by Oscar on 11/7/2002 at 11:38:15 PM
I may be getting one for my birthday. The wife was dead set against it until I told her that I could solder her broken jewelry. (So now I have to learn how to solder jewelry with a cutting torch!!!)

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Torch fun posted by sam on 11/8/2002 at 5:40:12 PM
Oscar,you can make that "nugget" jewelry!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Torch fun posted by Mike on 11/9/2002 at 3:32:26 AM
Working metal is mighty satisfying, better that chocolate!

AGE / VALUE:   16" rim posted by: Freddie on 11/5/2002 at 9:00:37 PM
I need a 16" rim with 36 holes.Can anybody help? Thanks.

LOWRIDERS:   Wheels posted by: jimmy on 11/4/2002 at 11:08:34 PM
Hello, I want to know if anyone knows where I could get 144 spoke wheels besides lovely lowrider, mega lowrider, RBR, aztlan, or ebay for under $75.00. I have been looking forever I I am hopeing someone will know of another place. Thanks, Jimmy

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wheels posted by JimW. on 11/6/2002 at 4:32:51 PM
I wouldn't count on finding them much cheaper anywhere else.
All those suppliers buy them from the same source, and all suppliers have pretty much the same mark-up on them. I saw a set on eBay a week or so ago, at about $75, and that was cheaper than from most retail sources. Your best bet for even cheaper is finding a used set through lists like this.
Used ones tend to be in pretty good shape, as they're so heavy you can barely pedal a bike with them on it, so they don't tend to get used much.